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#1  Edited By xantufrog  Moderator
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Definitive Review

8/10 - Amazeballs.

  • Pros: no need to cut bamboo because it's already been turned into a form of paper.
  • Cons: N/A

All joking aside - this looks great, and I'm glad to hear they shored up the combat, and introduced this new technical and puzzle-like design element. I've only played Paper Mario 64 - on Wii - and loved it. This'll go on my holiday gift list since my wife can get me one of those cute little cartridges

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#2 SolidGame_basic
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Currently has a lower metacritic than said samurai game so you just self-rekt yourself!

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#3 xantufrog  Moderator
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@SolidGame_basic: oh snap!

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#4 Sushiglutton
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GAMES FOR KIDS HAVE LOWER STANDARDS!!!

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It looks pretty great. Nintendo still has it.

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#5 Maroxad
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Regardless of how it compares to Samurai game. This might still be the first good Paper Mario game in a long time.

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#6 madrocketeer
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I look forward to hearing Paper Mario fans whinge about all the ways it's not like The Thousand Year Door, and therefore sucks.

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#7 xantufrog  Moderator
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@Maroxad: what was the best entry, in your opinion? 64 got me through some tough times - I was bedridden for a while from surgery and bought it on a whim. Played that and a loooot of Genesis games on my Nomad

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#8 xantufrog  Moderator
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@madrocketeer: sundial simulator

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#9 hardwenzen
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I can't even be negative about this one. It looks good. I would even play it if i could. I know for a fact i would enjoy this ten times more than BotW.

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#10  Edited By R4gn4r0k
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@SolidGame_basic said:

Currently has a lower metacritic than said samurai game so you just self-rekt yourself!

Conflicted between gamespot score that I don't care about and metacritic score I don't care about

Definitely getting both games.

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#11 Ghost120x
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Eh. Paper Mario is dead to me. Ever since Super Paper Mario the series has been in a rut of bland characters and gimmicky battle systems. If you’ve played Sticker Star, you will have played this “version” of Paper Mario three times now.

I now compare the series to the “New” Super Mario bros games. Those games are stuck in a void of bland and boring visuals and a single gimmick power up thrown in.

Mario has always been a cash cow for Nintendo but the franchise was never treated as such until recently. It’s a shame.

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#12 Maroxad
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@xantufrog said:

@Maroxad: what was the best entry, in your opinion? 64 got me through some tough times - I was bedridden for a while from surgery and bought it on a whim. Played that and a loooot of Genesis games on my Nomad

Thousand Year Door.

But the best moment was in Super Paper Mario.

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#13 Archangel3371
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Nice. Definitely looking forward to picking this game up.

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Nintendo outdoes Sony once again!

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#15 hiphops_savior
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The best Paper Mario game in years, but the problem is they keep trying to reinvent the wheel instead of refining what already works *cough F-Zero cough*.

The wheel based combat system looks promising, but let's change it again on the next sequel.

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#16 Archangel3371
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My favourite Paper Mario game was The Thousand Year door. I didn’t play the other ones after it though. Not sure if this will replace TTYD for me but it does look like I will very much enjoy it nonetheless.

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#17  Edited By KBFloYd
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paper mario destroys ghosts of sony fanboys

and its an 81 on meta critic. ghosts only an 84. so they are pretty even in terms of game quality.

but of course here in system wars origami king is...well...the king.

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#18 Star67
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@KBFloYd said:

paper mario destroys ghosts of sony fanboys

and its an 81 on meta critic. ghosts only an 84. so they are pretty even in terms of game quality.

but of course here in system wars origami king is...well...the king.

Is it really the king though? With so many other higher rated games out there?

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#19 KBFloYd
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@Star67 said:
@KBFloYd said:

paper mario destroys ghosts of sony fanboys

and its an 81 on meta critic. ghosts only an 84. so they are pretty even in terms of game quality.

but of course here in system wars origami king is...well...the king.

Is it really the king though? With so many other higher rated games out there?

king of july 2020

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#20 onesiphorus
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Was there already an existing thread between the two games? Why is a second thread on the topic created?

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#21 Phlop_Spencer
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@KBFloYd: actually on earth here 81 < 84. I’m sorry your children’s game is worse than ghosts. Better luck next time!

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#22 KBFloYd
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@phlop_spencer said:

@KBFloYd: actually on earth here 81 < 84. I’m sorry your children’s game is worse than ghosts. Better luck next time!

not here at gamespot it isnt.

maybe you should try ign or resetera i hear that side of earth is more forgiving to sony's trash.

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THIS IS NOT RIGHT THE REVIEWRES ARE CRAP ON THIS SITE IM DONE

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@ProtossRushX said:

THIS IS NOT RIGHT THE REVIEWRES ARE CRAP ON THIS SITE IM DONE

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#25 deactivated-642321fb121ca
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And I thought mods are supposed to be of a higher standard, guess not.

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#26 locopatho
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Is it actually 8/10 or is it just a child reviewer impressed by it?

I've reached grumpy old man stage where I'm suspicious of twenty-somethings who almost certainly haven't played the earlier ones, hmmm....

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#27 uninspiredcup
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@locopatho said:

Is it actually 8/10 or is it just a child reviewer impressed by it?

I've reached grumpy old man stage where I'm suspicious of twenty-somethings who almost certainly haven't played the earlier ones, hmmm....

Can't blame you.

We should have a Zoomer exclusion zone.

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#28 lundy86_4
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@Random_Matt said:

And I thought mods are supposed to be of a higher standard, guess not.

