PC gamers are they killing their own platform??!!

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#101 AnnoyedDragon
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Why am I not surprised in the least to see a topic like this by jasonheyman? Has he ever posted a topic that wasn't attacking PC gaming in some way?
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#102 IgGy621985
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The person who wrote this article is a PC gamer himself so read it carefully I will help "highlight" the important lines to back up my arguement!..;)

"Have any of you realized the lack of support for PC products as I have? It seems everywhere I go now the PC sections are getting smaller and smaller."

"So with all the vendors and retailers removing PC stock(including performance parts and hardware) from their shelves where does this leave all of us?? Sure you can say the internet!! But that doesn't help you when even most of our larger sites our trimming down their offerings as well."

"Recent articles involving the makers of Crysis, Titan's Quest, and now even John Carmack and ID software express they are switching their focus to consoles primarily because PC games just aren't selling anymore."

"Console sales and gaming is wiping the floor with PC's and all the evidence supports this."

The Last line is ownage for the thread

jasonheyman

Well, I'm a PC gamer and he's right. Something needs to be done with the PC gaming industry.

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#103 swazidoughman
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[QUOTE="jasonheyman"]

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The person who wrote this article is a PC gamer himself so read it carefully I will help "highlight" the important lines to back up my arguement!..;)

"Have any of you realized the lack of support for PC products as I have? It seems everywhere I go now the PC sections are getting smaller and smaller."

"So with all the vendors and retailers removing PC stock(including performance parts and hardware) from their shelves where does this leave all of us?? Sure you can say the internet!! But that doesn't help you when even most of our larger sites our trimming down their offerings as well."

"Recent articles involving the makers of Crysis, Titan's Quest, and now even John Carmack and ID software express they are switching their focus to consoles primarily because PC games just aren't selling anymore."

"Console sales and gaming is wiping the floor with PC's and all the evidence supports this."

The Last line is ownage for the thread

IgGy621985

Well, I'm a PC gamer and he's right. Something needs to be done with the PC gaming industry.

console games have been out selling PC games for a while now.

It has to do with the fact that consoles appeal to the majority because they are so simple.

The only way to make PCs as popular is to make them as user friendly as a console

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#104 AnnoyedDragon
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console games have been out selling PC games for a while now.

It has to do with the fact that consoles appeal to the majority because they are so simple.

The only way to make PCs as popular is to make them as user friendly as a console

swazidoughman

Which would kill the main appeal of PC gaming, which are the features made possible because of its complexity and openness.

As far as I'm concerned this is a pop vs wine situation, pop sells more but no one is about to say that is evidence pop is better than wine. If wine wanted to sell as much as pop it would have to deteriorate itself into mass produced crap, selling as much as pop but losing its main appeal in the process.

I'm happy with PC gaming being a premium product, it's not going to be as popular as a mainstream product but there are advantages to that. 

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#105 naval
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lol, a random forum post .. this is pretty desperate
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#106 Makari
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[QUOTE="Danm_999"]So why then, might this poster be seeing fewer retail PC games? Digital Distribution has explains this. Fewer retail stores are going to bother stocking PC games, most dedicated PC gamers will simply log onto D2D or Steam to get their software, since its a much more efficient and safe service. If I break my disk with a retail copy, I have to rebuy the product. With a Steam account, I always have access to the software once paying for it. The problem is actually sources like the NPD don't know how to accurately measure digital distribution.

