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#201 PannicAtack
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[QUOTE="PannicAtack"][QUOTE="usmcjdk6"]

Half Life is so freakin' overrated. It's like Halo. The only thing that carries the game is the seamless Multiplayer, which is perfect.

usmcjdk6

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Half-Life doesn't have multiplayer, aside from the tacked-on deathmatch. And Counter-Strike and TF2,but those are completely different games. >_>

Are you kidding me? You don't think reviewers played the bejeezus out of CS:Source and other HL2 online mods before they scored it? HL2 is simply not that good of a game. There are far better FPS out there. Far Cry was superb compared to a lackluster HL2, FEAR blew the pants off HL2 gameplay a year later, RB6V just crapped on everything that ever came out.

They reviewed HL2 before theDeathMatch released, let alone mods. They try to review the games almost as soon as they come out. There is no time for modders to make mods for games before the review comes out. That takes months. And if they had played a bunch of mods, they'd probably mention them in the review. >_>

As for your statement of "far better FPS out there," I am no judge. I have not played those other games you mentioned. My library is lacking. >_>

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#202 usmcjdk6
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WANT CRAZY ACTION - Play RB6V


WANT OUT OF CONTROL AI - Play FEAR

WANT NO LIMITS - Play Stalker or Far Cry

WANT REALISM - Play Ghost Recon

WANT CROWBAR - Play DOOM, you get a chainsaw.

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#203 usmcjdk6
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Errr,

HL2 ON RELEASE came with free C.S. Source I believe...I don't remember if I paid for it, but I was playing C.S. Source the day of release.

Half Life 2 is seriously overrated. Excellent shooters get eclipsed by it because they got ported to consoles. TOO BAD.

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#204 munsoned
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any1 know when the ps3 version is coming out???
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#205 PannicAtack
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Yes, they did play CS:S. They mentioned it in the review.But Counter-Strike is not "CS-Source and a crapload of mods."

Anyway, I really have no way of arguing. Though I do believe I enjoyed Jedi Outcast more than Half-Life 2.

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#206 TREAL_Since
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[QUOTE="usmcjdk6"][QUOTE="PannicAtack"][QUOTE="usmcjdk6"]

Half Life is so freakin' overrated. It's like Halo. The only thing that carries the game is the seamless Multiplayer, which is perfect.

PannicAtack

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Half-Life doesn't have multiplayer, aside from the tacked-on deathmatch. And Counter-Strike and TF2,but those are completely different games. >_>

Are you kidding me? You don't think reviewers played the bejeezus out of CS:Source and other HL2 online mods before they scored it? HL2 is simply not that good of a game. There are far better FPS out there. Far Cry was superb compared to a lackluster HL2, FEAR blew the pants off HL2 gameplay a year later, RB6V just crapped on everything that ever came out.

They reviewed HL2 before theDeathMatch released, let alone mods. They try to review the games almost as soon as they come out. There is no time for modders to make mods for games before the review comes out. That takes months. And if they had played a bunch of mods, they'd probably mention them in the review. >_>

As for your statement of "far better FPS out there," I am no judge. I have not played those other games you mentioned. My library is lacking. >_>

LMAO. That guy has no idea what he's talking about....Half-Life has always been reviewed as a single-player experience (no multi or mods).

PS. Orange Box = GOTY (along with BioShock in my book). :D

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#207 cobrax75
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[QUOTE="PannicAtack"][QUOTE="usmcjdk6"][QUOTE="PannicAtack"][QUOTE="usmcjdk6"]

Half Life is so freakin' overrated. It's like Halo. The only thing that carries the game is the seamless Multiplayer, which is perfect.

TREAL_Since

...

Half-Life doesn't have multiplayer, aside from the tacked-on deathmatch. And Counter-Strike and TF2,but those are completely different games. >_>

Are you kidding me? You don't think reviewers played the bejeezus out of CS:Source and other HL2 online mods before they scored it? HL2 is simply not that good of a game. There are far better FPS out there. Far Cry was superb compared to a lackluster HL2, FEAR blew the pants off HL2 gameplay a year later, RB6V just crapped on everything that ever came out.

