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#151 mitu123
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its wierd how people only use gamspot scores here. because on IGN, the ps3 has more AAAE's than the 360 and wii combined.

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#152 SilverChimera
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[QUOTE="SilverChimera"]

its wierd how people only use gamspot scores here. because on IGN, the ps3 has more AAAE's than the 360 and wii combined.

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That's System Wars for you.

i mean, seriously, the people say that the ps3 only had good exclusives in the middle of 2008. but they seem to "forget" that it had resitance fall of man (launch), motorstorm, warhawk, folklore, uncharted, ratchet and clank tools of destruction, and ninja gaiden sigma before that. all of them were AAAe's in other sites.
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#153 kingdre
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[QUOTE="mitu123"][QUOTE="SilverChimera"]

its wierd how people only use gamspot scores here. because on IGN, the ps3 has more AAAE's than the 360 and wii combined.

SilverChimera
That's System Wars for you.

i mean, seriously, the people say that the ps3 only had good exclusives in the middle of 2008. but they seem to "forget" that it had resitance fall of man (launch), motorstorm, warhawk, folklore, uncharted, ratchet and clank tools of destruction, and ninja gaiden sigma before that. all of them were AAAe's in other sites.

Which is why they only use GS scores, especially when the scores from other sites make them look bad.
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#154 edo-tensei
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[QUOTE="XanderZane"][QUOTE="Phazevariance"] What will you say when 360 gets mgs4 in the future??Euroshinobi

Cows are going to be pissed, just like they were when the XBox 360 got FF XIII, Ace Combat 6, DMC4, GTA IV and Tekken 6. I'd rather the XBox 360 get MGS5. They can keep MGS4. I can play that anytime since I have a PS3 as well.

the same way ninti lost the legendary ff7 to sony. Third p exclusives are never really exclusive that's why you need a strong first party, nintende and sony are on the same page about that can't say the same for ms

Seriously the day microsoft took FF XIII was amazing, i think it should go down in the history of gaming in the 'Greatest pwnage moments in gaming' section xD

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#155 BlancoBX
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did anyone ever think to realize that the reason 360 has such a higher software sales and the fact that Halo 3 is still selling well has something to do with how the xbox is known to scratch disks to the point where they cant be played and people are buying halo and other games for the second and third times?

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#156 mitu123
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[QUOTE="mitu123"][QUOTE="SilverChimera"]

its wierd how people only use gamspot scores here. because on IGN, the ps3 has more AAAE's than the 360 and wii combined.

SilverChimera
That's System Wars for you.

i mean, seriously, the people say that the ps3 only had good exclusives in the middle of 2008. but they seem to "forget" that it had resitance fall of man (launch), motorstorm, warhawk, folklore, uncharted, ratchet and clank tools of destruction, and ninja gaiden sigma before that. all of them were AAAe's in other sites.

Yes, but by the rules, on Gamespot scores count on System Wars sadly. How on earth did Folklore get AAA, never mind that, imagine if those were AAA here...
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#157 Faulttt
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If anything the PS3 needs this E3 more then any E3 ever. This is the Alamo for the PS3...the last stand

The 360 has the highest game attach rate

The 360 has a higher game ranking the the PS3

The 360 has better software sales then the PS3

True the 360 released earlier but it also has made the gap larger since the PS3 release

The 360 has better selling games then the PS3

E3 is in America. So lets see how America has done for Sony

Seems all 3 Sony systems are selling less....Oh No!

Lets look at the 360 shall we

As you can see besides for last month the 360 sales are growing...Oh No ...this stinks for Sony

Here is the Gamespot scores

The PS3 has 1 more exclusive AAAA

The 360 has 1 exclusive AAA

The 360 has ----30----more AA games

So again the 360 has the better game library

The 360 is showing Forza 3 at this E3 probably. Forza is a AAA series unlike GT which is a AA series. Also showing Halo : Odst and we all know Halo crushes in score and sales. Plus games like Alan wake, New Rare, peter Molyegue, new Zune that lays all xbl games and so on.