The thing about digital distribution is that it's still being dominated overall by retail sales, even for pc games. If you go and read the stats from... IIRC it was the PCGA talking about how healthy the platform was, it was something like 3:1 for retail vs. digital, and that's including a lot of big-selling digital-only titles like casual games that we don't factor into our estimation of the industry. For most big ticket games, retail sales are still the main event.
look up Activision/Blizzard + Piracy in google you will probably have a list of hits a mile long.....Ilikemyname420
Yeah, this took about five seconds.
"The thing that I think helps us, is that since our games have such a huge multiplayer component, Battle.net really is our most effective DRM. If you wanna play online on Battle.net with other players you're going to have to have a legitimate copy. That's really kinda been the thing that's always saved us from a lot of the PC piracy that I think hurts a lot of other single-player-only games." said Pardo in an interview with Wired.Wired
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#107 iam2green
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i have to say it isn't dieing. ther r a lot of people who buy games for the PC. that article is kind of stupid saying that pc is dieing all together. people still buy monitors that are big like the recording industry. they have like 32" monitors for recording.
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#108 Bebi_vegeta
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[QUOTE="yoyo462001"][QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

 

They never said anything about Piracy... self-owned!Gamingcucumber

lol blizzard havnt said anything about piracy. and people here need to learn what facts are because a few devs say something DOES NOT make it FACT.

The reason why is because of Battlenet which makes Blizzard pretty much imune to piracy. And yes they have hinted at it due to the possible charge of their survice when Starcraft 2 is being released. Why is Blizzard and Valve taking all these safety precautions with WoW and L4D if Piracy isn't a problem? EA even went as far as to implent DRM and removing of LAN Co-Op support for Red Alert 3.

They said nothing about piracy, they even laugh just mentionning piracy.

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#109 Bebi_vegeta
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[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"][QUOTE="jasonheyman"]

 

Crytek, Blizzard more and more of the big wig companies have complained about piracy and are going to make console versions of games. Its on the net I'm sure you can find them

Ilikemyname420

Please find me a link where blizzard complains about piracy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

look up Activision/Blizzard + Piracy in google you will probably have a list of hits a mile long.....

I looked and there was nothing... maybe provide a link if it's so easy.

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#110 Bebi_vegeta
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[QUOTE="IgGy621985"][QUOTE="jasonheyman"]

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The person who wrote this article is a PC gamer himself so read it carefully I will help "highlight" the important lines to back up my arguement!..;)

"Have any of you realized the lack of support for PC products as I have? It seems everywhere I go now the PC sections are getting smaller and smaller."

"So with all the vendors and retailers removing PC stock(including performance parts and hardware) from their shelves where does this leave all of us?? Sure you can say the internet!! But that doesn't help you when even most of our larger sites our trimming down their offerings as well."

"Recent articles involving the makers of Crysis, Titan's Quest, and now even John Carmack and ID software express they are switching their focus to consoles primarily because PC games just aren't selling anymore."

"Console sales and gaming is wiping the floor with PC's and all the evidence supports this."

The Last line is ownage for the thread

swazidoughman

Well, I'm a PC gamer and he's right. Something needs to be done with the PC gaming industry.

console games have been out selling PC games for a while now.

It has to do with the fact that consoles appeal to the majority because they are so simple.

The only way to make PCs as popular is to make them as user friendly as a console

outselling... I beleive Wow is outselling consoles...

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#111 shoeman12
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it's partly because of piracy, or so they say.
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#112 Gamingcucumber
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[QUOTE="Gamingcucumber"][QUOTE="yoyo462001"] lol blizzard havnt said anything about piracy. and people here need to learn what facts are because a few devs say something DOES NOT make it FACT.Bebi_vegeta

 

The reason why is because of Battlenet which makes Blizzard pretty much imune to piracy. And yes they have hinted at it due to the possible charge of their survice when Starcraft 2 is being released. Why is Blizzard and Valve taking all these safety precautions with WoW and L4D if Piracy isn't a problem? EA even went as far as to implent DRM and removing of LAN Co-Op support for Red Alert 3.

They said nothing about piracy, they even laugh just mentionning piracy.

They laugh at it? Oh really? Explain why they are taking such safety procurations then? Just for fun? Yeah, I really don't think that most of the developers think of piracy as a joke. That's like saying that the music industry hasn't changed because of people downloading.

