Paramount's Switch Failed To Turn Market

Paramount's switch to go exclusive HD DVD has failed to turn the market in favor of that format and that Blu-ray continues to dominate the market with stronger studio support and sales volumes. If they can't get it done with the cheapest players and three of the biggest movies of the year in "Transformers" and "Shrek the Third" from Paramount/DreamWorks and "Bourne Ultimatum from Universal," that doesn't leave them many options.

I wonder how Microsoft/Toshiba are feeling about that $150 million investment, especially since Toshiba's earnings have taken such a hit. To date, Paramount's move to sole support of HD DVD has failed to turn the market, despite the HD DVD exclusivity of key titles 'Transformers' and 'Shrek the Third'. Notably, Blu-ray still represented over 70% of High Definition video sales in the USA during the week 'Transformers' was released on HD DVD.

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Paramount's switch to go exclusive HD DVD has failed to turn the market in favor of that format and that Blu-ray continues to dominate the market with stronger studio support and sales volumes. If they can't get it done with the cheapest players and three of the biggest movies of the year in "Transformers" and "Shrek the Third" from Paramount/DreamWorks and "Bourne Ultimatum from Universal," that doesn't leave them many options.

I wonder how Microsoft/Toshiba are feeling about that $150 million investment, especially since Toshiba's earnings have taken such a hit. To date, Paramount's move to sole support of HD DVD has failed to turn the market, despite the HD DVD exclusivity of key titles 'Transformers' and 'Shrek the Third'. Notably, Blu-ray still represented over 70% of High Definition video sales in the USA during the week 'Transformers' was released on HD DVD.

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aka_aj03

Awesome. What was the % market penetration of HD players in the worldwide market again? Call me when this matters, like maybe next gen.

If you want to know something, here in Japan they don't have a single HD-DVD player for sale. Everyone claims this "war" is still going on but Japan has already decided on Blu-Ray. I still don't know why Americans think this is a big deal. :-\

I haven't seen a single HD-DVD player in Bic Camera, Yamadaka, or in Aki.

Awesome. What was the % market penetration of HD players in the worldwide market again? Call me when this matters, like maybe next gen.

dsmccracken

But by then the battle will have been won.

Whew I'm glad that the HD-DVD is an add on and not built in because I could still play GAMES!

[QUOTE="dsmccracken"]

Awesome. What was the % market penetration of HD players in the worldwide market again? Call me when this matters, like maybe next gen.

Hoobinator

But by then the battle will have been won.

Yes, but for the purpose of this gen, it won't matter by who.

If you want to know something, here in Japan they don't have a single HD-DVD player for sale. Everyone claims this "war" is still going on but Japan has already decided on Blu-Ray. I still don't know why Americans think this is a big deal. :-\

I haven't seen a single HD-DVD player in Bic Camera, Yamadaka, or in Aki.

kaos-hero

because us Americans think we are the **** and the best at everything. sometimes i feel ashamed to represent our stars and stripes. anyways sooner or later, these prices will drop. give it time....dosnt everybody remember when DVD movies use to cost like 30 - 40 bucks?

Whew I'm glad that the HD-DVD is an add on and not built in because I could still play GAMES!

ReverseCycology

[QUOTE="kaos-hero"]

If you want to know something, here in Japan they don't have a single HD-DVD player for sale. Everyone claims this "war" is still going on but Japan has already decided on Blu-Ray. I still don't know why Americans think this is a big deal. :-\

I haven't seen a single HD-DVD player in Bic Camera, Yamadaka, or in Aki.

djxaquaxblue

because us Americans think we are the **** and the best at everything. sometimes i feel ashamed to represent our stars and stripes. anyways sooner or later, these prices will drop. give it time....dosnt everybody remember when DVD movies use to cost like 30 - 40 bucks?

Warner is the key to victory, whoever they side with will win easily.TerroRizing

[QUOTE="TerroRizing"]Warner is the key to victory, whoever they side with will win easily.kaos-hero

Didn't VHS win even though Japan was firmly Beta?

[QUOTE="TerroRizing"]Warner is the key to victory, whoever they side with will win easily.kaos-hero

How can Blu-ray win without north america? Nevertheless, I suspect warner will support Blu-Ray.

[QUOTE="kaos-hero"][QUOTE="TerroRizing"]Warner is the key to victory, whoever they side with will win easily.dsmccracken

Didn't VHS win even though Japan was firmly Beta?

[QUOTE="kaos-hero"][QUOTE="TerroRizing"]Warner is the key to victory, whoever they side with will win easily.TerroRizing

How can Blu-ray win without north america? Nevertheless, I suspect warner will support Blu-Ray.

...yes, America is key for the current HD war because they are so far ahead in terms of HD technology. I'm sorry, didn't the CA dollar beat out the US dollar for the past 2 months?

[QUOTE="dsmccracken"]

[QUOTE="kaos-hero"][QUOTE="TerroRizing"]Warner is the key to victory, whoever they side with will win easily.kaos-hero

Didn't VHS win even though Japan was firmly Beta?

