Out of all the BIG games coming out this holiday, which one will flop?

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#151 Aboogie5
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If uncharted 3 flops on gs, thats the same day the world ends

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#152 hoogiewumpus
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[QUOTE="hoogiewumpus"]Gears. Guaranteed. UC3 will get a 10. It's the perfect game.sts106mat

what are you basin this on?

The first one was just about as perfect as you can get. 3 will be better. Gears 2 was worse than 1, so 3 will suck worse.
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#153 Bread_or_Decide
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I really hope Skyward Sword flops. Never seen such an entitled fan base in my life. They need a good humbling.
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#154 Aboogie5
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And didnt uncharted win awards for single player? -_-

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#155 Bread_or_Decide
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[QUOTE="sts106mat"]

[QUOTE="hoogiewumpus"]Gears. Guaranteed. UC3 will get a 10. It's the perfect game.hoogiewumpus

what are you basin this on?

The first one was just about as perfect as you can get. 3 will be better. Gears 2 was worse than 1, so 3 will suck worse.

I think that Gears and Uncharted aren't going to feel as fresh and exciting anymore. There's very little change in their formula's. Heck I thought the second gears should have scored 8.5 because it was already starting to feel like more of the same and those on rails sections are never fun.
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#156 Maroxad
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They may have been the most critically and commercially successful, however, at the same time it is rumored Bethesda manipulated reviews to some extent, reviewers were for instance not allowed to enter oblivion gates. I even heard they were trying to shut down a certain review. Ask any PC gaming community what is their favorite and least favorite, the most popular Fallout will be Fallout 1 or 2. While the most hated will be Fallout 3 or Brotherhood of Steel.

[QUOTE="Maroxad"]

After playing the Beta, I was left very unimpressed. But then again, I have never been into cover based shooters. They still have time to polish it up, but I still think it will be a 8.5.

But the worst game will most likely be Skyrim, Everything about that game looks horrible. And the fact that Bethesda, creators of Fallout 3 and Oblivion, both of which were terrible games leaves me with even less hope for it, I will wait for the mods to fix that mess.

Gears wont flop, because it is gears and because of its hype. Skyward sword dephends entirely on how well made the combat is. However I am liking a lot of what I am hearing about it, such as less linear dungeons.

PAL360

Gears wont flop because of it´s hype?? If something it would be the other way arround.

Must have worded that wrong, anyway. It wont do badly because I doubt most reviewers have the guts to score it lower than 9.0 (which the hype level will most likely be at). Hype can influense scores.

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#157 hoogiewumpus
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I think that Gears and Uncharted aren't going to feel as fresh and exciting anymore. There's very little change in their formula's. Heck I thought the second gears should have scored 8.5 because it was already starting to feel like more of the same and those on rails sections are never fun.

9.5 and better in every way. Maybe Gears is getting old, but Uncharted 2 is teh best looking game of all time and 3 will be even better. There is no way this won't get a 10. Sorry about the quotes, I'm new.
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#158 yokofox33
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I really don't know. I'll just take a guess and say Uncharted 3 or Skyward Sword.

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#159 sune_Gem
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All of those games listed have big shoes to fill, I'm curious to see how they do.

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#160 Bread_or_Decide
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hoogiewumpus
I think that Gears and Uncharted aren't going to feel as fresh and exciting anymore. There's very little change in their formula's. Heck I thought the second gears should have scored 8.5 because it was already starting to feel like more of the same and those on rails sections are never fun.

9.5 and better in every way. Maybe Gears is getting old, but Uncharted 2 is teh best looking game of all time and 3 will be even better. There is no way this won't get a 10.

Don't hold your breathe for that ten buddy.
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#161 lowkey254
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Probably Uncharted 3. I think it will be the best game out of those listed and still get ripped by the reviewer.

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#163 TruestGamer
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[QUOTE="Maroxad"]

After playing the Beta, I was left very unimpressed. But then again, I have never been into cover based shooters. They still have time to polish it up, but I still think it will be a 8.5.

But the worst game will most likely be Skyrim, Everything about that game looks horrible. And the fact that Bethesda, creators of Fallout 3 and Oblivion, both of which were terrible games leaves me with even less hope for it, I will wait for the mods to fix that mess.

Gears wont flop, because it is gears and because of its hype. Skyward sword dephends entirely on how well made the combat is. However I am liking a lot of what I am hearing about it, such as less linear dungeons.

sts106mat

funny that both oblivion and fallout3 were the most succesfull games in each of their respective franchises. I loved both games, i am struggling to maintain interest in Fallout:NV, Skyrim IMO, will be amazing,

It's weird but I feel the same. As great as the games were Skyrim needs to be really careful in delivering a solid product that is actually GOLD before it gets published. Fallout 3 and NV deserve their success but need to be NAILED for their shoddy coding. NV got so bad that is became unplayable for me and literally crashed my PS3, fallout 3 almost the same, I barely could go more than 15 min without it crashing.

