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#101 Dreams-Visions
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[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="D_Znuhtz"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="verbalfilth"]

Why would you even compare the two?

Unreal Tournament is just untouchable when it comes to online multiplayer....especially the speed. XD

D_Znuhtz

again, making speed the determining factor...that is simpy a matter of preference. both games feel right after an adjustment period. you really get used to both...if you want to get used to both.

This whole thread is about preference. Wtf is your point? Find a new bullet point to hammer on.

people often attempt to pass off preference as fact. or hadn't you noticed. example:

"Unreal Tournament is just untouchable" - opinion, presented as fact.

Had he said "in my opinion", that would have been fair. But as you can see, he didn't present it like that.

But you get an "C" for effort. Better than nothing.

This whole thread is ALL BASED ON OPINION. It is a game vs game thread, which means its PURELY BASED ON OPINIONS. Do you think somewhere down the line Halo 3 and UT 3 will step into the squared circle to decide once and for all who the champion is? IT WILL ALWAYS BE OPINIONS, IT WILL ALWAYS BE PREFERENCE. He said he prefers fast games, so he likes UT3. Someone else prefers slow games, so they prefer Halo. It is all a matter of preference. Nowhere did anyone say that something being "untouchable" is a fact :lol: He obviously doesn't have to say "in my opinion" because the whole bloody thread is about opinion.

You get an F for effort, since we're keeping score.

:lol: whatever makes you feel better.  everything here is not always opinion, nor is it always fact.  if you don't premise or end your statements by stating it's your opinion, then it is perceived that you're stating a fact.  Stating that UT is faster is a fact.  stating that it's better because of it is an opinion.

Your grade is now a D, as you fail to comprehend that we deal in both facts and opinions, and even in his statement there were absoltue facts mixed with pure opinions...yet all was presented as fact.

Try again. 

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#102 360_Degrees
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[QUOTE="DA_B0MB"]My bet is that most of the people who voted UT3 have never even played a UT game and are just voting for UT because they hate Halo.dgsag

You would be correct.

Because you can see into the hearts and souls of the voters, yes? :roll:

 

Hermits vote UT.

Lemming votes Halo.

Cows hate lemmings, and hermits are fairly neutral. So they vote UT.

Sheep are on the fenc.e

 

Therefore, UT should win in a vote in System Wars. 

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#103 Gamer556
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[QUOTE="DA_B0MB"]My bet is that most of the people who voted UT3 have never even played a UT game and are just voting for UT because they hate Halo.dgsag

You would be correct.

Because you can see into the hearts and souls of the voters, yes? :roll: 

We're in System Wars here. This is Halo hating central, and the majority of people here do not play PC games. I'd bet half of UT3's votes are from cows and sheep, most of which have never played an UT game before.

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#104 Gnr_Helsing
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I didn't enjoy UT2k4 online, I had more fun with Halo 2! So I'm choosing Halo 3!
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#105 Dreams-Visions
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I too prefer the speed of UT to the speed of Halo.smokeydabear076

and nobody said anything is wrong with that.  it only becomes controversial when you (or someone else) changes the statement to suggest that it's a homogenous fact instaed of your preference.  when you, it becomes a point of conversation.  a point of debate.

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#106 Wahoo2k
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I'd say UT3 for me

for one thing, it's moddable, the number of gameplay modes is always great, bigger and mroe powerful weapons, and faster paced action.

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#107 NocturnalDemon
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Where the crap is Kev_Unreal when we need him?
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#108 D_Znuhtz
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[QUOTE="D_Znuhtz"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="D_Znuhtz"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="verbalfilth"]

Why would you even compare the two?

Unreal Tournament is just untouchable when it comes to online multiplayer....especially the speed. XD

smokeydabear076

again, making speed the determining factor...that is simpy a matter of preference. both games feel right after an adjustment period. you really get used to both...if you want to get used to both.

This whole thread is about preference. Wtf is your point? Find a new bullet point to hammer on.

people often attempt to pass off preference as fact. or hadn't you noticed. example:

"Unreal Tournament is just untouchable" - opinion, presented as fact.

Had he said "in my opinion", that would have been fair. But as you can see, he didn't present it like that.

But you get an "C" for effort. Better than nothing.

