Pachter: GTA 4 DLC hasn't sold as hoped.

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#101 WAIW
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Wow, genius. I would have NEVER figured that out.

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#102 Steppy_76
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He's got a point. The game sold about 50/50 on PS3 and the 360. Unlike PS3, you have to pay for the online service Xbox Live, so right off the bat that eliminates some of your potential market for DLC on the 360.

lolfaqs

I'm pretty sure that 50/50 being bandied about is in relation to number of consoles out in the wild. They said the US was about 50/50 while NPD numbers put the 360 version significantly higher(nearly 2 to 1, just like there are nearly twice as many 360's as PS3's in NA). That leads me to believe they're talking about relative numbers to userbase and not absolutes.

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#103 Shattered007
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[QUOTE="lolfaqs"]

[QUOTE="-RocBoys9489-"][QUOTE="lolfaqs"]

and you know that Take Two confirmed that the game sold about 50/50 on PS3 and 350 and, thus, hasn't been a system seller despite M$ having exclusive DLC for it, right?

It can still sell copies, you know, they actually have them in the store down the street from me! Guess what console's been selling more than PS3 this year... :P

The year is still going, but guess how many 360s and PS3s were sold in 2008: over 10 million each. Yup, despite PS3 costing twice at much, it sold about the same amount of consoles in 2008 as the 360.

Do you believe your own lies?
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#104 Steppy_76
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[QUOTE="PSdual_wielder"]

MS thought a GTA4 DLC would've changed the way people would look at the subject, guess they thought wrong.

lolfaqs

They also thought it would sell 360s and copies of GTA IV on the 360, which they were also wrong about.

I'm not too sure about that, a lot of these things are designed to get people who've only bought Sony consoles in the past to not dismiss the 360 out of hand. Remember even WITH the high price point the PS3 was expected to pass the 360 a long time ago...things like this, and the pricepoint are what has kept the 360 ahead and kept PS2 owners from simply getting the PS3.

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#105 -M117-
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I sold decent enough and it isnt on PS3.

Nice try.

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#106 druggyjoe3000
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It's because the game is already fun enough. No need to spend more money on it.TheDuffman26
Your justas smart as patcher

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#107 vaderhater
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and that's why M$ and Rockstar refuse to release sales numbers according to Pachter.

http://www.vg247.com/2009/03/26/gdc-rockstar-should-have-had-more-realistic-expectations-for-the-lost-and-damned-says-patcher/

"I just don't think it has met their expectations, and it would have been better if they had set their expectations realistically."

Pachter opined that the Live attach rate is one of the reasons The Lost and Damned hadn't hit the intended mark.

"The main reason is because not too many Xbox 360 owners are hooked up to Xbox Live," he said.

"100 percent of GTA IV owners are not hooked up to XBL. Therefore by definition, not every single person who owns GTA IV has Xbox Live. Because of this, I don't think the numbers were as high as they had hoped for.

lolfaqs

I would like to see the numbers and data that Pachter gleened this from............Oh yeah thats right he is talking outta his a-hole.

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#108 angelkimne
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How does he know this? I wouldn't of thought sales figures are released for most XBLA game add-ons...
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#109 deactivated-58b6232955e4a
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umm to the person saying the points are weird, when you buy MS points they come in 1600 point intervals (this is $20), the DLC itself is $20 :|
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#110 Steppy_76
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It costs $20. Not too many people want to spend another $20 when they already spent $60.

Kahuna_1

Right away? Probably not. I have NO problems spending 20 bucks down the road whenI want another GTA fix. Going by your logic no sequal would ever sell.

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#111 navyguy21
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DLC hasnt sold as well has hoped?? That could mean anything. They couldve expected it to sell 1.50m and it sells 1.30m and that would be "not as well as hoped" Anyway, TC is a known cow, he posted this for a reason, MS has stated that if the DLC was sold at retail, then it wouldve OUTSOLD Killzone 2, so my question to TC is, Did killzone 2 "not sell as well as hoped"?? Let me guess......NO right??? Because its on PS3. Now cows take Pachters word as the truth, but somehow he doesnt know what he is talkin about when he talks bad about PS3 :roll:

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#112 Bazfrag
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Maybe they would have sold more if Pachter was in charge of marketing. He seems to know everything.
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#113 GabeNewellsPie
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I sold decent enough and it isnt on PS3.

Nice try.

-M117-

And thats what really bothers Sony fanboys.

I thought cows didn't care about sales.

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#114 danish-death
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[QUOTE="lolfaqs"]

and that's why M$ and Rockstar refuse to release sales numbers according to Pachter.

http://www.vg247.com/2009/03/26/gdc-rockstar-should-have-had-more-realistic-expectations-for-the-lost-and-damned-says-patcher/

"I just don't think it has met their expectations, and it would have been better if they had set their expectations realistically."

