PC gamers are they killing their own platform??!!

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#1 jasonheyman
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The person who wrote this article is a PC gamer himself so read it carefully I will help "highlight" the important lines to back up my arguement!..;)

"Have any of you realized the lack of support for PC products as I have? It seems everywhere I go now the PC sections are getting smaller and smaller."

"So with all the vendors and retailers removing PC stock(including performance parts and hardware) from their shelves where does this leave all of us?? Sure you can say the internet!! But that doesn't help you when even most of our larger sites our trimming down their offerings as well."

"Recent articles involving the makers of Crysis, Titan's Quest, and now even John Carmack and ID software express they are switching their focus to consoles primarily because PC games just aren't selling anymore."

"Console sales and gaming is wiping the floor with PC's and all the evidence supports this."

The Last line is ownage for the thread

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#2 JangoWuzHere
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another Jasonheyman thread bashing PC?
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#4 Squall18
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I never game on PC other than WOW a while ago. 

It's a great gaming platform.  I just like consoles better for my own personal reasons.

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#5 PS3_3DO
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Blame the pirates.

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#6 kidcool189
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[QUOTE="JangoWuzHere"]another Jasonheyman thread bashing PC? Pinkyimp
And as you can tell, there's almost no post on it because nobody cares anymore.. Nobody cares anymore jasonheyman, your threads suck and 100% of the time. fail.

lol so true, this thread was at the very bottom of the first page with no posts, so close to being pushed back to the next page until jango had to ruin it :P, and we all know whenever threads hit the 2nd page, they are usually dead
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#7 JangoWuzHere
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I never game on PC other than WOW a while ago. 

It's a great gaming platform.  I just like consoles better for my own personal reasons.

Squall18
no problem here. Everyone has their own gameing platform that they like. I like PC mainly for RTS and WRPG games. but you could say thats just me.
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#8 jasonheyman
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"The point of my writing is to express grave concern for the PC gaming market, and to bring to light the fact that if you are "Pirating" software, you need to wake up and realize that you are killing your own favorite hobby."
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#11 SamiRDuran
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[QUOTE="kidcool189"]lets just hijack this thread and talk about.....napoleon dynamite since its on tv right now, god that movie is so dumb, yet so freaking corny i cant help to love it, especially the state of mind im in rihgt now ;)Pinkyimp
What is the mexican kid's name, i loved him in that movie, and Kip, Kip and the slap scene was gold.

i got no idea what you are talking about... :P
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#12 Pinkyimp
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[QUOTE="Pinkyimp"][QUOTE="kidcool189"]lets just hijack this thread and talk about.....napoleon dynamite since its on tv right now, god that movie is so dumb, yet so freaking corny i cant help to love it, especially the state of mind im in rihgt now ;)SamiRDuran
What is the mexican kid's name, i loved him in that movie, and Kip, Kip and the slap scene was gold.

i got no idea what you are talking about... :P

NVM Pedro, how did i forget that name.
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#13 soiheardyoulike
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Not sure why that movie was loved so much but it just was.Kip was cool though.
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#14 mo0ksi
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Ugh... you. Anyway.... So I watched Pan's Labyrinth for the first time today. I thought it was excellent. Anyone else see it?
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#15 Shafftehr
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Yikes, Tomshardware is one of those perennial PC gaming strongholds too... One of those sites I don't expect PC gamers to belittle for speaking bad of the platform, because it is one of the best representatives of their platform.
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#18 Pinkyimp
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Thread stamped and owned by jasonheyman;)jasonheyman
lol
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#19 jasonheyman
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Yikes, Tomshardware is one of those perennial PC gaming strongholds too... One of those sites I don't expect PC gamers to belittle for speaking bad of the platform, because it is one of the best representatives of their platform.Shafftehr

LMAO why do you think it's being avoided;)

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#21 mo0ksi
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[QUOTE="Shafftehr"]Yikes, Tomshardware is one of those perennial PC gaming strongholds too... One of those sites I don't expect PC gamers to belittle for speaking bad of the platform, because it is one of the best representatives of their platform.jasonheyman

LMAO why do you think it's being avoided;)

This article is rather old. I read this up a couple months ago and everyone seemed to not care about it...except for you.
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#22 EuroMafia
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Sure why not.
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#23 Pinkyimp
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Sure why not.EuroMafia
Why did you remove your Banjo Bear dancing..that was awesome :((
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#24 MarloStanfield
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[QUOTE="Pinkyimp"] Why did you remove your Banjo Bear dancing..that was awesome :((

is the new banjo any good? it looks lame
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#25 Shafftehr
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[QUOTE="MarloStanfield"][QUOTE="Pinkyimp"] Why did you remove your Banjo Bear dancing..that was awesome :((

is the new banjo any good? it looks lame

It's kind of like most of the new Rare games... Actually quite good, but a bit more of a niche game. Viva Pinata rocks it, in my opinion ;)
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#26 kidcool189
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Not sure why that movie was loved so much but it just was.Kip was cool though.soiheardyoulike
lol ya dude, kip was awesome, gotta give the man props for hookin up wiht that la fawnduh chick through the web hahahaha
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#27 Pinkyimp
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[QUOTE="MarloStanfield"][QUOTE="Pinkyimp"] Why did you remove your Banjo Bear dancing..that was awesome :((

is the new banjo any good? it looks lame

I didn't enjoy the demo like i though i was going too, something just failed to keep my attention on the game, i uninstalled after the first play, but from reviews it's supposed to be a solid game, but i probably wont touch it.
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[QUOTE="Shafftehr"] It's kind of like most of the new Rare games... Actually quite good, but a bit more of a niche game. Viva Pinata rocks it, in my opinion ;)

