OOT isn't all that great

[QUOTE="STurn21"]

[QUOTE="g0ddyX"]

Nostalgia is what makes OOT so great and it is godly game for Nintendo fans.

Either way, OOT is not great now compare to what else is out there.

Times changed, people need to move on.

More people play counter strike to OOT, maybe every game should be compared to that instead, forget the score.

CDUB316

Do you guys not understand the concept of an opinion? My God, the arrogance on this thread. People throw around their opinions like they are facts.

yea...and whenever someone says their favorite game is a game from the past...they automatically jump on them and just say it's all nostalgia and it's really not

OOT is an AMAZING game and it hasn't aged AT ALL...the gameplay is still simple, the story is still the same...the only difference between OOT and games today is pretty much the graphics

Fact is, one game is OLD, and one game is NEW.

So much fanboyism around here.

Do you still play OOT all the time?

Everything is good for the moment til the next best thing comes out.

[QUOTE="CDUB316"]

[QUOTE="STurn21"]

Do you guys not understand the concept of an opinion? My God, the arrogance on this thread. People throw around their opinions like they are facts.

g0ddyX

yea...and whenever someone says their favorite game is a game from the past...they automatically jump on them and just say it's all nostalgia and it's really not

OOT is an AMAZING game and it hasn't aged AT ALL...the gameplay is still simple, the story is still the same...the only difference between OOT and games today is pretty much the graphics

Fact is, one game is OLD, and one game is NEW.

So much fanboyism around here.

Do you still play OOT all the time?

Everything is good for the moment til the next best thing comes out.

It's been 11 years.

When exactly is the "next best thing" going to beat OoT?

[QUOTE="CDUB316"]

[QUOTE="STurn21"]

Do you guys not understand the concept of an opinion? My God, the arrogance on this thread. People throw around their opinions like they are facts.

g0ddyX

yea...and whenever someone says their favorite game is a game from the past...they automatically jump on them and just say it's all nostalgia and it's really not

OOT is an AMAZING game and it hasn't aged AT ALL...the gameplay is still simple, the story is still the same...the only difference between OOT and games today is pretty much the graphics

Fact is, one game is OLD, and one game is NEW.

So much fanboyism around here.

Do you still play OOT all the time?

Everything is good for the moment til the next best thing comes out.

i play OOT once every year....it's just that good

and mind you....OOT isn't even my favorite zelda game...MM is

so i'm not playing OOT because it's my favorite game or even because of nostalgia...it's because IT'S JUST THAT GOOD

[QUOTE="g0ddyX"]

[QUOTE="CDUB316"]

yea...and whenever someone says their favorite game is a game from the past...they automatically jump on them and just say it's all nostalgia and it's really not

OOT is an AMAZING game and it hasn't aged AT ALL...the gameplay is still simple, the story is still the same...the only difference between OOT and games today is pretty much the graphics

Vaasman

Fact is, one game is OLD, and one game is NEW.

So much fanboyism around here.

Do you still play OOT all the time?

Everything is good for the moment til the next best thing comes out.

It's been 11 years.

When exactly is the "next best thing" going to beat OoT?

exactly...there's been a ton of games that have come out since OOT....none have yet to beat it

Am being realistic.

If you play OOT, great for you.

But I know nobody or seen anyone that plays it still, people are too busy playing stuff thats out relatively recently than a old game.

I dont have time to relive my childhood gaming of mario64 and contra, with study, work, sleep, friends, partner, family etc, do you?

The next best thing is whats BEST for you also, since this is all opinions right?

And I loved Link to the Past better personally.

But I know nobody or seen anyone that plays it stillg0ddyX

Am being realistic.

g0ddyX

uhhh...no

just because you haven't "seen" anyone play it does NOT mean that no one does

again like the other guy said...count up the people defending OOT, i'm sure just about ALL those people still play OOT

just because you can't play a game from the past doesn't mean other can't too

are you me? are you him? no? didn't think so, you're YOU and that's all there is to it

Erm..

In your opinion, your telling me... more people play OOT than HALO 3?

lol, am done arguing with blind sheeps.