You're probably right, I dont think Warner will side with HD-DVD. Im pretty sure warner will just pick Blu-Ray since they are still leading right now despite $150 HD dvd players and big movies like Transformers and Shrek 3 being exclusive to HD DVD.

[QUOTE="dsmccracken"]

[QUOTE="kaos-hero"][QUOTE="TerroRizing"]Warner is the key to victory, whoever they side with will win easily.kaos-hero

Didn't VHS win even though Japan was firmly Beta?

I'm just addressing your point of a format winning without Japan, that it can and has happened. Are circumstances different? Sure... but that wasn't what you asked.

It doesn't matter, the longer these two fight...the more and more it looks like they will both tank.

DVD's slaughter both, and HD digital distribution is getting closer and closer...

[QUOTE="djxaquaxblue"][QUOTE="kaos-hero"]

If you want to know something, here in Japan they don't have a single HD-DVD player for sale. Everyone claims this "war" is still going on but Japan has already decided on Blu-Ray. I still don't know why Americans think this is a big deal. :-\

I haven't seen a single HD-DVD player in Bic Camera, Yamadaka, or in Aki.

GARRYTH

because us Americans think we are the **** and the best at everything. sometimes i feel ashamed to represent our stars and stripes. anyways sooner or later, these prices will drop. give it time....dosnt everybody remember when DVD movies use to cost like 30 - 40 bucks?

Hey a little advice... Spell check

Japan really doesnt matter

If you want to know something, here in Japan they don't have a single HD-DVD player for sale. Everyone claims this "war" is still going on but Japan has already decided on Blu-Ray. I still don't know why Americans think this is a big deal. :-\

I haven't seen a single HD-DVD player in Bic Camera, Yamadaka, or in Aki.

kaos-hero

If you want to know something, here in Japan they don't have a single HD-DVD player for sale. Everyone claims this "war" is still going on but Japan has already decided on Blu-Ray. I still don't know why Americans think this is a big deal. :-

I haven't seen a single HD-DVD player in Bic Camera, Yamadaka, or in Aki.

kaos-hero

[QUOTE="TerroRizing"]

[QUOTE="kaos-hero"][QUOTE="TerroRizing"]Warner is the key to victory, whoever they side with will win easily.kaos-hero

How can Blu-ray win without north america? Nevertheless, I suspect warner will support Blu-Ray.

...yes, America is key for the current HD war because they are so far ahead in terms of HD technology. I'm sorry, didn't the CA dollar beat out the US dollar for the past 2 months?

Your sarcasm aside, if America is a more important market than Japan. If it went for HD-DVD, that format would win "globally" even if it was never adopted by Japan. Again, this has historical precedent with VHS vs. Beta. Which format sold more globally and "won?"

[QUOTE="GARRYTH"][QUOTE="djxaquaxblue"][QUOTE="kaos-hero"]

If you want to know something, here in Japan they don't have a single HD-DVD player for sale. Everyone claims this "war" is still going on but Japan has already decided on Blu-Ray. I still don't know why Americans think this is a big deal. :-\

I haven't seen a single HD-DVD player in Bic Camera, Yamadaka, or in Aki.

xscrapzx

because us Americans think we are the **** and the best at everything. sometimes i feel ashamed to represent our stars and stripes. anyways sooner or later, these prices will drop. give it time....dosnt everybody remember when DVD movies use to cost like 30 - 40 bucks?

Hey a little advice... Spell check

Your advice is empty, there are no mistakes that spellcheck would catch. Now is a word, just not what he meant.

[QUOTE="TerroRizing"]

[QUOTE="kaos-hero"][QUOTE="TerroRizing"]Warner is the key to victory, whoever they side with will win easily.kaos-hero

How can Blu-ray win without north america? Nevertheless, I suspect warner will support Blu-Ray.

...yes, America is key for the current HD war because they are so far ahead in terms of HD technology. I'm sorry, didn't the CA dollar beat out the US dollar for the past 2 months?

Now you are just going on about nothing, pretty much every country is making every channel have hd content by 2009. Not only that, despite what japan is doing they are only a small portion of the entire world.

[QUOTE="kaos-hero"][QUOTE="TerroRizing"]

[QUOTE="kaos-hero"][QUOTE="TerroRizing"]Warner is the key to victory, whoever they side with will win easily.dsmccracken

How can Blu-ray win without north america? Nevertheless, I suspect warner will support Blu-Ray.

...yes, America is key for the current HD war because they are so far ahead in terms of HD technology. I'm sorry, didn't the CA dollar beat out the US dollar for the past 2 months?

Your sarcasm aside, if America is a more important market than Japan. If it went for HD-DVD, that format would win "globally" even if it was never adopted by Japan. Again, this has historical precedent with VHS vs. Beta. Which format sold more globally and "won?"

does anyone else find it extremley funny that when you buy ten hd dvd/bluerays in a month you are such a huge factor in the format war?

i bought 12 hd/dvds this month adn 10 bluerays. so that means i bougth 22 out of some 200k sold lol. it is laughable when you look at dvd. i bought five our of 50 million sold lol.

oh numbers were pulled from my @$$.

