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#1 Zlychop
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CSS with a new user interface, Counter Striker Global Offensive.

People say Activision is bad with their milking of CoD, atleast they had changes which each iteration.

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#2 SKaREO
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Worst Valve game by far. For a company that is so "in touch with the customers" they really are clueless on how to make a competitive game. Thankfully IceFrog is going to save us from casual gaming Hell with DOTA 2 !
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#4 parkurtommo
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And Activision (Call of Duty), Ubisoft (Assasin's Creed), etc.

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#5 Zlychop
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And Activision (Call of Duty), Ubisoft (Assasin's Creed), etc.

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Yes, but Valve is pretty much godlike to hermits and can do no wrong because they created Steam.
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#6 Nanomage
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It´s also a $10 game and the last CS release was in 2004,unlike the yearly $60 CoD games,so it´s not even close to being the same thing.
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#7 Harisemo
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upgraded graphics, new maps etc not bad for £12.

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#8 lostrib
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Well it is only 15 dollars versus 60 for new COD, halo, gears, etc

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#9 Ravensmash
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I'm having a lot of fun with it on 360 though. Also, I'm certainly not someone with a blind love of Valve but I don't think this complaint holds weight. If anything (from other forums) many people think it's changed too much OR is a hell of a lot better than Source.
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#10 deactivated-5cf4b2c19c4ab
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CSS- 2004

CSGO-2012

Activision releases a new COD game yearly. Its been 8 years since CSS released. In regards to the changes..... Its Counter Strike. A large portion of the community is being very vocal because of how much the game changed with CSGO, many think it has changed too much.

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#11 bleehum
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[QUOTE="Ravensmash"] Also, I'm certainly not someone with a blind love of Valve but I don't think this complaint holds weight. If anything (from other forums) many people think it's changed too much OR is a hell of a lot better than Source.

This is correct.
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#12 parkurtommo
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[QUOTE="parkurtommo"]

And Activision (Call of Duty), Ubisoft (Assasin's Creed), etc.

Zlychop
Yes, but Valve is pretty much godlike to hermits and can do no wrong because they created Steam.

True. Honestly though, it's a cheap game with low production value... I don't think anyone expected a full fledged CS.
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#13 Wasdie  Moderator
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It's far more than that. It was a core gameplay change that was built to accommodate fans and put CS on the console. That's why it was only $15. They never said it was supposed to be anything more.

I haven't played it too much, but from what I have I can safely say that it's nothing like CS 1.6 or CSS from a gameplay feel standpoint.

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#14 JohnF111
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[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"]CSS- 2004 CSGO-2012 Activision releases a new COD game yearly. Its been 8 years since CSS released.

Is it 8 years better than CSS though? I think their engine is getting a bit old now.
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#15 BigDaddyPOLO
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CSS with a new user interface, Counter Striker Global Offensive.

People say Activision is bad with their milking of CoD, atleast they had changes which each iteration.

Zlychop

This is so stupid I feel embarrassed for you

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#16 parkurtommo
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[QUOTE="JohnF111"][QUOTE="ferret-gamer"]CSS- 2004 CSGO-2012 Activision releases a new COD game yearly. Its been 8 years since CSS released.

Is it 8 years better than CSS though? I think their engine is getting a bit old now.

It most certainly is... It can still look very good but it doesn't have any of the awesome affects that modern engines have now, which is why they're working on Source 2...
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#18 Zlychop
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[QUOTE="JohnF111"][QUOTE="ferret-gamer"]CSS- 2004 CSGO-2012 Activision releases a new COD game yearly. Its been 8 years since CSS released.

Is it 8 years better than CSS though? I think their engine is getting a bit old now.

There is no reason why the graphics shouldn't be much better, some more advanced physics and destruction (not overdone) would have been good additions as well.
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[QUOTE="Zlychop"][QUOTE="JohnF111"][QUOTE="ferret-gamer"]CSS- 2004 CSGO-2012 Activision releases a new COD game yearly. Its been 8 years since CSS released.