This whole thread is ALL BASED ON OPINION. It is a game vs game thread, which means its PURELY BASED ON OPINIONS. Do you think somewhere down the line Halo 3 and UT 3 will step into the squared circle to decide once and for all who the champion is? IT WILL ALWAYS BE OPINIONS, IT WILL ALWAYS BE PREFERENCE. He said he prefers fast games, so he likes UT3. Someone else prefers slow games, so they prefer Halo. It is all a matter of preference. Nowhere did anyone say that something being "untouchable" is a fact :lol: He obviously doesn't have to say "in my opinion" because the whole bloody thread is about opinion.

You get an F for effort, since we're keeping score.

I too prefer the speed of UT to the speed of Halo.

Bu bu but thats just your preference! We're obviously talking about facts when we state whether something is "better" than something else :lol: 

I have no idea what point he was trying to make. BETTER is purely determined by preference. End of story.

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#109 smokeydabear076
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[QUOTE="smokeydabear076"]I too prefer the speed of UT to the speed of Halo.Dreams-Visions

and nobody said anything is wrong with that. it only becomes controversial when you (or someone else) changes the statement to suggest that it's a homogenous fact instaed of your preference. when you, it becomes a point of conversation. a point of debate.

The speed of UT makes it better than Halo. Now you are going to perceive that statement as a fact, but you should know that it is my opinion because you already know that it is not a fact and therefore telling me that it is my opinion and not a fact would be a complete waste of time.
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#110 D_Znuhtz
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[QUOTE="D_Znuhtz"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="D_Znuhtz"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="verbalfilth"]

Why would you even compare the two?

Unreal Tournament is just untouchable when it comes to online multiplayer....especially the speed. XD

Dreams-Visions

again, making speed the determining factor...that is simpy a matter of preference. both games feel right after an adjustment period. you really get used to both...if you want to get used to both.

This whole thread is about preference. Wtf is your point? Find a new bullet point to hammer on.

people often attempt to pass off preference as fact. or hadn't you noticed. example:

"Unreal Tournament is just untouchable" - opinion, presented as fact.

Had he said "in my opinion", that would have been fair. But as you can see, he didn't present it like that.

But you get an "C" for effort. Better than nothing.

This whole thread is ALL BASED ON OPINION. It is a game vs game thread, which means its PURELY BASED ON OPINIONS. Do you think somewhere down the line Halo 3 and UT 3 will step into the squared circle to decide once and for all who the champion is? IT WILL ALWAYS BE OPINIONS, IT WILL ALWAYS BE PREFERENCE. He said he prefers fast games, so he likes UT3. Someone else prefers slow games, so they prefer Halo. It is all a matter of preference. Nowhere did anyone say that something being "untouchable" is a fact :lol: He obviously doesn't have to say "in my opinion" because the whole bloody thread is about opinion.

You get an F for effort, since we're keeping score.

:lol: whatever makes you feel better. everything here is not always opinion, nor is it always fact. if you don't premise or end your statements by stating it's your opinion, then it is perceived that you're stating a fact. Stating that UT is faster is a fact. stating that it's better because of it is an opinion.

Your grade is now a D, as you fail to comprehend that we deal in both facts and opinions, and even in his statement there were absoltue facts mixed with pure opinions...yet all was presented as fact.

Try again.

:lol:

This whole thread, as I've said, is about preference. Which do you prefer, UT3 or Halo 3. There are no FACTS involved when you state a preference, and he sure as hell does not have to qualify his statements with "in my opinion" because it is, as I've said 10 times now, ALL A MATTER OF OPINION. Stating that UT3 is faster is a fact. Stating that he likes it more is his OPINION, as you say, and as I say, THAT'S ALL THAT MATTERS IN THIS THREAD. If, in my opinion, Arby's is better than Subway, do I need to state facts? FACT: THE LETTUCE IS FRESHER! FACT: THE BREAD TASTES BETTER! No. No. It's ALL a matter of opinion, and no amount of nitpickery or hair-splitting changes that.

We don't "deal in facts" when we're stating opinions. If you seriously think someone saying something is "untouchable" is supposed to be a fact, then wow... :lol:

Keep grading me, I won't bother, you failed with your last post and this Re-do doesn't help your cause.  