They reviewed HL2 before theDeathMatch released, let alone mods. They try to review the games almost as soon as they come out. There is no time for modders to make mods for games before the review comes out. That takes months. And if they had played a bunch of mods, they'd probably mention them in the review. >_>

As for your statement of "far better FPS out there," I am no judge. I have not played those other games you mentioned. My library is lacking. >_>

LMAO. That guy has no idea what he's talking about....Half-Life has always been reviewed as a single-player experience (no multi or mods).

PS. Orange Box = GOTY (along with BioShock in my book). :D

it never was......Counterstrike Source came with HL2 for about a month.

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#208 tomarlyn
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Errr,

HL2 ON RELEASE came with free C.S. Source I believe...I don't remember if I paid for it, but I was playing C.S. Source the day of release.

Half Life 2 is seriously overrated. Excellent shooters get eclipsed by it because they got ported to consoles. TOO BAD.

usmcjdk6

I have to agree. Its full of orginality, innovation and amazing animation but the core gameplay is crap for an FPS. The combat just feels totally 'meh'. Its too dull, I even like Killzone more for its combat (thats right you heard me).

STALKER killed it too!

But Orange Box, ultimate value still.

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#209 coolviper2003
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It's sad that the Xbox 360 can't run a 3 year old game at max settings without framerate problems... Goes to show you that these current gen consoles really aren't the beasts that they were advertised as....
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#210 usmcjdk6
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Don't get me wrong, I'm buying this for my 360...but this out of control adoration for HL2 needs to stop. Crysis will blow, trust me. This game with score high, but for any TRUE FPS fan out there, it will suck. You can only play games like Quake and Doom for so long before you wonder why you are playing it - and then end up going back to Quake 4.

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#211 Max_Settings
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[QUOTE="usmcjdk6"]

Errr,

HL2 ON RELEASE came with free C.S. Source I believe...I don't remember if I paid for it, but I was playing C.S. Source the day of release.

Half Life 2 is seriously overrated. Excellent shooters get eclipsed by it because they got ported to consoles. TOO BAD.

tomarlyn

I have to agree. Its full of orginality, innovation and amazing animation but the core gameplay is crap for an FPS. The combat just feels totally 'meh'. Its too dull, I even like Killzone more for its combat (thats right you heard me).

STALKER killed it too!

But Orange Box, ultimate value still.

STALKER single player is great but I don't like the multiplayer. I'd rather do my multiplayer on the XBL cause it's simple to get into and fun with all the nuts on it.

I played the first HL2 and it wasn't fun after awhile and got frustrating to play near the end and it also bothered me that you didn't see hands on the steering wheel.

I'll get the OB for the 360 just to play TF2 on XBL

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#212 tomarlyn
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Don't get me wrong, I'm buying this for my 360...but this out of control adoration for HL2 needs to stop. Crysis will blow, trust me. This game with score high, but for any TRUE FPS fan out there, it will suck. You can only play games like Quake and Doom for so long before you wonder why you are playing it - and then end up going back to Quake 4.

usmcjdk6

Now we diagree lol, I think Crysis represents the core experience any non-linear FPS fan can want with perfection :P

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#213 Max_Settings
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It's sad that the Xbox 360 can't run a 3 year old game at max settings without framerate problems... Goes to show you that these current gen consoles really aren't the beasts that they were advertised as.... coolviper2003

Max Settings! :lol:

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#214 tomarlyn
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[QUOTE="tomarlyn"][QUOTE="usmcjdk6"]

Errr,

HL2 ON RELEASE came with free C.S. Source I believe...I don't remember if I paid for it, but I was playing C.S. Source the day of release.

Half Life 2 is seriously overrated. Excellent shooters get eclipsed by it because they got ported to consoles. TOO BAD.

Max_Settings

I have to agree. Its full of orginality, innovation and amazing animation but the core gameplay is crap for an FPS. The combat just feels totally 'meh'. Its too dull, I even like Killzone more for its combat (thats right you heard me).