Modern Age Gaming > Old Age Gaming...

Why, cos we'd still be playing in the 8bit - 16 bit era.

Erm..

In your opinion, your telling me... more people play OOT than HALO 3?

lol, am done arguing with blind sheeps.

Modern Age Gaming > Old Age Gaming...

Why, cos we'd still be playing in the 8bit - 16 bit era.

g0ddyX

no he's not saying that you blind fool!!!

who in the hell said that??? seriously?

we're just saying a LOT of people still play the game...DUH!!!

and YES, people still do play 8bit and 16bit games too

NO ONE is saying that OOT is being played more than games like H3...we're just saying it's number 1 for a reason and even today it's STILL a great game...idk what you are seeing dude

Erm..

In your opinion, your telling me... more people play OOT than HALO 3?

lol, am done arguing with blind sheeps.

Modern Age Gaming > Old Age Gaming...

Why, cos we'd still be playing in the 8bit - 16 bit era.

g0ddyX

So in ten years all the AAA games that are out now, will not matter anymore???

No ofcourse not. Tell me what is your favorite game of all time?

[QUOTE="g0ddyX"]

Erm..

In your opinion, your telling me... more people play OOT than HALO 3?

lol, am done arguing with blind sheeps.

Modern Age Gaming > Old Age Gaming...

Why, cos we'd still be playing in the 8bit - 16 bit era.

Norule04

So in ten years all the AAA games that are out now, will not matter anymore???

No ofcourse not. Tell me what is your favorite game of all time?

lmao...yea i guess he's saying that

so no one is gonna play gears or UC2 in ten years i guess...that's what he's saying

Am being realistic.

If you play OOT, great for you.

But I know nobody or seen anyone that plays it still, people are too busy playing stuff thats out relatively recently than a old game.

I dont have time to relive my childhood gaming of mario64 and contra, with study, work, sleep, friends, partner, family etc, do you?

The next best thing is whats BEST for you also, since this is all opinions right?

And I loved Link to the Past better personally.

g0ddyX

so going by your logic, you should simply quite playing good old games?

and nostalgia makes us blind?

that logic can easly be used agenst everything.

"

"Fact is, one game is OLD, and one game is NEW.

So much fanboyism around here.

Do you still play OOT all the time?

Everything is good for the moment til the next best thing comes out."

so every old game is crap when the next good thing comes out.

devil may cry is crap

metal gear solid is crap the only resone people like it its becouse of the nostalgia when they played the first

and dont make me start about halo, the 8 year old game. move on, that game isnt worth a **** now

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(i over did it, but its just so you can see the flaws of your logic)

Erm..

In your opinion, your telling me... more people play OOT than HALO 3?

lol, am done arguing with blind sheeps.

Modern Age Gaming > Old Age Gaming...

Why, cos we'd still be playing in the 8bit - 16 bit era.

g0ddyX

i think the resone why you think so is simply becouse your to young to know about the great games before you started playing

thats common with most cows and lemmings

Nostalgia is what makes OOT so great and it is godly game for Nintendo fans.

Either way, OOT is not great now compare to what else is out there.

Times changed, people need to move on.

More people play counter strike to OOT, maybe every game should be compared to that instead, forget the score.

g0ddyX

So what if it's not great compared to today's games? OOT is a 1998 game and should be judged as such. Anything else is wrong due to lack of proper context.

LMAO...goddyx is getting PWN'd so hard

[QUOTE="g0ddyX"]

Erm..

In your opinion, your telling me... more people play OOT than HALO 3?

lol, am done arguing with blind sheeps.

Modern Age Gaming > Old Age Gaming...

Why, cos we'd still be playing in the 8bit - 16 bit era.

DeadEndPanda

i think the resone why you think so is simply becouse your to young to know about the great games before you started playing

thats common with most cows and lemmings

I have been playing games since the 80's and I am always aware of the nostalgia factor. Most just are not aware of it or refuse to except it. It's very real, though, and should be factored in. Way to make assumptions, too.

[QUOTE="DeadEndPanda"]

[QUOTE="g0ddyX"]

Erm..

