OnLive = big fail.

So, I was approved for the OnLive founding member program. Basically what this means is that I get the first year of service free and the second year I get for $4.95/month. I signed up today and logged in thinking this could be a little fun.

Here's the deal. The new Prince of Persia game has a $49.99 price point on top of the regular monthly fee. I simply can't believe it! Are they kidding? For regular members they'll have to pay the monthly fee and will still only get a $10 price break. It's just ridiculous.

The service did run fairly well but in a 30-minute span I experienced a video streaming glitch for about 5-seconds. The response time and delay on controls was not bad but I just can't imagine this service really amounting to anything.

While many of us expected this to happen, it's nice to actually get a chance to play the service so I can report with assurance that it's just not worth it in any way.

you pay for the service, thats why the games arent cheaper, but they should be cheaper because its dvdless. but in the next 5 years Onlive should be huge by than

Another major issue is the lack of ownership by the end. As soon as the game is removed from servers, you cannot play it.

this has been known for a long time... that you have to pay additionally for games. if not, OnLive would be amazing, 15 bucks a month for EVERY GAME on ANY COMPUTER? It still certainly has merit, and has onlive gets bigger they can get more and more exclusive deals, but yea, you gotta pay individually for games luls

Better get used to it, this is the future of PC Gaming.

The only thing that caught my attention from OnLive was the ability to rent games for PC. Thats probably the biggest feature since renting PC games from actual retail stores is impossible.

Better get used to it, this is the future of PC Gaming.

EvanTheGamer

That's a bit of a stretch, I wouldn't even call it PC Gaming.

The only thing that caught my attention from OnLive was the ability to rent games for PC. Thats probably the biggest feature since renting PC games from actual retail stores is impossible.

CRUSHER88

Better get used to it, this is the future of PC Gaming.

EvanTheGamer

How is paying for the service a bad thing? You already pay for a console which could be $400. 400/15 = about 26. That means that you could pay the monthly fee of $15 for 26 months (over 2 years) for the price of a console, but then you still have to buy $60 games.... By the time you factor in your second console (after the one you have becomes obsolete due to a new design change), you could have played onlive for 3 or more years for the price of what you pay for the console. The price difference is even more extreme for high end gaming PCs which are usually upgraded every 2-3 years.

I'm not going to get it because i really don't need it, but the hate for it seems to be kind of baseless. The point is that you don't need an expensive ($600 + ) gaming computer to play PC games that look good.

OnLive, to me, is just ahead of it's time. We gamers love our physical gaming media still. With the right price and functionallty though this can and will all change.

Just too too soon.

well, it would be nice if you could buy the games, and not just rent.

The tech is cool, but too expensive at this point

So basically you're complaining about something we all knew.

You're complaining about paying for games on top of having to pay for the service? Did you also complain when you bought your 360, PS3, and or Wii and didn't get access to their entire game libraries for free?General_X

[QUOTE="General_X"]You're complaining about paying for games on top of having to pay for the service? Did you also complain when you bought your 360, PS3, and or Wii and didn't get access to their entire game libraries for free?Screamteam411

How is paying for the service a bad thing? You already pay for a console which could be $400. 400/15 = about 26. That means that you could pay the monthly fee of $15 for 26 months (over 2 years) for the price of a console, but then you still have to buy $60 games.... By the time you factor in your second console (after the one you have becomes obsolete due to a new design change), you could have played onlive for 3 or more years for the price of what you pay for the console. The price difference is even more extreme for high end gaming PCs which are usually upgraded every 2-3 years.

I'm not going to get it because i really don't need it, but the hate for it seems to be kind of baseless. The point is that you don't need an expensive ($600 + ) gaming computer to play PC games that look good.

hoola

I agree. It could be good for some people, depending on what they want and for how long they want it.

@GreenGoblin2099

yep, pretty much. since I hadn't gotten to formally play with it yet I wasn't sure what the actual pricing structure would be. Now that I have, it's all final. :)

Better get used to it, this is the future of PC Gaming.

EvanTheGamer

How is paying for the service a bad thing? You already pay for a console which could be $400. 400/15 = about 26. That means that you could pay the monthly fee of $15 for 26 months (over 2 years) for the price of a console, but then you still have to buy $60 games.... By the time you factor in your second console (after the one you have becomes obsolete due to a new design change), you could have played onlive for 3 or more years for the price of what you pay for the console. The price difference is even more extreme for high end gaming PCs which are usually upgraded every 2-3 years.

