Out of all the AAAAE's, MGS4 is easily the greatest

[QUOTE="freedomfreak"]

ispeakfact

First, want to just say that Peace Walker is my fave MG game. And well...maybe not on the scale of 4, but it still had some lengthy cutscenes. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWBdpEv-H4c

Thank God I closed it.Haven't finished it yet. Some cutscenes are quite lengthy but the console ones are longer on average.

But I agree.Great game.

freedomfreak

[QUOTE="freedomfreak"]

Thank God I closed it.Haven't finished it yet. Some cutscenes are quite lengthy but the console ones are longer on average.

But I agree.Great game.

ispeakfact

MGS4 > GTA4 or SMG2

Split them up and MGS will be top in everything even if you hate the game or if it aint your favourite...
It surely made a massive impact this gen.

Uncharted 2 should have also got a 10.

Obligatory MGS3 > MGS4

Obligatory MGS3 > MGS4

PatchMaster

Its easily the worst IMO, id be pushed to give the game an 8 in all honesty.

Obligatory MGS3 > MGS4PatchMaster

[QUOTE="BilkeLegenda"]

MGS 1 may have had as many cut scenes but not as long.I played MGS1 at least 15 times.MGS4 i played 3 times before i got tired of it.

ispeakfact

Edit: And if you played it 3 times, why didn't you just skip them after the first playthrough if you didn't want to rewatch them? :(

the bad thing is that we are in the bro gamer cod era kids fail to appreciate good stories and cutscenes, they just want thousand npcs throwing at your gun

[QUOTE="BilkeLegenda"]

MGS 1 may have had as many cut scenes but not as long.I played MGS1 at least 15 times.MGS4 i played 3 times before i got tired of it.

ispeakfact

Edit: And if you played it 3 times, why didn't you just skip them after the first playthrough if you didn't want to rewatch them? :(

I stand corrected.But those cutscenes were at least somewhat interesting.MGS4 had those half hour briefing cutscenes which was just way too long.And the drama was way beyond over dramaticized(dont know if i spelled that right),sure it was a bit over the top even MGS1,2, and 3 but 4 took drama to a whole nother level.Yeah i did start skipping the cutscenes just to finish the game already cuz the cutscenes bored the heck out of me.And never touched that game again.

And i do appretiate a good story and cutscene,every game i have must have some kind of a descent if not better story,and MGS4 was not a good example of that.MGS 4 is a 8.5 in my book.

Mgs4 is a movie with 4 hours of most of gameplay even on middling difficulties it can be beat easily just running around enemies and only dealing with enemies that progress the story.

WilliamRLBaker

So? Your comment really doesn't add much to TC's point.

As far as my own view, I would not have given it a 10. Great GAME, but it got a little too ridiculous at times, even for an MGS title.

I have to agree,MGS4 is truly a special gem

I like everything about MGS4 except it's story. So many retcons. It's like why bother playing the other games.

:lol::lol::lol: Soul Calibur Dreamcast > all other AAAAs, NOT EVEN CLOSESpartan070

Obligatory MGS3 > MGS4PatchMaster

MGS4 was one of the most disappointing games I have played. Especially after the brilliance of MGS3.

MGS4 > GTA4 or SMG2

Split them up and MGS will be top in everything even if you hate the game or if it aint your favourite...
It surely made a massive impact this gen.

Uncharted 2 should have also got a 10.

g0ddyX

HA HA Ha... If by 10 you mean a 7-8 then I'd be enclined to agree with you... There are just way too many faults that I find in that game

However, I've yet to play a game this generation that I felt truly deserved a 10/10 score. The closest games were

-Super Mario Galaxy 2

-Batman Arkham City

-Rayman Origins

-Punch-Out!!

-The Legend of Zelda Skyward Sword

so I gues the one that deserved it most was Super Mario Galaxy 2 because of it's insane variety and level of originality in each level. It's a showcase of what the human imagination can create, but it's still the my least favourite of the games I listed

It's probably the best game available if you want to learn to fry eggs...or smoke.

SMG2 is the best AAAAE game imo. I can't find any real faults in the game itself.

Evil is powerful, but courage is SOLID!!! :cry:

MASTERPEICE!!! /10

It could go to either MGS IV or Ocarina of Time for me. Two games no gamer should have missed.

It's pretty good, if you prefer watching a game instead of playing it.

It's pretty good, if you prefer watching a game instead of playing it.

glimpus

[QUOTE="glimpus"]

It's pretty good, if you prefer watching a game instead of playing it.

moose_knuckler

I own two copies of MGS4 and I can say no.IAmNot_fun

I own 3 and say ... yes :|

Only Valve games should be AAAAE and nothing else. MGS4 isn't even a video game let alone a movie you have to watch. With Valve games, there are little to no cutscences to distract me from gameplay.

