Online: Halo 3 vs UT3

[QUOTE="smokeydabear076"]I think the ability to create my own map on UT3 is superior to any feature Halo 3 has to offer.Dreams-Visions

the only question is...will your map SUCK or not. chances are it will. one thing I hate playing in UT2004 is bad user-created maps. they lack...polish.

There were some great ones too, even ones that wernt that graphically impressive, fergotten most of the names now, but that map where you all played in a Kitchen with an open fridge and work surfaces ect, was pretty funny, not graphically impressive but the layout was good, even if it wasnt built well with the deathmatch in mind (way too large) lots of people played it, because well ... it was so different :P

Needless to say Epic will probably pump out loads of maps this time around, seeing as its probably the final Unreal Tournement and its across 3 systems :D 

Although I think UT3 is the better game ... more gamemodes, weapons, characters and graphics

Halo has a better story (honestly who cares about what happens in UT's story) and matchmaking is better than UT method (which is like, alot of other games) of seaching for games. IMO

 As for online, Halo 3 will be better on consoles, while UT3 will be a close, but it'll be owning PC online. (I wish UT3 could be played crossplatform, to increase the amount of people playing even more though...)

[QUOTE="smokeydabear076"]I think the ability to create my own map on UT3 is superior to any feature Halo 3 has to offer.Dreams-Visions

the only question is...will your map SUCK or not. chances are it will. one thing I hate playing in UT2004 is bad user-created maps. they lack...polish.

If UT3 is going to be as fast as UT2004 then UT3 will easily beat Halo 3 in terms of gameplay. I cannot stand the slow moving gameplay of Halo. Just my opinion.foxhound_fox

 i m totally opposite. i find the fast pace in UT to be a bother.

Although I think UT3 is the better game ... more gamemodes, weapons, characters and graphics

Halo has a better story (honestly who cares about what happens in UT's story) and matchmaking is better than UT method (which is like, alot of other games) of seaching for games. IMO

As for online, Halo 3 will be better on consoles, while UT3 will be a close, but it'll be owning PC online. (I wish UT3 could be played crossplatform, to increase the amount of people playing even more though...)

treyskillz

Theres a high chance of cross platform play, one of the Video Intervies a few months back:

" At the moment we havnt acted on cross-platform play, but we are looking into it, however if we want the 360 vs PC we cannot include the PS3 because of Microsoft & Games for Windows LIVE connections, and the same story if we chose PS3 over 360"

Its impossible for all 3, PC will be in the mix ... since its the master platform, but its very likely, since EPIC is now MICROSOFT's **** that 360 will get the crossplatform play. ... kinda feel sorry for the PS3 users... theyle have the poorest experiance of the game, despite earlier development over 360.

[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]

[QUOTE="smokeydabear076"]I think the ability to create my own map on UT3 is superior to any feature Halo 3 has to offer.Meu2k7

the only question is...will your map SUCK or not. chances are it will. one thing I hate playing in UT2004 is bad user-created maps. they lack...polish.

There were some great ones too, even ones that wernt that graphically impressive, fergotten most of the names now, but that map where you all played in a Kitchen with an open fridge and work surfaces ect, was pretty funny, not graphically impressive but the layout was good, even if it wasnt built well with the deathmatch in mind (way too large) lots of people played it, because well ... it was so different :P

Needless to say Epic will probably pump out loads of maps this time around, seeing as its probably the final Unreal Tournement and its across 3 systems :D

lol yea, I was playing in a BARN instagib match last night, where the trailers had big murals of Axel Rose on the side of them.  :lol:

funny, but absolutely horrible maps, technically.  only a few objects in the way of the 2 bases.  like seriously, most (and guestimate 75%) of the maps are meodicre to poor in terms of innovative approach, planning and excellence.

but yes, I'm sure Epic will deliver on a good number of maps as always.  

id say halo 3 just cause of the matchmaking system

lately mp games with a lobby system just get on my nerves, sometimes its a hassle to get a game going

imo opinion the reason halo mp is so great is mainly because of the matchmaking, i mean u can so easily join a game, bring parties with u, its just so fast and simple. 

[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]

[QUOTE="smokeydabear076"]I think the ability to create my own map on UT3 is superior to any feature Halo 3 has to offer.smokeydabear076

the only question is...will your map SUCK or not. chances are it will. one thing I hate playing in UT2004 is bad user-created maps. they lack...polish.