I'm not going to get it because i really don't need it, but the hate for it seems to be kind of baseless. The point is that you don't need an expensive ($600 + ) gaming computer to play PC games that look good.

hoola

How much does it cost to buy the game on Onlive, 40-60$? Thats the same price for a console games and you don't own the game when you buy it from Onlive, so when they say you can't play this game anymore then you've just wasted a lot of money or maybe half of them. Not everyone buy a new PC every 2-3 years My PC is around 3-4 years old and I can play most of the new games on High or Very High setting and the games from Onlive doesn't look good anyway. Many people that tried Onlive says that Shoot games doesn't work good on Onlive, but games like Batman work ok. Have you see people that use Ipad with Onlive? You can't play games on Ipad or Iphone. The touchscreen controller doesn't work too well or actually Its really awful. Here a video of Onlive Borderland on Ipad.

Lets see what you need to have to be able to use Onlive:

-15$/month - You need to pay for a service to get a service that let you buy/rente games.

-40-60$/a game - I don't think that they will low the price on these games, but gamestop, Amazone or any game stores will low prices of a game after a few months after release of that game + that you don't own any of the games that you bought from Onlive.

-Fast Internet Speed to play Single Game - Not everyone have fast internet speed and if you don't have one, then you need to upgrade one.

-Be able to pay a big electricity bills

By the time you pay all these then you'll see that buy a computer or a console is alot cheaper.

Use Onlive is just like that woman that rente a PS3 for 2500$ ->Link

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Better get used to it, this is the future of PC Gaming.

x8VXU6

this has been known for a long time... that you have to pay additionally for games. if not, OnLive would be amazing, 15 bucks a month for EVERY GAME on ANY COMPUTER? It still certainly has merit, and has onlive gets bigger they can get more and more exclusive deals, but yea, you gotta pay individually for games luls

MellowMighty

Another major issue is the lack of ownership by the end. As soon as the game is removed from servers, you cannot play it.

lundy86_4

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[QUOTE="EvanTheGamer"]

Better get used to it, this is the future of PC Gaming.

General_X

yup in a few years, it will get better. 5 years the games should be on high settings

How is paying for the service a bad thing? You already pay for a console which could be $400. 400/15 = about 26. That means that you could pay the monthly fee of $15 for 26 months (over 2 years) for the price of a console, but then you still have to buy $60 games.... By the time you factor in your second console (after the one you have becomes obsolete due to a new design change), you could have played onlive for 3 or more years for the price of what you pay for the console. The price difference is even more extreme for high end gaming PCs which are usually upgraded every 2-3 years.

I'm not going to get it because i really don't need it, but the hate for it seems to be kind of baseless. The point is that you don't need an expensive ($600 + ) gaming computer to play PC games that look good.

hoola

I'm looking forward to the tv adapter so I can play crysis on my tv using a controller. Pc games on the big screen and not needing a pc? That's the future of gamingBodyElite

OnLive proved that cloud compute gaming is possible, but it also showed that it's an inferior way to game concerning both price and performance.

If you have a fast internet connection(5mb+) and you got the free year deal, then it might be good for renting a few games.

[QUOTE="hoola"]

How is paying for the service a bad thing? You already pay for a console which could be $400. 400/15 = about 26. That means that you could pay the monthly fee of $15 for 26 months (over 2 years) for the price of a console, but then you still have to buy $60 games.... By the time you factor in your second console (after the one you have becomes obsolete due to a new design change), you could have played onlive for 3 or more years for the price of what you pay for the console. The price difference is even more extreme for high end gaming PCs which are usually upgraded every 2-3 years.

I'm not going to get it because i really don't need it, but the hate for it seems to be kind of baseless. The point is that you don't need an expensive ($600 + ) gaming computer to play PC games that look good.

ianuilliam

The thing is though, the option is there for people to use OnLive's services for a short time if they want, they don't have to stick with it non-stop for 7 years. For example, if someone wanted to play through a few very demanding games but didn't want to shell out the money for the PC hardware needed, OnLive might provide another option. Plus who knows, maybe in time the service will become cheaper.

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

Another major issue is the lack of ownership by the end. As soon as the game is removed from servers, you cannot play it.

Eddie5vs1

It's the ultimate fail. Concept is interesting, however OnLive's approach is disastrous.

Better get used to it, this is the future of PC Gaming.

EvanTheGamer

Not only was the resolution terrible, but the games were running on low graphics settings (like Red Faction). It looked very ugly.

How is paying for the service a bad thing? You already pay for a console which could be $400. 400/15 = about 26. That means that you could pay the monthly fee of $15 for 26 months (over 2 years) for the price of a console, but then you still have to buy $60 games.... By the time you factor in your second console (after the one you have becomes obsolete due to a new design change), you could have played onlive for 3 or more years for the price of what you pay for the console. The price difference is even more extreme for high end gaming PCs which are usually upgraded every 2-3 years.