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#111 Dreams-Visions
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[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]

[QUOTE="smokeydabear076"]I too prefer the speed of UT to the speed of Halo.smokeydabear076

and nobody said anything is wrong with that. it only becomes controversial when you (or someone else) changes the statement to suggest that it's a homogenous fact instaed of your preference. when you, it becomes a point of conversation. a point of debate.

The speed of UT makes it better than Halo. Now you are going to perceive that statement as a fact, but you should know that it is my opinion because you already know that it is not a fact and therefore telling me that it is my opinion and not a fact would be a complete waste of time.

you've already made it clear in your first statement in this quote chain that it's your opinion, so why would I perceive it to be a fact now? :| 

come on now...you can do better than that. 

 

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#112 D_Znuhtz
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[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]

[QUOTE="smokeydabear076"]I too prefer the speed of UT to the speed of Halo.smokeydabear076

and nobody said anything is wrong with that. it only becomes controversial when you (or someone else) changes the statement to suggest that it's a homogenous fact instaed of your preference. when you, it becomes a point of conversation. a point of debate.

The speed of UT makes it better than Halo. Now you are going to perceive that statement as a fact, but you should know that it is my opinion because you already know that it is not a fact and therefore telling me that it is my opinion and not a fact would be a complete waste of time.

Thank you. I thought I was taking crazy pills. Now to wait for his next bu bu argument. 

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#113 Dreams-Visions
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[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="D_Znuhtz"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="D_Znuhtz"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="verbalfilth"]

Why would you even compare the two?

Unreal Tournament is just untouchable when it comes to online multiplayer....especially the speed. XD

D_Znuhtz

again, making speed the determining factor...that is simpy a matter of preference. both games feel right after an adjustment period. you really get used to both...if you want to get used to both.

This whole thread is about preference. Wtf is your point? Find a new bullet point to hammer on.

people often attempt to pass off preference as fact. or hadn't you noticed. example:

"Unreal Tournament is just untouchable" - opinion, presented as fact.

Had he said "in my opinion", that would have been fair. But as you can see, he didn't present it like that.

But you get an "C" for effort. Better than nothing.

This whole thread is ALL BASED ON OPINION. It is a game vs game thread, which means its PURELY BASED ON OPINIONS. Do you think somewhere down the line Halo 3 and UT 3 will step into the squared circle to decide once and for all who the champion is? IT WILL ALWAYS BE OPINIONS, IT WILL ALWAYS BE PREFERENCE. He said he prefers fast games, so he likes UT3. Someone else prefers slow games, so they prefer Halo. It is all a matter of preference. Nowhere did anyone say that something being "untouchable" is a fact :lol: He obviously doesn't have to say "in my opinion" because the whole bloody thread is about opinion.

You get an F for effort, since we're keeping score.

:lol: whatever makes you feel better. everything here is not always opinion, nor is it always fact. if you don't premise or end your statements by stating it's your opinion, then it is perceived that you're stating a fact. Stating that UT is faster is a fact. stating that it's better because of it is an opinion.

Your grade is now a D, as you fail to comprehend that we deal in both facts and opinions, and even in his statement there were absoltue facts mixed with pure opinions...yet all was presented as fact.

Try again.

:lol:

This whole thread, as I've said, is about preference. Which do you prefer, UT3 or Halo 3. There are no FACTS involved when you state a preference, and he sure as hell does not have to qualify his statements with "in my opinion" because it is, as I've said 10 times now, ALL A MATTER OF OPINION. Stating that UT3 is faster is a fact. Stating that he likes it more is his OPINION, as you say, and as I say, THAT'S ALL THAT MATTERS IN THIS THREAD. If, in my opinion, Arby's is better than Subway, do I need to state facts? FACT: THE LETTUCE IS FRESHER! FACT: THE BREAD TASTES BETTER! No. No. It's ALL a matter of opinion, and no amount of nitpickery or hair-splitting changes that.

We don't "deal in facts" when we're stating opinions. If you seriously think someone saying something is "untouchable" is supposed to be a fact, then wow... :lol:

Keep grading me, I won't bother, you failed with your last post and this Re-do doesn't help your cause.

Also, Wendy's is better than McDonalds.  look how fun this is!

Unless you're new to system wars, we discuss and debate.  in the end, if you don't want to discuss and debate, don't come to System Wars.  Fair?  If you want to analyze the nature of discussions and philosphical advantages and disadvantages of debates, there are other forums for that. 