In your opinion, your telling me... more people play OOT than HALO 3?

lol, am done arguing with blind sheeps.

Modern Age Gaming > Old Age Gaming...

Why, cos we'd still be playing in the 8bit - 16 bit era.

Kiyobear

i think the resone why you think so is simply becouse your to young to know about the great games before you started playing

thats common with most cows and lemmings

I have been playing games since the 80's and I am always aware of the nostalgia factor. Most just are not aware of it or refuse to except it. It's very real, though, and should be factored in. Way to make assumptions, too.

so was your and goddy's "nostalgia factor" in effect when OOT got all those great reviews way back in 1998?

don't see how it could be when it was a brand new game

and it's not our fault that nothing has beaten it since

[QUOTE="DeadEndPanda"]

[QUOTE="g0ddyX"]

Erm..

In your opinion, your telling me... more people play OOT than HALO 3?

lol, am done arguing with blind sheeps.

Modern Age Gaming > Old Age Gaming...

Why, cos we'd still be playing in the 8bit - 16 bit era.

Kiyobear

i think the resone why you think so is simply becouse your to young to know about the great games before you started playing

thats common with most cows and lemmings

I have been playing games since the 80's and I am always aware of the nostalgia factor. Most just are not aware of it or refuse to except it. It's very real, though, and should be factored in. Way to make assumptions, too.

Nostalgia cannot be factored in because once it is, only relatively new games can be considered. Basically, it's the "this game is not the best because it's old" argument again.

[QUOTE="Kiyobear"]

[QUOTE="DeadEndPanda"]

i think the resone why you think so is simply becouse your to young to know about the great games before you started playing

thats common with most cows and lemmings

789shadow

I have been playing games since the 80's and I am always aware of the nostalgia factor. Most just are not aware of it or refuse to except it. It's very real, though, and should be factored in. Way to make assumptions, too.

Nostalgia cannot be factored in because once it is, only relatively new games can be considered. Basically, it's the "this game is not the best because it's old" argument again.

Well, it will never be better for me then it was back in the day. I was a kid for, one thing, the first time you do something is going to be more memorable then 100th time you do something. I think games are better today then ever but they will never grab me the way they did when I was young. My favorite Zelda? Yeah, the very first Zelda for the NES that was a gold cartridge. I pulled that thing out of the box pop'ed it in and loved it to death. I liked OOT but at the time I was more into PC games.

First doesn't mean best, it just means first. Plus, in terms of reviews the TC is right. With only tweny reviews (assuming he is correct, I don't know) it's unfair to current games who get reviewed more then three times as much.

[QUOTE="789shadow"]

[QUOTE="Kiyobear"]

I have been playing games since the 80's and I am always aware of the nostalgia factor. Most just are not aware of it or refuse to except it. It's very real, though, and should be factored in. Way to make assumptions, too.

Kiyobear

Nostalgia cannot be factored in because once it is, only relatively new games can be considered. Basically, it's the "this game is not the best because it's old" argument again.

Well, it will never be better for me then it was back in the day. I was a kid for, one thing, the first time you do something is going to be more memorable then 100th time you do something. I think games are better today then ever but they will never grab me the way they did when I was young. My favorite Zelda? Yeah, the very first Zelda for the NES that was a gold cartridge. I pulled that thing out of the box pop'ed it in and loved it to death. I liked OOT but at the time I was more into PC games.

First doesn't mean best, it just means first. Plus, in terms of reviews the TC is right. With only tweny reviews (assuming he is correct, I don't know) it's unfair to current games who get reviewed more then three times as much.

It's also unfair to OOT for being released when not as many review publications existed.

It's certainly good. I'm not too sure about it's position on nearly every top games list, but that's just my own opinion. I happen to like Wind Waker a bit more. It's aged very well though, but partially because Nintendo hasn't changed the Zelda formula since... well. Since it came out.

[QUOTE="Kiyobear"]

[QUOTE="789shadow"]

Nostalgia cannot be factored in because once it is, only relatively new games can be considered. Basically, it's the "this game is not the best because it's old" argument again.