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How bout a universal chart?

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#158 SilverChimera
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[QUOTE="SilverChimera"][QUOTE="mitu123"] That's System Wars for you.mitu123
i mean, seriously, the people say that the ps3 only had good exclusives in the middle of 2008. but they seem to "forget" that it had resitance fall of man (launch), motorstorm, warhawk, folklore, uncharted, ratchet and clank tools of destruction, and ninja gaiden sigma before that. all of them were AAAe's in other sites.

Yes, but by the rules, on Gamespot scores count on System Wars sadly. How on earth did Folklore get AAA, never mind that, imagine if those were AAA here...

yea, ill admit that folklore wasn't an AAA game. but it sure was an AA game. i think GS has a tendency to underrate many games.
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#159 CaseyWegner
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did anyone ever think to realize that the reason 360 has such a higher software sales and the fact that Halo 3 is still selling well has something to do with how the xbox is known to scratch disks to the point where they cant be played and people are buying halo and other games for the second and third times?

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i don't think fictional reasons had an impact. no.

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#160 mitu123
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[QUOTE="SilverChimera"][QUOTE="mitu123"][QUOTE="SilverChimera"] i mean, seriously, the people say that the ps3 only had good exclusives in the middle of 2008. but they seem to "forget" that it had resitance fall of man (launch), motorstorm, warhawk, folklore, uncharted, ratchet and clank tools of destruction, and ninja gaiden sigma before that. all of them were AAAe's in other sites.

Yes, but by the rules, on Gamespot scores count on System Wars sadly. How on earth did Folklore get AAA, never mind that, imagine if those were AAA here...

yea, ill admit that folklore wasn't an AAA game. but it sure was an AA game. i think GS has a tendency to underrate many games.

I agree with you on that, LOL.
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#161 BlancoBX
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fictional reasons? Many of my friends have had this problem with their xboxes. You mean to tell me you have never heard of 360s causing a really nasty circular scratch on discs and making them unreadable? Any moving or bumping of the 360 when a game is being played can cause this and ive seen it first hand

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#162 -Traveller-
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fictional reasons? Many of my friends have had this problem with their xboxes. You mean to tell me you have never heard of 360s causing a really nasty circular scratch on discs and making them unreadable? Any moving or bumping of the 360 when a game is being played can cause this and ive seen it first hand

BlancoBX

It's the fact that you assume people go out and rebuy all their games after they have scratched, and that accounts for the increase in software sales.

It's a stretch.

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#163 BlancoBX
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sorry if I tried to make it seem like that was the sole reason for it and it is a stretch as you put it, but the xbox has been known to do this so claiming its fictional is just wrong.

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#164 -Traveller-
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sorry if I tried to make it seem like that was the sole reason for it and it is a stretch as you put it, but the xbox has been known to do this so claiming its fictional is just wrong.

BlancoBX

He wasn't claiming the Xbox scratching discs was fictional, everybody knows about it. Just about the rebuying games part, and that inflates the sales.

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#165 CaseyWegner
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[QUOTE="mitu123"][QUOTE="SilverChimera"] i mean, seriously, the people say that the ps3 only had good exclusives in the middle of 2008. but they seem to "forget" that it had resitance fall of man (launch), motorstorm, warhawk, folklore, uncharted, ratchet and clank tools of destruction, and ninja gaiden sigma before that. all of them were AAAe's in other sites. SilverChimera
Yes, but by the rules, on Gamespot scores count on System Wars sadly. How on earth did Folklore get AAA, never mind that, imagine if those were AAA here...

yea, ill admit that folklore wasn't an AAA game. but it sure was an AA game. i think GS has a tendency to underrate many games.

and overrate others. if we went by gamerankings, games like perfect dark zero, infamous, and resistance 2 wouldn't be AAA.