I leki viva pinata. I only played the DS one but I've got the PC version somewhere in the house
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#29 MarloStanfield
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[QUOTE="Pinkyimp"] I didn't enjoy the demo like i though i was going too, something just failed to keep my attention on the game, i uninstalled after the first play, but from reviews it's supposed to be a solid game, but i probably wont touch it.

I never really like the Banjo games, they were very repetitive. I preferred conker and the shooting game they made. Jet Force Gemini, I also loved Blast Corps
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#30 GinoNYC
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bu- bu- teh one-hit wonder WoW totally makes up for all that!!! :cry: 14 mil subscribers! :cry: RTS games and shooters! :cry:
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#31 Pinkyimp
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bu- bu- teh one-hit wonder WoW totally makes up for all that!!! :cry: 14 mil subscribers! :cry: RTS games and shooters! :cry:GinoNYC
Hmm...you would think that somebody would notice that this whole thread is off topic now...guess i was wrong.
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#32 Shafftehr
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bu- bu- teh one-hit wonder WoW totally makes up for all that!!! :cry: 14 mil subscribers! :cry: RTS games and shooters! :cry:GinoNYC
WoW is not a one-hit-wonder - all Blizzard games do exceptionally well. What it IS is a game that is making the the market so hostile to smaller developers who want a bit of a budget without making mass-appeal games so hostile that they're forcing to jump ship to consoles.
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#33 MarloStanfield
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[QUOTE="Pinkyimp"] Hmm...you would think that somebody would notice that this whole thread is off topic now...guess i was wrong.

whats wrong with RTS and shooters? speaking of RTS have you heard about the new company of heroes expansion, it sounds cool as hell. Then there's starcraft and DWO :shock: there's also rumors that homeworld, syndicate, x-com, star control, baldurs gate planescape and amster of orion are coming back slowtaku had it up
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[QUOTE="GinoNYC"]bu- bu- teh one-hit wonder WoW totally makes up for all that!!! :cry: 14 mil subscribers! :cry: RTS games and shooters! :cry:Shafftehr
WoW is not a one-hit-wonder - all Blizzard games do exceptionally well. What it IS is a game that is making the the market so hostile to smaller developers who want a bit of a budget without making mass-appeal games so hostile that they're forcing to jump ship to consoles.

WoW is in a bit of its own bubble... Most WoW gamers are not big PC gamers so I don't really think WoW affects the overall market that much. And yeah, pretty much every Blizzard game since at least Diablo/SC has sold a million or multimillions. SC is one of the best selling games of all time.
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#35 MasterC5
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bu- bu- teh one-hit wonder WoW totally makes up for all that!!! :cry: 14 mil subscribers! :cry: RTS games and shooters! :cry:GinoNYC
TF2's community probably makes any console games online community look pitiful, there's other large PC gaming communities not just world of warcrap.
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#36 MasterC5
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[QUOTE="MarloStanfield"][QUOTE="Pinkyimp"] Hmm...you would think that somebody would notice that this whole thread is off topic now...guess i was wrong.

whats wrong with RTS and shooters? speaking of RTS have you heard about the new company of heroes expansion, it sounds cool as hell. Then there's starcraft and DWO :shock: there's also rumors that homeworld, syndicate, x-com, star control, baldurs gate planescape and amster of orion are coming back slowtaku had it up

A sequel to Xcom would be so GODLY!
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#37 Pinkyimp
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[QUOTE="MarloStanfield"][QUOTE="Pinkyimp"] Hmm...you would think that somebody would notice that this whole thread is off topic now...guess i was wrong.

whats wrong with RTS and shooters? speaking of RTS have you heard about the new company of heroes expansion, it sounds cool as hell. Then there's starcraft and DWO :shock: there's also rumors that homeworld, syndicate, x-com, star control, baldurs gate planescape and amster of orion are coming back slowtaku had it up

Nothing of course, there my 2 fav genres. If all of those games get announced then PC gaming is finally back to its glory, but i can only see a few happening, but still, we have SC2 and Diablo 3, 2 HUGE games from blizzard Empire looks great as well, and Dawn of war, This is the year for RTS's, so many good games coming out
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What it IS is a game that is making the the market so hostile to smaller developers who want a bit of a budget without making mass-appeal games so hostile that they're forcing to jump ship to consoles. Shafftehr

You base this on...what?

I'm seeing alot of companies trying to make their games appeal to the masses. It's the reason I'd say traditional RPG developers are creating action RPG. If anything, the PC is probably easier to developer for assuming you are relatively unknown and don't have a massive amount of funds to develop with.