Guess you missed the point entirely.  I'm not trying to force Halo 3 on anyone.  maybe you need to scroll up and read again which game I'm looking forward to.  I'm handling your point in a vaccum.  the only question is whether your map will SUCK or not.  I'd rather play 10 amazing maps than 30 mediocre maps.

there are pros and cons to user-created maps.  Personally, I'd like to see a separation in the maps.  I think UT3 should have a section for playing user-created maps....and a section for only Epic-approved maps.

[QUOTE="smokeydabear076"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]

[QUOTE="smokeydabear076"]I think the ability to create my own map on UT3 is superior to any feature Halo 3 has to offer.Dreams-Visions

the only question is...will your map SUCK or not. chances are it will. one thing I hate playing in UT2004 is bad user-created maps. they lack...polish.

Guess you missed the point entirely. I'm not trying to force Halo 3 on anyone. maybe you need to scroll up and read again which game I'm looking forward to. I'm handling your point in a vaccum. the only question is whether your map will SUCK or not. I'd rather play 10 amazing maps than 30 mediocre maps.

there are pros and cons to user-created maps. Personally, I'd like to see a separation in the maps. I think UT3 should have a section for playing user-created maps....and a section for only Epic-approved maps.

id say halo 3 just cause of the matchmaking system

lately mp games with a lobby system just get on my nerves, sometimes its a hassle to get a game going

imo opinion the reason halo mp is so great is mainly because of the matchmaking, i mean u can so easily join a game, bring parties with u, its just so fast and simple.

wooopz

That system will very much likely be in UT3, since they admitted previous versions on matchmaking wernt great and that theyd work on it, and have plenty of time to do so this time around, Both games are under MICROSOFT supervision, both aimed at hardcore Multiplayer, both should be great, but Halo can be too slow at times for me. 

If UT3 is going to be as fast as UT2004 then UT3 will easily beat Halo 3 in terms of gameplay. I cannot stand the slow moving gameplay of Halo. Just my opinion.foxhound_fox

Ugh, I know what you mean.

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]If UT3 is going to be as fast as UT2004 then UT3 will easily beat Halo 3 in terms of gameplay. I cannot stand the slow moving gameplay of Halo. Just my opinion.-The-G-Man-

Ugh, I know what you mean.

Timesplitters and Unreal Tournent ... 2 best fast paced Multiplayer FPS's :D 

Lets see.....

Unreal Tournament 3 will have........

• Better Graphics
• More Maps
• More Vehicles
  
• More GameTypes
• More Mods
• Dedicated Servers
• Mouse & Keyboard
• Improved Community Features over 2K4
• ...and Ventrilo is awesome and far better quality than XBL Headsets.
  

We'll see when they both come out but I personally prefer FPS multiplayer games on my PC. Theyre just better.

[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="smokeydabear076"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]

[QUOTE="smokeydabear076"]I think the ability to create my own map on UT3 is superior to any feature Halo 3 has to offer.smokeydabear076

the only question is...will your map SUCK or not. chances are it will. one thing I hate playing in UT2004 is bad user-created maps. they lack...polish.

Guess you missed the point entirely. I'm not trying to force Halo 3 on anyone. maybe you need to scroll up and read again which game I'm looking forward to. I'm handling your point in a vaccum. the only question is whether your map will SUCK or not. I'd rather play 10 amazing maps than 30 mediocre maps.

there are pros and cons to user-created maps. Personally, I'd like to see a separation in the maps. I think UT3 should have a section for playing user-created maps....and a section for only Epic-approved maps.

no.

In my opinion most of the USER CREATED maps in the UT series are mediocre.  Pretty big difference.  And yea, if you've found the majority of user-created UT maps to be great...yea, we disagree.

[QUOTE="NoNam3r"]

whats gonna be new in ut3? a rehashed gametype and a few new vehicles?

halo 3 has:

7 new weapons,2 new gametypes, a completely revamped matchmaking mode with clans and complete stat tracking like how many double kills you have or how many times u got a kill with the oddball, Equipment never before seen in an FPS game before (come on name 1 fps with equipment like a bubble shield or powerdrainer).

yea i think halo 3 is gonna be better than UT3 and Crysis which looks like farcry with a gay a$$ suit

Meu2k7

Halo 3 7 new weapons with a few removed, or just transformed -

UT 2 different weapons all weapons are very well balanced unlike Halo's - envolves more shooting than nad/melee spam.(l2 spell btw, what does UT2** have? endless shock spamming that's been the same since UT99?)

