OMG, why did Resistance 2 get any shooter nomination at all.

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#1 IshmaelSonata
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I played resistance 2 on my friend's PS3 for six hours straight, and at the end I seriously thought about going over to IGN, Gamespot and beating their editors with a chair for nominating this game for awards.

Its a decent enough game but nothing makes it stand out. Standard two weapon switch took out the best mechanic for the first game-the weapon wheel. The online co-op is surprisingly bland. lets not even talk about worthiness for nominations. R2 fans, sorry to break your heart, but I understand why this game is a big hit on a platform that has been starved for shooters.

But honestly, this game over Gears 2 for shooter of the year nominations??! wtf is going on.

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#2 ZoomZoom2490
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maybe because you like xbox360 more? or hate the ps3......

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#3 II_Seraphim_II
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"Player Hater. Turn your head round! lay on the ground! You've been robbed!"

Sorry, just had to quote some Biggie Smalls. Anyways, quit hating, the ladies dont like the haters :x

EDIT: This is for you TC

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Opinions opinions
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Opinions opinionsNocturnalNoctis


Yes reviews are opinions.
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I played resistance 2 on my friend's PS3 for six hours straight, and at the end I seriously thought about going over to IGN, Gamespot and beating their editors with a chair for nominating this game for awards.

Its a decent enough game but nothing makes it stand out. Standard two weapon switch took out the best mechanic for the first game-the weapon wheel. The online co-op is surprisingly bland. lets not even talk about worthiness for nominations. R2 fans, sorry to break your heart, but I understand why this game is a big hit on a platform that has been starved for shooters.

But honestly, this game over Gears 2 for shooter of the year nominations??! wtf is going on.

IshmaelSonata

R2's campaign was on par with Geow2

R2's gameplay was on par with Geow2

R2 was visually on par with Geow2 (consdering its larger areas)

R2's online is way better than Geow2 (this might have given the edge on which one to nominate)

Personally i think both games had to be nominated since I enjoyed both titles...

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Online co-op is fun dude, chill
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#8 nygiantsfan1
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I'm not sure what's worse, wanting to smash a chair over the head of people who nominated the game for an award or spending 6 hours straight playing a game you didn't like? Maybe the editors who nominated this game should smash a chair over your head.
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#9 Jekken6
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It's online multiplayer gave it the edge
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#10 Fire-of-Njozi
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it was a lean year for shooters. that's why.
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#11 walter429
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It's online multiplayer gave it the edgeJekken6
I sure hope not... that was the worst part about teh game.
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#12 II_Seraphim_II
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[QUOTE="Jekken6"]It's online multiplayer gave it the edgewalter429
I sure hope not... that was the worst part about teh game.

really? ok. :|
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#13 Fire-of-Njozi
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[QUOTE="Jekken6"]It's online multiplayer gave it the edgewalter429
I sure hope not... that was the worst part about teh game.

ummm...wat? come now.
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I played resistance 2 on my friend's PS3 for six hours straight.

IshmaelSonata
Got to admit it though, It draws you in :)
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"Player Hater. Turn your head round! lay on the ground! You've been robbed!"

Sorry, just had to quote some Biggie Smalls. Anyways, quit hating, the ladies dont like the haters :x

EDIT: This is for you TC

II_Seraphim_II

stop jacking it from him and using it in horrible contexts, you said absolutely nothing about R2, but I'll applaud you for demonstrating the ability to be quote.

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#16 IshmaelSonata
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R2's campaign was on par with Geow2

R2's gameplay was on par with Geow2

R2 was visually on par with Geow2 (consdering its larger areas)

R2's online is way better than Geow2 (this might have given the edge on which one to nominate)

Personally i think both games had to be nominated since I enjoyed both titles...

Malta_1980

R2's camaign is convulted, i think most people whos played both games would agree that gears 2 campaign had the edge.

R2's gameplay is worse than R1, why limit the amount of weapon usage to 2 when weapons are the best then about R2

R2's visuals are worse than gears, its definitely polished, but how long ago did we end the discussion on this topic, remember when killowned got owned really badly for his R2 > Gears 2 graphics threads?

R2's online is fun, but it was way over hyped, its passable for a decent shooter and the online community is decent but the only recent it got the nomination for multiplayer is because of the lack of more quality titles for the PS3 base.

