Overwatch Getting Rave Reviews

@jg4xchamp: The issue here is not if i like OVerwatch or not . You misunderstand the whole point.

Can we agree that OW missing modes/maps , has balance issues and it offers only MP over full price?

Can we agree that BOTH OW and SF5 were super polished and one of the best , if not the best , gameplay wise under their respective genres on their release ?

If we can agree on those 2 statements then my point is valid. If we cant then i guess we see things different and my opinion is false.

Thats all there is to it . Theres nothing to fish or nothing about taste or something.

Confession, I bought the $40 digital version 2 days ago because I have 2 weeks to burn with nothing to do before my summer classes start. My opinion has not changed after playing it for a few days. It's shallow, unbelievable lacking in content (like 6 maps and 2 modes), the tick-rate issues lead to Destiny level of simulkills/getting killed before your ability activates on the server, each hero is so limited in what they can do they aren't any fun to play, all my other previous complaints stand. There is no way this game can justify retailing at $40-60, there is nothing in terms of content.

I requested and received a refund.

If it wasn't a blizzard game it wouldn't have the polish, great combat, or refinement. Thus score much lower.Also it's $40 for the version that matters.

If what you are saying is true, the game will die out fast. But we know it won't.

This thread is about Overwatch, I was just curious.

@SerOlmy: Nothing wrong with that, just like fighters I suspect some people may get this game because of the rave reviews and be disappointed. I think that for this kind of game, reviews can be misleading.

Regarding your comments, valid points and for me its not an issue because the bulk of the fun comes from all the different characters and trying different combinations of teams. I've been playing it nonstop since release and mostly switching between 2 characters. There are at least 7-8 more I'm interested in learning so I'm looking at a minimum of 100 hours of playtime on this game, so per value dollar I'm more than happy.

Anyways. Good thing you got a refund quick its just not the game for you, nothing wrong with that and I suggest some people who are on the fence maybe watch a stream to see if its something up their alley.

I'm just enjoying the bitter tears by some here. I have no stake in this, honestly did not care if the game was crap or great. But seeing people cry, and they know who they are, is LOL worthy.

No I don't agree that it's missing modes, because again what modes does it actually need for its multiplayer? Team deathmatch wouldn't make sense, and Capture the Flag would require them to go out of their way to make maps that gimp certain characters who on more natural maps would dominate a mode like that.

Balance issues? if this is the Bastion thing, largely the game is balanced fine, most people are too stubborn to actually change characters to do hard counters.

SF5 plays divine, no disagreement.

No, because this isn't apples to oranges. Overwatch is a multiplayer only game, that isn't exactly off base from the content we get in other multiplayer only games. Street Fighter V is missing features that the previous entries and other games in its genre have on day 1. I'm not asking for MKX level of content in that game, but you don't have the ability for me to play with 3 or more people in a private lobby and no teaching tools in a fighting game? Yeah, no dice. They deserved to be criticized for it.

I can't understand why someone would get mad over a game getting a good score?

PS4 fans are weird creatures.

Got my copy, it's such a fun game.

How come Overwatch got higher score than Doom make me sick.

also, its only 40 bucks on PC

Anybody that hates this game is crazy. This game is like crack. That Reinhardt and Bastion wombo combo!

tell em about it

http://www.playstationlifestyle.net/2016/05/16/petition-aims-get-negative-uncharted-4-review-removed-metacritic/

that combo is so overused and easy to counter if people weren't so dumb

Your PS4 hate is really not healthy, altboy.

So what's all this about the crappy server tick rate? Is it really that noticeable?

I don't hate PS4, I hate PS4 trolls.

I'll definately get this at some point. No rush.

Whenever I see posters say lems, sheep, hermits, whichever are the worst fanboys I think of how many times Sony fanboys have tried to petition some company forgoing making more money by going multiplat or now this. The audacity to want someone's opinion to not count because its in the minority.

Agreed, but pugs don't always work together well. :P

it's not because it's the minority, it's because it's too low. basically his opinion of not liking the game shouldn't count because it's a Sony game most people liked. It's complete stupidity. The funny thing is removing that 1 score wouldn't even change the MC score because of how many reviews it has and how high all the other ones are

I know, nothing like having 2 junk rats and 2 mcrees refusing to change and adapt and getting rolled over. everyone refusing to play RH or Lucio even though they are needed at the time.

