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#1 NocturnalDemon
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Halo 3 may have a slightly better single player, but UT3 is going to trash Halo 3 online.  Epic knows how to make a great multiplayer experience.  From the levels, the modes, and even the gameplay itself.  Hells, even UT'99 trashes Halo 2.  Xbox 360 and PS3 owners are in for an amazing treat.  This is the first UT game that is not a port, but a multiplat- meaning it won't be crap.  Besides, which main dude looks cooler:  some guy hiding behind a butt ugly green suit...

or this guy (one of many btw) who looks like he's about to tear your face off...

 

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If UT3 is going to be as fast as UT2004 then UT3 will easily beat Halo 3 in terms of gameplay. I cannot stand the slow moving gameplay of Halo. Just my opinion.
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#3 Ibacai
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My personal prediction is that UT3 will be better.
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#4 pundog
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Let me get out my crystal ball.... Halo 3 by a hair due to the fact it is comforable enough with its masculinity to call something the "man cannon".

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#5 rockstar183
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after seeein all the new halo 3 vids i have to go with halo
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#6 Bansheesdie
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If UT3 is going to be as fast as UT2004 then UT3 will easily beat Halo 3 in terms of gameplay. I cannot stand the slow moving gameplay of Halo. Just my opinion.foxhound_fox

If thats the case then Halo 3 will do to UT 07 what Halo 2 did to UT 04.

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#7 NocturnalDemon
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after seeein all the new halo 3 vids i have to go with halo rockstar183

We're not talking about graphics.  But...have you even seen UT3 vids?  Halo 3 doesn't even come close to touching UT3 graphically. 

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#8 pundog
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[QUOTE="rockstar183"]after seeein all the new halo 3 vids i have to go with halo NocturnalDemon

We're not talking about graphics.  But...have you even seen UT3 vids?  Halo 3 doesn't even come close to touching UT3 graphically. 

He couldn't have possibly been talking about gameplay right?
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#9 raidenseven
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Halo 2's MP was awsome, Halo 3 wil be even better,

anyway halo for me, since i have always enjoyed halos MP more than UT.

and MC isnt ugly, the halo and UT jutst have completely different character looks.

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#10 NocturnalDemon
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[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]If UT3 is going to be as fast as UT2004 then UT3 will easily beat Halo 3 in terms of gameplay. I cannot stand the slow moving gameplay of Halo. Just my opinion.Bansheesdie

If thats the case then Halo 3 will do to UT 07 what Halo 2 did to UT 04.

Unreal Championship was a bad port.  UT3 isn't a port.  It's a multiplat.  The game is being customized for console speeds. 

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#11 NocturnalDemon
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[QUOTE="NocturnalDemon"]

[QUOTE="rockstar183"]after seeein all the new halo 3 vids i have to go with halo pundog

We're not talking about graphics. But...have you even seen UT3 vids? Halo 3 doesn't even come close to touching UT3 graphically.

He couldn't have possibly been talking about gameplay right?

You can't tell gameplay well just from videos.  Hence why I thought he was talking about graphics.  Also graphic debates dominate system wars :( 

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#12 rockstar183
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[QUOTE="rockstar183"]after seeein all the new halo 3 vids i have to go with halo NocturnalDemon

We're not talking about graphics. But...have you even seen UT3 vids? Halo 3 doesn't even come close to touching UT3 graphically.

???? what are u talking about ??? the grafix in halo dont even look that good . im saying it looks like a hella fun
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I would agree here, Epic is more expericenced and better at making MP games.
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#14 raidenseven
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If UT3 is going to be as fast as UT2004 then UT3 will easily beat Halo 3 in terms of gameplay. I cannot stand the slow moving gameplay of Halo. Just my opinion.foxhound_fox

i love halo 1 and 2's slower feel, i mean fast paced is great, but halo was just that right speed for me and things could get frantic in halo also.

and halo 3 is shapping up to have the same feel as halo 1 so im happy.

 

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#15 NocturnalDemon
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[QUOTE="NocturnalDemon"]

[QUOTE="rockstar183"]after seeein all the new halo 3 vids i have to go with halo rockstar183

We're not talking about graphics. But...have you even seen UT3 vids? Halo 3 doesn't even come close to touching UT3 graphically.

???? what are u talking about ??? the grafix in halo dont even look that good . im saying it looks like a hella fun

Sorry, my mistake. :?

I thought you were talking about graphics, since that's the first thing anyone seems to point out here in system wars. 