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#17 IshmaelSonata
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Online co-op is fun dude, chillcoakroach

I never said it wasnt, but did it deserve a nomination for it.. seriously think about that

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#18 II_Seraphim_II
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[QUOTE="II_Seraphim_II"]

"Player Hater. Turn your head round! lay on the ground! You've been robbed!"

Sorry, just had to quote some Biggie Smalls. Anyways, quit hating, the ladies dont like the haters :x

EDIT: This is for you TC

IshmaelSonata

stop jacking it from him and using it in horrible contexts, you said absolutely nothing about R2, but I'll applaud you for demonstrating the ability to be quote.

lol Ok TC, let me hit you with some knowledge. Everything you stated in your post is nothing but absolute opinion. No matter what I say to counter it, you will just reply with more opinion, so there really is no point trying to convince you. The way I see it, you sound like a X360 fanboy who is just pissed off that the game industry didnt think Gears 2 was all that great. But anyways, since you'll still probably whine and complain this will be pointless but I'll tell you where Resistance 2 is better than gears2

Online in Resistance 2 is better than in Gears2. Like you said about gears2 singleplayer r, most people will tell you that Resistance 2 multiplayer is better than Gears2. It has so much more going for it. Great Skirmish mode, your standard Deathmath, Team Deathmatch modes, your capture the flag modes, all with unnoticable lag (something Gears2 lacks) even on 60 player matches. The Coop mode is innovative and new to the FPS genre and it adds alot of great teamwork and is alot of fun. Complain all you want, the fact remains that people enjoy Resistance 2's online modes.

As for single player, both Gears 2 and Resistance 2 have pretty drab single player experiences. None are really worthy of mention, but the fact remains that (and this is by general consensus) that quality of Resistance 2's multiplayer over Gears2 multiplayer is greater than the quality of Gears2 single player over Resistance 2 singleplayer. At the end of the day, we all spend time the most time playing multiplayer.. And im pretty sure the fact that Resistance 2 pushed the franchise alot further than Gears2 had an effect. Gears2 is pretty much just a prettier Gears1 while Resistance 2 got a complete revamp.

P.S. I love how people play a game for 6 hours then complain. You do realize you could have stoped playing at anytime...right?

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Here ya go

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At the end of the day, we all spend time the most time playing multiplayerII_Seraphim_II
No, we don't. I love it when people underestimate the single player crowd.
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#21 II_Seraphim_II
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[QUOTE="II_Seraphim_II"]At the end of the day, we all spend time the most time playing multiplayernethernova
No, we don't. I love it when people underestimate the single player crowd.

ok, at the end of the day, a lot of people spend time playing multiplayer, because there are only so many ways you can beat a singleplayer game before it becomes monotonous.
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It overshadowed Gears 2 :shock: I don't care if you like it or not, it's widely agreed to be great.
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#23 ducati101
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Personally its not a 9.0 game.If this was a multiplat game it would not have gotten a high score.I'm no fanboy,i game on all systems.For me compare it to other fps's and its very nediocre,but on ps3 it will get a high score.Not much to judge it against.This is purely my opinion.
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Sorry meant to say mediocre,oopppss.
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#25 II_Seraphim_II
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Personally its not a 9.0 game.If this was a multiplat game it would not have gotten a high score.I'm no fanboy,i game on all systems.For me compare it to other fps's and its very nediocre,but on ps3 it will get a high score.Not much to judge it against.This is purely my opinion.ducati101
how would it get a lower score if it were a multiplat? I dont think they rate PS3/X360 games based on what platforms they appear on :? For Wii, sure, because the technological difference between the Wii and the other 2 is so large, but for X360 and PS3, they are rated the same. It still would have gotten a 9.0 And just to further justify my theory, if you are claiming that it only got high scores because it was on the PS3, then why was it a nominee for GOTY? GOTY takes into account all systems, so if R2 was just bumped up due to it being on the PS3, it would never have been a nominee compared to all the other supposedly better games.
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#26 ducati101
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My point is if you look at pc and xbox360 FPS's and compare them to Resistance 2,all of a sudden it doesnt look so special.Dont get me wrong i'm happy with my PS3,its just that this game is nowhere near as good as its been made.The graphics are terrible,the Ai is terrible,the PS3 is more capable then this.Thats what i think.Oh and not all games nominated for GOTY are deserved nominations,i work in game development and there's more going on then you realise.But hey if you like Resistance 2,good for you.Thats the only opinion that should matter.Personally i thought HALO 3 was very generic,but the first HALO was a good game.Doesnt mean im right,just right for me.
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It is not best game ever but same can be said about most shooters... Gears of war 2, Halo 3 just to name few.
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#28 H-townN1gga
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r2 online destroys geow2 online