I find myself playing the healer or tank a lot while everyone else sits and snipes and does nothing

They need a lobby system like LoL has for picking characters. That way you can get a general strategy at least.

lol @ the title change.

I still think it should have a single player component to justify the scores. Characters may be balanced and well-crafted but give them a narrative.

And yet you're making theories about me being GPUking. I'm not him though and to answer your question, hell no, when I'm going to play Overwatch, I'll be playing it on PC, where FPS gaming belongs.

I'll never understand why people feel a game needs a SP campaign to have a high score.

Agreed. SP only games can have high scores so what's the problem?

the fact people think a game that gives you 500+ hours of play doesn't have content but a game that gives you 8 hours does?

Some of the most classic MP games of all times are MP only. Some shitty tacked on EA/Activision campaign won't change things.

LOL OMG freaking Sony fanboys. They're hilarious

@zergforlife: one of your first posts was quoting something I said, deleting half of it to make a contradiction.

Don't act like you don't have troll in you.

Either way, why PS4 trolls? Other trolls are ok with you?

There is like 1 or 2 trolls of each system on this site, except PS4. That is were you get 10+ users all heavily trolling.

@zergforlife: I don't think so.

But at least we know you're an alt now.

I am not.

Also yes, PS4 has the most stroll at this site.

@zergforlife: well you and pclovingguy have called me a troll 3 or 4 times for lame reasons....not that I don't have my moments like anyone.

And you called Davillain a troll. He's like one of the nicest posters on here.

So I'm not wuite sure if you're a troll afficianodo.

do you say prey-to-me, cash, am-gamer, gpuking and his gang are not trolls?

@zergforlife: don't put words in my mouth to help your agenda. You only hate PS4 trolls.

That's you. Live with it.

It's funny how this game with no single player contents and very shallow contents is praised everywhere while everyone was complaining about SFV for doing the same thing talk about double standards.

think the difference is that with street fighter, they've always provided single player content in the previous games, so when there wasn't it looked/felt unfinished and people complain.

overwatch never pretended to provide single player content as far as I know it's always been multiplayer only

Best online shooter in years imo, near flawless. Considering I wasn't expecting anything out of this game either, what a nice surprise.

1) Well you see we beg to differ. Because you calling missing modes not big deal to make OW work when im calling missing modes a big deal when you paying full price for a game that could have been easily a F2P game. Theres a big difference how we see things , nothing wrong with that.

2) Thats what i read left and right so lets say there arent any balance issues between chars for the sake of this argument since i cant have my own opinion over this

3) Ill rephrase this closer to my point : Overwatch is a multiplayer only game that isnt exactly off base from the content we get in other FREE 2 PLAY multiplayer only games. You get my point my point now ?

So you having 2 games that are super polished and play great and all , one getting the middle finger because its missing story mode and few other modes for its full price but plays wonders online and then you having a game that could have been easily a Free 2 play game rather full priced yet what if it misses story mode / modes / maps ... its getting AAA status because of being super polished and playing great and that alone is enough.

I cant see how this is possible by any means , im not saying your points are not valid but i see some sort of double standards from critics / users and i really beleive this is happening more because this is a Blizzard game than anything else. Its my opinion of course , doesnt mean im right.

What's up with the free to play crap? There's like 2 games that I know of where the f2p model doesn't hurt the game and those are dota2 and tf2, rest are terrible. I rather pay for a good game than have it f2p.

Now don't get me wrong, all fanboys can be fanatical but Sony ones act as if companies and the industry owe games to PS or shouldn't have the basic human right to a differing opinion.

Except outside of Team Fortress 2 there isn't a F2P shooter (and that game became free 2 play well after they used to sell it for what, 20 bucks?), where there isn't an actual gameplay mechanic or mode that isn't behind a pay wall, so that comparison doesn't really fly. Because you don't get half the things you get with Overwatch for free from say Planetside 2 and Tribes Ascend, and those were fairly well made games (I quite enjoy Tribes Ascend).

It's not missing maps, because very few shooters in recent years have more maps.