Is it 8 years better than CSS though? I think their engine is getting a bit old now.

There is no reason why the graphics shouldn't be much better, some more advanced physics and destruction (not overdone) would have been good additions as well.

Why would CS have destruction? Heck, why would it need advanced physics?
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#20 Zlychop
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[QUOTE="Ravensmash"][QUOTE="Zlychop"][QUOTE="JohnF111"] Is it 8 years better than CSS though? I think their engine is getting a bit old now.

There is no reason why the graphics shouldn't be much better, some more advanced physics and destruction (not overdone) would have been good additions as well.

Why would CS have destruction? Heck, why would it need advanced physics?

It's called a successor, meaning it should enhance what is already there. Logical enhancements would be more advanced everything than what was possible before.
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#21 slimjimbadboy
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It's true, only Valve could get away with this. I demand they make a yearly release of counter strike plus hundreds of dollars on DLC.

Damn you Valve for releasing counter strike once every gen!

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#22 Ravensmash
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[QUOTE="Zlychop"][QUOTE="Ravensmash"][QUOTE="Zlychop"] There is no reason why the graphics shouldn't be much better, some more advanced physics and destruction (not overdone) would have been good additions as well.

Why would CS have destruction? Heck, why would it need advanced physics?

It's called a successor, meaning it should enhance what is already there. Logical enhancements would be more advanced everything than what was possible before.

CS has a pretty loyal fanbase. CS:GO was meant to appeal to those playing 1.6 and Source, as well as drawing new players to the franchise. Those enhancements are not wanted nor necessary with the franchise.
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#23 lawlessx
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Did valve charge $60 for it? nope
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#24 AcidSoldner
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It's a $15 downloadable game, not a $60 full retail release.
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#25 -Unreal-
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CSS with a new user interface, Counter Striker Global Offensive.

People say Activision is bad with their milking of CoD, atleast they had changes which each iteration.

Zlychop
The price of the game is justifiable.
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#26 speedfog
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New maps, new guns, new modes + cheap price.

CS:GO is worth more then you pay for it.

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#27 wis3boi
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It's a $15 game with new maps and modes, new weapons, completely change the gunplay, a MUCH better UI, good mod support, dedicated servers, ranked and unranked matches, matchmaking, and tools for competitive players. All the CS veterans in-game love the new gunplay. It's well worth the price for a sequel to a game MADE IN 2004.

Another fail thread by zlychop. Try harder next time

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#28 smokingsbad
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More then 6 years since the last CS and less then 15 bucks.... Totally. How bout you focus more on EA milking games.
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#29 Michael0134567
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Sounds good to me.What the hell is with you?

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#30 BPoole96
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My lunch yesterday costed more than this game
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#31 kidcool189
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It's great being able to jump into scrim-like matches in "competetive" mode without having to dick around with irc or esea. And for the most part I enjoy the feel of the guns/registry in GO more so than source and even 1.6.
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#32 finalstar2007
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Well of course, if its CoD its bad but anything else is angelic.

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#33 Zlychop
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Well of course, if its CoD its bad but anything else is angelic.

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Yes, it's pretty sad how things work here.
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#34 parkurtommo
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Well of course, if its CoD its bad but anything else is angelic.

finalstar2007
Angelic? :| Get over yourself. CS GO is 15$, no DLC, the only installment in the series since 2004. Now shut your dirty whore mouth. :x
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#35 k2theswiss
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it was never meant to be new game. it was basically remake. updating everything and releasing it. they selling for like 13 bucks so why would they treat it as full release game? I never liked what i seen from the game so i never spend money on it but that's from what i have seen
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It's a $15 game with new maps and modes, new weapons, completely change the gunplay, a MUCH better UI, good mod support, dedicated servers, ranked and unranked matches, matchmaking, and tools for competitive players. All the CS veterans in-game love the new gunplay. It's well worth the price for a sequel to a game MADE IN 2004.