Oh damn, did i go to HDmoviespot again?whocares4peace

Oh damn, did i go to HDmoviespot again?whocares4peace

Yup head back down the hall and swing to the left, first door.

I have not got either yet....But it sad that Paramount is on HD DVD without Star Trek I will be sad,,,,

It also matters to me which one gets Star Wars and maybe Babylon 5

Digital distribution hasn't made selling CD's obsolete it wont' do a thing for films. Heck people still prefer to walk into video stores instead of using Netflix. Goes to show people won't always use tech even if it more convenient. Their will be a hard disc HD movie format, no matter what MS tries to do with digital downloads. Blu-ray sells the most movies. Paramount is regretting their choice right now I bet.

I have not got either yet....But it sad that Paramount is on HD DVD without Star Trek I will be sad,,,,

It also matters to me which one gets Star Wars and maybe Babylon 5

HarlockJC

Fox is blu. Fox owns distribution rights on video to star wars.

[QUOTE="HarlockJC"]

I have not got either yet....But it sad that Paramount is on HD DVD without Star Trek I will be sad,,,,

It also matters to me which one gets Star Wars and maybe Babylon 5

Bread_or_Decide

Fox is blu. Fox owns distribution rights on video to star wars.

[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"][QUOTE="HarlockJC"]

I have not got either yet....But it sad that Paramount is on HD DVD without Star Trek I will be sad,,,,

It also matters to me which one gets Star Wars and maybe Babylon 5

kaos-hero

Fox is blu. Fox owns distribution rights on video to star wars.

If you love a movie just buy it. Thats all their is to it.

[QUOTE="kaos-hero"][QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"][QUOTE="HarlockJC"]

I have not got either yet....But it sad that Paramount is on HD DVD without Star Trek I will be sad,,,,

It also matters to me which one gets Star Wars and maybe Babylon 5

Bread_or_Decide

Fox is blu. Fox owns distribution rights on video to star wars.

If you love a movie just buy it. Thats all their is to it.

Then the president gets my money. :(

[QUOTE="HarlockJC"]

I have not got either yet....But it sad that Paramount is on HD DVD without Star Trek I will be sad,,,,

It also matters to me which one gets Star Wars and maybe Babylon 5

Bread_or_Decide

Fox is blu. Fox owns distribution rights on video to star wars.

Yeah just hoping that does not change....Star Wars is still not out and I would love to see it in HD...IMO Star Wars will help to win the HD war

gets my money. :(

kaos-hero

Fox is owned by Rupert Murdoch. Not George W. Bush. Rupert is far more powerful and much moreevil than Bush and his administration.

But who cares...I love Family Guy, The Simpsons, X-Files, X-Men, and Star Wars.

most ppl dont' have a hd tv yet alone a player. therefore since most ppl dont' have it = anyone's game. i doubt neither will win because digital downloads will prob be good before everyone has a hdtvCrusher89

Considering that tons of people still use dial up. Digital downloads will be just as niche as the the discs are right now.

most ppl dont' have a hd tv yet alone a player. therefore since most ppl dont' have it = anyone's game. i doubt neither will win because digital downloads will prob be good before everyone has a hdtvCrusher89

[QUOTE="Crusher89"]most ppl dont' have a hd tv yet alone a player. therefore since most ppl dont' have it = anyone's game. i doubt neither will win because digital downloads will prob be good before everyone has a hdtvkaos-hero

That's nice

[QUOTE="kaos-hero"][QUOTE="Crusher89"]most ppl dont' have a hd tv yet alone a player. therefore since most ppl dont' have it = anyone's game. i doubt neither will win because digital downloads will prob be good before everyone has a hdtvGeek_Speak101

That's nice

Both BR and HD-DVD is failing, so why should anyone care which one beats the other.

[QUOTE="Crusher89"]most ppl dont' have a hd tv yet alone a player. therefore since most ppl dont' have it = anyone's game. i doubt neither will win because digital downloads will prob be good before everyone has a hdtvkaos-hero

[QUOTE="kaos-hero"][QUOTE="Crusher89"]most ppl dont' have a hd tv yet alone a player. therefore since most ppl dont' have it = anyone's game. i doubt neither will win because digital downloads will prob be good before everyone has a hdtvpenguino726

how do you know america has slow internet? you realize in america your free to have whatever internet you like, slow fast medium, whatever. I dont know if internet in government mandated in japan or something, but its just foolish to make general claims about a global service ( invented by the U.S government mind you) regareding the internet speed of users in a country where nearly everyone has internet and I would say 80 to 90% decently fast internet. I just dont understand how the internet of all things can be slow in one country and fast in another.... your logic is confusing:|

how do you know america has slow internet?

penguino726

because it does, at least compared to Far East speeds.

[QUOTE="penguino726"]

how do you know america has slow internet?

Hewkii

because it does, at least compared to Far East speeds.

I've been all over the world and I've never experienced internet faster than what I got in New York.

Both BR and HD-DVD is failing, so why should anyone care which one beats the other.

Blue-Sky

Yeah except for the fact that BR is not failing.