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#114 Dreams-Visions
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[QUOTE="smokeydabear076"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]

[QUOTE="smokeydabear076"]I too prefer the speed of UT to the speed of Halo.D_Znuhtz

and nobody said anything is wrong with that. it only becomes controversial when you (or someone else) changes the statement to suggest that it's a homogenous fact instaed of your preference. when you, it becomes a point of conversation. a point of debate.

The speed of UT makes it better than Halo. Now you are going to perceive that statement as a fact, but you should know that it is my opinion because you already know that it is not a fact and therefore telling me that it is my opinion and not a fact would be a complete waste of time.

Thank you. I thought I was taking crazy pills. Now to wait for his next bu bu argument.

No you were correct.  You are taking crazy pills.  :lol: 

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#115 organic_machine
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Halo 3 should be fun. But, I'd take UT over Halo anyday. Personally, Quake Wars looks amazing.
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#116 Dreams-Visions
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Halo 3 should be fun. But, I'd take UT over Halo anyday. Personally, Quake Wars looks amazing. organic_machine

I think people are forgetting about Quake Wars...but it's not unearned.  The last Quake game flopped.  I've not seen a UT or Halo game flop, nor does it even seem to be a possibility.  My lord, I do love UT instagib matches.  I think I'm gonna play some rounds right now :D

 later.

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#117 smokeydabear076
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[QUOTE="smokeydabear076"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]

[QUOTE="smokeydabear076"]I too prefer the speed of UT to the speed of Halo.Dreams-Visions

and nobody said anything is wrong with that. it only becomes controversial when you (or someone else) changes the statement to suggest that it's a homogenous fact instaed of your preference. when you, it becomes a point of conversation. a point of debate.

The speed of UT makes it better than Halo. Now you are going to perceive that statement as a fact, but you should know that it is my opinion because you already know that it is not a fact and therefore telling me that it is my opinion and not a fact would be a complete waste of time.

you've already made it clear in your first statement in this quote chain that it's your opinion, so why would I perceive it to be a fact now? :|

come on now...you can do better than that.

 

Just pointing out that if I had worded it that way you would have felt the need to inform me that my opinion is my opinion and not neccesarly a fact just like you did with someone else.
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#118 D_Znuhtz
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[QUOTE="D_Znuhtz"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="D_Znuhtz"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="D_Znuhtz"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="verbalfilth"]

Why would you even compare the two?

Unreal Tournament is just untouchable when it comes to online multiplayer....especially the speed. XD

Dreams-Visions

again, making speed the determining factor...that is simpy a matter of preference. both games feel right after an adjustment period. you really get used to both...if you want to get used to both.

This whole thread is about preference. Wtf is your point? Find a new bullet point to hammer on.

people often attempt to pass off preference as fact. or hadn't you noticed. example:

"Unreal Tournament is just untouchable" - opinion, presented as fact.

Had he said "in my opinion", that would have been fair. But as you can see, he didn't present it like that.

But you get an "C" for effort. Better than nothing.

This whole thread is ALL BASED ON OPINION. It is a game vs game thread, which means its PURELY BASED ON OPINIONS. Do you think somewhere down the line Halo 3 and UT 3 will step into the squared circle to decide once and for all who the champion is? IT WILL ALWAYS BE OPINIONS, IT WILL ALWAYS BE PREFERENCE. He said he prefers fast games, so he likes UT3. Someone else prefers slow games, so they prefer Halo. It is all a matter of preference. Nowhere did anyone say that something being "untouchable" is a fact :lol: He obviously doesn't have to say "in my opinion" because the whole bloody thread is about opinion.

You get an F for effort, since we're keeping score.

:lol: whatever makes you feel better. everything here is not always opinion, nor is it always fact. if you don't premise or end your statements by stating it's your opinion, then it is perceived that you're stating a fact. Stating that UT is faster is a fact. stating that it's better because of it is an opinion.

Your grade is now a D, as you fail to comprehend that we deal in both facts and opinions, and even in his statement there were absoltue facts mixed with pure opinions...yet all was presented as fact.

Try again.