789shadow

Well, it will never be better for me then it was back in the day. I was a kid for, one thing, the first time you do something is going to be more memorable then 100th time you do something. I think games are better today then ever but they will never grab me the way they did when I was young. My favorite Zelda? Yeah, the very first Zelda for the NES that was a gold cartridge. I pulled that thing out of the box pop'ed it in and loved it to death. I liked OOT but at the time I was more into PC games.

First doesn't mean best, it just means first. Plus, in terms of reviews the TC is right. With only tweny reviews (assuming he is correct, I don't know) it's unfair to current games who get reviewed more then three times as much.

It's also unfair to OOT for being released when not as many review publications existed.

Good point. However, I think it's much, much more likely a game will only be fighting an up hill battle the more it's reviewed. The reality is we will never know. Still, too many gamers who think they are all grown up are still too young to understand the feeling of nostalgia and often mistake it for other things.

Youth is wasted on the young.

Wanna know why it's considered one of the best games of all-time? Nothing after it has managed to add much to gaming then Zelda did. In fact we're pretty much still STILL playing the same games that Zelda helped to influence. VideoGameGuy

Assuming that everyone believes it is one of the best games of all time. I guess for me it depends on how deep you go. It's not in my top 10.

[QUOTE="789shadow"]

[QUOTE="Kiyobear"]

Well, it will never be better for me then it was back in the day. I was a kid for, one thing, the first time you do something is going to be more memorable then 100th time you do something. I think games are better today then ever but they will never grab me the way they did when I was young. My favorite Zelda? Yeah, the very first Zelda for the NES that was a gold cartridge. I pulled that thing out of the box pop'ed it in and loved it to death. I liked OOT but at the time I was more into PC games.

First doesn't mean best, it just means first. Plus, in terms of reviews the TC is right. With only tweny reviews (assuming he is correct, I don't know) it's unfair to current games who get reviewed more then three times as much.

Kiyobear

It's also unfair to OOT for being released when not as many review publications existed.

Good point. However, I think it's much, much more likely a game will only be fighting an up hill battle the more it's reviewed. The reality is we will never know. Still, too many gamers who think they are all grown up are still too young to understand the feeling of nostalgia and often mistake it for other things.

Youth is wasted on the young.

Nostalgia would be saying "it's better because it's older." OOT has the review scores, not to mention consistent rankings in Greatest of All Time lists, to back it up.

The reason OOT is so good is that there is a timelessness to the game that very few games had. It was just perfect at the time, and when we first played it we knew there would never be another game quite like it. It was just something special. The feeling still continues to this day.

I think its the greatest game ever made.

haha, this is funny, the fact that people keep asking him if he played it when it was released just proves his point on nestolgia. As for people who say that critics were way more credible back then than they are now, get your heads out of your ass. They just started teaching ethics in business classes (proves how rotten business was back then). If you actually think business was ethical before, you deserve to get robbed of all your money... seriously.

I like Majora's Mask and a Link to the Past better.

SpinoRaptor24

[QUOTE="SpinoRaptor24"]

I like Majora's Mask and a Link to the Past better.

Diviniuz

Yet they still managed to screw up the save system.

[QUOTE="Kiyobear"]

[QUOTE="789shadow"]

It's also unfair to OOT for being released when not as many review publications existed.

789shadow

Good point. However, I think it's much, much more likely a game will only be fighting an up hill battle the more it's reviewed. The reality is we will never know. Still, too many gamers who think they are all grown up are still too young to understand the feeling of nostalgia and often mistake it for other things.

Youth is wasted on the young.

Nostalgia would be saying "it's better because it's older." OOT has the review scores, not to mention consistent rankings in Greatest of All Time lists, to back it up.

Nostalgia is not saying it's better because it's older. The Latin root for nostalgia is 'to recall the pain from an old wound'. This entire thread is filled with people who are missing the point. However, I don't think that's you. It appears you are willing to at least think about itinstead of just reacting.

People don't seem to think what they are feeling is nostalgia but rather the game is simply superior. I guess in some cases that's true, whatever floats your boat, but in many it's not. I think it's foolish to suggest games were better in the 90's; gaming being such a technology driven medium. Yeah, I think it's nostalgia. Like old men lamenting the passing of the good old days and talking about these stupid kids and their fancy games.

