Only Valve could get away with....

I don't have the game myself since I hate counterstrike, but Total Biscuit's videos make it out to be different enough to be worth $15. From what I have saw the game feels more like an expansion instead of a sequel and is priced as such.

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ChubbyGuy40

this thread killed mah dawg! your a horrible person tc

[QUOTE="finalstar2007"]

[QUOTE="Miroku32"] For $15 I get not only the classic mode but also 2 new gamemodes plus a casual classic mode but that's not all, we also get zombie mod, zombie escape, surf mod and many other mods. And just for $15.

I rest my case. Nanomage

all that in the new counter strike? very nice.. i bought the new counter strike tho for $12 from PSN but havent downloaded it yet due to the internet bandwidth -_-

i hear its just 5 VS 5 tho unlike CoD where u can go beyond that number so just sayin :P.. cant compare this $15 to to a $60 since CoD offers so much more for that $60

CoD offers so much more for that $60finalstar2007

[QUOTE="parkurtommo"]

And Activision (Call of Duty), Ubisoft (Assasin's Creed), etc.

Zlychop

Thats nothing major really, but the new steam laws that state Steam is a renting service or w/e (the ones that were made in response to EU laws that let you sell your games) was such a d1ck move that I seriously cant understand how they got away with it so easily... only hermits would defend such d1ckish move

Valve is just as bad as EA and Activision

[QUOTE="Zlychop"][QUOTE="parkurtommo"]

And Activision (Call of Duty), Ubisoft (Assasin's Creed), etc.

4dr1el

Thats nothing major really, but the new steam laws that state Steam is a renting service or w/e (the ones that were made in response to EU laws that let you sell your games) was such a d1ck move that I seriously cant understand how they got away with it so easily... only hermits would defend such d1ckish move

Valve is just as bad as EA and Activision

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ChubbyGuy40

[QUOTE="parkurtommo"]

And Activision (Call of Duty), Ubisoft (Assasin's Creed), etc.

Zlychop

Assumption.

[QUOTE="Zlychop"][QUOTE="parkurtommo"]

And Activision (Call of Duty), Ubisoft (Assasin's Creed), etc.

4dr1el

Thats nothing major really, but the new steam laws that state Steam is a renting service or w/e (the ones that were made in response to EU laws that let you sell your games) was such a d1ck move that I seriously cant understand how they got away with it so easily... only hermits would defend such d1ckish move

Valve is just as bad as EA and Activision

I think that Gabe Newell is the most arrogant in the game company. He thinks he does things for his fans, but he really doesn't. I don't think he is listening to his fans about Half-Life 3's release date.

[QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"]

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SKaREO

I think that Gabe Newell is the most arrogant in the game company. He thinks he does things for his fans, but he really doesn't. I don't think he is listening to his fans about Half-Life 3's release date.

[QUOTE="4dr1el"]

[QUOTE="Zlychop"] Yes, but Valve is pretty much godlike to hermits and can do no wrong because they created Steam.BPoole96

Thats nothing major really, but the new steam laws that state Steam is a renting service or w/e (the ones that were made in response to EU laws that let you sell your games) was such a d1ck move that I seriously cant understand how they got away with it so easily... only hermits would defend such d1ckish move

Valve is just as bad as EA and Activision

Enjoy your rented games that I will enjoy my owned games. I prefer giving $30 for a game and know that I own it and can do anything with it rather then give $5 for a game that I dont legally own and know I can lose it if the seller goes bankrupt...

[QUOTE="BPoole96"][QUOTE="4dr1el"]

Thats nothing major really, but the new steam laws that state Steam is a renting service or w/e (the ones that were made in response to EU laws that let you sell your games) was such a d1ck move that I seriously cant understand how they got away with it so easily... only hermits would defend such d1ckish move

Valve is just as bad as EA and Activision

4dr1el

Enjoy your rented games that I will enjoy my owned games. I prefer giving $30 for a game and know that I own it and can do anything with it rather then give $5 for a game that I dont legally own and know I can lose it if the seller goes bankrupt...

[QUOTE="BPoole96"][QUOTE="4dr1el"]

Thats nothing major really, but the new steam laws that state Steam is a renting service or w/e (the ones that were made in response to EU laws that let you sell your games) was such a d1ck move that I seriously cant understand how they got away with it so easily... only hermits would defend such d1ckish move

Valve is just as bad as EA and Activision

4dr1el

Enjoy your rented games that I will enjoy my owned games. I prefer giving $30 for a game and know that I own it and can do anything with it rather then give $5 for a game that I dont legally own and know I can lose it if the seller goes bankrupt...