:lol:

This whole thread, as I've said, is about preference. Which do you prefer, UT3 or Halo 3. There are no FACTS involved when you state a preference, and he sure as hell does not have to qualify his statements with "in my opinion" because it is, as I've said 10 times now, ALL A MATTER OF OPINION. Stating that UT3 is faster is a fact. Stating that he likes it more is his OPINION, as you say, and as I say, THAT'S ALL THAT MATTERS IN THIS THREAD. If, in my opinion, Arby's is better than Subway, do I need to state facts? FACT: THE LETTUCE IS FRESHER! FACT: THE BREAD TASTES BETTER! No. No. It's ALL a matter of opinion, and no amount of nitpickery or hair-splitting changes that.

We don't "deal in facts" when we're stating opinions. If you seriously think someone saying something is "untouchable" is supposed to be a fact, then wow... :lol:

Keep grading me, I won't bother, you failed with your last post and this Re-do doesn't help your cause.

Also, Wendy's is better than McDonalds. look how fun this is!

Unless you're new to system wars, we discuss and debate. in the end, if you don't want to discuss and debate, don't come to System Wars. Fair? If you want to analyze the nature of discussions and philosphical advantages and disadvantages of debates, there are other forums for that.

So you've realized your argument was totally off the mark, and now you're changing the subject. Nothing else substantial to say? Tell me again how one game being better than another can be a FACT. That part was interesting. 

 

No you were correct. You are taking crazy pills. :lol:

Dreams-Visions

That's what I thought.

Bzzzzzzzt. That's a big fail.  

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[QUOTE="organic_machine"]Halo 3 should be fun. But, I'd take UT over Halo anyday. Personally, Quake Wars looks amazing. Dreams-Visions

I think people are forgetting about Quake Wars...but it's not unearned.  The last Quake game flopped.  I've not seen a UT or Halo game flop, nor does it even seem to be a possibility.  My lord, I do love UT instagib matches.  I think I'm gonna play some rounds right now :D

 later.

Quake 4 was terrible. But ther thing is that its really not based on Quake 4. It's more of a Quake-y remake of Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory. Huge huge difference. I'm not trying to disagree with you or lecture you, I'm trying to make it clear to everyone reading this that this is NOT based on the crap that was Quake 4! G'day!

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[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]

[QUOTE="organic_machine"]Halo 3 should be fun. But, I'd take UT over Halo anyday. Personally, Quake Wars looks amazing. organic_machine

I think people are forgetting about Quake Wars...but it's not unearned. The last Quake game flopped. I've not seen a UT or Halo game flop, nor does it even seem to be a possibility. My lord, I do love UT instagib matches. I think I'm gonna play some rounds right now :D

later.

Quake 4 was terrible. But ther thing is that its really not based on Quake 4. It's more of a Quake-y remake of Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory. Huge huge difference. I'm not trying to disagree with you or lecture you, I'm trying to make it clear to everyone reading this that this is NOT based on the crap that was Quake 4! G'day!

Quake 4 was not made by id Software.  Every Quake title was made by id Software except for Q4. 

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#121 smokeydabear076
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[QUOTE="organic_machine"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]

[QUOTE="organic_machine"]Halo 3 should be fun. But, I'd take UT over Halo anyday. Personally, Quake Wars looks amazing. Uptown

I think people are forgetting about Quake Wars...but it's not unearned. The last Quake game flopped. I've not seen a UT or Halo game flop, nor does it even seem to be a possibility. My lord, I do love UT instagib matches. I think I'm gonna play some rounds right now :D

later.

Quake 4 was terrible. But ther thing is that its really not based on Quake 4. It's more of a Quake-y remake of Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory. Huge huge difference. I'm not trying to disagree with you or lecture you, I'm trying to make it clear to everyone reading this that this is NOT based on the crap that was Quake 4! G'day!

Quake 4 was not made by id Software. Every Quake title was made by id Software except for Q4.

Wasn't it Raven Software?
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[QUOTE="organic_machine"]Halo 3 should be fun. But, I'd take UT over Halo anyday. Personally, Quake Wars looks amazing. Dreams-Visions

I think people are forgetting about Quake Wars...but it's not unearned. The last Quake game flopped. I've not seen a UT or Halo game flop, nor does it even seem to be a possibility. My lord, I do love UT instagib matches. I think I'm gonna play some rounds right now :D

later.

Quake 4 flopped and Quake 3 was defeated by....UT'99.  So, yeah...people have forgotten about the Quakes.  Unfortunate, really since the first two were so awesome.