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#166 BlancoBX
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And also: if a game as beloved by xbox fans as Halo 3 was ruined dont you think they would re-buy it so they could keep playing? I know that if my copy of MGS4 or Street Fighter as ruined i would def go out and rebuy it.

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#167 BlancoBX
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This is a stretch but there is no possible way it can be proved to be false either, just as the sales figures for the consoles themselves most likely include people purchasing new systems after theirs broke

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#168 CaseyWegner
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sorry if I tried to make it seem like that was the sole reason for it and it is a stretch as you put it, but the xbox has been known to do this so claiming its fictional is just wrong.

BlancoBX

you don't think you were exaggerating?

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#169 BlancoBX
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Like i said i didnt mean to pass it off as fact and I definitely should have included the word maybe. But its a feasible reason why software sales are a little bit inflated, not the reason why it sold almost 9 million obviously. Im not saying that theres really only 4 million in sales and all those got scratched and that 4 million people went and re-bought the game.

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#170 Broman6015
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The way all of you talk about sales really makes it seem like you have some kind of stake in it. Or are expecting some kind of return. I get how it's interesting to see what the mass market is buying, but at the end of the day, none of that information concerns any of you, and is really completely irrelevant when discussing games, which is the whole point of forums like this one.
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#171 CaseyWegner
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Like i said i didnt mean to pass it off as fact and I definitely should have included the word maybe. But its a feasible reason why software sales are a little bit inflated, not the reason why it sold almost 9 million obviously. Im not saying that theres really only 4 million in sales and all those got scratched and that 4 million people went and re-bought the game.

BlancoBX

and i still think you're greatly exaggerating the extent of the "problem."

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#172 BlancoBX
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Ok i guess so you got me, my family and friends are the only ones who have experienced this disc scratching phenomenon..did i mention our last name is worstluckintheworld?

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#173 WilliamRLBaker
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[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"][QUOTE="GreyFoXX4"] Well in the real world people look at Wal mart game shelves and look at the selection. And guess what there is alot more "different" games on the ps3 shelves to the avg joe blow if thats what your talking about lol. I look at them every night and yep thos Only on Playstation games sure are looking good running acoss that top 2 shelves of its counter :) And they'll keep making room for the new ones coming aswell :)GreyFoXX4
too bad in most wal-marts the wii and 360 have a bigger game section devoted then a ps3 section the same with blockbuster.

Don't know about the blockbuster, but you are wrong sir about walmarts, thank you so much lol. They each have 8 feet, I've been in 2 districts and they all are given 8 feet of space, with the ps2 getting 6 ft with 2 feet going to the psp. I even think that they all get 4 feet for extras except the wii I think get 8 feet there aswell.. So no the 360 and wii do not have more footage in the counters :)

except they do, Most wal-marts have 2 sides of a lane for vidoe games, and your end caps, all wal-marts have a bigger area dedicated to wii and 360 then they do ps3.
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#174 WilliamRLBaker
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[QUOTE="SilverChimera"][QUOTE="mitu123"] Yes, but by the rules, on Gamespot scores count on System Wars sadly. How on earth did Folklore get AAA, never mind that, imagine if those were AAA here...CaseyWegner

yea, ill admit that folklore wasn't an AAA game. but it sure was an AA game. i think GS has a tendency to underrate many games.

and overrate others. if we went by gamerankings, games like perfect dark zero, infamous, and resistance 2 wouldn't be AAA.

yep they would get the scores they deserve, PD0 is not an aaa game, neither is infamous or resistance 2 they are AA games.
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#175 kkevguy47k
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the gamespot scores chart is flawed, some exclusives aren't labeled as exclusive. (ninja gaiden sigma for example)
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#176 finesse-gamer
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i came into this thread expecting games, i got boring graphs and charts.