is just more fun

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#29 EVOLV3
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Its January 22nd and lemmings still feel the need to argue about nominations. Please move on.
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#30 joopyme
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In this case:

Their reviews, are > than YOUR rant.

FACT.

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#31 WasntAvailable
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It overshadowed Gears 2 :shock: I don't care if you like it or not, it's widely agreed to be great.Floppy_Jim

What do you mean it overshadowed GeoW 2? It didn't sell any near as much, didn't exceed GeoW 2s review score, came well under the average review score of GeoW 2 and people stoped talking about it a short period of time after it came out. People still mention GeoW 2 all the time, espically concerning graphics. These are usually the only topics that pop up about R2 (There is a good posibility this is damage control though.) Personally I prefered R2, but it's a bit of a long shot to state that it overshadowed GeoW 2.

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[QUOTE="IshmaelSonata"][QUOTE="II_Seraphim_II"]

"Player Hater. Turn your head round! lay on the ground! You've been robbed!"

Sorry, just had to quote some Biggie Smalls. Anyways, quit hating, the ladies dont like the haters :x

EDIT: This is for you TC

II_Seraphim_II

stop jacking it from him and using it in horrible contexts, you said absolutely nothing about R2, but I'll applaud you for demonstrating the ability to be quote.

lol Ok TC, let me hit you with some knowledge. Everything you stated in your post is nothing but absolute opinion. No matter what I say to counter it, you will just reply with more opinion, so there really is no point trying to convince you. The way I see it, you sound like a X360 fanboy who is just pissed off that the game industry didnt think Gears 2 was all that great. But anyways, since you'll still probably whine and complain this will be pointless but I'll tell you where Resistance 2 is better than gears2

Online in Resistance 2 is better than in Gears2. Like you said about gears2 singleplayer r, most people will tell you that Resistance 2 multiplayer is better than Gears2. It has so much more going for it. Great Skirmish mode, your standard Deathmath, Team Deathmatch modes, your capture the flag modes, all with unnoticable lag (something Gears2 lacks) even on 60 player matches. The Coop mode is innovative and new to the FPS genre and it adds alot of great teamwork and is alot of fun. Complain all you want, the fact remains that people enjoy Resistance 2's online modes.

As for single player, both Gears 2 and Resistance 2 have pretty drab single player experiences. None are really worthy of mention, but the fact remains that (and this is by general consensus) that quality of Resistance 2's multiplayer over Gears2 multiplayer is greater than the quality of Gears2 single player over Resistance 2 singleplayer. At the end of the day, we all spend time the most time playing multiplayer.. And im pretty sure the fact that Resistance 2 pushed the franchise alot further than Gears2 had an effect. Gears2 is pretty much just a prettier Gears1 while Resistance 2 got a complete revamp.

P.S. I love how people play a game for 6 hours then complain. You do realize you could have stoped playing at anytime...right?

Thats not knowlidge thats your opinion.

I found gears multiplayer much better than resistance's

Gears 2 94%

Resistance 2 87%

Not that we go by game rankings but you are implying that it is a wide consensus that resistance is better than gears and this shows it is not.

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[QUOTE="nethernova"][QUOTE="II_Seraphim_II"]At the end of the day, we all spend time the most time playing multiplayerII_Seraphim_II
No, we don't. I love it when people underestimate the single player crowd.

ok, at the end of the day, a lot of people spend time playing multiplayer, because there are only so many ways you can beat a singleplayer game before it becomes monotonous.

In the end of the day alot of us are smart enough to either A: Use Gamefly B: Sell our Games on Ebay C: Trade them on Goozex and therefore don't need to worry about the IMO highly overated Replayability factor.