Dammit you're making me want to play some insta-gib  :lol: 

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[QUOTE="organic_machine"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]

[QUOTE="organic_machine"]Halo 3 should be fun. But, I'd take UT over Halo anyday. Personally, Quake Wars looks amazing. Uptown

I think people are forgetting about Quake Wars...but it's not unearned. The last Quake game flopped. I've not seen a UT or Halo game flop, nor does it even seem to be a possibility. My lord, I do love UT instagib matches. I think I'm gonna play some rounds right now :D

later.

Quake 4 was terrible. But ther thing is that its really not based on Quake 4. It's more of a Quake-y remake of Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory. Huge huge difference. I'm not trying to disagree with you or lecture you, I'm trying to make it clear to everyone reading this that this is NOT based on the crap that was Quake 4! G'day!

Quake 4 was not made by id Software.  Every Quake title was made by id Software except for Q4. 

I know that. But it still was a letdown. Ragardless, Quake Wars should totally rock.

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UT3 of course.

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#125 NocturnalDemon
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[QUOTE="Uptown"][QUOTE="organic_machine"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]

[QUOTE="organic_machine"]Halo 3 should be fun. But, I'd take UT over Halo anyday. Personally, Quake Wars looks amazing. organic_machine

I think people are forgetting about Quake Wars...but it's not unearned. The last Quake game flopped. I've not seen a UT or Halo game flop, nor does it even seem to be a possibility. My lord, I do love UT instagib matches. I think I'm gonna play some rounds right now :D

later.

Quake 4 was terrible. But ther thing is that its really not based on Quake 4. It's more of a Quake-y remake of Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory. Huge huge difference. I'm not trying to disagree with you or lecture you, I'm trying to make it clear to everyone reading this that this is NOT based on the crap that was Quake 4! G'day!

Quake 4 was not made by id Software. Every Quake title was made by id Software except for Q4.

I know that. But it still was a letdown. Ragardless, Quake Wars should totally rock.

What's offered in Quake Wars that's not offered in some way by Halo 3 or UT3? 

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#126 Shadow_Elite192
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UT3 due to modshellsingfan666

 Halo has mods

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#127 organic_machine
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[QUOTE="organic_machine"][QUOTE="Uptown"][QUOTE="organic_machine"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]

[QUOTE="organic_machine"]Halo 3 should be fun. But, I'd take UT over Halo anyday. Personally, Quake Wars looks amazing. NocturnalDemon

I think people are forgetting about Quake Wars...but it's not unearned. The last Quake game flopped. I've not seen a UT or Halo game flop, nor does it even seem to be a possibility. My lord, I do love UT instagib matches. I think I'm gonna play some rounds right now :D

later.

Quake 4 was terrible. But ther thing is that its really not based on Quake 4. It's more of a Quake-y remake of Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory. Huge huge difference. I'm not trying to disagree with you or lecture you, I'm trying to make it clear to everyone reading this that this is NOT based on the crap that was Quake 4! G'day!

Quake 4 was not made by id Software. Every Quake title was made by id Software except for Q4.

I know that. But it still was a letdown. Ragardless, Quake Wars should totally rock.

What's offered in Quake Wars that's not offered in some way by Halo 3 or UT3? 

It all comes down to preference because all three are essentially the same. Except each has it's own little personality. I think I might like Quake Wars the best. I could be wrong. UT3 may rock my world. Maybe even Halo 3 might interest me down the line. Who knows?

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[QUOTE="hellsingfan666"]UT3 due to modsShadow_Elite192

 Halo has mods

nowhere near the amount or the quality of UT3 mods.

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#129 Dreams-Visions
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[QUOTE="NocturnalDemon"][QUOTE="organic_machine"][QUOTE="Uptown"][QUOTE="organic_machine"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]

[QUOTE="organic_machine"]Halo 3 should be fun. But, I'd take UT over Halo anyday. Personally, Quake Wars looks amazing. organic_machine

I think people are forgetting about Quake Wars...but it's not unearned. The last Quake game flopped. I've not seen a UT or Halo game flop, nor does it even seem to be a possibility. My lord, I do love UT instagib matches. I think I'm gonna play some rounds right now :D

later.

Quake 4 was terrible. But ther thing is that its really not based on Quake 4. It's more of a Quake-y remake of Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory. Huge huge difference. I'm not trying to disagree with you or lecture you, I'm trying to make it clear to everyone reading this that this is NOT based on the crap that was Quake 4! G'day!

