PC gaming is alot cheaper than consoles

Think bout it, i bet at least 99% of people using this board are using a PC to use this site, i think the average cost of standard PCs here in the UK is £400-£500? Then you go and spend another £280 (PS3 price for example) on a console. Thats at least £680 now. You can get a custom built pc with much better parts for the same price as places like PC world, even cheaper if you build it yourself. Not to mention the standard price for PC games is about £25 where as console games are £40.

PC

Good 1680x1050 TFT £150

5 year future proof rig £500 (even after that the only expensive upgrades are CPU and GPU, new consoles coming out after that much time will cost more than upgraded hardware)

Games £25

=£650 + £25 each game

Console

HDTV 32" (as most people have 32" it seems) £500 for good brand

Console £180 - £300

Games £40

= £800 (PS3) + £40 each game

The price of console games alone make it far more expensive than PC gaming in the long run.

I have a a decent PC and a 32" HDTV with a 360, i much prefer PC gaming and it does work out cheaper, but the problem is the PC game market is getting slower and slower with little good exclusives and watered down console ports.

No it isn't.

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Im using a laptop.

Im using a laptop.

milsvaard

why do we get these threads every day? its not but the phrase 'you get what you pay for' comes to mind with the fact that the PC is quite superior to consolesshadow_hosi

agreed. Although I prefer consoles, it's surprising how people try to argue the opposite.

[QUOTE="milsvaard"]

Im using a laptop.

shadow_hosi

Mine is

< 3

But i'm a rich bastage and i like shiny things.

Also the OS.

I mean seriously NeXTSTEP was the awesome and OS X just improved upon it.

Console

HDTV 32"

TnR_eclipse

PC gaming isn't a cheap as console gaming is, but at the same time, it isn't as expensive as everyone thinks.

Think bout it, i bet at least 99% of people using this board are using a PC to use this site, i think the average cost of standard PCs here in the UK is £400-£500? Then you go and spend another £280 (PS3 price for example) on a console. Thats at least £680 now. You can get a custom built pc with much better parts for the same price as places like PC world, even cheaper if you build it yourself. Not to mention the standard price for PC games is about £25 where as console games are £40.

PC

Good 1680x1050 TFT £150

5 year future proof rig £500 (even after that the only expensive upgrades are CPU and GPU, new consoles coming out after that much time will cost more than upgraded hardware)

Games £25

=£650 + £25 each game

Console

HDTV 32" (as most people have 32" it seems) £500 for good brand

Console £180 - £300

Games £40

= £800 (PS3) + £40 each game

The price of console games alone make it far more expensive than PC gaming in the long run.

I have a a decent PC and a 32" HDTV with a 360, i much prefer PC gaming and it does work out cheaper, but the problem is the PC game market is getting slower and slower with little good exclusives and watered down console ports.

TnR_eclipse

It is actually a lot cheaper if you consider how huge its library is, which is filled with both indie and mainstream games. You can find many games at $20 or less that are new and even expensive titles are no more than $49.99, whereas every Wii game that is new most likely costs $49.99 (not less) and every PS3/360 game costs $60, for the most part.

The fact that the PC is the biggest media experience, with movies, music, video games, internet, etc. Also, there are plenty of free games to go around, so I guess you can say that it makes it a lot cheaper than consoles.

Oh, and a PC gamer does not need to follow the graphics/hardware race, so that makes PC gaming a lot cheaper.

PC gaming is cheaper but you're looking at it the wrong way, PC gaming is very popular in Russia and Eastern Europe because it's cheaper than console gaming but they tend to play different games with lower specsmarkop2003

Classic console gaming and the PS2.

Argument invalidated.

(< 3 Voltaire quote though)

No it isn't. I just upgraded to a 4890 for $290... thats enough to buy a Wii and a cheaper game.

It is possible to rent PC games yet?

meh who cares? buy em all that way you never miss out :-D

seriously though, i prefer my 360, but then again im not into rts so much

No doubt that PC games tend to be cheaper from $10 - $30 for new releases, but if there is someone that doesn't have a clue on how to build a PC then a purchase wouldmaybe more than a console.

It is possible to rent PC games yet?

LosDaddie

The only reason why console gaming was ever invented is because many people wanted better graphics and knew that they couldn't get it from a PC, due to the high costs of building a rig. Other than that, the PC covers every genre of video games and has still seen a lot more innovation than console gaming, if you include indie gaming and mainstream gaming versus console gaming's very small list of indie titles and many mainstream games that are not very innovative at all. And remember that the PC can play almost every past title of its kind, so you can experience every revolutionary title that has ever come out for the PC.