It's not actually missing multiplayer modes, because no one in this thread has yet to present a multiplayer mode that actually makes sense for Overwatch in the context of how all those classes work. Because the big obvious ones like Capture the Flag have a giant Lucio sized balance issue if you do that.

Overwatch is getting some free passes on some things, but it's not missing the basic multiplayer features that Street Fighter V was missing. Or Splatoon for that matter (and that game reviewed fairly well too). It didn't have netcode issues, it hasn't had hit detection or gameplay errors that need ironing out, and all of its post game support is free. Street Fighter V is still grind for characters or pay for them. Rainbow Six, Titanfall, Battlefront all had season passes. And while we're at it, fighting games were always going to be scrutinized a bit more, because usually in the case of modern media sites the fighting game is more or less done by the resident Fighting game guy. Given the specialized nature of that genre and how much of a learning curve it has. Shooters, are shooters, any idiot can review them.

Street Fighter V is legit, hell I think it's a much better video game than Overwatch. But it deserved the criticism it got, and Overwatch has more or less earned a lot of its praise so far.

@jg4xchamp: 20 bucks is not 60$ bucks and it doesnt matter if it did cost 20$ bucks back in the days. All it matters is what it costs in 2016 when OW is releasing. Also in TF2 you can make money while playing.

The issue here is that Blizzards official statement over OWs full price wasnt convincing at all. Did you read it?

The other issue is that if OW was a FREE 2 PLAY game noone would be like " How is this game F2P ? " In fact its the opposite , many wondering why this isnt F2P.

You calling out for SF5 have unlockable characters and all but how many did SF5 offered on release for free ? More or less as much as OW didnt it ? SF5 will offer Story mode for free also something that OW will never do. WAnna make a bet also that blizzard will have a SHOP over OW soon or later ?

SF5 had its problems but what made every single critic out there to give low scores was the lack of content compared to full price of the game. For everything else they praised it. I cant understand why OW which could easily have been F2P and its full priced instead while lacks even ranking system along maps/modes is a 10/10 game. Thats all.

Anyways , it seems we see things different so yeah , lets keep our opinions. Its not that i disagree with you on many of your points to begin with.

Why would they be? The game is on PS4... Still remember that kind of asinine argument when Witcher 3 praise surpassed Bloodborne's. PS4 players win either way, cause they get to play both

anyway, on topic, its good its being well received but no SP is a big NO for me

Really overrated game. It's pretty fun though.

It's a 9/10 game, that's for sure. It's a really good game. Definitely don't see how people can give it a perfect score though.

Not sure you played it. You must have scoured the internet for negatives.

12 Maps

4 Modes

You didn't play the game or you would have known that. The tick rate isn't near as bad as Destiny. The game has sound ques because ultimate's are so powerful they had to add strategy to avoid them. This raises the skill cap. All heroes are limited depending on comp because the game is based on counters. I play a character that is good against YOUR team and once you die you try and counter my hero with a different hero. It's a team game.

Anyway I think people think this game is something it's not. You pay $40 because all maps and characters will always be free. The loot crates are only aesthetic. The game is in week 1. More maps and modes will come. The game was built to bring Blizzard into the Esport world since Starcraft isn't as big as it used to be.

Okidoke, so after playing this game non-stop since release, I have found 2 things I can complain about:

1-When you open a loot crate, it is possible you get an item you already have. The bad news is that when you will be down a few items, it might take a long time to unlock those. The good news is when you get a duplicate item, it is instead converted into that gold currency, so once you have enough you can use that to "purchase" an item you are wanting to unlock. As well, none of those items affect gameplay, all cosmetic.

2-The achievement art on Xbox One sucks. When you unlock an achievement for any game, you are able to set the art of that achievement as your dashboard background. Some games have really cool art, to the point that it makes certain achievements even more desirable. Unfortunately in Overwatch, the art consists of merely large Icons with black bars at the top and bottom. That was a missed opportunity from Blizzard for XOne owners. Would have made for nice little icing on the cake.

That's about it, no complaints about the actual gameplay so back to playing some more!

I just realised that this game has micro-transactions. This revelation has devalued the game a little further for me. I know I can unlock these things for free, but I don't like the idea of the game being designed with micro-transactions in mind, since I paid $40 for the game, I'd like those loot crates to be designed purely as an achievement thing, not an achievement thing mixed with micro-transactions..