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#16 Bansheesdie
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Unreal Championship was a bad port.  UT3 isn't a port.  It's a multiplat.  The game is being customized for console speeds. NocturnalDemon

What I was talking about was GS naming MP GOTY of 2004 to Halo 2 over UT 04.

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#17 KrazyKenKutarag
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Halo 3 for me, as much as I liked UT04, I can't refuse a good game of team snipers.
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#18 hellsingfan666
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UT3 due to mods
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#19 pundog
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[QUOTE="pundog"][QUOTE="NocturnalDemon"]

[QUOTE="rockstar183"]after seeein all the new halo 3 vids i have to go with halo NocturnalDemon

We're not talking about graphics. But...have you even seen UT3 vids? Halo 3 doesn't even come close to touching UT3 graphically.

He couldn't have possibly been talking about gameplay right?

You can't tell gameplay well just from videos.  Hence why I thought he was talking about graphics.  Also graphic debates dominate system wars :( 

You can get a good feel for it though, and the various Halo 3 beta videos floating around look like a s***load of fun.
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#20 Uptown
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UT3 for me.  Its more intense and competitive.....floaty movement of Halo MP just doesnt do it for me.  Not to mention the massive amount of gametypes UT games have...and of course the mod support.  Christ lets not forget KB&M > Gamepad forever.  I personally despise gamepad FPS titles for multiplayer...i can deal with it for singleplayer but I prefer the accuracy and speed of the mouse & kb
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Anyone else think its really pointless to compare gameplay of games no one has played.
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#22 cj2121
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Halo 3. It already has a huge fanbase who still play Halo 2 online and will play Halo 3 online at there first chance.

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#23 -Reggaeton-
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Seriously how can you even compare the two?! Halo is trash in pretty much every way.

UT FTW 

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#24 Supafly1
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I'd take Master Chief because someone who wears a heavy armor and not a protection helmet is dumb, like that guy in the UT3 picture.
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#25 SpaceDragonMan
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Unreal Tournament is waaay too fast. I feel like I'm on Speed,XTC and Smack put together when I play it....
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[QUOTE="NocturnalDemon"]Unreal Championship was a bad port. UT3 isn't a port. It's a multiplat. The game is being customized for console speeds. Bansheesdie

What I was talking about was GS naming MP GOTY of 2004 to Halo 2 over UT 04.

Well Unreal 2004 had a GOTY addition, so perhaps GS was one of the exceptions? 

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#27 redstormrisen
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To be honest, this fight will go on till doomsday. Since I have played halo 3 (halo 2s problems have been ironed out) i'm going to say that. Hell, Iwill most probably buy and play both so I don't even know why i'm posting here.

 

Shadowrun FTW.

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whats gonna be new in ut3? a rehashed gametype and a few new vehicles?

halo 3 has:

7 new weapons,2 new gametypes, a completely revamped matchmaking mode with clans and complete stat tracking like how many double kills you have or how many times u got a kill with the oddball, Equipment never before seen in an FPS game before (come on  name 1 fps with equipment like a bubble shield or powerdrainer).

yea i think halo 3 is gonna be better than UT3 and Crysis which looks like farcry with a gay a$$ suit 

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#29 Zuluking187
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UT3
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#30 MoldOnHold
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let's wait until both of those games get released eh?
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#31 drnick7
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UT3, without a doubt.
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#32 smokeydabear076
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UT3, but Halo 3 will still be fun.
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#33 -Sora
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Seeing how the 360 will be getting both games, ill be playing both games and will like them both.

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whats gonna be new in ut3? a rehashed gametype and a few new vehicles?

halo 3 has:

7 new weapons,2 new gametypes, a completely revamped matchmaking mode with clans and complete stat tracking like how many double kills you have or how many times u got a kill with the oddball, Equipment never before seen in an FPS game before (come on name 1 fps with equipment like a bubble shield or powerdrainer).

yea i think halo 3 is gonna be better than UT3 and Crysis which looks like farcry with a gay a$$ suit

NoNam3r

Halo 3 7 new weapons with a few removed, or just transformed -

UT 2 different weapons  all weapons are very well balanced unlike Halo's - envolves more shooting than nad/melee spam.

 

Halo 3 Multiplayer - 2 new gametypes that ALREADY existed in UT3 OH MY~! MAtchmaking? both will have that, clans? UT has it, Stats? Well we are unsure but UT2004 had stats no doubt this will expand on it aswell, Bubble Shield and Power Draining? 007 GOLDENEYE (the newer crappy one) .... 