Pachter opined that the Live attach rate is one of the reasons The Lost and Damned hadn't hit the intended mark.

"The main reason is because not too many Xbox 360 owners are hooked up to Xbox Live," he said.

"100 percent of GTA IV owners are not hooked up to XBL. Therefore by definition, not every single person who owns GTA IV has Xbox Live. Because of this, I don't think the numbers were as high as they had hoped for.

Weird.l. Whenever a PS3 game doesn't sell alot cows claim they dont "play sales". Isn't this the same?
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#115 -M117-
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[QUOTE="-M117-"]

I sold decent enough and it isnt on PS3.

Nice try.

GabeNewellsPie

And thats what really bothers Sony fanboys.

I thought cows didn't care about sales.

U kidding?

cows played sales ever since PS1 was sales king.

Sales in in Cows blood. They dont know how to NOT play sales :lol:

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#116 shoeman12
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and yet it broke first day sales records? how the heck could he know? he's just assuming this.
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#117 Immortalzxx
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It sold more like 80/20 on the 360 over the ps3

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#118 Immortalzxx
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cows are still bitter over it not being on the ps3

poor cows :(

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#119 Toriko42
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poor rockstar, M$ set them up borrowing that 50million$ :/

no wonder they are working on a PS3 exclusive new franchise

Rhubarb9

IGN is pretty slow to update that site. The PS3 exclusive project is LA Noire, and Rockstar confirmed it coming to the 360 a long time ago.

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#120 deactivated-6243ee9902175
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Maybe it would have sold better if they put it on all 3 platforms (granted the pc one wouldn't sell at all but that something else entirely).

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#121 -M117-
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Maybe it would have sold better if they put it on all 3 platforms (granted the pc one wouldn't sell at all but that something else entirely) it would have sold better.

Whiteblade999

ya but then cows get to play it. Thats not cool :P

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#122 The_Game21x
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Michael Patcher is back at it again huh? People do know this is the same guy that predicted that GTA IV would help the PS3 and 360 outsell the Wii, The Wii's sales bubble would burst fairly quickly, GTA IV would sell more on the PS3 than the 360 and that Sony would have dropped the price of the PS3 by now.

With a track record like that, how could he be wrong? :|

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#123 Rhubarb9
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[QUOTE="Rhubarb9"]

poor rockstar, M$ set them up borrowing that 50million$ :/

no wonder they are working on a PS3 exclusive new franchise

Toriko42

IGN is pretty slow to update that site. The PS3 exclusive project is LA Noire, and Rockstar confirmed it coming to the 360 a long time ago.




hmmmm IDK Torika, you have been proven wrong before.

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#124 -M117-
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[QUOTE="Toriko42"]

[QUOTE="Rhubarb9"]

poor rockstar, M$ set them up borrowing that 50million$ :/

no wonder they are working on a PS3 exclusive new franchise

Rhubarb9

IGN is pretty slow to update that site. The PS3 exclusive project is LA Noire, and Rockstar confirmed it coming to the 360 a long time ago.




hmmmm IDK Torika, you have been proven wrong before.

no its coming to 360. I believe Phil Harrison dropped the ball. Either way if u search L.A Noire on kotaku.com, u should find something.

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#125 Salt_The_Fries
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[QUOTE="Rhubarb9"]

poor rockstar, M$ set them up borrowing that 50million$ :/

no wonder they are working on a PS3 exclusive new franchise

Toriko42

IGN is pretty slow to update that site. The PS3 exclusive project is LA Noire, and Rockstar confirmed it coming to the 360 a long time ago.

Exactly, they sure did.

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#126 mitu123
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[QUOTE="Rhubarb9"]

[QUOTE="Toriko42"] IGN is pretty slow to update that site. The PS3 exclusive project is LA Noire, and Rockstar confirmed it coming to the 360 a long time ago.

-M117-




hmmmm IDK Torika, you have been proven wrong before.

no its coming to 360. I believe Phil Harrison dropped the ball. Either way if u search L.A Noire on kotaku.com, u should find something.

Or IGN.

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#127 mlbslugger86
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He's got a point. The game sold about 50/50 on PS3 and the 360. Unlike PS3, you have to pay for the online service Xbox Live, so right off the bat that eliminates some of your potential market for DLC on the 360.

lolfaqs

what? gold is just to basically play online...thats it

and their is silver which is free too you know

to Download Dlc or anything else you don't need gold

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#128 surrealnumber5
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oh right we all should listen to what this Patcher guy say just like how he say "this gen will be the last gen for consoles"

OPuniverse
he is also batting 0-1200 with the wii and ps3 sales trends