I think that Gabe Newell is the most arrogant in the game company. He thinks he does things for his fans, but he really doesn't. I don't think he is listening to his fans about Half-Life 3's release date.

sonic1564

nice ego you got there. Will you be able to fit it through the door when you leave? It looks rather inflated. Hang on, i'll get some grease

[QUOTE="BPoole96"][QUOTE="4dr1el"]

Thats nothing major really, but the new steam laws that state Steam is a renting service or w/e (the ones that were made in response to EU laws that let you sell your games) was such a d1ck move that I seriously cant understand how they got away with it so easily... only hermits would defend such d1ckish move

Valve is just as bad as EA and Activision

4dr1el

Enjoy your rented games that I will enjoy my owned games. I prefer giving $30 for a game and know that I own it and can do anything with it rather then give $5 for a game that I dont legally own and know I can lose it if the seller goes bankrupt...

shut up with all the "rented game" crap, it just makes you sound like a moron.

[QUOTE="4dr1el"]

[QUOTE="BPoole96"] Yes, renting games forever for a quarter of the price they retailer at. Gabe Newell should be tar and feathered... And if you're also referring to them preventing users from making class action lawsuits against them, Sony and MS did the exact same thig earlier this year.BPoole96

Enjoy your rented games that I will enjoy my owned games. I prefer giving $30 for a game and know that I own it and can do anything with it rather then give $5 for a game that I dont legally own and know I can lose it if the seller goes bankrupt...

I can sell it, trade it, lend it. 3 options

Also, I'm pretty sure Atari was pretty big when gaming started... look where they are now... yeah

[QUOTE="BPoole96"][QUOTE="4dr1el"]

Enjoy your rented games that I will enjoy my owned games. I prefer giving $30 for a game and know that I own it and can do anything with it rather then give $5 for a game that I dont legally own and know I can lose it if the seller goes bankrupt...

4dr1el

I can sell it, trade it, lend it. 3 options

Also, I'm pretty sure Atari was pretty big when gaming started... look where they are now... yeah

You cant do a single one of those with PC retail software...

[QUOTE="4dr1el"]

[QUOTE="BPoole96"] And what benefit do you get by owning the physical copy of the game? Being able to sell it? What if you have an urge to go back and play a game you sold? And I don't think we have to worry about Valve going bankrupt anytime soon since their profit margins have been growing on a year to year basis and Gabe Newell is a billionaire because of it.cobrax55

I can sell it, trade it, lend it. 3 options

Also, I'm pretty sure Atari was pretty big when gaming started... look where they are now... yeah

You cant do a single one of those with PC retail software...

uh? I'm pretty sure I can with most. Recently I even lent the 1st Crysis to my neighbour so wtf you're talkin about?

[QUOTE="4dr1el"]

[QUOTE="BPoole96"] Yes, renting games forever for a quarter of the price they retailer at. Gabe Newell should be tar and feathered... And if you're also referring to them preventing users from making class action lawsuits against them, Sony and MS did the exact same thig earlier this year.cobrax55

Enjoy your rented games that I will enjoy my owned games. I prefer giving $30 for a game and know that I own it and can do anything with it rather then give $5 for a game that I dont legally own and know I can lose it if the seller goes bankrupt...

shut up with all the "rented game" crap, it just makes you sound like a moron.

what? Dont like to hear the truth? Steam is just a renting service. Valve said it themselves. No need to be butthurt about it

[QUOTE="cobrax55"]

[QUOTE="4dr1el"]

Enjoy your rented games that I will enjoy my owned games. I prefer giving $30 for a game and know that I own it and can do anything with it rather then give $5 for a game that I dont legally own and know I can lose it if the seller goes bankrupt...

4dr1el

shut up with all the "rented game" crap, it just makes you sound like a moron.

what? Dont like to hear the truth? Steam is just a renting service. Valve said it themselves. No need to be butthurt about it

So Ive been "renting" Half Life 2 since 2004? Seems like kind of a long time to be renting something.

And BTW, look at the EULA at any console software...you may be surprisised at what you see...

[QUOTE="BPoole96"][QUOTE="4dr1el"]

Enjoy your rented games that I will enjoy my owned games. I prefer giving $30 for a game and know that I own it and can do anything with it rather then give $5 for a game that I dont legally own and know I can lose it if the seller goes bankrupt...

4dr1el

I can sell it, trade it, lend it. 3 options

Also, I'm pretty sure Atari was pretty big when gaming started... look where they are now... yeah

I think that Gabe Newell is the most arrogant in the game company. He thinks he does things for his fans, but he really doesn't. I don't think he is listening to his fans about Half-Life 3's release date.

sonic1564

[QUOTE="sonic1564"]

I think that Gabe Newell is the most arrogant in the game company. He thinks he does things for his fans, but he really doesn't. I don't think he is listening to his fans about Half-Life 3's release date.

wis3boi

nice ego you got there. Will you be able to fit it through the door when you leave? It looks rather inflated. Hang on, i'll get some grease

[QUOTE="wis3boi"]

[QUOTE="sonic1564"]

I think that Gabe Newell is the most arrogant in the game company. He thinks he does things for his fans, but he really doesn't. I don't think he is listening to his fans about Half-Life 3's release date.