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#113 Bebi_vegeta
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[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"][QUOTE="Gamingcucumber"]

 

The reason why is because of Battlenet which makes Blizzard pretty much imune to piracy. And yes they have hinted at it due to the possible charge of their survice when Starcraft 2 is being released. Why is Blizzard and Valve taking all these safety precautions with WoW and L4D if Piracy isn't a problem? EA even went as far as to implent DRM and removing of LAN Co-Op support for Red Alert 3.

Gamingcucumber

They said nothing about piracy, they even laugh just mentionning piracy.

They laugh at it? Oh really? Explain why they are taking such safety procurations then? Just for fun? Yeah, I really don't think that most of the developers think of piracy as a joke. That's like saying that the music industry hasn't changed because of people downloading.

Well maybe not laught about it lol.

But I'll tell, we never hear them blaming piracy because there games werent succesfull.

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#115 Danm_999
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[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"][QUOTE="Gamingcucumber"]

 

The reason why is because of Battlenet which makes Blizzard pretty much imune to piracy. And yes they have hinted at it due to the possible charge of their survice when Starcraft 2 is being released. Why is Blizzard and Valve taking all these safety precautions with WoW and L4D if Piracy isn't a problem? EA even went as far as to implent DRM and removing of LAN Co-Op support for Red Alert 3.

Gamingcucumber

They said nothing about piracy, they even laugh just mentionning piracy.

They laugh at it? Oh really? Explain why they are taking such safety procurations then? Just for fun? Yeah, I really don't think that most of the developers think of piracy as a joke. That's like saying that the music industry hasn't changed because of people downloading.

The point is, Blizzard aren't abandoning the PC and moving to console only development like the TC suggested.
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#116 Danm_999
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[QUOTE="Makari"]
look up Activision/Blizzard + Piracy in google you will probably have a list of hits a mile long.....Ilikemyname420
Yeah, this took about five seconds.
"The thing that I think helps us, is that since our games have such a huge multiplayer component, Battle.net really is our most effective DRM. If you wanna play online on Battle.net with other players you're going to have to have a legitimate copy. That's really kinda been the thing that's always saved us from a lot of the PC piracy that I think hurts a lot of other single-player-only games." said Pardo in an interview with Wired.Wired

Yep, kind of destroys the TC's point Blizzard is jumping to console only development. Their concerned about piracy (how couldn't they be), but their solution isn't to cut and run from the market.
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#117 Gamingcucumber
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[QUOTE="Gamingcucumber"][QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

 

They said nothing about piracy, they even laugh just mentionning piracy.Danm_999

They laugh at it? Oh really? Explain why they are taking such safety procurations then? Just for fun? Yeah, I really don't think that most of the developers think of piracy as a joke. That's like saying that the music industry hasn't changed because of people downloading.

The point is, Blizzard aren't abandoning the PC and moving to console only development like the TC suggested.

Of course not. They are one of the very few PC exclusive developers that actually make a buck on the platform *cough WoW*. There really isn't any reason for them to bother with console ports since they nowadays are monthly leeching of the entire PC market (excluding The Sims consumers).

But let's speculate IF Blizzarde are starting to charge for BattleNET...well...go figure...

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#118 Bebi_vegeta
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[QUOTE="Danm_999"][QUOTE="Gamingcucumber"]

 

They laugh at it? Oh really? Explain why they are taking such safety procurations then? Just for fun? Yeah, I really don't think that most of the developers think of piracy as a joke. That's like saying that the music industry hasn't changed because of people downloading.

Gamingcucumber

The point is, Blizzard aren't abandoning the PC and moving to console only development like the TC suggested.

Of course not. They are one of the very few PC exclusive developers that actually make a buck on the platform *cough WoW*. There really isn't any reason for them to bother with console ports since they nowadays are monthly leeching of the entire PC market (excluding The Sims consumers).

But let's speculate IF Blizzarde are starting to charge for BattleNET...well...go figure...

It will be just like when Microsoft charges for live... funny enough, it's free for PC users.