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#177 Animal-Mother
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Ohh since PS3 games are scoring so high and doing so well let me show SW how well MS games and systems have sold. MS has not had really good exclusive this year. Except for star ocean. I think they need to pick up the pace with the games because thats what I do with the system buy games for it/

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#178 ermacness
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[QUOTE="GreyFoXX4"][QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"] too bad in most wal-marts the wii and 360 have a bigger game section devoted then a ps3 section the same with blockbuster.WilliamRLBaker
Don't know about the blockbuster, but you are wrong sir about walmarts, thank you so much lol. They each have 8 feet, I've been in 2 districts and they all are given 8 feet of space, with the ps2 getting 6 ft with 2 feet going to the psp. I even think that they all get 4 feet for extras except the wii I think get 8 feet there aswell.. So no the 360 and wii do not have more footage in the counters :)

except they do, Most wal-marts have 2 sides of a lane for vidoe games, and your end caps, all wal-marts have a bigger area dedicated to wii and 360 then they do ps3.

Infamous and R2 received more AAA ratings from respectable sites than PDZ did

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#179 ermacness
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What lems fail to realize is that the massive ownage cows received back in 07. Back in 07, the ps3 was a glorified blu-ray player with no AAAE that year. The cows received massive bashing to regions unknown. Now that "glorified blu-ray player" have not only received this gens only AAAAE, but also caught up to the wii and nearly the "almighty superb having software" 360 in AAAE and it did this within a year. As for the 360 outselling the ps3 in hardware sales, the 360 actuallly have a sku cheaper than the wii. lems go on about stating that price is not the only reason why the 360 is outselling the ps3, but it is. The ps3 was in FAR worst condition when it was outselling the 360 in 08, and what's the crazy thing about this is that m$ knows this. That's why they dropped the price on the 360

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#180 -DrRobotnik-
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Ohh since PS3 games are scoring so high and doing so well let me show SW how well MS games and systems have sold. MS has not had really good exclusive this year. Except for star ocean. I think they need to pick up the pace with the games because thats what I do with the system buy games for it/

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Theyve have more good exclusives than just star ocean. If you only play AAA games, then sucks to be you. If the MS exclusives genuinely havent met your tastes, then its unfortunate but we're still only half way through the year.
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What does the X360 has to counter AAA PS3 exclusives (aka Killzone 2, InFamous)? The answer from lemmings themselves : "JUST WAIT" till E3 :lol: kingfire11

Halo and crackdown? :| What are you insane? Both outclass Killzone/infamous despite being years older.

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[QUOTE="kingfire11"]What does the X360 has to counter AAA PS3 exclusives (aka Killzone 2, InFamous)? The answer from lemmings themselves : "JUST WAIT" till E3 :lol: CreepyBacon

Halo and crackdown? :| What are you insane? Both out****Killzone/infamous despite being years older.

yeah and its better than saying just wait till 2010, like some cows are doing now.. lol

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#183 CaseyWegner
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the gamespot scores chart is flawed, some exclusives aren't labeled as exclusive. (ninja gaiden sigma for example)kkevguy47k

it's ninja gaiden black with better graphics and some bonus features. it's not a different game.

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#184 dragonpuppy
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[QUOTE="kingfire11"]What does the X360 has to counter AAA PS3 exclusives (aka Killzone 2, InFamous)? The answer from lemmings themselves : "JUST WAIT" till E3 :lol: CreepyBacon

Halo and crackdown? :| What are you insane? Both outclass Killzone/infamous despite being years older.

Crackdown outclasses inFamous? Are you serious?

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#185 -DrRobotnik-
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[QUOTE="CreepyBacon"]

[QUOTE="kingfire11"]What does the X360 has to counter AAA PS3 exclusives (aka Killzone 2, InFamous)? The answer from lemmings themselves : "JUST WAIT" till E3 :lol: dragonpuppy

Halo and crackdown? :| What are you insane? Both outclass Killzone/infamous despite being years older.

Crackdown outclasses inFamous? Are you serious?

Going by scores, i guess not. But The Lost and Damned does :wink:
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What lems fail to realize is that the massive ownage cows received back in 07. Back in 07, the ps3 was a glorified blu-ray player with no AAAE that year. The cows received massive bashing to regions unknown. Now that "glorified blu-ray player" have not only received this gens only AAAAE, but also caught up to the wii and nearly the "almighty superb having software" 360 in AAAE and it did this within a year. As for the 360 outselling the ps3 in hardware sales, the 360 actuallly have a sku cheaper than the wii. lems go on about stating that price is not the only reason why the 360 is outselling the ps3, but it is. The ps3 was in FAR worst condition when it was outselling the 360 in 08, and what's the crazy thing about this is that m$ knows this. That's why they dropped the price on the 360

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were you here in 2006?

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#187 mitu123
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i came into this thread expecting games, i got boring graphs and charts.

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I LOL'd because that's funny.

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#188 ermacness
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[QUOTE="ermacness"]

What lems fail to realize is that the massive ownage cows received back in 07. Back in 07, the ps3 was a glorified blu-ray player with no AAAE that year. The cows received massive bashing to regions unknown. Now that "glorified blu-ray player" have not only received this gens only AAAAE, but also caught up to the wii and nearly the "almighty superb having software" 360 in AAAE and it did this within a year. As for the 360 outselling the ps3 in hardware sales, the 360 actuallly have a sku cheaper than the wii. lems go on about stating that price is not the only reason why the 360 is outselling the ps3, but it is. The ps3 was in FAR worst condition when it was outselling the 360 in 08, and what's the crazy thing about this is that m$ knows this. That's why they dropped the price on the 360

CaseyWegner

were you here in 2006?

yes i was, in fact and i know that the cows was on a rampage march that year, but this site is nothing but a big tag game. The sows 1st tagged the lems in 06. The lems tagged back to the cows in 07 as a result. Noe the cws are tagging back at lems and so on

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#189 Gxgear
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Halo Wars is hit and miss. Star Ocean and Velvet Assasin decent. Rest is meh. As a gamer and not a wannabe sales analyst I'd say 360 could use a little boost.

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#190 WilliamRLBaker
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[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"][QUOTE="GreyFoXX4"] Don't know about the blockbuster, but you are wrong sir about walmarts, thank you so much lol. They each have 8 feet, I've been in 2 districts and they all are given 8 feet of space, with the ps2 getting 6 ft with 2 feet going to the psp. I even think that they all get 4 feet for extras except the wii I think get 8 feet there aswell.. So no the 360 and wii do not have more footage in the counters :)ermacness

except they do, Most wal-marts have 2 sides of a lane for vidoe games, and your end caps, all wal-marts have a bigger area dedicated to wii and 360 then they do ps3.

Infamous and R2 received more AAA ratings from respectable sites than PDZ did

lol yes because you decide whats respectable, the criteria for this? that those games received AAA then they are respectable. If we go by metacritic which doesn't use nearly the ""suspect sites"" as gamerankings those 2 games are still AA.
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#191 SpinoRaptor24
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Why exactly is Ninja Gaiden scored as a AAExclusive for the 360 but Ninja Gaiden Sigma is not scored as a AA exclusive for the ps3?

GreyFoXX4

Because NG2 Sigma is a superior multiplat, not an exclusive.

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#192 Animal-Mother
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Ohh since PS3 games are scoring so high and doing so well let me show SW how well MS games and systems have sold. MS has not had really good exclusive this year. Except for star ocean. I think they need to pick up the pace with the games because thats what I do with the system buy games for it/

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Theyve have more good exclusives than just star ocean. If you only play AAA games, then sucks to be you. If the MS exclusives genuinely havent met your tastes, then its unfortunate but we're still only half way through the year.

YEah it is unfortunate. and How have i showed that I only play AAA games I boughgt start ocean. AWAKE is my biggest title of this year but what else have they had to show for it besides halo wars. Not much