SMG2 is the best AAAAE game imo. I can't find any real faults in the game itself.

ActicEdge

[QUOTE="g0ddyX"]

MGS4 > GTA4 or SMG2

Split them up and MGS will be top in everything even if you hate the game or if it aint your favourite...
It surely made a massive impact this gen.

Uncharted 2 should have also got a 10.

Pikminmaniac

HA HA Ha... If by 10 you mean a 7-8 then I'd be enclined to agree with you... There are just way too many faults that I find in that game

However, I've yet to play a game this generation that I felt truly deserved a 10/10 score. The closest games were

-Super Mario Galaxy 2

-Batman Arkham City

-Rayman Origins

-Punch-Out!!

-The Legend of Zelda Skyward Sword

so I gues the one that deserved it most was Super Mario Galaxy 2 because of it's insane variety and level of originality in each level. It's a showcase of what the human imagination can create, but it's still the my least favourite of the games I listed

HAHAHA, oh what a good laugh. Its not even the best Metal Gear. Anyways the best AAAAE's are SMG2, OOT, CC, and SC.

Mgs4 is a movie with 4 hours of most of gameplay even on middling difficulties it can be beat easily just running around enemies and only dealing with enemies that progress the story.

WilliamRLBaker

Hello, my name is WilliamRLBaker, but you can call me Tarzan, because of the way you can always find me in the jungle swinging on Bill Gates' ball sack.

Bought it at release, played through it to the end, it was O.K, never had the desire to play it again.

Even the Water Temple alone in OOT is better than MGS4.

:)

Chrono Cross >> Ocarina >> Everything else >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MSG4

Super Mario Galaxy 2 and Zelda Ocarina of Time have other things to say plus MGS3 is streeks ahead of number 4.

:)

arkephonic

Epic.

The fact its been almost 4 years and people are still arguing about it means it was a masterpiece I think Kojima was able to conclude the story with a legendary game.

[QUOTE="g0ddyX"]

MGS4 > GTA4 or SMG2

Split them up and MGS will be top in everything even if you hate the game or if it aint your favourite...
It surely made a massive impact this gen.

Uncharted 2 should have also got a 10.

Pikminmaniac

HA HA Ha... If by 10 you mean a 7-8 then I'd be enclined to agree with you... There are just way too many faults that I find in that game

However, I've yet to play a game this generation that I felt truly deserved a 10/10 score. The closest games were

-Super Mario Galaxy 2

-Batman Arkham City

-Rayman Origins

-Punch-Out!!

-The Legend of Zelda Skyward Sword

so I gues the one that deserved it most was Super Mario Galaxy 2 because of it's insane variety and level of originality in each level. It's a showcase of what the human imagination can create, but it's still the my least favourite of the games I listed

And..Human imagination, Creativity and Originality... that belongs to Little Big Planet 1/2, also Game of The Year for many too.

I know PC have high standards, but valve, changed the industry.. for the better... not some casualware/sales/profit making game.

Off in your 'shell' sheep.

The fact its been almost 4 years and people are still arguing about it means it was a masterpiece I think Kojima was able to conclude the story with a legendary game.

Kashiwaba

The fact its been almost 4 years and people are still arguing about it means it was a masterpiece I think Kojima was able to conclude the story with a legendary game.

Kashiwaba

If people argue about a game for four years after its release it´s considered a masterpiece? Is four years really that long? If the game is still remembered in the hearts of gamers as long as other games in the industry--2 to 4 generations later--then sure, I might agree with that notion. And even then, that´s practically nothing when you take into consideration other types of mediums.

The industry is so young in that regard. No wonder I usually find the notion that people who say that a game that came out 8 years ago will remain forever as one of the greatest to be a bit silly, when the game just came out, you know, 8 years ago. There are movies that were made more than 50 years ago that are still being talked about. There are books that were written thousands of years ago that are still being read. Who´s to say the same will happen with something like OOT or Deus Ex?

If anything, I don´t see a lot of talking about the game because it was a masterpiece. I see a lot of arguing because the game really did leave a lot of mixed reactions in the fanbase. Sure a lot of people loved the game, but hell, the same could be said on the reverse--far from everyone was satisfied with the conclusion.

I think it is worth mentioning that games like Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots are so great and so legendary, so filled with awesome and defining moments that separate it from every other game out there, that I just don't see any possible way you could milk this franchise for quick cash in releases, like you see with games like Assassin's Creed, Call of Duty, Gears of War, Uncharted, Halo.... Okay, now not all those games are "cash ins" per se, but the point I'm trying to make is that there is so much work and thought put into a game like Metal Gear Solid 4, that you don't just come up with a Metal Gear Solid 5 overnight, and release it soon after.

It's one of the most debated AAAAEs along with GTA4.

The proved ones that come to mind are OoT and SMG2, in the sense that they're not debated.

MGS4 is the modern-day FMV interactive movie