When people say GTA, it shows how much they don't want the industry to grow as a medium. Instead of getting an epic crime drama with tragic meanings that actually makes the Mature rated game actually mature, all of us want "OMG GIVE ME OLD GTA BACK WIT DA JET PACKS AND TEH FUNZ!" it just shows how absolutely immature we are as a community. GTA 4 is a game that moves the industry in a direction that makes the mainstream view games as an art medium, but for some reason people don't want that, and rather have people on the outside world treating games like toys and putting out legislators and bans on these violent games to "save the children."
 God, if you can't see why GTA 4 got 10s from everywhere, your probably too immature to understand.
insanejedi
Get off your righteous highground and take a realistic look at the industry. In case you haven't noticed, the biggest growth in the industry currently comes from the Wii, which is being marketed (and very successfully) as a toy for the family rather than a medium of art. Games can be art and also be very fun, Shadow of Colossus, Bioshock are a few examples.
Now GTA4 is a good game, but I have say that in trying to tell a mature story in GTA4, the game actually exposed just how silly and non-sensical the concept is. I mean every mission requires Niko to go to point A, kill people, return, repeat until end of story. Why does he have to work for these people? How can he get away with slaughtering 30 people in 20minutes and no repercussions? Why can't he not kill these people and find other solutions? Why have immature radiostations but not tanks roaming Liberty City? The game tries too hard to be serious but does not reinvent itself enough in terms of gameplay to match that, and the result is full of contradictions which neither satisfies the serious tone of the story, nor the slapstick gameplay which the previous GTAs are known for. At least with Gears 2, you know you'll love it if you loved the previous Gear game so it cannot be a disappointment. Because of all this, GTA4 in my opinion is the most overrated game this year, and personally most disappointing game I have ever played.Â
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