I'll give it the benefit of the doubt seeing as it was the first zelda to nail 3d.

Still I think majora's mask is superior.

Hell even TP is superior from a technical standpoint. I mean it's basically OOT 2.0 so thats a given.

I actually think it hasn't age well in some part, but during the time when it came outit was truly amazing, and it still is for the most part. However IMO it is not the best game, heck it not even the best Zelda game.

ocarina of timeis one of the best games of all time and i don't think Re4 even compares.

[QUOTE="CDUB316"]

[QUOTE="STurn21"]

Do you guys not understand the concept of an opinion? My God, the arrogance on this thread. People throw around their opinions like they are facts.

g0ddyX

yea...and whenever someone says their favorite game is a game from the past...they automatically jump on them and just say it's all nostalgia and it's really not

OOT is an AMAZING game and it hasn't aged AT ALL...the gameplay is still simple, the story is still the same...the only difference between OOT and games today is pretty much the graphics

Fact is, one game is OLD, and one game is NEW.

So much fanboyism around here.

Do you still play OOT all the time?

Everything is good for the moment til the next best thing comes out.

[QUOTE="789shadow"]

[QUOTE="Kiyobear"]

Good point. However, I think it's much, much more likely a game will only be fighting an up hill battle the more it's reviewed. The reality is we will never know. Still, too many gamers who think they are all grown up are still too young to understand the feeling of nostalgia and often mistake it for other things.

Youth is wasted on the young.

Kiyobear

Nostalgia would be saying "it's better because it's older." OOT has the review scores, not to mention consistent rankings in Greatest of All Time lists, to back it up.

Nostalgia is not saying it's better because it's older. The Latin root for nostalgia is 'to recall the pain from an old wound'. This entire thread is filled with people who are missing the point. However, I don't think that's you. It appears you are willing to at least think about itinstead of just reacting.

People don't seem to think what they are feeling is nostalgia but rather the game is simply superior. I guess in some cases that's true, whatever floats your boat, but in many it's not. I think it's foolish to suggest games were better in the 90's; gaming being such a technology driven medium. Yeah, I think it's nostalgia. Like old men lamenting the passing of the good old days and talking about these stupid kids and their fancy games.

Let me make it a little more clear: at the time it was released, OOT was so excellent that no other game has managed to match the time-of-release excellence. Invoking the "It wouldn't be good by today's standards argument" is like asking a high school football team to play the New England Patriots. It's an obvious mismatch, and completely unfair. Thus, we do not judge high school football teams by the Patriots standards. Games should not be judged by the standards of games released 11 or even 5 years later.

I never played it until a year ago and still see why it's the best game of all time. The graphics were amazing, the combat system was revolutionary and the story and atmosphere were amazing.

2-10-08

For the sake of taking the less popular choice, that is why it's NOT the best game of all time. The game changed the way games were made. But now, graphics are bettter, combat is better, and storys are better. Uncharted has a better story, graphics (given) and (IMO) a better combat system.Is Uncharted 2 the best game ever, ATM, yes, but in a year or 2 something will be better.

The day OOT released, it was the greatest game EVER. It was no contest. I was friggin brilliant. I beat it back in the day, and I beat it off of the Wii virtual console. I still think its a revolutionary title. Hell it was my favorite game until... I forget. But today, games are out that are (subjectively) better than OOT in just about every way.

No game has ever been as inovative as OOT, or as great as OOT the year it released, but compared to games of the past 2 gens, its been surpased. The student surpases the master as the student peaks and the master gets older.

haha, this is funny, the fact that people keep asking him if he played it when it was released just proves his point on nestolgia. As for people who say that critics were way more credible back then than they are now, get your heads out of your ass. They just started teaching ethics in business classes (proves how rotten business was back then). If you actually think business was ethical before, you deserve to get robbed of all your money... seriously.

wootasifwoot

[QUOTE="2-10-08"]

I never played it until a year ago and still see why it's the best game of all time. The graphics were amazing, the combat system was revolutionary and the story and atmosphere were amazing.

gamefan274

For the sake of taking the less popular choice, that is why it's NOT the best game of all time. The game changed the way games were made. But now, graphics are bettter, combat is better, and storys are better. Uncharted has a better story, graphics (given) and (IMO) a better combat system.Is Uncharted 2 the best game ever, ATM, yes, but in a year or 2 something will be better.