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maybe because you like xbox360 more? or hate the ps3......

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Or maybe he's just being honest? Resistance is such a cookie-cutter game.
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#35 Ninja-Hippo
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[QUOTE="IshmaelSonata"]

I played resistance 2 on my friend's PS3 for six hours straight, and at the end I seriously thought about going over to IGN, Gamespot and beating their editors with a chair for nominating this game for awards.

Its a decent enough game but nothing makes it stand out. Standard two weapon switch took out the best mechanic for the first game-the weapon wheel. The online co-op is surprisingly bland. lets not even talk about worthiness for nominations. R2 fans, sorry to break your heart, but I understand why this game is a big hit on a platform that has been starved for shooters.

But honestly, this game over Gears 2 for shooter of the year nominations??! wtf is going on.

Malta_1980

R2's campaign was on par with Geow2

R2's gameplay was on par with Geow2

R2 was visually on par with Geow2 (consdering its larger areas)

R2's online is way better than Geow2 (this might have given the edge on which one to nominate)

Personally i think both games had to be nominated since I enjoyed both titles...

The first three are not true. Resistance has better multiplayer than Gears, because Epic seemed to royally screw up in that area. But Gears 2 had a stellar campaign, whereas most reviews highlighted a rather dull campaign for resistance which i agreed with, especially the co-op. Gameplay is all opinion, so i cant argue with that, but i find gears more fun that resistance. And "resistance is visually on par with Geow2" gets a "no, just no" from me. It isn't. No argument. It just isn't.
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It overshadowed Gears 2 :shock: I don't care if you like it or not, it's widely agreed to be great.Floppy_Jim

Overall sales and reviews say it didn't "overshadow" Gears 2, though.

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[QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"]It overshadowed Gears 2 :shock: I don't care if you like it or not, it's widely agreed to be great.BioShockOwnz

Overall sales and reviews say it didn't "overshadow" Gears 2, though.

As the Thread Creator said:

"this game over Gears 2 for shooter of the year nominations??!"

:shock:

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#40 joopyme
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In this case:

Their reviews, are > than YOUR rant.

FACT.

joopyme

quoted for emphasis.

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#41 BioShockOwnz
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[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

[QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"]It overshadowed Gears 2 :shock: I don't care if you like it or not, it's widely agreed to be great.Floppy_Jim

Overall sales and reviews say it didn't "overshadow" Gears 2, though.

As the Thread Creator said:

"this game over Gears 2 for shooter of the year nominations??!"

:shock:

So what means more... sales, reviews, or one GOTY nomination? Just wondering...

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#42 WasntAvailable
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[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

[QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"]It overshadowed Gears 2 :shock: I don't care if you like it or not, it's widely agreed to be great.Floppy_Jim

Overall sales and reviews say it didn't "overshadow" Gears 2, though.

As the Thread Creator said:

"this game over Gears 2 for shooter of the year nominations??!"

:shock:

That's not really the same as saying, "Resistance 2 overshadowed GeoW 2". The only time this has actually been the case is in the 2008 Gamespot GotY nominations. It would have made much more sense to say, "Resistance 2 overshadowed GeoW 2 in the Gamespot GotY 2008 nominations, because it was better." Which would have had the same effect, only would have got the point across more clearly.

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#43 II_Seraphim_II
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In the end of the day alot of us are smart enough to either A: Use Gamefly B: Sell our Games on Ebay C: Trade them on Goozex and therefore don't need to worry about the IMO highly overated Replayability factor.

acsguitar

Not everyone lives in a country that gives them access to gamefly, or goozex and alot of people are young and dont have immediate access to a credit card or an ebay account. And maybe, just maybe...some people actually like to keep their games...you know...like collectors, or maybe they realize "Hey! Maybe I might want to play this game at a later time! Let me save this game!" Just throwing that out there.....

Thats not knowlidge thats your opinion.

I found gears multiplayer much better than resistance's

Gears 2 94%

Resistance 2 87%

Not that we go by game rankings but you are implying that it is a wide consensus that resistance is better than gears and this shows it is not.