STALKER killed it too!

But Orange Box, ultimate value still.

STALKER single player is great but I don't like the multiplayer. I'd rather do my multiplayer on the XBL cause it's simple to get into and fun with all the nuts on it.

I played the first HL2 and it wasn't fun after awhile and got frustrating to play near the end and it also bothered me that you didn't see hands on the steering wheel.

I'll get the OB for the 360 just to play TF2 on XBL

Okey dokey

Personally I only judge a game by its single player unless its built specifically as an online game, like Counter Strike. But yeah TF2 has me the most interested, loved the original.

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#215 Dante2710
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*shrugs* dont really care for it....played half life on the xbox...and it was a snore fest
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#216 PS3_3DO
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http://www.gamespot.com/pc/action/halflife2episode2ob/review.html?om_act=convert&om_clk=gssummary&tag=summary;review

With The Orange Box out on both the PC and the Xbox 360, it's worth noting that there are a handful of differences between them, but it's hard to go wrong with either version. For starters, the PC version is $10 cheaper and, provided that you have modern hardware, it also looks better than the Xbox 360 version. The 360 version doesn't run as smoothly, though its frame rate is hardly a problem, either.

Lol @ the bold. ~3+ year old engine and it still looks worse and runs worse? Jeez.

WhySoCry

360 has HL2 that has better grapics then the orginal HL2. I think the PC version in the Orange box is the same old PC version.

Blame Valve because there should be no problems. Halo 3 looks better then the PC version of HL2: EP2.

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#217 DaysAirlines
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FEAR blew the pants off HL2 gameplay a year laterusmcjdk6
My favorite part of FEAR was the office section. Oh wait, that was the entire damn game.
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#218 Max_Settings
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[QUOTE="Max_Settings"][QUOTE="tomarlyn"][QUOTE="usmcjdk6"]

Errr,

HL2 ON RELEASE came with free C.S. Source I believe...I don't remember if I paid for it, but I was playing C.S. Source the day of release.

Half Life 2 is seriously overrated. Excellent shooters get eclipsed by it because they got ported to consoles. TOO BAD.

tomarlyn

I have to agree. Its full of orginality, innovation and amazing animation but the core gameplay is crap for an FPS. The combat just feels totally 'meh'. Its too dull, I even like Killzone more for its combat (thats right you heard me).

STALKER killed it too!

But Orange Box, ultimate value still.

STALKER single player is great but I don't like the multiplayer. I'd rather do my multiplayer on the XBL cause it's simple to get into and fun with all the nuts on it.

I played the first HL2 and it wasn't fun after awhile and got frustrating to play near the end and it also bothered me that you didn't see hands on the steering wheel.

I'll get the OB for the 360 just to play TF2 on XBL

Okey dokey

Personally I only judge a game by its single player unless its built specifically as an online game, like Counter Strike. But yeah TF2 has me the most interested, loved the original.

You like STALKER'S multiplayer? I think its crap personally

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#219 usmcjdk6
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[QUOTE="usmcjdk6"]FEAR blew the pants off HL2 gameplay a year laterDaysAirlines
My favorite part of FEAR was the office section. Oh wait, that was the entire damn game.

My favorite part about HL2 was the incredible AI technique.

At spraying and praying...

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#220 Truth-slayer
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Another GOTY contender confirmed! Man, PC has been having a good year.OregonTrailing
It wont get GOTY because Orange Box isnt a single game and Half Life 2 came out 3 years ago. But it will win best value though.
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#221 coolviper2003
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[QUOTE="coolviper2003"]It's sad that the Xbox 360 can't run a 3 year old game at max settings without framerate problems... Goes to show you that these current gen consoles really aren't the beasts that they were advertised as.... Max_Settings

Max Settings! :lol:

Why are you laughing? I know the Xbox 360 version has a fixed graphical setting. I meant that it cann't run the game equivalent to the PC version running at max settings without some framerate problems. that and the 360 version still doesn't look quite as good.
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#222 usmcjdk6
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All I know is that I can play this game on my huge T.V., leaning back on my bed with my girlfriend all over me...

only on my 360.

