'Only using 30 or 40 per cent of the power of the PS3 right'-Naughty Dog

i know this has been said before along time ago when uncharted came out BUT in this recent interview he has said it again-between this time many have said that ps3 is done and is equal to the 360 meaning they are both near their limit..but again naughty dog says there is nearly 70% untapped power left :o

""That's why we think we're probably only using 30 or 40 per cent of the power of the PS3 right now, and there's this great, untapped potential. All third-party developers can get the Edge libraries for free and are going to be able to use them in their own ways, to get more and more and more out of the PS3 over the years.""

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...how exactly do they measure that?Hewkii

By how many game installs they force you to go through. Guess there was room for at least 2x more.

"The Untapped Power" PS3 sounds more and more like a PC everytime devs talk about it.

Uncharted was good looking. I guess MGS4 tapped that "power" to some extent, graphics completely blew me away, i had previously though Gears was king but things change. hashimgillani1

Uncharted was good looking. I guess MGS4 tapped that "power" to some extent, graphics completely blew me away, i had previously though Gears was king but things change. hashimgillani1

Nice presentation but I dont think the graphics were all that great, even for a console.

Its bollock and you know it

What Kojima did is probably 90 % of power and you will get next 10% over years

[QUOTE="hashimgillani1"]Uncharted was good looking. I guess MGS4 tapped that "power" to some extent, graphics completely blew me away, i had previously though Gears was king but things change. Kez1984

Nice presentation but I dont think the graphics were all that great, even for a console.

Who do they think they are? Freeza?hongkingkong

my exact thoughts when i read it :LOL:

>9000 confirmed

They watch Yu Gi Oh too much

The problem comes fromt he fact that the dev tools they are providing to get more from the PS3 do not do well with the X360. Which means doing a port to the 360 is basically out of the question if you use the "hidden power" of the PS3.

That's why I say it'll never matter how much the 1st party titles show how cool the PS3 graphics can be......the 3rd party devs are going to use a multiplaform graphics engine which has always favored X360. So in the end, hidden potential...probably, and it will stay hidden from 3rd party devs because they won't use Sony's tools to make PS3 exclusives.

The problem comes fromt he fact that the dev tools they are providing to get more from the PS3 do not do well with the X360. Which means doing a port to the 360 is basically out of the question if you use the "hidden power" of the PS3.

That's why I say it'll never matter how much the 1st party titles show how cool the PS3 graphics can be......the 3rd party devs are going to use a multiplaform graphics engine which has always favored X360. So in the end, hidden potential...probably, and it will stay hidden from 3rd party devs because they won't use Sony's tools to make PS3 exclusives.

darthogre

true -but i hope Team ico and Gow3 devs are using it right now..

[QUOTE="darthogre"]

The problem comes fromt he fact that the dev tools they are providing to get more from the PS3 do not do well with the X360. Which means doing a port to the 360 is basically out of the question if you use the "hidden power" of the PS3.

That's why I say it'll never matter how much the 1st party titles show how cool the PS3 graphics can be......the 3rd party devs are going to use a multiplaform graphics engine which has always favored X360. So in the end, hidden potential...probably, and it will stay hidden from 3rd party devs because they won't use Sony's tools to make PS3 exclusives.

Angakua

true -but i hope Team ico and Gow3 devs are using it right now..

yes they probably are using all the up to date tools since they are making exclusive PS3 games. All I'm saying is most games that are going to be released will probably not be using this 30-40% extra power because of the tools they'll be using. In a sense, maybe it was true that X360 does hurt PS3 games because it forces devs to use tools designed for both instead of PS3 exclusively.

Interesting but who cares. It's 1st/2nd party dev BS.Tiefster

This is true, they get paid by Sony to say how the PS3 is the best. Its all BS and especially considering Naughty Dog is a hardcore PS developers throughout the time. Shame on them for lying so much though.

The problem comes fromt he fact that the dev tools they are providing to get more from the PS3 do not do well with the X360. Which means doing a port to the 360 is basically out of the question if you use the "hidden power" of the PS3.

That's why I say it'll never matter how much the 1st party titles show how cool the PS3 graphics can be......the 3rd party devs are going to use a multiplaform graphics engine which has always favored X360. So in the end, hidden potential...probably, and it will stay hidden from 3rd party devs because they won't use Sony's tools to make PS3 exclusives.

darthogre

If they know there is hidden power, why don't they use it?JakeTD21

The current engine isnt utilizing all of the resources efficiently.