UT3 Multiplayer - 24 players (console) up to 48 (PC) - Excellent beutiful well adjusted maps, most gamemodes, some incredible viechles (Lethiathan anyone)? Greatly balanced weapons, fast paced, Stats, MAtchmaking, TOURMENTS (Halo 3 will have crappy unrecoreded ones) Excellent Map/Mod community, and better net coding than Failo...

Crysis ... I dont expect the multiplayer to be great, but it has so much Halo doesnt, .... but but teh console noobish gameplay :cry: ... Halo is outdated 

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If UT3 is going to be as fast as UT2004 then UT3 will easily beat Halo 3 in terms of gameplay. I cannot stand the slow moving gameplay of Halo. Just my opinion.foxhound_fox

I disagree.  Speed does not dictate which game has better gameplay.  That's simply a matter of personal preference.  Both feel good once you get used to them.  And nothing "easily beats" the halo series in gameplay.

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#36 DA_B0MB
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My bet is that most of the people who voted UT3 have never even played a UT game and are just voting for UT because they hate Halo.
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#37 verbalfilth
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Why would you even compare the two?

Unreal Tournament is just untouchable when it comes to online multiplayer....especially the speed. XD

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UT3 by far...I really don't like Halo's multiplayer, but it might be worth playing.  If they got rid of the floating movement, it might be a bit enjoyable...
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My bet is that most of the people who voted UT3 have never even played a UT game and are just voting for UT because they hate Halo.DA_B0MB

What kinda logic is that .... *looks at your game list* oh look 360, no suprise there, its lemming logic! 

 

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UT3 due to modshellsingfan666
 

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[QUOTE="NoNam3r"]

whats gonna be new in ut3? a rehashed gametype and a few new vehicles?

halo 3 has:

7 new weapons,2 new gametypes, a completely revamped matchmaking mode with clans and complete stat tracking like how many double kills you have or how many times u got a kill with the oddball, Equipment never before seen in an FPS game before (come on name 1 fps with equipment like a bubble shield or powerdrainer).

yea i think halo 3 is gonna be better than UT3 and Crysis which looks like farcry with a gay a$$ suit

Meu2k7

Halo 3 7 new weapons with a few removed, or just transformed -

UT 2 different weapons all weapons are very well balanced unlike Halo's - envolves more shooting than nad/melee spam.

 

Halo 3 Multiplayer - 2 new gametypes that ALREADY existed in UT3 OH MY~! MAtchmaking? both will have that, clans? UT has it, Stats? Well we are unsure but UT2004 had stats no doubt this will expand on it aswell, Bubble Shield and Power Draining? 007 GOLDENEYE (the newer crappy one) ....

UT3 Multiplayer - 24 players (console) up to 48 (PC) - Excellent beutiful well adjusted maps, most gamemodes, some incredible viechles (Lethiathan anyone)? Greatly balanced weapons, fast paced, Stats, MAtchmaking, TOURMENTS (Halo 3 will have crappy unrecoreded ones) Excellent Map/Mod community, and better net coding than Failo...

Crysis ... I dont expect the multiplayer to be great, but it has so much Halo doesnt, .... but but teh console noobish gameplay :cry: ... Halo is outdated

that was a very fanboyish response.  we gonna cry about spamming the translocator in UT2004?  the almost worthless nature of the biorifle?  the general worthless nature of the default weapon?  the weapons in most games have been done before and UT has very few original weapon.  does that make it a bad game?  No, but that's the criteria that you're judging Halo on.  Halo's multiplayer is simply fantastic.  UT2004's is also great, but there are pro's and con's with having so many maps (ie, maps becoming watered down on the whole, as well as people never really becoming masters on any particular set of levels).

Personally, I'd rather play UT3...but your argument is fully of hyproctitical flaws that must be pointed out.  Halo 3 will have some of the best multiplayer maps ever created.  It will have some of the best sound ever implemented.  And by all accounts, Halo 3's gameplay is superior Halo 2's gameplay, which got a perfect 10 here. 

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Ut games rock, I've gone to GameCamp! for 3 years now and we always have UT tournies. However I did get bored after 30 minutes of play, seemed repetive. (I also died alot, but you don't have to know that :P)

 

Halo seems to hold my attention for hours. Thus, Go! Go! Bungie! Halo 3 has my vote.

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#43 Dreams-Visions
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Why would you even compare the two?

Unreal Tournament is just untouchable when it comes to online multiplayer....especially the speed. XD

verbalfilth

again, making speed the determining factor...that is simpy a matter of preference.  both games feel right after an adjustment period.  you really get used to both...if you want to get used to both.