The day OOT released, it was the greatest game EVER. It was no contest. I was friggin brilliant. I beat it back in the day, and I beat it off of the Wii virtual console. I still think its a revolutionary title. Hell it was my favorite game until... I forget. But today, games are out that are (subjectively) better than OOT in just about every way.

No game has ever been as inovative as OOT, or as great as OOT the year it released, but compared to games of the past 2 gens, its been surpased. The student surpases the master as the student peaks and the master gets older.

Better story is completely subjective, graphics are a total given and therefore don't count (proper context and standards, people) and the combat system argument makes no since since the two games' combat systems are night and day: OOT's combat is based on sword-fighting; UC2's is based heavily on shooting.

[QUOTE="Kiyobear"]

[QUOTE="789shadow"]

Nostalgia would be saying "it's better because it's older." OOT has the review scores, not to mention consistent rankings in Greatest of All Time lists, to back it up.

789shadow

Nostalgia is not saying it's better because it's older. The Latin root for nostalgia is 'to recall the pain from an old wound'. This entire thread is filled with people who are missing the point. However, I don't think that's you. It appears you are willing to at least think about itinstead of just reacting.

People don't seem to think what they are feeling is nostalgia but rather the game is simply superior. I guess in some cases that's true, whatever floats your boat, but in many it's not. I think it's foolish to suggest games were better in the 90's; gaming being such a technology driven medium. Yeah, I think it's nostalgia. Like old men lamenting the passing of the good old days and talking about these stupid kids and their fancy games.

Let me make it a little more clear: at the time it was released, OOT was so excellent that no other game has managed to match the time-of-release excellence. Invoking the "It wouldn't be good by today's standards argument" is like asking a high school football team to play the New England Patriots. It's an obvious mismatch, and completely unfair. Thus, we do not judge high school football teams by the Patriots standards. Games should not be judged by the standards of games released 11 or even 5 years later.

I said the same exact thing when comparing the PC games to 360/PS3 games. The difference is, people are directly comparing OOT to GTA4, MGS4, UC2, GeoW2, and many other great current gen games. If you want to compare OOT directly to MGS4 or Halo 3, then you can't handicap one. If the Patriots agree to play your high school football team, then the high school team wins because the Pats benched half their team, then it doesn't exactly prove who the better team is.

And yes, no game has matched the time of release quality yet.

[QUOTE="789shadow"]

[QUOTE="Kiyobear"]

Nostalgia is not saying it's better because it's older. The Latin root for nostalgia is 'to recall the pain from an old wound'. This entire thread is filled with people who are missing the point. However, I don't think that's you. It appears you are willing to at least think about itinstead of just reacting.

People don't seem to think what they are feeling is nostalgia but rather the game is simply superior. I guess in some cases that's true, whatever floats your boat, but in many it's not. I think it's foolish to suggest games were better in the 90's; gaming being such a technology driven medium. Yeah, I think it's nostalgia. Like old men lamenting the passing of the good old days and talking about these stupid kids and their fancy games.

gamefan274

Let me make it a little more clear: at the time it was released, OOT was so excellent that no other game has managed to match the time-of-release excellence. Invoking the "It wouldn't be good by today's standards argument" is like asking a high school football team to play the New England Patriots. It's an obvious mismatch, and completely unfair. Thus, we do not judge high school football teams by the Patriots standards. Games should not be judged by the standards of games released 11 or even 5 years later.

I said the same exact thing when comparing the PC games to 360/PS3 games. The difference is, people are directly comparing OOT to GTA4, MGS4, UC2, GeoW2, and many other great current gen games. If you want to compare OOT directly to MGS4 or Halo 3, then you can't handicap one. If the Patriots agree to play your high school football team, then the high school team wins because the Pats benched half their team, then it doesn't exactly prove who the better team is.