This pretty much puts this argument to rest since a lot of people only talk about how expensive it is to build a PC, not looking at the fact that you can use your PC in its original condition.

[QUOTE="LosDaddie"]

It is possible to rent PC games yet?

Mawy_Golomb

And what games would that be?

[QUOTE="Mawy_Golomb"][QUOTE="LosDaddie"]

It is possible to rent PC games yet?

LosDaddie

And what games would that be?

Battlefield Heroes?

Internet ones, duh. You can play Tetris, Bejeweled, Dwarf Fortress, Armadillo Run, etc. all for free. Most of them are unfamiliar and indie ones, though. But at least indie gaming is far more innovative than mainstream gaming. Mawy_Golomb

So, not big-budget games like MW2, AssCreed2, MEffect2, andL4D2?

[QUOTE="Mawy_Golomb"]Internet ones, duh. You can play Tetris, Bejeweled, Dwarf Fortress, Armadillo Run, etc. all for free. Most of them are unfamiliar and indie ones, though. But at least indie gaming is far more innovative than mainstream gaming. LosDaddie

So, not big-budget games like MW2, AssCreed2, MEffect2, andL4D2?

Do some research on the video games industry because I have already done a lot of it. It seems to me that you don't know so much about it.

Who gives a crap about AAA-titles. Mawy_Golomb

I do :)

So, not big-budget games like MW2, AssCreed2, MEffect2, andL4D2?

LosDaddie

None of those titles are free on consoles.

You can get free to play MMOs for free.

You can get ad supported big name games.

Yes you can get a lot of free games on PC.

And a lot of them are in fact good.

But PC gaming is not cheaper :P

So you don't like indie titles at all?

Although renting is not available for the PC, it doesn't mean that you can rent games for free. Even if you were to rent every title on every console, there are still way too many free games and really old cheap games to go around on the PC, that it would not make console gaming any cheaper.

[QUOTE="LosDaddie"]

So, not big-budget games like MW2, AssCreed2, MEffect2, andL4D2?

Irick_cb

None of those titles are free on consoles.

Correct, but you can rent them on consoles.

Who gives a crap about AAA-titles? Just because a game developer puts out $50 million or more, and another one puts in less than a $1 million, that does not make the one who spent the most money any better. Compare Halo 3 to Katamari Damacy and you will see that the latter is more innovative and polished. Besides, most AAA-budget (mainstream) games use most of their money towards marketing and graphics. Even putting in the music costs a lot more than creating the gameplay.

Do some research on the video games industry because I have already done a lot of it. It seems to me that you don't know so much about it.

Mawy_Golomb

This is a really poorly formed argument.

It is mainly "Games cost Money and you don't know what you are talking about!!!111"

Don't get defensive so quickly man.

[QUOTE="Irick_cb"]

[QUOTE="LosDaddie"]

So, not big-budget games like MW2, AssCreed2, MEffect2, andL4D2?

LosDaddie

None of those titles are free on consoles.

Correct, but you can rent them on consoles.

Although renting is not available for the PC, it doesn't mean that you can rent games for free. .

Mawy_Golomb

I never said renting games was free on consoles. But it is a fact that renting games on consoles is cheaper than buying them on PCs. Thus, your argument for games being cheaper on console has been completely nullified :)

And indie games are OK, but I prefer big-budget, AAA games

Okay, let me make my final argument. If you don't buy a single console, and play many games lower than $10 and many demos as well as free titles, and if you don't build a rig PC, it will still be a lot cheaper than for someone to play games on the PC and on a console, which I'm sure many people do. It is still a lot cheaper to own a PC, than if you were to buy a console and not own a PC at all.

And if you include how much backwards compatibility is available to the PC than there is to a console (even the Wii), the PC still holds up a lot better. Sure, there are MMOs, which cost lots of money, but the PC's advantage is that there are so many more options.

You don't have to play MMOs, you don't have to buy any games (even could play demos of titles instead), you don't need a rig.....the list goes on.

Correct, but you can rent them on consoles.

LosDaddie

This really isn't a good point.

PC hashttp://www.gametap.com/

No it isn't. I just upgraded to a 4890 for $290... thats enough to buy a Wii and a cheaper game.

Wasdie

[QUOTE="LosDaddie"]

[QUOTE="Irick_cb"]

None of those titles are free on consoles.