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[QUOTE="Meu2k7"][QUOTE="NoNam3r"]

whats gonna be new in ut3? a rehashed gametype and a few new vehicles?

halo 3 has:

7 new weapons,2 new gametypes, a completely revamped matchmaking mode with clans and complete stat tracking like how many double kills you have or how many times u got a kill with the oddball, Equipment never before seen in an FPS game before (come on name 1 fps with equipment like a bubble shield or powerdrainer).

yea i think halo 3 is gonna be better than UT3 and Crysis which looks like farcry with a gay a$$ suit

Dreams-Visions

Halo 3 7 new weapons with a few removed, or just transformed -

UT 2 different weapons all weapons are very well balanced unlike Halo's - envolves more shooting than nad/melee spam.

 

Halo 3 Multiplayer - 2 new gametypes that ALREADY existed in UT3 OH MY~! MAtchmaking? both will have that, clans? UT has it, Stats? Well we are unsure but UT2004 had stats no doubt this will expand on it aswell, Bubble Shield and Power Draining? 007 GOLDENEYE (the newer crappy one) ....

UT3 Multiplayer - 24 players (console) up to 48 (PC) - Excellent beutiful well adjusted maps, most gamemodes, some incredible viechles (Lethiathan anyone)? Greatly balanced weapons, fast paced, Stats, MAtchmaking, TOURMENTS (Halo 3 will have crappy unrecoreded ones) Excellent Map/Mod community, and better net coding than Failo...

Crysis ... I dont expect the multiplayer to be great, but it has so much Halo doesnt, .... but but teh console noobish gameplay :cry: ... Halo is outdated

that was a very fanboyish response. we gonna cry about spamming the translocator in UT2004? the almost worthless nature of the biorifle? the general worthless nature of the default weapon? the weapons in most games have been done before and UT has very few original weapon. does that make it a bad game? No, but that's the criteria that you're judging Halo on. Halo's multiplayer is simply fantastic. UT2004's is also great, but there are pro's and con's with having so many maps (ie, maps becoming watered down on the whole, as well as people never really becoming masters on any particular set of levels).

Personally, I'd rather play UT3...but your argument is fully of hyproctitical flaws that must be pointed out. Halo 3 will have some of the best multiplayer maps ever created. It will have some of the best sound ever implemented. And by all accounts, Halo 3's gameplay is superior Halo 2's gameplay, which got a perfect 10 here.

Thats the whole point, Fanboyish response to a fanyboyish post, its the SW way.

I'l have all 3 games, and play Halo 1 on LAN in college all the time, makes little difference to me, but Halo 2 went backwards in refining Halo 1 in some aspects, the translocated was great how can you dis that! :o 

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#45 Dreams-Visions
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[QUOTE="hellsingfan666"]UT3 due to modsInfernal246

Define mods. 

Do you mean additional weapons?  Different characters?  User-created maps?  Or do you mean MODS, like Red Orchestra?

I've found that most user-created maps SUCK (poorly designed, as expected...they're users!).  I've found that weapon mods are usually "meh".  Different characters, however, are always cool. 

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[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="Meu2k7"][QUOTE="NoNam3r"]

whats gonna be new in ut3? a rehashed gametype and a few new vehicles?

halo 3 has:

7 new weapons,2 new gametypes, a completely revamped matchmaking mode with clans and complete stat tracking like how many double kills you have or how many times u got a kill with the oddball, Equipment never before seen in an FPS game before (come on name 1 fps with equipment like a bubble shield or powerdrainer).

yea i think halo 3 is gonna be better than UT3 and Crysis which looks like farcry with a gay a$$ suit

Meu2k7

Halo 3 7 new weapons with a few removed, or just transformed -

UT 2 different weapons all weapons are very well balanced unlike Halo's - envolves more shooting than nad/melee spam.

 

Halo 3 Multiplayer - 2 new gametypes that ALREADY existed in UT3 OH MY~! MAtchmaking? both will have that, clans? UT has it, Stats? Well we are unsure but UT2004 had stats no doubt this will expand on it aswell, Bubble Shield and Power Draining? 007 GOLDENEYE (the newer crappy one) ....

UT3 Multiplayer - 24 players (console) up to 48 (PC) - Excellent beutiful well adjusted maps, most gamemodes, some incredible viechles (Lethiathan anyone)? Greatly balanced weapons, fast paced, Stats, MAtchmaking, TOURMENTS (Halo 3 will have crappy unrecoreded ones) Excellent Map/Mod community, and better net coding than Failo...