Mods abide by the same rules. They just have to moderate the forum, but they are users. Fully free to engage, so long as they don't break the rules. All good, my man.

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#29 DrLostRib
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@lundy86_4 said:
@Random_Matt said:

And I thought mods are supposed to be of a higher standard, guess not.

Mods abide by the same rules. They just have to moderate the forum, but they are users. Fully free to engage, so long as they don't break the rules. All good, my man.

well they are meant to maintain outstanding discussion...but good luck finding any of that on SW

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#30  Edited By lundy86_4
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@drlostrib said:

well they are meant to maintain outstanding discussion...but good luck finding any of that on SW

On SW? No chance lol. Still, the mods on this site do a damn decent job. People expecting deities to enter from the heavens may be disappointed.

Nowadays, I feel the need to state that is a giant joke :P

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@Random_Matt said:

And I thought mods are supposed to be of a higher standard, guess not.

You must be new. You don't remember Casey, or Bran? Anyways, those were extremes.

I don't get the issue here. Mods aren't allowed to joke or have opinions??

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#32  Edited By Phlop_Spencer
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@KBFloYd: btw, I saw a bunch of labo VR sets in the bargain bin at Walmart for $7 LOL

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#34  Edited By KBFloYd
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@phlop_spencer said:

@KBFloYd: btw, I saw a bunch of labo VR sets in the bargain bin at Walmart for $7 LOL

i wi sh i could insult PSVR like that but i cant because sony ass kissers just put it in their closet gathering so much dust you could find dinosaur bones when you blow the dust off to use it.

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#35 JasonOfA36
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Oh, damn. Guess I'm getting this one instead of Tsushima. Thanks for the heads up.

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#36 deactivated-5f2b4872031c2
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The only thing better than comparing Mario to GoT would be bringing up PSVR in a satirical thread comparing Mario to GoT.

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#37 uninspiredcup
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@SolidGame_basic said:

Currently has a lower metacritic than said samurai game so you just self-rekt yourself!

I always find these comparisons weird as it will (generally) be a completely different set of reviewers with a different review count entirely.

Not to mention the wishy washy logic of exactly how the scores are accumulated and how the reviews are chosen.

If you were of a more cynical Alex Jones Inforwars.com mind, you might think Metacritic was deliberately designed to direct the flow of gaming rather than inform people.

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#38  Edited By xantufrog  Moderator
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@Random_Matt: wow. Something has really gotten up your butt about GoT lately. Did it ever occur to you that maybe. Just maybe. I'm not actually remotely interested in comparing GoT and Paper Mario?

Hell, you don't even have a PS4 if I recall - what do you care if this game scored higher?

More broadly, since I irked a few folks - what part of the title or any of the post looks like a remotely serious jibe at GoT? Seriously?

Just to clear the air: I don't believe at all in the merit of review scores, I don't believe in comparing games of different genres, I've posted numerous times about how I'm excited about both games. Feel free to look it up and fact check me on that.

Also for the record about "standards" - yes, a thread comparing a 7 and an 8 for "the big games" from two different platforms and declaring a victor is actually exactly what SW posts are supposed to be about. Too bad I don't care about that and wasn't serious...

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#39  Edited By xantufrog  Moderator
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@onesiphorus: no, there wasnt. The other thread was written a full 4 hours after mine - but I was off doing my real job and didn't lock it down

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#40 xantufrog  Moderator
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@subspecies: apparently, if I'd done that, some people's brains would have just melted further :-p So it's all for the best I didn't push the tongue any farther into my cheek

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@ProtossRushX said:

THIS IS NOT RIGHT THE REVIEWRES ARE CRAP ON THIS SITE IM DONE

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#43 Shmiity
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F Paper Mario. Its a shallow, thin game compared to the first two and Nintendo does not care that this franchise has been ruined. Im not interested in Tsushima- but F Paper Mario and what it has become.

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#44 VFighter
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@KBFloYd: Its amazing how you get absolutely rekt every single time you post, then disappear for weeks on end just to start the cycke up again lol.

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#45 WitIsWisdom
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I don't know for sure since I haven't played the game yet, but a string of lower scores here over recent years tells me that they are uspet they aren't getting paid off anymore like more relevant sites.. lol.

Seriously though... Meta is the only thing I even kind of trust even a little bit and that's because it takes everything into consideration. The paid off, the salty non paid, the actual, and the haters. That said, I never let a review distinguish whether I buy a game or not. Some of my favorite games of all time haven't scored that high... to each their own I guess.

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#46 Litchie
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Very dissapointed. No RPG elements. Battles seem to be useless, so you'll probably just skip as many as you can. The ring puzzle crap in battles seem more annoying than fun.

Not getting this shit. Hopefully Nintendo will sometime realize what made PM fun.

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#47  Edited By deactivated-618bc23e9b1c9
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As a huge fan of RPGs, I get the disappointment. Having said that, I don't think every game has to depend on level grinding. It can be refreshing to know I can simply avoid a battle when I don't have to depend on battling again and again to get stronger.

I'm hoping there are other incentives to participating in battles vs avoiding them to move through an area faster. Who knows? It could be a step in the right direction or a major annoyance. We won't really know until we play it for ourselves.

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#48  Edited By VFighter
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@KBFloYd: Its amazing how you get absolutely rekt every single time you post, then disappear for weeks on end just to start the cycle up again lol.

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#49 sakaiXx
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its a mario game.

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#50 Mesome713
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Poor Sony fanboys. First women take over their Last of us game, now Mario pimp slaps their Ghost game.