Halo 3 Multiplayer - 2 new gametypes that ALREADY existed in UT3 OH MY(since when did UT have VIP and revamped territories?)~! MAtchmaking? both will have that, clans? UT has it, Stats? Well we are unsure but UT2004 had stats no doubt this will expand on it aswell, Bubble Shield and Power Draining? 007 GOLDENEYE (the newer crappy one) ....

UT3 Multiplayer - 24 players (console) up to 48 (PC) - Excellent beutiful well adjusted maps, most gamemodes, some incredible viechles (Lethiathan anyone)? Greatly balanced weapons, fast paced, Stats, MAtchmaking, TOURMENTS (Halo 3 will have crappy unrecoreded ones)(tourments? u mean tournaments i think? what tournaments does UT3 have?) Excellent Map/Mod community, and better net coding than Failo...

Crysis ... I dont expect the multiplayer to be great, but it has so much Halo doesnt, .... but but teh console noobish gameplay(I dont see and UT3/UT2k4 players being signed to a million dollar contract by a professional league) :cry: ... Halo is outdated

[QUOTE="smokeydabear076"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="smokeydabear076"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]

[QUOTE="smokeydabear076"]I think the ability to create my own map on UT3 is superior to any feature Halo 3 has to offer.Dreams-Visions

the only question is...will your map SUCK or not. chances are it will. one thing I hate playing in UT2004 is bad user-created maps. they lack...polish.

Guess you missed the point entirely. I'm not trying to force Halo 3 on anyone. maybe you need to scroll up and read again which game I'm looking forward to. I'm handling your point in a vaccum. the only question is whether your map will SUCK or not. I'd rather play 10 amazing maps than 30 mediocre maps.

there are pros and cons to user-created maps. Personally, I'd like to see a separation in the maps. I think UT3 should have a section for playing user-created maps....and a section for only Epic-approved maps.

no.

In my opinion most of the USER CREATED maps in the UT series are mediocre. Pretty big difference. And yea, if you've found the majority of user-created UT maps to be great...yea, we disagree.

^

very good, then.  see you online.  UT3 FTW.

I hate twitch gameplay so I'll go with Halo 3.project343

A valid concern, but UT3 on the PS3/360 isn't going to be that fast.  They're customizing it and slowing it down enough so that console controllers can handle the gameplay.  Though it will probably still be faster than Halo 3 :) 

[QUOTE="-The-G-Man-"]

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]If UT3 is going to be as fast as UT2004 then UT3 will easily beat Halo 3 in terms of gameplay. I cannot stand the slow moving gameplay of Halo. Just my opinion.Meu2k7

Ugh, I know what you mean.

Timesplitters and Unreal Tournent ... 2 best fast paced Multiplayer FPS's :D 

HELLYEAH.

[QUOTE="Meu2k7"][QUOTE="-The-G-Man-"]

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]If UT3 is going to be as fast as UT2004 then UT3 will easily beat Halo 3 in terms of gameplay. I cannot stand the slow moving gameplay of Halo. Just my opinion.-The-G-Man-

Ugh, I know what you mean.

Timesplitters and Unreal Tournent ... 2 best fast paced Multiplayer FPS's :D

HELLYEAH.

I miss timesplitters.  I miss playing the first two in the series. 

[QUOTE="verbalfilth"]

Why would you even compare the two?

Unreal Tournament is just untouchable when it comes to online multiplayer....especially the speed. XD

Dreams-Visions

again, making speed the determining factor...that is simpy a matter of preference. both games feel right after an adjustment period. you really get used to both...if you want to get used to both.

This whole thread is about preference. Wtf is your point? Find a new bullet point to hammer on.

If UT3 is going to be as fast as UT2004 then UT3 will easily beat Halo 3 in terms of gameplay. I cannot stand the slow moving gameplay of Halo. Just my opinion.foxhound_fox

H2 beat out UT2K4 in many sources for Multiplayer GOTY. Halo 3 will easily do the same. I own UT2K4, and with its super fast gameplay and very shallow depth, its too easy to get bored of. Jump, run, shoot everywhere until someone dies, or grab the flag, run and jump to your base hoping not to get shot. Its really very simple and hardly any strategy or skill is involved

[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="verbalfilth"]

Why would you even compare the two?

Unreal Tournament is just untouchable when it comes to online multiplayer....especially the speed. XD

D_Znuhtz

again, making speed the determining factor...that is simpy a matter of preference. both games feel right after an adjustment period. you really get used to both...if you want to get used to both.

This whole thread is about preference. Wtf is your point? Find a new bullet point to hammer on.

people often attempt to pass off preference as fact.  or hadn't you noticed.  example:

"Unreal Tournament is just untouchable" - opinion, presented as fact.