I'm not going to get it because i really don't need it, but the hate for it seems to be kind of baseless. The point is that you don't need an expensive ($600 + ) gaming computer to play PC games that look good.

hoola

Since when do new consoles come out every 2-3 years? I find the fact that the games are just extended rentals (at best), they should be cheaper. Honestly, this "service" looks like the biggest rip-off in entertainment.

Its alittle too ahead of time and it needs to be changed alittle, countries like Australia..roughly the average household has only 10GBs of download per month ? Alot just dont have the internet that can run and handle it well.

Another major issue is the lack of ownership by the end. As soon as the game is removed from servers, you cannot play it.

lundy86_4

I don't think they're intending to remove games, are they? If they remove games from the service, that is just absurd. -CheeseEater-

i think there should be a service in the future where you pay 30-50 a month and most of the games are free. with premium pay methods offering premium content, like demos, new gamesbefore everyone else, and high profile games before everyone else.

like cable television for video games, with the premium stuff like PPV.

that's better than Onlive in my opinion, but if Onlive is sucessful it'll make it easier for a video game cable t.v. thing.

I think someone should start taking screenshots of Onlive games and I will try to match those screenshots with my own that are actually played on max settings on a PC.

This will truly show the horrible streaming quality.

The only thing worth using this service for is for cheaper gaming, so yeah big fail.tomarlyn

Not actually cheaper with the quality you get and the need for more expensive bandwidth speed and space.

So, I was approved for the OnLive founding member program. Basically what this means is that I get the first year of service free and the second year I get for $4.95/month. I signed up today and logged in thinking this could be a little fun.

Here's the deal. The new Prince of Persia game has a $49.99 price point on top of the regular monthly fee. I simply can't believe it! Are they kidding? For regular members they'll have to pay the monthly fee and will still only get a $10 price break. It's just ridiculous.

The service did run fairly well but in a 30-minute span I experienced a video streaming glitch for about 5-seconds. The response time and delay on controls was not bad but I just can't imagine this service really amounting to anything.

While many of us expected this to happen, it's nice to actually get a chance to play the service so I can report with assurance that it's just not worth it in any way.

TheBatFreak777

Least it defeat Piracy.

OnLive, to me, is just ahead of it's time. We gamers love our physical gaming media still. With the right price and functionallty though this can and will all change.

Just too too soon.

Kori-san

Actually i'm posting my reply about onlive for 2nd time from another topic

There are alot of thinks wrong with onlive

1. Price

$15 a month on top of prices to buy a game

so for 1 year plus 6-8 games like Borderlands comes to about $400-500=Epic fail

Onlive Pricing

Unreal Tournament for instance costs $20 where as on Amazon or from a steam or D2D or Impulse sale you can probably get it for $10 or less.

Let alone the games you buy you buy them for only 3years

2. Library of games

Look at the pricing list i gave. So far there are only 20 games . Compare that list to the games you can easilly find from places like Steam, Gog, Gamersgate, D2D, Impulse and other DD services. Games form the 80's, 90's to every latest release to every niche game that are available for pc gaming. Thousands of great games at your Disposal while you only have a Choice of 20 games

3. Mods

People complaining about Bad Mods usually know little thinks about Pc gaming

Go hereModDB. Every Mod is rated by users and there are alot of comments and a review plus images and usually video of what the mod does

And for people who say Mods are becoming less significant isnt Fallout new Vegas inspired by some Fallout 3 Mods? Go play Fallout 3 vanilla then Install Fook mod and compare them or Vanilla Stalker as opposed to Stalker Complete. Let alone new great games like Zombie Panic for Source engine or the Mechwarrior mod for Crysis. Source engine alone has thousand of available mods many of which are great

4. Graphics

If you think this is on par with even a low end gaming Pc or even Consoles then i dont know what to say to you. It barely looks like decent PS2 games

Onlive Tested

Also i laughed my ass on this

Link

PC gaming is all about personality. When you build your rig, and I know this may sound cheesy, but it's unique to you. It's a hobby which most of us enjoy. Onlive sounds terrible. A small black generic box, which streams worse then console graphics, small library of games, as of now, no ownership which has been stated, no ability to mod the games... There's nothing enticing about it. I can assure you, 1000000%, no PC gamer in their right mind would ditch their rig for Onlive. Console owners maybe, but they're use to receiving subpar gaming experiences. :roll:

PC gaming is all about personality. When you build your rig, and I know this may sound cheesy, but it's unique to you. It's a hobby which most of us enjoy. Onlive sounds terrible. A small black generic box, which streams worse then console graphics, small library of games, as of now, no ownership which has been stated, no ability to mod the games... There's nothing enticing about it. I can assure you, 1000000%, no PC gamer in their right mind would ditch their rig for Onlive. Console owners maybe, but they're use to receiving subpar gaming experiences. :roll:

WhenCicadasCry

What? I've played games like Crysis on high settings and I don't find console gaming to be "subpar" at all.:|