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#223 coolviper2003
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All I know is that I can play this game on my huge T.V., leaning back on my bed with my girlfriend all over me...

only on my 360.

usmcjdk6
You can hook up a PC to a HDTV almost as easily as you hook up an Xbox 360. Also you can use a Xbox 360 controller. I don't get this "I can sit back on the couch" arguement when any PC gamer can do that too....
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#224 joeblak
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All I know is that I can play this game on my huge T.V., leaning back on my bed with my girlfriend all over me...

only on my 360.

usmcjdk6

Not really, but whatever.

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#225 lettuceman44
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All I know is that I can play this game on my huge T.V., leaning back on my bed with my girlfriend all over me...

only on my 360.

usmcjdk6
no. You can do that for the pc also. Ownage denied, learn your facts
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#226 usmcjdk6
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[QUOTE="usmcjdk6"]

All I know is that I can play this game on my huge T.V., leaning back on my bed with my girlfriend all over me...

only on my 360.

coolviper2003

You can hook up a PC to a HDTV almost as easily as you hook up an Xbox 360. Also you can use a Xbox 360 controller. I don't get this "I can sit back on the couch" arguement when any PC gamer can do that too....

Yeah, and I can build aSkyline also.

But I'm not going to.

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#227 Mordred19
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Just finished playing Portal for an hour and a half (haven't yet finished it) and I nominate the weighted companion cube as the best video game sidekick of 07.

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#229 coolviper2003
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[QUOTE="coolviper2003"][QUOTE="usmcjdk6"]

All I know is that I can play this game on my huge T.V., leaning back on my bed with my girlfriend all over me...

only on my 360.

usmcjdk6

You can hook up a PC to a HDTV almost as easily as you hook up an Xbox 360. Also you can use a Xbox 360 controller. I don't get this "I can sit back on the couch" arguement when any PC gamer can do that too....

Yeah, and I can build aSkyline also.

But I'm not going to.

okay... :| Hooking a computer to a tv is barely more work then hooking up a xbox 360, but using this "I can builda skyline but won't" arguement is useless because that would require A LOT of effort and time. But w/e, enjoy the Orange Box.
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#230 darklord888
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Just finished playing Portal for an hour and a half (haven't yet finished it) and I nominate the weighted companion cube as the best video game sidekick of 07.

Mordred19


Agreed.
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#231 Magical_Zebra
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Better on PC. Finale-

Dammit. I might have to get it for the pc instead of the 360 because of the framerate issue....... :shock:

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#232 JimmyT2
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I really cannot understand how this is getting such good reviews. I have only been playing for less then 10 hours and already I'm bored with the content I had not played before. In fact there is a number of mods for Half-life 2 I prefer to the additional content in orange box. I recommend only buying this if your a big fan of the series or have not played Half-life 2 before.
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#233 E M I N 3 M
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If the PS3 version scores .5- the forums will go bananas! The c0ws will go ballistic and go on a EA bashing spree
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#234 blitztidus
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How can people say HL2 is overrated is beyond me. Lackluster single player experience as an FPS? You have got to be kidding me. This game sets such an ambience that you actually feel like your in the world unlike most mindless FPS. Not enough action? Wow how can someone even dare say that. Half-Life is Jam Packed with killer action to the 100th degree. HL2 is not overrated. There's a reason it got GOTY and that is because it is one of the best FPS of all time.

And good for people who are bored with Orange Box already. I'm not. I've been playing TF2 since the beta was available and I'm still playing it every night and at school on laptops. It's a blast. Portal was very short but enjoyable for the time spent playing it. And I'm only about an hour and a half into Episode 2 and having and incredible experience (And I haven't even hit the big stuff yet)

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#235 mingo123
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http://www.gamespot.com/pc/action/halflife2episode2ob/review.html?om_act=convert&om_clk=gssummary&tag=summary;review

With The Orange Box out on both the PC and the Xbox 360, it's worth noting that there are a handful of differences between them, but it's hard to go wrong with either version. For starters, the PC version is $10 cheaper and, provided that you have modern hardware, it also looks better than the Xbox 360 version. The 360 version doesn't run as smoothly, though its frame rate is hardly a problem, either.