Had he said "in my opinion", that would have been fair.  But as you can see, he didn't present it like that.

But you get an "C" for effort.  Better than nothing. 

Well, both games are going to be incredible online and its really going to depend on personal preference.

They both have online co-op as well, correct? (I know Halo 3 hasn't announced it yet, but its safe to assume so...)

I'm going to say Halo 3 because Halo 2 lasted me 2 years straight (playing almost every day) while Unreal Tournament 2004 I play every now and then.

A valid concern, but UT3 on the PS3/360 isn't going to be that fast. They're customizing it and slowing it down enough so that console controllers can handle the gameplay. Though it will probably still be faster than Halo 3 :)

NocturnalDemon

It's still going to be a bare-boned frag-fest when compared to Halo 3. A lot of what makes UT so great is available exclusively on the PC, and I'm simply not a fan of its design. Take it for what you want, but Unreal Championship 2 suits my preferred gameplay styl3 more then the traditional Unreal Tournament games. I simply enjoy the slower pace, and the additional level of depth that comes from the special abilities, and melee attacks. The constant state of chaos is also something which I dislike about Unreal as a whole, I prefer varied levels of intensity/pace/drama to mix up the flavor when I play games.

With that being said, I'm not a particular fan of Halo. While the series has a decent level of depth, it certainly doesn't have the level of depth that I search for. My ideal upcoming multiplayer experience would either be Team Fortress 2, or Quake Wars, as they offer many unique experiences which can vary up the gameplay while having a level of deep teamplay elements to keep my other request satisfied. Plus I'm not a man of direct action, as I have a fairly low attention span (thus constant chaos and gunfire can render me bored after a little while). From what I've seen, both titles offer cl@sses which aren't designed around a combat role (such as their respective engineers and medics).

In case you were wondering, Gamespot isn't allowing me to post cl@ss or styl3.

UT3 on PC > UT3 on consoles/Halo 3 by a longshot in terms of multiplayer. I'm betting that UT3 will provide the best mutliplayer experience this year.MTBare

absolutely.  and the debate will be a long-lasting one if both games deliver as expected.   

[QUOTE="MTBare"]UT3 on PC > UT3 on consoles/Halo 3 by a longshot in terms of multiplayer. I'm betting that UT3 will provide the best mutliplayer experience this year.Dreams-Visions

absolutely. and the debate will be a long-lasting one if both games deliver as expected.

Yep, there's going to be a hell of a lot of "halo 3/UT3 is the most overrated game.." crap over and over again. 

UT3 on PC > UT3 on consoles/Halo 3 by a longshot in terms of multiplayer. I'm betting that UT3 will provide the best mutliplayer experience this year.MTBare

Im glad to see that you've had the chance to play both. Im judging off of games that ive already played in the past, so:

Halo 2 >>> UT2K4

So that means: Halo 3 >>> UT2K7

Dont say that a game is going to be better than another when both arnt even out yet. Thats being biased

Halo 3. I've really liked past UT games, but I enjoy Halo's style of play a little more. I prefer the slower pace, and I think the weapons and vehicles are a lot more balanced. Everything feels just right. Some of UT's weapons are too over the top, and just plain not enjoyable. Gamer556

yea i like to see where my shots go, not just simply hold the left mouse button down and spray everything in sight while im strafe-jumping like crazy hoping not to get hit

For veriaty in gameplay alone UT07.

But as far as my opinion goes, every thing oriented with a game that you could posibly fathum is supirior in UT in contrast.

[QUOTE="MTBare"]UT3 on PC > UT3 on consoles/Halo 3 by a longshot in terms of multiplayer. I'm betting that UT3 will provide the best mutliplayer experience this year.krp008

Im glad to see that you've had the chance to play both. Im judging off of games that ive already played in the past, so:

Halo 2 >>> UT2K4

So that means: Halo 3 >>> UT2K7

Dont say that a game is going to be better than another when both arnt even out yet. Thats being biased

WTF?! Is that some sort of joke? So you automatically assume that I didn't base my opinion off UT04 and halo 2? Actually that's exactly what I did. And IMO UT04 > halo 2. I actually thought halo 2 was a huge dissapointment.

So UT04 >>> Halo 2

So that means: UT3 >>> halo 3

Don't try to be a smart ass. 

My bet is that most of the people who voted UT3 have never even played a UT game and are just voting for UT because they hate Halo.DA_B0MB

You would be correct.