Quake 4 was not made by id Software. Every Quake title was made by id Software except for Q4.

I know that. But it still was a letdown. Ragardless, Quake Wars should totally rock.

What's offered in Quake Wars that's not offered in some way by Halo 3 or UT3?

It all comes down to preference because all three are essentially the same. Except each has it's own little personality. I think I might like Quake Wars the best. I could be wrong. UT3 may rock my world. Maybe even Halo 3 might interest me down the line. Who knows?

I fully expect both UT3 and Halo 3 to be GODLY :D

can't.wait. 

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#130 Shadow_Elite192
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[QUOTE="Shadow_Elite192"]

[QUOTE="hellsingfan666"]UT3 due to modsorganic_machine

Halo has mods

nowhere near the amount or the quality of UT3 mods.

wth, it has better mods. 

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#131 organic_machine
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[QUOTE="organic_machine"][QUOTE="Shadow_Elite192"]

[QUOTE="hellsingfan666"]UT3 due to modsShadow_Elite192

Halo has mods

nowhere near the amount or the quality of UT3 mods.

wth, it has better mods. 

mmmkay. :roll:

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[QUOTE="Shadow_Elite192"][QUOTE="organic_machine"][QUOTE="Shadow_Elite192"]

[QUOTE="hellsingfan666"]UT3 due to modsorganic_machine

Halo has mods

nowhere near the amount or the quality of UT3 mods.

wth, it has better mods.

mmmkay.

lol

*brabs popcorn, 3D glasses* 

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#133 Shadow_Elite192
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[QUOTE="Shadow_Elite192"][QUOTE="organic_machine"][QUOTE="Shadow_Elite192"]

[QUOTE="hellsingfan666"]UT3 due to modsorganic_machine

Halo has mods

nowhere near the amount or the quality of UT3 mods.

wth, it has better mods.

mmmkay. :roll:

Never die, auto lock on, run fast etc....better then UT. 

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#134 Donkey_Puncher
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They play too differently.  UT is far more fast paced, Halo is slower and has more gameplay mechanics to take advantage of. 

Personally, I thought UT2k4 was a let down and preferred Halo 2's MP far more.  And considering that Gamespot even gave MP GOTY to Halo 2 over UT2k4. 

Who knows, both will be great and I recommend that people stop this d*ck waving contest between the two and just play both of them when they come out.

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#135 organic_machine
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[QUOTE="organic_machine"][QUOTE="Shadow_Elite192"][QUOTE="organic_machine"][QUOTE="Shadow_Elite192"]

[QUOTE="hellsingfan666"]UT3 due to modsShadow_Elite192

Halo has mods

nowhere near the amount or the quality of UT3 mods.

wth, it has better mods.

mmmkay. :roll:

Never die, auto lock on, run fast etc....better then UT. 

A: Those aren't the mods he was referring to.

B: UT3 can have those as well.

C: Those actually would ruin the game.

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[QUOTE="organic_machine"][QUOTE="Shadow_Elite192"][QUOTE="organic_machine"][QUOTE="Shadow_Elite192"]

[QUOTE="hellsingfan666"]UT3 due to modsShadow_Elite192

Halo has mods

nowhere near the amount or the quality of UT3 mods.

wth, it has better mods.

mmmkay. :roll:

Never die, auto lock on, run fast etc....better then UT. 

...I seriously laughed there. Those are cheats, not mods. Mods introduce new maps and gametypes. You refer to cheats, which I despise, because they can take all the value out of a game. >_>
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[QUOTE="Shadow_Elite192"][QUOTE="organic_machine"][QUOTE="Shadow_Elite192"][QUOTE="organic_machine"][QUOTE="Shadow_Elite192"]

[QUOTE="hellsingfan666"]UT3 due to modsPannicAtack

Halo has mods

nowhere near the amount or the quality of UT3 mods.

wth, it has better mods.

mmmkay. :roll:

Never die, auto lock on, run fast etc....better then UT.

...I seriously laughed there. Those are cheats, not mods. Mods introduce new maps and gametypes. You refer to cheats, which I despise, because they can take all the value out of a game. >_>

..wow me too

I had Halo 2 for the Xbox..there are no mods, and I bet Halo 3 won't have any either...