New engine, new code, new game; it's up to journalists to drag that elephant out into the room if it were to appear again. To not ding it only lowers the bar and makes it okay to releasing unfinished products.

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#165 The_Pacific
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Uncharted 3 is headed towards flop city. The Beta is such trash. Maybe Gears 3 because its the same game.
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#166 Gibsonsg527
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I say Uncharted 3 because the people have hyped that series like it was the second coming of Jesus and it seems likethe Beta is having a lot of problems.

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#167 javafriek
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[QUOTE="hoogiewumpus"]Gears. Guaranteed. UC3 will get a 10. It's the perfect game.sts106mat

what are you basin this on?

On a biased opinion. Read his Sig. On a serious note I think Gears will live up to most of the hype.

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#168 Maroxad
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[QUOTE="TruestGamer"]

It's weird but I feel the same. As great as the games were Skyrim needs to be really careful in delivering a solid product that is actually GOLD before it gets published. Fallout 3 and NV deserve their success but need to be NAILED for their shoddy coding. NV got so bad that is became unplayable for me and literally crashed my PS3, fallout 3 almost the same, I barely could go more than 15 min without it crashing.

New engine, new code, new game; it's up to journalists to drag that elephant out into the room if it were to appear again. To not ding it only lowers the bar and makes it okay to releasing unfinished products.

sts106mat

agreed, oblivion was full of bugs, but when you make your game as big as that with so many variables and options for the player, it must be nigh impossible to iron everything completely free of wrinkles.

World of Warcraft has not only a bigger map than Oblivion, but it is also more polished and MUCH less copy paste. After exploring the same damn dungeon over and over again, I gave up on Oblivion.

I did not hate Oblivion because of its bugs, I hated it because of its design choices, poor AI, garbage combat (Mount and Blade Beta came out same year, and it was leagues ahead of Oblivion in combat mechanics, it also lets you inflence the world), weak sandbox elements, awful writing, lack of depth and challange as well as weak quest design.

The worst level scalling I have ever seen, copy paste map design, awkward character creation system, awful level up system that punished you for not moderating your training, weak speechcraft system, being able to join every guild are examples of poor design. Oh, and being able to outrun your horse.

Btw, check out this review. (contains a swear word though)

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#170 Maroxad
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i accept what you are saying, i can totally understand, i felt strange joining the Dark brotherhood, whilst working for the thieves guild and the fighters guild.

but i am not a gamer who will play through an RPG more than once just to experience everything it offers. i find that lessens my enjoyment and makes my characters story and interactions with the characters more like a game than an experience.

basically i dont replay because i want to keep my memories of the experience rather than see 15 different ways it could play out. but thats just me, hope i have explained myself clearly there..

sts106mat

You did explain yourself quite clearly, and I see your point and opinion and accept it.

I am one of those gamers who is not fond of being able to do everything in a single playthrough for RPGs. We will just have to agree to disagree :)

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#171 Wasdie  Moderator
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Either Skyward Sword or Uncharted 3. I just have a hunch both will get AA.

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#173 001011000101101
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Battlefield 3. People are expecting way too much from a game that looks like another generic military shooter.
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#174 Wasdie  Moderator
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Battlefield 3. People are expecting way too much from a game that looks like another generic military shooter.001011000101101

Just like BF1942 looked like another genaric WWII game and how Battlefield 2 looked like another genaric military shooter...

C'mon, this argument against shooters is so pathetic.

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#175 TheEpicGoat
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skyward sword.... base on the embarrasing demonstration by mike meyers look-alike at E3 2010...last yearhippiesanta