Lol @ the bold. ~3+ year old engine and it still looks worse and runs worse? Jeez.

WhySoCry

it is called optomization (spellings), i can make 2D sonics on 360 with horrible frame drops

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#236 jg4xchamp
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Im probably gonna pick it up during christmas time. I probably will get addicted to it. SO i wanna make sure i beat eternal sonota, call of duty 4, fire emblemand mario galaxy before i pick it up.

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#237 omarguy01
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just got back from loooooong joyride. :(

went to 3 gamestops, 3 targets, and1 bestbuy ALL SOLD OUT. what. the. ****. seriously :|

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#238 mingo123
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i dont know whats wrong with people saying 360 cant run a 3 year old game ummmmm 360 already has ALOT of games that look WAY better then Half Life 2 and run better aswell so whats the point saying 360 cant run a 3 yr old game????? anyways cant wait for orange box :D 8 more days till uk release, i hope Team Fortress 2 isnt disapointing, also does half life 2 has its own multiplayer?

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#239 CR00K
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I'm so glad Half Life is big again.
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#240 hellsing321
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Can't belive the bickering going on over which is better. Bottom line, if you have a PC that can run the OB you should probably go for the PC version. PC can't cut it? The 360 version is still amazing adn you won't be missing much. Just get this game anyway you can, especially if you never played HL2 before. TF2 is one of the greatest multiplayer games ever and is the one game that surpasses Halo 3 online.
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#241 -Renegade
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i knew this would get a good score good stuff but i am still not picking up the ps3 version because of valve and gabe.
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#242 DuDisNow
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They didn't even review the PS3 version of it yet! Is it still AAA material on the PS3!? Oh wait, it's coming out later...hehe. Good thing I own both a 360 and ps3.
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#243 strudel420
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Well this is a surprise. :P

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#244 Danm_999
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i knew this would get a good score good stuff but i am still not picking up the ps3 version because of valve and gabe.-Renegade

Your actually denying yourself good games because Gabe Newell criticised the PS3's hardware?

Why do you buy systems then? You seem more interested in hardware than software.

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#245 Goten_king
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ummmm wahts the tech specs... i don't have a gamaign PC, so it this outta the question?
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#246 Marka1700
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Wow, 3 9.5's in such a shot time, World inconflict, Halo3 and Now orange box. Can Super mario galaxy pull of number 4 for this year.
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#247 Marka1700
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[QUOTE="-Renegade"]i knew this would get a good score good stuff but i am still not picking up the ps3 version because of valve and gabe.Danm_999

Your actually denying yourself good games because Gabe Newell criticised the PS3's hardware?

Why do you buy systems then? You seem more interested in hardware than software.

Renagade is a well know Sony fanboy.

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#248 mingo123
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[QUOTE="-Renegade"]i knew this would get a good score good stuff but i am still not picking up the ps3 version because of valve and gabe.Danm_999

Your actually denying yourself good games because Gabe Newell criticised the PS3's hardware?

Why do you buy systems then? You seem more interested in hardware than software.

because he is a sony fanboy who thinks all ps3 exclusives are incredible (even if they suck bad) and all games on other consoles are horrible, atleast thats what ive noticed from most of his threads ive read so far

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#249 lantus
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I've only played Portal and Team Fortress 2 so far, and they alone make this package worth buying, I couldn't be more satisfied with the two. Tomorrow Half-Life 2 begins! :D
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#250 CassiusGaius
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Great score, but the 360 owners are missing out on the true experience of Team Fortress 2. My buddy picked up the 360 version and said the servers are absolute garbage and 16 player support isn't that amazing considering the PC is doing 24(default) and 32 player servers... Also, Halo will largely overshadow the awesomeness that is tf2.

If you have a PC that can run the orange box quite well, its really a no brainer and get the PC version.