OK, nintendo sure innovates with controllers, but have they ever been ergonomic?

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#1 lightleggy
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oh yeah, you know what im talking about...

nintendo and ergonomy have never been friends...

nintendo always makes the worst controllers as far as design goes, they are all so uncomfortable, you want to cut off your hands after playing for 15 minutes.

lets take a look

NES controller

it was just a rectangle, it was plain, flat and it was tough to hold.

but ok, lets allow this one to pass...after all, videogames were emerging at this era, and people didnt know much about ergonomic controllers.

snes controller

same problem: too small, too flat, and terrible triggers.

then again, gaming was still young.

virtual boy

extremely goofy looking, unnecesary long handles, it had 2 fricking d pads, 1 to control x axis and other for y. and just look at the overall button position...did nintendo built this for the aliens from the simpsons or something?

N64 controller

even more goofy looking than all of the above, terrible placement, why the hell do you want 3 handles? and you couldnt even use d pad+ analog...you had to choose between one of the 2.

and lets be honest: perfect dark and goldeneye were great games, but playing FPS in an N64 was hard as hell.

not to mention that N64 controllers would usually break after 2 months of use...rendering the analog useless or at least screwing it up so badly your fingers would get calluses from moving it.

gamecube controller

the best controller they have...not really much to say against it, except that z was really hard to push and would usually break down in half.

wii controller

ok...this...is just awful

first of all: you get sweaty hands after 5 minutes of playing...and like...really sweaty.

it kind of makes your wrist and hand hurt a bit after holding it for a few minutes (since its a freaking rectangle...which is not a very good form to grab)

the button layout is horrible...seriously, I think we have all played SMBB with the horizontal wiimote, its terrible, its so hard to reach some of the buttons.

and finally: the motion just sucks...I really cant consider this a motion controller, just a cheap rip off...its so badly innacurate, it even sucks with the WM+...

seriously, blame sony for not making new controller design...but at least they are very comfortable and have a good button layout, and nor do they feel attracted to create extremely goofy looking controllers...

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inb4sonyisfullofcopiers! :P

N64 controller was ok, other half was pretty useless.

Im looking at the Virtual Boy and.... :lol: What!?

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#3 TheEpicGoat
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I actually lol'd at the idea of using the virtual boy controller

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#4 lightleggy
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I actually lol'd at the idea of using the virtual boy controller

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#6 millerlight89
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I like the Gamecube controller, though it is pretty funky. The rest are awful I agree. Well the Wii controller doesn't feel too bad.

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#7 timmy00
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The only controller I truly had problems with was the N64 controller. The others are fine. (Never used the virtual boy before :P)

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#8 lightleggy
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inb4sonyisfullofcopiers! :P

N64 controller was ok, other half was pretty useless.

Im looking at the Virtual Boy and.... :lol: What!?

VensInferno

it really didnt needed that 3rd handle, did it? they could have just placed the analog near the dpad, so that you could actually reach both

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#9 VensInferno
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I was shocked that the Memory card or whatever its called for the N64 goes into the controller :P I couldn't figure it out until I stared at the N64 Controller for like 5 minutes.

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[QUOTE="VensInferno"]

inb4sonyisfullofcopiers! :P

N64 controller was ok, other half was pretty useless.

Im looking at the Virtual Boy and.... :lol: What!?

lightleggy

it really didnt needed that 3rd handle, did it? they could have just placed the analog near the dpad, so that you could actually reach both

Thats true. Some times there were games where they use the yellow buttons for movement rather then the anaolg stick. But I mostly played games like racing and platform, so it really didn't bother me. I played Conkers Bad Fur Day on it , and it was literally hard to aim .

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NES and SNES were great controllers, ergonomics didn't matter back then. N64 was comfortable for me, never had any problem. GCN was the best controller last gen for me. Wii... is a remote. And it comes with the rubber coating now so sweating shouldn't be a problem.
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#12 lightleggy
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I was shocked that the Memory card or whatever its called for the N64 goes into the controller :P I couldn't figure it out until I stared at the N64 Controller for like 5 minutes.

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#13 lightleggy
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[QUOTE="SaltyMeatballs"]NES and SNES were great controllers, ergonomics didn't matter back then. N64 was comfortable for me, never had any problem. GCN was the best controller last gen for me. Wii... is a remote. And it comes with the rubber coating now so sweating shouldn't be a problem.

I actually think that the rubber coating increases the sweating...at least it did for me
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#14 lightleggy
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[QUOTE="lightleggy"]

[QUOTE="VensInferno"]

inb4sonyisfullofcopiers! :P

N64 controller was ok, other half was pretty useless.

Im looking at the Virtual Boy and.... :lol: What!?

VensInferno

it really didnt needed that 3rd handle, did it? they could have just placed the analog near the dpad, so that you could actually reach both

Thats true. Some times there were games where they use the yellow buttons for movement rather then the anaolg stick. But I mostly played games like racing and platform, so it really didn't bother me. I played Conkers Bad Fur Day on it , and it was literally hard to aim .

and manual aiming with the bow and hook/longshot in zelda OOT was hard as hell
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#15 cain006
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first of all: you get sweaty hands after 5 minutes of playing...and like...really sweaty.

lightleggy

If you use the plastic sleeve they added, your hands will be a lot less sweaty. That used to annoy me too, but when we got ones with the sleeves the problem pretty much went away.

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[QUOTE="lightleggy"][QUOTE="SaltyMeatballs"]NES and SNES were great controllers, ergonomics didn't matter back then. N64 was comfortable for me, never had any problem. GCN was the best controller last gen for me. Wii... is a remote. And it comes with the rubber coating now so sweating shouldn't be a problem.

I actually think that the rubber coating increases the sweating...at least it did for me

I didn't really notice, but it shouldn't slip is my point.
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[QUOTE="lightleggy"][QUOTE="SaltyMeatballs"]NES and SNES were great controllers, ergonomics didn't matter back then. N64 was comfortable for me, never had any problem. GCN was the best controller last gen for me. Wii... is a remote. And it comes with the rubber coating now so sweating shouldn't be a problem.SaltyMeatballs
I actually think that the rubber coating increases the sweating...at least it did for me

I didn't really notice, but it shouldn't slip is my point.

Still no fun to have sweaty ass hands. I don't think I have used a controller where I do not have this problem though.

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#18 lightleggy
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[QUOTE="SaltyMeatballs"][QUOTE="lightleggy"][QUOTE="SaltyMeatballs"]NES and SNES were great controllers, ergonomics didn't matter back then. N64 was comfortable for me, never had any problem. GCN was the best controller last gen for me. Wii... is a remote. And it comes with the rubber coating now so sweating shouldn't be a problem.

I actually think that the rubber coating increases the sweating...at least it did for me

I didn't really notice, but it shouldn't slip is my point.

you still get the horrible sensation of sweatyness
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#19 Silverbond
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I don't suffer any of those problems when I use the Wiimote.

Idk what to say, really.

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#20 lightleggy
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I don't suffer any of those problems when I use the Wiimote.

Idk what to say, really.

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if im not wrong, you've been here since 2006 (or before, I entered in 2006) and since 2006, you have been one of the biggest sheeps here...I actually see you as commander sheep and im not joking... sorry, I cant take your comments on this serious...I think you'll just defend nintendo to death
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#21 dzimm
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I've never found any of Nintendo's products uncomfortable to hold or use.
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#22 timmy00
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I never had sweaty hands while using the Wii mote. :?

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#23 sonic_spark
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The Virtual Boy controller is actually very comfortable, just the battery pack ways it down.

I like the N64 controller and Gamecube controller better than I like the Dualshock. I hate the dualshock. I had to buy a 3rd party shadow controller because it was more comfortable. The N64 and GC are comfortable.

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#24 Silverbond
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[QUOTE="Silverbond"]

I don't suffer any of those problems when I use the Wiimote.

Idk what to say, really.

lightleggy

if im not wrong, you've been here since 2006 (or before, I entered in 2006) and since 2006, you have been one of the biggest sheeps here...I actually see you as commander sheep and im not joking... sorry, I cant take your comments on this serious...I think you'll just defend nintendo to death

I've been here since 2008, but I can't blame you for thinking I'm some mega-important poster.

I'm kind of a big deal.

I've been called a lemming, a sheep, and a cow. If it seems like I don't really care about what you think of me, it's because I don't.

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#25 deactivated-6040149309c71
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i always have sweaty hands when palying games no matter the controllwr, but i did not like using the wii-mote sideways. The corners always felt uncomfortable on my hands. The N64 controller... i thought it was different, more like the GC, or maybe my friend had a special controller.

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#26 timmy00
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[QUOTE="lightleggy"][QUOTE="Silverbond"]

I don't suffer any of those problems when I use the Wiimote.

Idk what to say, really.

Silverbond

if im not wrong, you've been here since 2006 (or before, I entered in 2006) and since 2006, you have been one of the biggest sheeps here...I actually see you as commander sheep and im not joking... sorry, I cant take your comments on this serious...I think you'll just defend nintendo to death

I've been here since 2008, but I can't blame you for thinking I'm some mega-important poster.

I'm kind of a big deal.

I've been called a lemming, a sheep, and a cow. If it seems like I don't really care about what you think of me, it's because I don't.

Why yes you are. :oops:

:P

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[QUOTE="lightleggy"][QUOTE="Silverbond"]

I don't suffer any of those problems when I use the Wiimote.

Idk what to say, really.

Silverbond

if im not wrong, you've been here since 2006 (or before, I entered in 2006) and since 2006, you have been one of the biggest sheeps here...I actually see you as commander sheep and im not joking... sorry, I cant take your comments on this serious...I think you'll just defend nintendo to death

I've been here since 2008, but I can't blame you for thinking I'm some mega-important poster.

I'm kind of a big deal.

I've been called a lemming, a sheep, and a cow. If it seems like I don't really care about what you think of me, it's because I don't.

Thats the spirit Torchic!

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#28 deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
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[QUOTE="Silverbond"]

I don't suffer any of those problems when I use the Wiimote.

Idk what to say, really.

lightleggy
if im not wrong, you've been here since 2006 (or before, I entered in 2006) and since 2006, you have been one of the biggest sheeps here...I actually see you as commander sheep and im not joking... sorry, I cant take your comments on this serious...I think you'll just defend nintendo to death

Silverbond, commander sheep? :lol: You can't be serious.
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#29 lightleggy
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[QUOTE="lightleggy"][QUOTE="Silverbond"]

I don't suffer any of those problems when I use the Wiimote.

Idk what to say, really.

Silverbond

if im not wrong, you've been here since 2006 (or before, I entered in 2006) and since 2006, you have been one of the biggest sheeps here...I actually see you as commander sheep and im not joking... sorry, I cant take your comments on this serious...I think you'll just defend nintendo to death

I've been here since 2008, but I can't blame you for thinking I'm some mega-important poster.

I'm kind of a big deal.

I've been called a lemming, a sheep, and a cow. If it seems like I don't really care about what you think of me, it's because I don't.

my bad, I was confusing you with someone else...I think it was jasonguy or something, anyway, I still remember you were part of the sheep elite
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[QUOTE="lightleggy"][QUOTE="Silverbond"]

I don't suffer any of those problems when I use the Wiimote.

Idk what to say, really.

Silverbond

if im not wrong, you've been here since 2006 (or before, I entered in 2006) and since 2006, you have been one of the biggest sheeps here...I actually see you as commander sheep and im not joking... sorry, I cant take your comments on this serious...I think you'll just defend nintendo to death

I've been here since 2008, but I can't blame you for thinking I'm some mega-important poster.

I'm kind of a big deal.

I've been called a lemming, a sheep, and a cow. If it seems like I don't really care about what you think of me, it's because I don't.

That's right, you show him! :P
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#31 nameless12345
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Yes! Their controllers were always very ergonomic. Ask yourself where modern gamepad designs come from.

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#32 alfredooo
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No matter what TC says I will always ignore it because his sig is hating on Bayonetta. I can't have any type of reasonable discussion with someone whith a sig hating on the best game of 2010. You are supposed to hate on popular games, TC change it up to CoD but leave Bayonetta alone.

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#33 campzor
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i somewhat agree.. nes and snes controllers were fine though.. cause without the analogue stick ur thumb wouldnt be in that position in the first place so it did make the snes controller uncomfortable cause u were only using the dpad.
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#34 Dycras
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Lol, I love how this guy obviously has some huge grudge against Nintendo. It's so obvious by his completely biased arguement, and it makes it hard to take it seriously :lol:

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#35 funsohng
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I agree on others, but Wavebird is pretty much the best controller that I have ever held in my hands.
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[QUOTE="Silverbond"]

[QUOTE="lightleggy"] if im not wrong, you've been here since 2006 (or before, I entered in 2006) and since 2006, you have been one of the biggest sheeps here...I actually see you as commander sheep and im not joking... sorry, I cant take your comments on this serious...I think you'll just defend nintendo to deathcharizard1605

I've been here since 2008, but I can't blame you for thinking I'm some mega-important poster.

I'm kind of a big deal.

I've been called a lemming, a sheep, and a cow. If it seems like I don't really care about what you think of me, it's because I don't.

That's right, you show him! :P

Lol, totally just owned the dude xD

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#37 Fundai
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What are you talking abnout man, the N64 had the best contoller ever..

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#38 deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
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What are you talking abnout man, the N64 had the best contoller ever..

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#39 goblaa
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Wiimote is one of the most comfortable controllers ever simply because you can play with your hands at rest.

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#40 Fundai
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[QUOTE="Fundai"]

What are you talking abnout man, the N64 had the best contoller ever..

charizard1605

Not sure if serious.

Well I liked it... :(

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#41 VendettaRed07
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Uh... wat.... The NES, SNES, Gamecube controllers were amazing....

and heck even the Virtual Boy controller was awesome.....

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#42 dxmcat
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Dreamcast controller for ultimate win.... :D

Well at least microsoft thought so at first....haha.

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#43 lettuceman44
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The N64 controller by far was the worst.........Virtual boy I'm not even gonna bother forming an opinion on it. But the other ones, I don't see anything wrong with them? GC was by far the best to hold though.
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#44 Kaze_no_Mirai
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I disagree. Maybe the NES wasn't really comfortable. But the GameCube and Wii controllers are excellent.
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#45 nameless12345
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The N64 controller by far was the worstlettuceman44

The N64 pad was imho highly ergonomic. It just had a sucky D-pad and a slipery analog stick.

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#46 Jelley0
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The n64 controller was wonderful. Why so many complaints? I think most people are just complaining because of how it looks

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#47 demonic_85
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I liked the SNES and N64 controllers, had no issues playing with them. Never could get used to that bizarre Gamecbue controller and dont get me started on the Wiimote.

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#48 KristoffBrujah
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Who designed that Virtual Boy controller? My mind breaks imagining how I would handle it.

The Wii has awful controllers. It took me 15 minutes of playing Super Smash before giving up on one of my favorite fighting game genres.

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#49 nameless12345
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The n64 controller was wonderful. Why so many complaints? I think most people are just complaining because of how it looks

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I think they find the design too confusing :P

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#50 Kaze_no_Mirai
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Who designed that Virtual Boy controller? My mind breaks imagining how I would handle it.

The Wii has awful controllers. It took me 15 minutes of playing Super Smash before giving up on one of my favorite fighting game genres.

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I'm actually really good at it with all the available options for Brawl :P