Those all are cheats...lol 

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[QUOTE="organic_machine"][QUOTE="Shadow_Elite192"][QUOTE="organic_machine"][QUOTE="Shadow_Elite192"]

[QUOTE="hellsingfan666"]UT3 due to modsShadow_Elite192

Halo has mods

nowhere near the amount or the quality of UT3 mods.

wth, it has better mods.

mmmkay. :roll:

Never die, auto lock on, run fast etc....better then UT.

Dont forget, everyone has Rockets on that mode where you have to stand in the circle! KING! god those servers made me sick, go in the circle ... get blown up instantly ... fun ... and the ALL SNIPER servers on Halo aswell -.-.-.-.-.- why cant people keep things fair damnit, those stupid 1 gun modes suck badly. (not just common to Halo, but i logged into Halo 1 PC and most of the 50 servers up had 1 gun modes...) 

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#139 NocturnalDemon
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[QUOTE="Shadow_Elite192"][QUOTE="organic_machine"][QUOTE="Shadow_Elite192"][QUOTE="organic_machine"][QUOTE="Shadow_Elite192"]

[QUOTE="hellsingfan666"]UT3 due to modsPannicAtack

Halo has mods

nowhere near the amount or the quality of UT3 mods.

wth, it has better mods.

mmmkay. :roll:

Never die, auto lock on, run fast etc....better then UT.

...I seriously laughed there. Those are cheats, not mods. Mods introduce new maps and gametypes. You refer to cheats, which I despise, because they can take all the value out of a game. >_>

I lol'd there too :lol: 

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Its hard to choose cause there both really good games and also very different. But overall I go with halo 3 since halo overall got me more hooked on it.

Seriously No one can say Unreal Tournamet is better and say halo overated go to gamerankings.com the ratings over there say halo is overall the much better game if you go by ratings.

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#141 PannicAtack
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Its hard to choose cause there both really good games and also very different. But overall I go with halo 3 since halo overall got me more hooked on it.

Seriously No one can say Unreal Tournamet is better and say halo overated go to gamerankings.com the ratings over there say halo is overall the much better game if you go by ratings.

gamer4life85
That's kinda the thing about "overrated." A game can't be considered "overrated" unless it's rated highly. >_>
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#142 hip-hop-cola
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for me (on pc)....im still playing the first unreal with no online(broken)....

and i got bored of halo1 (online) after 2 week....

unreal 3 will be the best for fun... halo is to serious, the weapons are just boring

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#143 F-Minus
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[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]

[QUOTE="organic_machine"]Halo 3 should be fun. But, I'd take UT over Halo anyday. Personally, Quake Wars looks amazing. NocturnalDemon

I think people are forgetting about Quake Wars...but it's not unearned. The last Quake game flopped. I've not seen a UT or Halo game flop, nor does it even seem to be a possibility. My lord, I do love UT instagib matches. I think I'm gonna play some rounds right now :D

later.

Quake 4 flopped and Quake 3 was defeated by....UT'99. So, yeah...people have forgotten about the Quakes. Unfortunate, really since the first two were so awesome.

Dammit you're making me want to play some insta-gib :lol:

Actually it was the other way around in the e-sport department. Quake 3 got played all the way from 1999 to 2006 competitvely supported by the CPL, ESWC and turnaments as such, players who participated got around $5 million in cash (not a single one ofc - spread), while UT was being played majorly in online leagues for peanuts and titles (so did any future UT after 99, except there was one CPL UT2k4 tournament which I think fatal1ty won, an that was it). That being said, Quake 3 was a better game, had more players as UT'99 and still has. However UT'99 was a very nice game, and the best UT to date as most pro UT players will tell you.  

Quake 4 made by Raven is a total disaster tho, altho the multiplayer scene is still alive. Why Quake 4 sucks so bad multiplayer wise is because the Doom 3 engine sucks in that department, it's all shiny and nice presentation, but beyond it it's a very unstable code, which break the game. ID software is trying to fix their mistake, by releasing beta patches and really trying to bring Quake back to life, but I guess Quake 5 will be the only hope.

All in all to this day the Quake community is twice as big as the one of Unreal Tournament. 

But as this is Gamespot (casuals heaven) this probably doesn't really tell you much and you probably think I'm just pretending and spreading false information. 

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Da Unreal!