Wasdie

Correct, but you can rent them on consoles.

I've rented a ton of games this gen that I'm glad I didn't buy. There are very few games I consider worth $60 these days.

Plus, I'm not a collector. So owning a massive game collection means nothing to me. I regularly trade-in old games for new games since I know I'll never play them again.

[QUOTE="LosDaddie"]

Correct, but you can rent them on consoles.

Irick_cb

This really isn't a good point.

PC hashttp://www.gametap.com/

Unless you can rent new big-budget games from GAmeTap, my point remains valid :)

Oh, and developing games for the PC is a lot easier, not to mention a lot cheaper than to do so for a console, so that really makes a huge difference for the PC. We're not just talking about playing games on the PC & on consoles, but rather, about what goes into gaming as a whole, meaning the costs that go into the software, hardware, marketing, etc.

[QUOTE="Irick_cb"]

[QUOTE="LosDaddie"]

Correct, but you can rent them on consoles.

LosDaddie

This really isn't a good point.

PC hashttp://www.gametap.com/

Unless you can rent new big-budget games from GAmeTap, my point remains valid :)

Can you play old big budget games for free?

Free is cheeper then renting.

I tried arguing aginst this a while back but tbh the TC is right.

One person here was saying how he built a PC for around £400 which could play crysis on high settings.

Which is cheaper than what i paid for my ps3 at launch.

A huge advantage of PC's is that you are allowed to shop around for the best deals. With a console prices are very much fixed though you can get exactly what you want yourself and use sites like ebay to get better deals.

but yeah, £400 for a crysis playing pc, tbh next gen whilst I will get a console I might just get one and then get a high end pc. Since many exclusives for the 360 end up on the PC if i got a playstation it would just be for exclusives.

And its just got so much more freedom. You choose your controller, mod games and graphical settings, and theres really cool hardware pieces out there to enhance certain game types.

[QUOTE="LosDaddie"]

[QUOTE="Irick_cb"]

This really isn't a good point.

PC hashttp://www.gametap.com/

Irick_cb

Unless you can rent new big-budget games from GAmeTap, my point remains valid :)

Can you play old big budget games for free?

Sorry, but I won't allow you to divert the conversation. Nice try though. Might have worked on another user, but not me :)

We are talking about new games here. I don't care about old games from last gen & beyond.

HDTV 32" (as most people have 32" it seems) £500 for good brand

TnR_eclipse

About 30 seconds of searching saves about £170, putting it below your PC total.

But just out of curiosity, let's see this, "5 year future proof rig £500".

PC gaming isn't a cheap as console gaming is, but at the same time, it isn't as expensive as everyone thinks.

Legendaryscmt

With games on average being about 20$ cheaper, if you buy a lot of games it's many times cheaper.

[QUOTE="Irick_cb"]

[QUOTE="LosDaddie"]

Unless you can rent new big-budget games from GAmeTap, my point remains valid :)

LosDaddie

Can you play old big budget games for free?

Sorry, but I won't allow you to divert the conversation. Nice try though. Might have worked on another user, but not me :)

We are talking about new games here. I don't care about old games from last gen & beyond.

I like how you think you control the flow of conversation.

It's cute.

One person here was saying how he built a PC for around £400 which could play crysis on high settings.

NinjaMunkey01

I'd love to see proof of that claim.

[QUOTE="Irick_cb"]

[QUOTE="LosDaddie"]

Unless you can rent new big-budget games from GAmeTap, my point remains valid :)

LosDaddie

Can you play old big budget games for free?

Sorry, but I won't allow you to divert the conversation. Nice try though. Might have worked on another user, but not me :)

We are talking about new games here. I don't care about old games from last gen & beyond.

You're not a real gamer then, in my opinion.

[QUOTE="Legendaryscmt"]

PC gaming isn't a cheap as console gaming is, but at the same time, it isn't as expensive as everyone thinks.

Nokanhav

With games on average being about 20$ cheaper, if you buy a lot of games it's many times cheaper.

And if you rent a lot of games, console gaming is many times cheaper :)

[QUOTE="LosDaddie"]

[QUOTE="Irick_cb"]

Can you play old big budget games for free?

Nokanhav

Sorry, but I won't allow you to divert the conversation. Nice try though. Might have worked on another user, but not me :)

We are talking about new games here. I don't care about old games from last gen & beyond.

You're not a real gamer then, in my opinion.

And your opinion means nothing to me. :)