Zlychop

nice ego you got there. Will you be able to fit it through the door when you leave? It looks rather inflated. Hang on, i'll get some grease

zlychop i think u jelly that you worse than loosingends but trying so hard

The game is tons different. The gameplay FEELS different (Like L4D), the graphics look like L4D, several of the models look like L4D models.

I am kind of disappointed with it. But considering it is $15 and wasn't even developed by Valve, I think it is pretty good. I will certianly get my moneys worth out of it.

So it's the first CS game in 8 years and costs the same price as a CoD map pack.

How is that milking it?

CSS with a new user interface, Counter Striker Global Offensive.

People say Activision is bad with their milking of CoD, atleast they had changes which each iteration.

Zlychop

The game is tons different. The gameplay FEELS different (Like L4D), the graphics look like L4D, several of the models look like L4D models.

I am kind of disappointed with it. But considering it is $15 and wasn't even developed by Valve, I think it is pretty good. I will certianly get my moneys worth out of it.

[QUOTE="Zlychop"]

CSS with a new user interface, Counter Striker Global Offensive.

People say Activision is bad with their milking of CoD, atleast they had changes which each iteration.

Merex760

So, Valve releases a updated CS after EIGHT YEARS with new maps, modes, more weapons, and better graphics, for $15 dollars, yet Activision does the same thing every year for $60 with less new content? Yeah, Valve sure is milking CS. It's not like there have only been 3 iterations in 13 years or anything. Oh....Wait..... Meanwhile Cod started in 2003 and has over 10 games. Get the F*** out with your idiotic logic. I'm no Valve fanboy, hell I HATE Team Fortress, but to say that Valve is milking CS by updating it after 8 years for $15 is appallingly stupid.

Is $15

Has a few new features

New Maps

Updated graphics significantly

Been 8 years since last CS

Will be supported by Valve as always

[QUOTE="finalstar2007"]

Well of course, if its CoD its bad but anything else is angelic.

Zlychop

Personally, I don't care about it, but it's $15, why complain?

Also, it's a Valve game, so it has mod support, right?

And as others pointed out, pubs have gotten away with MUCH worse and more expensive games than this...

IDK about any of that, but I bought it and it's quickly becoming one of my favorite multiplayer games! I like it a lot.

There is no reason why the graphics shouldn't be much better, some more advanced physics and destruction (not overdone) would have been good additions as well.Zlychop

[QUOTE="sonic1564"]

I think that Gabe Newell is the most arrogant in the game company. He thinks he does things for his fans, but he really doesn't. I don't think he is listening to his fans about Half-Life 3's release date.

Zlychop

The last CS game was 8 years ago.

This is an improvment from the last, and its one hell of an improvment, and its cheap. This is not ment to be CS2, but a much needed improvment.

How the **** is releasing a sequal 8 years later, at a budget price with many improvments is milking?

Get away with what? Releasing a new improved CS after 8 years, thats ment to appeal to cs1.6, source and new players?

Its not CS2, even Valve said that, but a much needed improvment. Well worth the money, cheaper than a COD map pack, a much better game than COD, and mods!!

Activision charges 60-70 euro. Valve charged 15 euro...

But valve did same thing, what activision does, with left 4 dead series. Left 4 Dead 2 was basically expansion pack to the first one. I regret paying full price for l4d2, but still good game.

[QUOTE="Ravensmash"][QUOTE="Zlychop"] There is no reason why the graphics shouldn't be much better, some more advanced physics and destruction (not overdone) would have been good additions as well.Zlychop

CS:Go isn't the successor to CS:S or 1.6. Valve has said from the start that this isn't Counter-Strike 2, just another iteration of the same game. Also they listened to the fans when it came to the physics. The physics in CS:S were hated by a lot of the gamers that loved 1.6.

Now I'm not defending CS:GO, because I don't care for the game. When i want to play counter-strike, I play 1.6, always have probably always will.

IMO, this is going to be the last game Valve is going to release on the Source engine. With all of their major titles, they want their successors to be ground-breaking (at least I would). Which is why Valve has said HL3 isn't coming out until 2015 and that they are working on Source 2. This way they can make Counter-Strike 2, HL3, Left4Dead3, Portal 3, etc on their new engine. Which I believe means we won't see another Valve game released until 2015, especially with all the community based projects they are working on.

It´s also a $10 game and the last CS release was in 2004,unlike the yearly $60 CoD games,so it´s not even close to being the same thing.Nanomage

Thats even worse. Theyve had 8 years and this is what theyve come up with.