And yes, no game has matched the time of release quality yet.

I don't see how comparing the quality of two games released at vastly different times by measuring their quality at the time of release is handicapping the newer game. I think that creates a level playing field. The older game doesn't have to live up to impossible standards, and the newer game can't ride to victory by having inherently better quality based on here and now.

[QUOTE="gamefan274"]

[QUOTE="2-10-08"]

I never played it until a year ago and still see why it's the best game of all time. The graphics were amazing, the combat system was revolutionary and the story and atmosphere were amazing.

789shadow

For the sake of taking the less popular choice, that is why it's NOT the best game of all time. The game changed the way games were made. But now, graphics are bettter, combat is better, and storys are better. Uncharted has a better story, graphics (given) and (IMO) a better combat system.Is Uncharted 2 the best game ever, ATM, yes, but in a year or 2 something will be better.

The day OOT released, it was the greatest game EVER. It was no contest. I was friggin brilliant. I beat it back in the day, and I beat it off of the Wii virtual console. I still think its a revolutionary title. Hell it was my favorite game until... I forget. But today, games are out that are (subjectively) better than OOT in just about every way.

No game has ever been as inovative as OOT, or as great as OOT the year it released, but compared to games of the past 2 gens, its been surpased. The student surpases the master as the student peaks and the master gets older.

Better story is completely subjective, graphics are a total given and therefore don't count (proper context and standards, people) and the combat system argument makes no since since the two games' combat systems are night and day: OOT's combat is based on sword-fighting; UC2's is based heavily on shooting.

Ok, I'll give you that, its a bad comparison. But I've been playing Uncharted 24/7 so its all I think about. Lets compare it to Twilight Princess, which clearly (but also subjectively :)) has a more developed combat system. It feels and plays fluidly and has more options when in an action sequence. There are also many enemy varients which change up the combat and make it more interesting. The story is meh but there are many other games out there with great storys that prove OOT doesn't have a story that exactly holds up. I won't name names, but guess what I'm thinking. Come on guess. (your wrong, I was thinking MGS4, but nice try). And yeah, graphics is a given.

The OP also talk about how the game had an amazing atmoshpere at the time. Guess what game I'm thinking of this time :)

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For the sake of taking the less popular choice, that is why it's NOT the best game of all time. The game changed the way games were made. But now, graphics are bettter, combat is better, and storys are better. Uncharted has a better story, graphics (given) and (IMO) a better combat system.Is Uncharted 2 the best game ever, ATM, yes, but in a year or 2 something will be better.

The day OOT released, it was the greatest game EVER. It was no contest. I was friggin brilliant. I beat it back in the day, and I beat it off of the Wii virtual console. I still think its a revolutionary title. Hell it was my favorite game until... I forget. But today, games are out that are (subjectively) better than OOT in just about every way.

No game has ever been as inovative as OOT, or as great as OOT the year it released, but compared to games of the past 2 gens, its been surpased. The student surpases the master as the student peaks and the master gets older.

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Better story is completely subjective, graphics are a total given and therefore don't count (proper context and standards, people) and the combat system argument makes no since since the two games' combat systems are night and day: OOT's combat is based on sword-fighting; UC2's is based heavily on shooting.

Ok, I'll give you that, its a bad comparison. But I've been playing Uncharted 24/7 so its all I think about. Lets compare it to Twilight Princess, which clearly (but also subjectively :)) has a more developed combat system. It feels and plays fluidly and has more options when in an action sequence. There are also many enemy varients which change up the combat and make it more interesting. The story is meh but there are many other games out there with great storys that prove OOT doesn't have a story that exactly holds up. I won't name names, but guess what I'm thinking. Come on guess. (your wrong, I was thinking MGS4, but nice try). And yeah, graphics is a given.

The OP also talk about how the game had an amazing atmoshpere at the time. Guess what game I'm thinking of this time :)

Since Twilight Princess is basically OOT 2.0, the flaws in comparing both head to head are even more obvious. Everything in TP is only better due to the natural progression of technology.