Another fail thread by zlychop. Try harder next time

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So the reception's been pretty positive? That's good to hear. I know there are always the people who scorn anything after 1.6... or even scorn 1.6 as opposed to 1.5...
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#37 Miroku32
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Well of course, if its CoD its bad but anything else is angelic.

finalstar2007
Please, at least we get a game that actually takes skills, it is cheap ($15) and if Valve releases DLC it will be free. Meanwhile, COD continues to be $60, you have to pay $15 for DLC and the game doesn't take skills.

An idiot can even be the top player on any match.
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#38 finalstar2007
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[QUOTE="finalstar2007"]

Well of course, if its CoD its bad but anything else is angelic.

Miroku32

Please, at least we get a game that actually takes skills, it is cheap ($15) and if Valve releases DLC it will be free. Meanwhile, COD continues to be $60, you have to pay $15 for DLC and the game doesn't take skills.

An idiot can even be the top player on any match.

You dont have to buy the DLC its optional and if you wait you can get the DLC for $7 or less ( they always do sales for their DLC but couple of months after their release ).. as for the game it deserve being $60 because CoD on the disk offers not only online multiplayer ( online mode has over 20 modes ), Spec Ops, Singple Player and zombies not counting theater mode, training mode and so on. cant be serious for wanting all this for $15.

CoD deserve being $60 every year btu again no one forcing anyone to buy it but hey if its CoD its bad and evil :)

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You dont have to buy the DLC its optional and if you wait you can get the DLC for $7 or less ( they always do sales for their DLC but couple of months after their release ).. as for the game it deserve being $60 because CoD on the disk offers not only online multiplayer ( online mode has over 20 modes ), Spec Ops, Singple Player and zombies not counting theater mode, training mode and so on. cant be serious for wanting all this for $15.

CoD deserve being $60 every year btu again no one forcing anyone to buy it but hey if its CoD its bad and evil :)

finalstar2007
For $15 I get not only the classic mode but also 2 new gamemodes plus a casual classic mode but that's not all, we also get zombie mod, zombie escape, surf mod and many other mods. And just for $15.

I rest my case.
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#40 padaporra
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Counter Strike doesn't need changing.

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#41 padaporra
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Counter Strike doesn't need changing.

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#42 finalstar2007
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[QUOTE="finalstar2007"]

You dont have to buy the DLC its optional and if you wait you can get the DLC for $7 or less ( they always do sales for their DLC but couple of months after their release ).. as for the game it deserve being $60 because CoD on the disk offers not only online multiplayer ( online mode has over 20 modes ), Spec Ops, Singple Player and zombies not counting theater mode, training mode and so on. cant be serious for wanting all this for $15.

CoD deserve being $60 every year btu again no one forcing anyone to buy it but hey if its CoD its bad and evil :)

Miroku32

For $15 I get not only the classic mode but also 2 new gamemodes plus a casual classic mode but that's not all, we also get zombie mod, zombie escape, surf mod and many other mods. And just for $15.

I rest my case.

all that in the new counter strike? very nice.. i bought the new counter strike tho for $12 from PSN but havent downloaded it yet due to the internet bandwidth -_-

i hear its just 5 VS 5 tho unlike CoD where u can go beyond that number so just sayin :P.. cant compare this $15 to to a $60 since CoD offers so much more for that $60

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#43 parkurtommo
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[QUOTE="Miroku32"][QUOTE="finalstar2007"]

You dont have to buy the DLC its optional and if you wait you can get the DLC for $7 or less ( they always do sales for their DLC but couple of months after their release ).. as for the game it deserve being $60 because CoD on the disk offers not only online multiplayer ( online mode has over 20 modes ), Spec Ops, Singple Player and zombies not counting theater mode, training mode and so on. cant be serious for wanting all this for $15.

CoD deserve being $60 every year btu again no one forcing anyone to buy it but hey if its CoD its bad and evil :)

finalstar2007

For $15 I get not only the classic mode but also 2 new gamemodes plus a casual classic mode but that's not all, we also get zombie mod, zombie escape, surf mod and many other mods. And just for $15.