Yeah but at E3 2011 it looked way smoother

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Lets be honest, this is casual spot (With the exception of over hyped core games like Demon Souls getting teh hardcore mark.) most of the games people here claim will flop probably wont for the very reason people come to this site, casuality and graphics whoring. Uncharted 3 - A franchise that has had mediocre gunplay but the sheer level of graphics whoreness (as far as consoles goes) and movie like presentation awards this medorice gunplayed series and average online components a 9.5 and UC3 has recieved many E3 awards sealing its fate to a AAA franchise. (I like Uncharted, but it is a movie wannabe graphics whore pleasure title, nothing more, and thats what the majority of "core" console gamers want despite saying otherwise.). Gears 3 - If the multiplayer meets Gears 1 then its AAA. otherwise no chance. A franchise that capitlized on the graphics whore consolites that were desperate for a decent game prior to Halo 3 release. its prestige has worn thin. SKyrim - "Its bestheda, its more casual than oblivion, it will flop" incase you havnt noticed apperently simplicity is all the rage with critics, not that it looks dumbed down in any MEANINGFUL way... since most of morrowind and even oblivions extra stats were a pointless waste of my life and enjoyment. Saying this will flop is laughable with the franchises current record and how good and interesting Skyrim has looked so far. Skyward Sword - has received great feedback on its motion controls and looks completely unique, and its nintendo, that pretty much somes up most of you nostalgia ridden people and critics that will throw AAA at this even if the game is ridiculously easy, doesnt stray too much from normal dungeon conventions ect. rant over. but I hope MW3 gets the flop card if anything.
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#177 Pegalamp
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Let's be honest SW in the end Mw3 and Gears 3 will be the only 2 games that will technically not flop and the rest will. There is no way any of the other games are going to even dent thorugh MW3 forces other than Gears 2 and possibly BattleField 3 if it advertises out of the wazoo but I doubt it.
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#178 hippiesanta
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Probably Uncharted 3. I think it will be the best game out of those listed and still get ripped by the reviewer.

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I agree...... reviewer tend to say....unchanged fomula is the reason it flop (even if the gameplay fomula still great.)
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#179 StealthMonkey4
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After playing the beta, Uncharted 3. The beta was pretty awful and the singleplayer looks exactly like Uncharted 2.

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#180 HaloPimp978
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MW3 will flop, no one else said it but I did.

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#181 StealthMonkey4
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MW3 will flop, no one else said it but I did.

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Everyone here will predict it to score low but then it will score high as usual as CoD is actually a good series.

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#182 mD-
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[QUOTE="Birdy09"]Lets be honest, this is casual spot (With the exception of over hyped core games like Demon Souls getting teh hardcore mark.) most of the games people here claim will flop probably wont for the very reason people come to this site, casuality and graphics whoring. Uncharted 3 - A franchise that has had mediocre gunplay but the sheer level of graphics whoreness (as far as consoles goes) and movie like presentation awards this medorice gunplayed series and average online components a 9.5 and UC3 has recieved many E3 awards sealing its fate to a AAA franchise. (I like Uncharted, but it is a movie wannabe graphics whore pleasure title, nothing more, and thats what the majority of "core" console gamers want despite saying otherwise.). Gears 3 - If the multiplayer meets Gears 1 then its AAA. otherwise no chance. A franchise that capitlized on the graphics whore consolites that were desperate for a decent game prior to Halo 3 release. its prestige has worn thin. SKyrim - "Its bestheda, its more casual than oblivion, it will flop" incase you havnt noticed apperently simplicity is all the rage with critics, not that it looks dumbed down in any MEANINGFUL way... since most of morrowind and even oblivions extra stats were a pointless waste of my life and enjoyment. Saying this will flop is laughable with the franchises current record and how good and interesting Skyrim has looked so far. Skyward Sword - has received great feedback on its motion controls and looks completely unique, and its nintendo, that pretty much somes up most of you nostalgia ridden people and critics that will throw AAA at this even if the game is ridiculously easy, doesnt stray too much from normal dungeon conventions ect. rant over. but I hope MW3 gets the flop card if anything.

how is the gun play of the uncharted series "mediocre". Just no.. please stop.
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#183 hippiesanta
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After playing the beta, Uncharted 3. The beta was pretty awful and the singleplayer looks exactly like Uncharted 2.

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what do you expect.... it's a beta
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#184 Maroxad
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[QUOTE="StealthMonkey4"]

After playing the beta, Uncharted 3. The beta was pretty awful and the singleplayer looks exactly like Uncharted 2.

hippiesanta

what do you expect.... it's a beta

There are several betas that are enjoyable. However, Uncharted has always been more of a single player experience. But as it stands, the multiplayer thus far is extremely disappointing, me and my friend had more fun pointing out its flaws than actually playing it.

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#185 deactivated-66e3137ab3ad5
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[QUOTE="StealthMonkey4"]

After playing the beta, Uncharted 3. The beta was pretty awful and the singleplayer looks exactly like Uncharted 2.

hippiesanta
what do you expect.... it's a beta

Gears 3's beta was ****ing awesome.
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#186 Rekunta
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That and Deus Ex.

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Hmmmm. Feel like quoting this. If the videos and positive feedback from the leak are any indication, I'd say it has a real good chance of hitting AAA. I just can't see it flopping, and would be very surprised if it did.
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#187 ZombieKiller7
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Deus Ex will flop, sadly, because PC gaming is kinda dying.

UC3 will do well.

Gears will do better (but will be a worse game in every way because it already is.)

Skyrim will do well among RPG whores, but the general public won't care about anything but shooters.

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Gears