Jacboy71
Yeah, im going by gamespot...you know, the site we are on? And like I stated any argument any brings up is pointless because the other party will just throw it up to opinion, just like you did, so thank you for further proving my point. This entire argument is based on nothing but pure opinion from his, mine, yours and reviewers sides. We cant argue with that, which is why I think the TC is just whining because his game didnt get nominated. He may not understand but alot of people including the people at the review sites that nominated R2 (since he is talking about nominations) obviously understand why they thought it deserved it more than gears2. So he hates R2, big whoop! I hate KOTOR and fallout 3, but you dont see me making threads about (I comment about it in threads about them, but I dont actually go out of my way to make entire threads bashing them). People have different opinions and thats just what reviews and nonimations are, opinions.
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#44 II_Seraphim_II
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That's not really the same as saying, "Resistance 2 overshadowed GeoW 2". The only time this has actually been the case is in the 2008 Gamespot GotY nominations. It would have made much more sense to say, "Resistance 2 overshadowed GeoW 2 in the Gamespot GotY 2008 nominations, because it was better." Which would have had the same effect, only would have got the point across more clearly.

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but seeing as how he is complaining about R2 nominations, it should already be taken into consideration that we are referring to websites that nominated R2 over Gears2. He obviously isn't complaining about sites that rated gears2 better so there really is no need to assume we are referring to those sites.

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#45 Floppy_Jim
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[QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"][QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

Overall sales and reviews say it didn't "overshadow" Gears 2, though.

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As the Thread Creator said:

"this game over Gears 2 for shooter of the year nominations??!"

:shock:

So what means more... sales, reviews, or one GOTY nomination? Just wondering...

On GS, their reviews and their Best of 2008 awards count. Silly Gamespot and their silly opinions.

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#46 Floppy_Jim
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[QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"][QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

Overall sales and reviews say it didn't "overshadow" Gears 2, though.

WasntAvailable

As the Thread Creator said:

"this game over Gears 2 for shooter of the year nominations??!"

:shock:

That's not really the same as saying, "Resistance 2 overshadowed GeoW 2". The only time this has actually been the case is in the 2008 Gamespot GotY nominations. It would have made much more sense to say, "Resistance 2 overshadowed GeoW 2 in the Gamespot GotY 2008 nominations, because it was better." Which would have had the same effect, only would have got the point across more clearly.

And IGN! But they don't count. Anyway, it should have been obvious that that was what I meant.

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people support resistance2's multiplayer because they dont really have anything else to support other than multiplat shooters, its really average. 2-3 guns that are actually useful, huge but empty maps, false 60 player bullet point, boring game modes outside of deathmatch..there's nothing special about the multiplayer honestly.
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I played resistance 2 on my friend's PS3 for six hours straight, and at the end I seriously thought about going over to IGN, Gamespot and beating their editors with a chair for nominating this game for awards.

Its a decent enough game but nothing makes it stand out. Standard two weapon switch took out the best mechanic for the first game-the weapon wheel. The online co-op is surprisingly bland. lets not even talk about worthiness for nominations. R2 fans, sorry to break your heart, but I understand why this game is a big hit on a platform that has been starved for shooters.

But honestly, this game over Gears 2 for shooter of the year nominations??! wtf is going on.

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Hate to break your heart, but the fact is, R2 has received more praise than Gears 2. (At least here on GameSpot) :P
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#49 carljohnson3456
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Sorry TC, but after playing both Resistance 2 and Gears of War 2, I came to the conclusion that Resistance is a better game. Equally fun single player, funner coop, funner multiplayer. I never thought I would come to that conclusion, since I loved the original Gears so much more than the original Resistance... but hey, what are ya gonna do?

EDIT: The one thing they did do right for Gears 2 is Horde though... very fun.

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people support resistance2's multiplayer because they dont really have anything else to support other than multiplat shooters, its really average. 2-3 guns that are actually useful, huge but empty maps, false 60 player bullet point, boring game modes outside of deathmatch..there's nothing special about the multiplayer honestly. hopesfall2own
Dude I have a 360 as well as a PS3 so I have more of an option than just "multiplat shooters" to support online, and Resistance 2 has a great multiplayer. It's not magnificent, and it might not be "special", but it's just fun. I am hoping Insomniac might patch in some more game modes for it sooner or later, because it only has like 3 or 4 game modes I think... anyway, I play it because it's fun, not because I dont have any other shooter to "support".