Crysis ... I dont expect the multiplayer to be great, but it has so much Halo doesnt, .... but but teh console noobish gameplay :cry: ... Halo is outdated

that was a very fanboyish response. we gonna cry about spamming the translocator in UT2004? the almost worthless nature of the biorifle? the general worthless nature of the default weapon? the weapons in most games have been done before and UT has very few original weapon. does that make it a bad game? No, but that's the criteria that you're judging Halo on. Halo's multiplayer is simply fantastic. UT2004's is also great, but there are pro's and con's with having so many maps (ie, maps becoming watered down on the whole, as well as people never really becoming masters on any particular set of levels).

Personally, I'd rather play UT3...but your argument is fully of hyproctitical flaws that must be pointed out. Halo 3 will have some of the best multiplayer maps ever created. It will have some of the best sound ever implemented. And by all accounts, Halo 3's gameplay is superior Halo 2's gameplay, which got a perfect 10 here.

Thats the whole point, Fanboyish response to a fanyboyish post, its the SW way.

I'l have all 3 games, and play Halo 1 on LAN in college all the time, makes little difference to me, but Halo 2 went backwards in refining Halo 1 in some aspects, the translocated was great how can you dis that! :shock:

but....okay :( do you.

you could also hold yourself to a higher standard, telling him why he's wrong without being equally ridiculous.

as for the translocator...it depends on the map. it can get pretty damn irritating when trying to take down people that are simply flying through the sky via translocator. creates lots of problems. not the thread for that discussion, though. I like the translocator in UT '99 much more.

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#47 Meu2k7
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[QUOTE="Meu2k7"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="Meu2k7"][QUOTE="NoNam3r"]

whats gonna be new in ut3? a rehashed gametype and a few new vehicles?

halo 3 has:

7 new weapons,2 new gametypes, a completely revamped matchmaking mode with clans and complete stat tracking like how many double kills you have or how many times u got a kill with the oddball, Equipment never before seen in an FPS game before (come on name 1 fps with equipment like a bubble shield or powerdrainer).

yea i think halo 3 is gonna be better than UT3 and Crysis which looks like farcry with a gay a$$ suit

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Halo 3 7 new weapons with a few removed, or just transformed -

UT 2 different weapons all weapons are very well balanced unlike Halo's - envolves more shooting than nad/melee spam.

 

Halo 3 Multiplayer - 2 new gametypes that ALREADY existed in UT3 OH MY~! MAtchmaking? both will have that, clans? UT has it, Stats? Well we are unsure but UT2004 had stats no doubt this will expand on it aswell, Bubble Shield and Power Draining? 007 GOLDENEYE (the newer crappy one) ....

UT3 Multiplayer - 24 players (console) up to 48 (PC) - Excellent beutiful well adjusted maps, most gamemodes, some incredible viechles (Lethiathan anyone)? Greatly balanced weapons, fast paced, Stats, MAtchmaking, TOURMENTS (Halo 3 will have crappy unrecoreded ones) Excellent Map/Mod community, and better net coding than Failo...

Crysis ... I dont expect the multiplayer to be great, but it has so much Halo doesnt, .... but but teh console noobish gameplay :cry: ... Halo is outdated

that was a very fanboyish response. we gonna cry about spamming the translocator in UT2004? the almost worthless nature of the biorifle? the general worthless nature of the default weapon? the weapons in most games have been done before and UT has very few original weapon. does that make it a bad game? No, but that's the criteria that you're judging Halo on. Halo's multiplayer is simply fantastic. UT2004's is also great, but there are pro's and con's with having so many maps (ie, maps becoming watered down on the whole, as well as people never really becoming masters on any particular set of levels).

Personally, I'd rather play UT3...but your argument is fully of hyproctitical flaws that must be pointed out. Halo 3 will have some of the best multiplayer maps ever created. It will have some of the best sound ever implemented. And by all accounts, Halo 3's gameplay is superior Halo 2's gameplay, which got a perfect 10 here.

Thats the whole point, Fanboyish response to a fanyboyish post, its the SW way.

but....okay :( do you.

you could also hold yourself to a higher standard, telling him why he's wrong without being equally ridiculous.

Done so many times, repeating yourself gets boring, ;) 

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#48 Dreams-Visions
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^

fair.  cheers! :D 

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I think the ability to create my own map on UT3 is superior to any feature Halo 3 has to offer.
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#50 Dreams-Visions
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I think the ability to create my own map on UT3 is superior to any feature Halo 3 has to offer.smokeydabear076

the only question is...will your map SUCK or not.  chances are it will.  one thing I hate playing in UT2004 is bad user-created maps.  they lack...polish.