If they know there is hidden power, why don't they use it?JakeTD21

Becouse there is no hidden power, its just marketing BS talk to lure the customers. YEar after year the say the same thing until judgement day comes and they fail as they did with the PS2. Also Kojima said in a interview that they maxed out the Cell and PS3 for MGS4, that makes ND liars.

[QUOTE="JakeTD21"]If they know there is hidden power, why don't they use it?IgorVitaly

Becouse there is no hidden power, its just marketing BS talk to lure the customers. YEar after year the say the same thing until judgement day comes and they fail as they did with the PS2. Also Kojima said in a interview that they maxed out the Cell and PS3 for MGS4, that makes ND liars.

This... Kojima stated it himself, fact /THREAD

http://www.psu.com/Kojima-feels-they-underachieved-with-MGS4--a0003439-p0.php

"I remember saying three years ago that we wanted to create something revolutionary, but in reality we couldn't really do that because of the CPU. We're using the Cell engine to its limit."

"When we first showed the game engine at TGS, the staff were really proud and happy. PS3 was a dream machine, y'know, and we were going to work on this and that - and we had so many ideas. But when we actually started developing the game, we realized there were a lot of restrictions and so it turned out how you see it today. The original vision was to go ten steps further, the reality was just one step, which isn't to say we didn't progress."

[QUOTE="JakeTD21"]If they know there is hidden power, why don't they use it?IgorVitaly

Becouse there is no hidden power, its just marketing BS talk to lure the customers. YEar after year the say the same thing until judgement day comes and they fail as they did with the PS2. Also Kojima said in a interview that they maxed out the Cell and PS3 for MGS4, that makes ND liars.

So when is ND going to be able to achieve Perfect Cell form?no_handlebars

Anyone remember the PS2's "hidden power"? :PNinja-Hippo

[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"]Anyone remember the PS2's "hidden power"? :Pjonnyt61

Did you forget how many 1st gen PS2 titles whent from 60fps and more advanced effects to simpler static effects, no volumetric shadowing, no self-shadow and 30fps/very unstable 60fps being more at 30fps? I do.

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[QUOTE="JakeTD21"]If they know there is hidden power, why don't they use it?Indie_Hitman

Becouse there is no hidden power, its just marketing BS talk to lure the customers. YEar after year the say the same thing until judgement day comes and they fail as they did with the PS2. Also Kojima said in a interview that they maxed out the Cell and PS3 for MGS4, that makes ND liars.

So if they can't find it how do they know it's there.

[QUOTE="jonnyt61"][QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"]Anyone remember the PS2's "hidden power"? :PIgorVitaly

Did you forget how many 1st gen PS2 titles whent from 60fps and more advanced effects to simpler static effects, no volumetric shadowing, no self-shadow and 30fps/very unstable 60fps being more at 30fps? I do.

[QUOTE="IgorVitaly"]

[QUOTE="jonnyt61"][QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"]Anyone remember the PS2's "hidden power"? :Pjonnyt61

Did you forget how many 1st gen PS2 titles whent from 60fps and more advanced effects to simpler static effects, no volumetric shadowing, no self-shadow and 30fps/very unstable 60fps being more at 30fps? I do.

Did you forget that 1st/2tth/and soon 3rd gen PS3 games run at 30fps and some at non-HD res like MGS4 aswell as the 60fps games being usntable regarding framerate? ;)

Interesting but who cares. It's 1st/2nd party dev BS.Tiefster

yep

Who do they think they are? Freeza?hongkingkong

It doesn't have final form though. The cell is a FAIL! IT HAS NO FINAL FORM!

Uncharted 2 will be Final Form! :)

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Well, they said they used 30% of the Cell,

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that is the CPU power, not overall power

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well maybe this time they can make a longer game than uncharted. great game but too short.

btw epic said gears 1 only used up 30%.

So when a company states this does that mean they are 70% incompetent?

[QUOTE="Tiefster"]Interesting but who cares. It's 1st/2nd party dev BS.IgorVitaly

This is true, they get paid by Sony to say how the PS3 is the best. Its all BS and especially considering Naughty Dog is a hardcore PS developers throughout the time. Shame on them for lying so much though.

/sarcasm

[QUOTE="JakeTD21"]If they know there is hidden power, why don't they use it?IgorVitaly

Becouse there is no hidden power, its just marketing BS talk to lure the customers. YEar after year the say the same thing until judgement day comes and they fail as they did with the PS2. Also Kojima said in a interview that they maxed out the Cell and PS3 for MGS4, that makes ND liars.

year after year? PS3 is only about 1.5 years old lol. If it's out for 3 years and you still hear this crap, yeah you can offically call BS. Right now, you should give them opportunity to prove what they are saying.