[QUOTE="MTBare"]UT3 on PC > UT3 on consoles/Halo 3 by a longshot in terms of multiplayer. I'm betting that UT3 will provide the best mutliplayer experience this year.krp008

Im glad to see that you've had the chance to play both. Im judging off of games that ive already played in the past, so:

Halo 2 >>> UT2K4

So that means: Halo 3 >>> UT2K7

Dont say that a game is going to be better than another when both arnt even out yet. Thats being biased

hold up there, big fella.  UT2004 is easily just as good as Halo 2 and better in many respects.  and consider that UT2004 got the same score as Halo 2 *without* having a meaningful SP campaign.  Speaks to the greatness of the UT devs.

But to the letter of the law, Halo 2 did win multiplayer game of the year over UT2004. (someone was going to say it). 

[QUOTE="DA_B0MB"]My bet is that most of the people who voted UT3 have never even played a UT game and are just voting for UT because they hate Halo.Gamer556

You would be correct.

Because you can see into the hearts and souls of the voters, yes? :roll: 

[QUOTE="Gamer556"]

[QUOTE="DA_B0MB"]My bet is that most of the people who voted UT3 have never even played a UT game and are just voting for UT because they hate Halo.dgsag

You would be correct.

Because you can see into the hearts and souls of the voters, yes? :roll:

Remember the forum you're posting in. :|

idk

Halo2 and UT2004 were VERY FUN to play.

I played both for some time,  but I found myself playing Halo2 more.

As for Halo3 vs UT3.. I can see myself playing Halo 3 more,  but I may play UT3 more. Idk, we'll see. 

[QUOTE="DA_B0MB"]My bet is that most of the people who voted UT3 have never even played a UT game and are just voting for UT because they hate Halo.Gamer556

You would be correct.

Looking at how active both communities are and the ratio of the poll, that's the biggest load I've heard all day.

stop being so insecure it hurts your own cause.

[QUOTE="D_Znuhtz"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="verbalfilth"]

Why would you even compare the two?

Unreal Tournament is just untouchable when it comes to online multiplayer....especially the speed. XD

Dreams-Visions

again, making speed the determining factor...that is simpy a matter of preference. both games feel right after an adjustment period. you really get used to both...if you want to get used to both.

This whole thread is about preference. Wtf is your point? Find a new bullet point to hammer on.

people often attempt to pass off preference as fact. or hadn't you noticed. example:

"Unreal Tournament is just untouchable" - opinion, presented as fact.

Had he said "in my opinion", that would have been fair. But as you can see, he didn't present it like that.

But you get an "C" for effort. Better than nothing.

This whole thread is ALL BASED ON OPINION. It is a game vs game thread, which means its PURELY BASED ON OPINIONS. Do you think somewhere down the line Halo 3 and UT 3 will step into the squared circle to decide once and for all who the champion is? IT WILL ALWAYS BE OPINIONS, IT WILL ALWAYS BE PREFERENCE. He said he prefers fast games, so he likes UT3. Someone else prefers slow games, so they prefer Halo. It is all a matter of preference. Nowhere did anyone say that something being "untouchable" is a fact :lol: He obviously doesn't have to say "in my opinion" because the whole bloody thread is about opinion. 

You get an F for effort, since we're keeping score.  

[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="D_Znuhtz"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="verbalfilth"]

Why would you even compare the two?

Unreal Tournament is just untouchable when it comes to online multiplayer....especially the speed. XD

D_Znuhtz

again, making speed the determining factor...that is simpy a matter of preference. both games feel right after an adjustment period. you really get used to both...if you want to get used to both.

This whole thread is about preference. Wtf is your point? Find a new bullet point to hammer on.

people often attempt to pass off preference as fact. or hadn't you noticed. example:

"Unreal Tournament is just untouchable" - opinion, presented as fact.

Had he said "in my opinion", that would have been fair. But as you can see, he didn't present it like that.

But you get an "C" for effort. Better than nothing.

This whole thread is ALL BASED ON OPINION. It is a game vs game thread, which means its PURELY BASED ON OPINIONS. Do you think somewhere down the line Halo 3 and UT 3 will step into the squared circle to decide once and for all who the champion is? IT WILL ALWAYS BE OPINIONS, IT WILL ALWAYS BE PREFERENCE. He said he prefers fast games, so he likes UT3. Someone else prefers slow games, so they prefer Halo. It is all a matter of preference. Nowhere did anyone say that something being "untouchable" is a fact :lol: He obviously doesn't have to say "in my opinion" because the whole bloody thread is about opinion.

You get an F for effort, since we're keeping score.