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#39 Shafftehr
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[QUOTE="Shafftehr"][QUOTE="GinoNYC"]bu- bu- teh one-hit wonder WoW totally makes up for all that!!! :cry: 14 mil subscribers! :cry: RTS games and shooters! :cry:Captain__Tripps
WoW is not a one-hit-wonder - all Blizzard games do exceptionally well. What it IS is a game that is making the the market so hostile to smaller developers who want a bit of a budget without making mass-appeal games so hostile that they're forcing to jump ship to consoles.

WoW is in a bit of its own bubble... Most WoW gamers are not big PC gamers so I don't really think WoW affects the overall market that much. And yeah, pretty much every Blizzard game since at least Diablo/SC has sold a million or multimillions. SC is one of the best selling games of all time.

It's not so much an issue of what gamers play as what the investors are willing to dump money into. An investor can either dump money into Doom IV or something, and expect to reach a relatively small and "elite" group of PC gamers paying a one-time fee to play the game, or they can dump money into something that has mass-appeal, low hardware requirements, and sometimes continuing fees - like WoW. Or the Sims. PC gaming used to be all about developers making products which didn't net near the types of returns that a game like WoW does... Now, developers dumping money into PC gaming see the potential of games like WoW and The Sims and don't care as much about doing things like Tribes of Mechwarrior or Descent or Homeworld or Myth or... You get the idea. And who would blame them - why would they dump money into games like that that used to define PC gaming rather than a game like WoW which could have such tremendous returns? I'm afraid the success of a few games is shaping PC gaming into something quite different from the PC gaming I did for years. Games like Crysis... Well, that used to be the norm. Now, it's the exception, and the MMO's almost outnumber the smaller, less potentially profitable games, while the developers previously making those games jump ship to consoles.
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#40 swazidoughman
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People have been saying that PC Gaming is dieing for a loooooooooooooooong time now.

And it always stays alive.:P 

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#41 MarloStanfield
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SC2 and Diablo3 are a start. I've got a feeling Blizzards new MMO might finally get me interested in the genre if it's a little more hands on the wow Syndicate is apparently in the works from EA (along with wing commander). Homeworld will be Relic. X-com is irrational and the rest are being looked at by stardock I perosnally dont minsd if they all get ported to console, I just want them
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#42 Elite-Realist
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People have been saying that PC Gaming is dieing for a loooooooooooooooong time now.

And it always stays alive.:P 

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pc gaming is the best but pirate are the enemy
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#43 Pinkyimp
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People have been saying that PC Gaming is dieing for a loooooooooooooooong time now.

And it always stays alive.:P 

swazidoughman
Yep, unlike the topic of this thread.. God this failed quick, record time For jasonheyman, Not even 3 pages long
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#44 Theverydeepend
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PC gaming started to crumble when people stop buying games and downloading them illegally. Why make games for less profit than you would make on an actual console? I am a PC gamer and I know PC gamers are the reason why PC gaming is falling apart. Fing downloaders you are ruining this for us. You are giving developers less and less reason to make games on our PC. Sorry for the erage, but I may be a pc gamer but i hate people who steal pc games then complain oh why is PC gaming failing................
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#45 swazidoughman
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PC gaming started to crumble when people stop buying games and downloading them illegally. Why make games for less profit than you would make on an actual console? I am a PC gamer and I know PC gamers are the reason why PC gaming is falling apart. Fing downloaders you are ruining this for us. You are giving developers less and less reason to make games on our PC. Sorry for the erage, but I may be a pc gamer but i hate people who steal pc games then complain oh why is PC gaming failing................Theverydeepend

People have been pirating PC games since PC games existed.

It's just that now they are getting pissy about it. 

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#46 imprezawrx500
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bla bla bla don't you like playing games or something? you seem to spend all your time digging up pointless stories. explain the couple of million gta4 copies pirated on x360 weeks before release or people finishing gears2 2-3 weeks before release, going by your logic console player are also killing their own platform
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#47 Richard7666
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Bah what a load of rubbish. I pirate games from time to time, but I also buy more games than I ever have. My PC game shelf is full of great titles. Also, if you want to play online, it's basically impossible to use pirated copies most of the time. That's a useful little safeguard.

How about I ask "are video stores killing console gaming?". Because all I do is rent a console title out for a couple of dollars for a week; more than enough time to complete most of them.

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#48 Captain__Tripps
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PC gaming started to crumble when people stop buying games and downloading them illegally. Why make games for less profit than you would make on an actual console? I am a PC gamer and I know PC gamers are the reason why PC gaming is falling apart. Fing downloaders you are ruining this for us. You are giving developers less and less reason to make games on our PC. Sorry for the erage, but I may be a pc gamer but i hate people who steal pc games then complain oh why is PC gaming failing................Theverydeepend
PC gaming isn't crumbling, and piracy existed back in the c64 days...
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#49 Blue-Sky
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I have never bought a PC game in a store. Why would I when I have Steam and online retailers with exactly what I'm looking for?
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#50 anshul89
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LOL @ the hijack :lol: