PC devolopers that ruined their awsome games

lets look at the developers that ruined their awsome games by going after the console market and "dumbing down" their games

we had Morrowind...and then Oblivion (which was dumbed down)

we had Crysis..... and then Crysis 2 and 3 (dumbed down)

any more

Morrowind was dumbed-down compared to Daggerfall.

Oh dem nostalgia blinders.

Morrowind was on the Xbox.

@PannicAtack: daggerfall was pc only too

morrowind was on xbox later, but it was obviously designed with PC in mind

Oblivion was designed for console sh*t

Deus Ex 2...ugh (Warren Specter even admitted it in an interview, they unified systems for xbox)

Dragon Age 2 .....ugghhhhh

Diablo 3 was a whole lot worse than Diablo 2, and it's on consoles.

@Jankarcop: Bioware's best game is Baldur's Gate 2.....PC Only

none of their console games have come close to that..not even Mass Effect 2

Damn consoles ruining gaming. They must all be destroyed.

Oh yes. The poor Hermit that thinks everything should be adapted to them.

I suggest you Tweet the developers and ask them if they regret making games on the consoles. I am pretty sure most of them will tell you the PC isn't their most important market.

@timbers_WSU: oh poor console gamer

Well, Crytek should regret it. I don't think Crysis 2 or 3 outsold Crysis, despite being on 3 platforms.

Hermoids are just trying to be relevant.

@timbers_WSU:

I'm sure they did when they got more negative reception

@endlessinfinity: what is that

pc is better..i know

This is why Nintendo shouldn't go 3rd party. They would have to dumb all of their games down to please the Sony/Microsoft crowd, just like Crytek.

@PurpleMan5000: its a shame that consoles did that to crysis.....its a shame

of course not is like owning a 5 star restaurant against mcdonalds, one of the foods is great but only a few people will taste it. while the other is craptastic garbage that appeals to the fat masses, from money perspective i would rather own mcdonalds, doesn't mean is not crap. Any more analogies my dear peasant?

I game on console by choice douche nozzle.
Instead of asking the devs you decided to make a troll account to come into a game forum and cry? Not using your time very wisely. You should be asking Crytek why they are just trying to make pretty graphics instead of good games? Or better yet hop on one of those petitions where Hermits beg for games...and then cries when they get them because the developer didn't care enough to port it correctly.

But don't with the poor console gamer routine. The console gamers here are happy. It is you basement dwellers who's body forgot to hit puberty that are the ones always bitching something isn't good enough.

You make poor choices

Oblivion was one of the best selling games of the series. The game was pretty great.

http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/the-elder-scrolls-iv-oblivion

The PC version and XBox 360 versions go stellar reviews.

http://www.metacritic.com/game/xbox-360/the-elder-scrolls-iv-oblivion

MS ruined the Flight Simulator series by going with Flight. I doubt consoles had anything to do with it though since Flight was PC-only.

What applies to consoles can also apply to PC casuals and less capable PC hardware. Ultimately, the blame falls on the developer.

That was all MS trying to make flight sim games relevant again.

as time has progressed, gaming has become less of a niche hobby/form of entertainment and developers,publishers and investers have subsequently adapted to the market thats why games have been "dumbed down" is more or less to appeal to a broader market and thus sell more and in return more money which makes the people providing the funds for developement more happy.

Its the way every creative industry works, theres still many many alternative less mainstream options fulfilling the needs of those who wish for such products and the ones which appeal to a much broader market.

Simple as it gets, some idiots on this board (primarily hipsters/ people who live in the past) who will never seem to grasp this, theres still many games which will fill your needs for those things like complexity the only thing is one must do a bit of legwork.

Oh please. look at the MMORPG genre... it once had complex sandbox MMO's ... they now don't exist. replaced by World of Warcraft clones that you complete in 2 weeks and just repeat one raid, have no influence over the world ect.

all of the kickstarters even the makers of ultima online are making a new one, and it looks like a B rate game by todays standards.

so tell me, where do we turn to get those kind of virtual worlds with modern production values?

We can't ... same for many other genres.

Gears of War's ridiculous sales for a boring shallow graphic whoring TPS killed Unreal Tournement flat out.

Mass effect killed Dragon age due to its sales success and the effect that you mention turned Dragon age 2 into a crap medieval fantasy mixed with mass effect. DA3 looks to be not so different.

you can look all day for certain brilliant aspects of genres long past... in indie games.... which poor production values (the only MAJOR exception to this rule is Path of Exile literally being the best diablo game out right now, HOWEVER its production values are far from what they could be.)

PC is most devs most important market.

Also, Crysis2/3 made less money and were critical disasters compared to Crysis1.

What does it feel like being treated like a moron by developers / publishers....

While we are at it, lets just make football about running to each side with 2 balls kicking the balls in, everyone wins... thats dumbed down gaming.

Going with the casual crowd and DLC was the wrong way because it alienated the gamers most likely to spend hundreds (if not thousands) of dollars on addons for the Flight Simulator series. That's why long after Flight was canned, FSX still continues to sell (for $30, no less) even though it was released back in 2006. There's a whole industry of addons just for it, many of which cost more than the game itself.

Lol, /thread

I personally thought Oblivion was the best Elder Scrolls game. Out of Arena, Daggerfall, Morrowind, Oblivion and Skyrim.

Well, in that, it was the only one I could tolerate to play more than 15-25 hours.

I'd really like to see what Obsidian can do with the IP. They did well with New Vegas.

Oblivion is a better game than Morrowind.

Morrowind is just too clunky, cumbersome, and tedious at times. It's a diamond covered in an abnormally large amount of filth.

inb4 "that's what mods are for".

Well, to be fair, Obsidian had previous experience with Fallout, given that Avellone worked on Fallout 2.

OP, you should at least credit the thread @ neogaf for jacking their idea...Don't really like gaf but this place is just getting worse and worse.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=753110

I see what you did there lmao but nintendo does not make hardware intensive games. If anything the games would improve by being on better hardware with a better online infrastructure. Pc games have to lose features to fit on consoles because of the hardware and the game pads.

Activision when it produced the first cod and cod UO for PC.. They were amazing games, amazing story, fun online. They fucked shit up big time with the series now.

Try playing Oblivion version on PC with a controller.

I'll seriously never get this... Crysis 1 was dull. It wasnt "awesome" in any sense of the word. Its sequels, though flawed, were more well paced games that threw out all of the worthless shit the 1st game had. Wow, it was more open. What does that matter if you do basically nothing in such an open space? Crysis 1 was a boring game for me to pass through, thats for sure, way more than its sequels.

You always seem super angry.

I'll seriously never get this^.

Crysis 2 was a dull shooter with try hard Micheal Bay styled cutscenes every 10 minutes. Lets not forget the cheap and pointless quick-time events. Also they literally walk through each level.

The game is boring, stupid, and annoying.

The SP was so bad and cheap. The MP was tacked on garbage. How anybody enjoyed that trash is beyond me.

PC gamers real problems aren't with dumbed down games

Maxis with SimCity.

Troika Games with Vampire The Masquerade Bloodlines. The game is good, but it was bugged as hell.

Realtime Worlds with APB.

3DRealms with Duke Forever.

I'll seriously never get this

All the Crysis games are dull shooters with boring gameplay and bad stories.

The games are boring, stupid and annoying

The campaigns were so bad and cheap. How anybody ever enjoyed that trash franchise is beyond me.

• Crytek ruined Crysis signature sandbox gameplay with Crysis 2
• MS ruined Flight Simulator with a meh F2P game
• MS ruined Age of Empires with an ok F2P game
• Blizzard ruined Diablo 3 on PC, and made a way better version on consoles
• Ea ruined Simcity with AO-DRM
• EA ruined Command and Conquer with a never released F2P game

Nope, nothing to do with consoles. MS just had their eyes turn into dollar signs when they saw all the F2P successes on PC. So they had to make some of their own... ruining 2 great series in the progress.

The games weren't that BAD per se, but the F2P model was totally awful and it ruined the games.

I agree and also the ones who support those fucking pieces of junk.

Spoken like a true jelly brain dead peasant who's only able to play press 'X' to win games.

Resorting to insults says a lot about you.

PC gamers forgot to hit puberty? Have you played COD on consoles?

GTA... oh wait.

Oh, did I hurt your hermits fweewings? Did I say anything bad about your precious crysis dull game that does nothing well beyond graphics?

Q_Q more

IW... COD1,2,and 4 were good games... then they give us MW2. Its the only reason I'm not expecting much from titan fall, but I'll still give it a fair shot when it comes out later this year on the PC.

If you want to make a great pc game bad just say it's also coming to console. I understand devs have to make the most money possible and multiplats help them do that. I hope the witcher 3 turns out okay.

LIke I said. Go play your CoD, Halo, CrapZone. Crysis requires a certain level of imagination and creativity. Oh and you can also watch UC, HR, B2S if formerly mentioned 3 games are so difficult for you.

Nah, Witcher 3 would be just fine, the guys handling them already demonstrated that they won't compromise creativity over quantity. We don't have any problem if a game goes multiplat. We have problems when games get butchered for the sake of brain dead press 'X' to win type audience on consoles. We never had any problem when we share a game on PS2 or with XBox, hell, Riddick is one of my all time favorites. Why? because the PC version was given its due attention.