I rest my case.

all that in the new counter strike? very nice.. i bought the new counter strike tho for $12 from PSN but havent downloaded it yet due to the internet bandwidth -_-

i hear its just 5 VS 5 tho unlike CoD where u can go beyond that number so just sayin :P.. cant compare this $15 to to a $60 since CoD offers so much more for that $60

On PC you can literally have as many players as you're rig can handle lmao.
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#44 Nanomage
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[QUOTE="Miroku32"][QUOTE="finalstar2007"]

You dont have to buy the DLC its optional and if you wait you can get the DLC for $7 or less ( they always do sales for their DLC but couple of months after their release ).. as for the game it deserve being $60 because CoD on the disk offers not only online multiplayer ( online mode has over 20 modes ), Spec Ops, Singple Player and zombies not counting theater mode, training mode and so on. cant be serious for wanting all this for $15.

CoD deserve being $60 every year btu again no one forcing anyone to buy it but hey if its CoD its bad and evil :)

finalstar2007

For $15 I get not only the classic mode but also 2 new gamemodes plus a casual classic mode but that's not all, we also get zombie mod, zombie escape, surf mod and many other mods. And just for $15.

I rest my case.

all that in the new counter strike? very nice.. i bought the new counter strike tho for $12 from PSN but havent downloaded it yet due to the internet bandwidth -_-

i hear its just 5 VS 5 tho unlike CoD where u can go beyond that number so just sayin :P.. cant compare this $15 to to a $60 since CoD offers so much more for that $60

5v5 is a console limitation,there´s plenty of servers already on the PC with over 30 players.
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#45 finalstar2007
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[QUOTE="finalstar2007"]

[QUOTE="Miroku32"] For $15 I get not only the classic mode but also 2 new gamemodes plus a casual classic mode but that's not all, we also get zombie mod, zombie escape, surf mod and many other mods. And just for $15.

I rest my case. parkurtommo

all that in the new counter strike? very nice.. i bought the new counter strike tho for $12 from PSN but havent downloaded it yet due to the internet bandwidth -_-

i hear its just 5 VS 5 tho unlike CoD where u can go beyond that number so just sayin :P.. cant compare this $15 to to a $60 since CoD offers so much more for that $60

On PC you can literally have as many players as you're rig can handle lmao.

lol.. i blame the lazy devs :x

:P

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#46 parkurtommo
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[QUOTE="parkurtommo"][QUOTE="finalstar2007"]

all that in the new counter strike? very nice.. i bought the new counter strike tho for $12 from PSN but havent downloaded it yet due to the internet bandwidth -_-

i hear its just 5 VS 5 tho unlike CoD where u can go beyond that number so just sayin :P.. cant compare this $15 to to a $60 since CoD offers so much more for that $60

finalstar2007

On PC you can literally have as many players as you're rig can handle lmao.

lol.. i blame the lazy devs :x

:P

You mean console hardware, can't even handle more than 10 players with the source engine (it runs on source right?), probably the easiest engine to run ever. :|
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#47 GhoX
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CSS with a new user interface, Counter Striker Global Offensive.

People say Activision is bad with their milking of CoD, atleast they had changes which each iteration.

Zlychop
The difference is that Activision, Ubisoft, EA, Nintendo etc. release clones at the price of a full game. Valve releases a "map pack" at the price of a map pack.
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#49 DarkGamer007
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Counter-Strike: Global Offensive features updated graphics, new weapons, new maps, new modes, and only costs $15. The last Counter-Strike game released in 2004, since then eight Call of Duty titles each with a price of $60 + downloadable content, Counter-Strike will have free downloadable content like Team Fortress 2, Left 4 Dead, Counter-Strike Source etc., and one Call of Duty title launching this fall for a total of nine Call of Duty games.

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#50 Goyoshi12
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It's a map pack at a map pack price....seems fine to me.