PC gaming is alot cheaper than consoles

*Sigh* you switch between saying "Yeah just current gen!!!" then this? Give it up, you seem to forget how much old computer equipment gets given away :PBoloTheGreat

Free = Free.

Neither is cheeper if we bring it back to that point.

Your argument, she is still invalid.

[QUOTE="BoloTheGreat"]*Sigh* you switch between saying "Yeah just current gen!!!" then this? Give it up, you seem to forget how much old computer equipment gets given away :PIrick_cb

Free = Free.

Neither is cheeper if we bring it back to that point.

Your argument, she is still invalid.

[QUOTE="NinjaMunkey01"] , what is annoying right now though is that your not accepting that Im not going to prove my point for youLosDaddie

When you first made the claim, I knew you weren't able to back it up. The rest of this convo has been for my lulz :)

[QUOTE="NinjaMunkey01"]read the OP, its pretty obvious we were always talking about current gen gaming.Irick_cb

and consoles are still cheeper.

Weird post to quote for that point.

You said current gen, I showed you an example of current gen and you promptly bring up the NES. Its just silly. PC isn't cheaper than console gaming if we are using like for like i agree but your arguments have been rambling and filled with contradictions, falsehoods and blatant ignorance. BoloTheGreat

You brought up indy developers.

my NES statement was a tongue in cheek mockery of the point.

That point is easily countered by brining up console homebrew, which can be countered by bringing up the user's level of proficiency, which can be countered by pointing out that the only way PC gaming could be cheeper is assuming a level of user hardware proficiency, which leads up back to the start.

That point will not win you this this debate.

I suggest we avoid these pitfalls :P

Free = Free.

[QUOTE="Irick_cb"]

[QUOTE="NinjaMunkey01"]read the OP, its pretty obvious we were always talking about current gen gaming.NinjaMunkey01

and consoles are still cheeper.

Weird post to quote for that point.

Oh defiantly.

I don't try to change people's minds.

I'm just having fun.

, what is annoying right now though is that your not accepting that Im not going to prove my point for youNinjaMunkey01

When you first made the claim, I knew you weren't able to back it up. The rest of this convo has been for my lulz :)

[QUOTE="BoloTheGreat"]You said current gen, I showed you an example of current gen and you promptly bring up the NES. Its just silly. PC isn't cheaper than console gaming if we are using like for like i agree but your arguments have been rambling and filled with contradictions, falsehoods and blatant ignorance. Irick_cb

You brought up indy developers.

my NES statement was a tongue in cheek mockery of the point.

That point is easily countered by brining up console homebrew, which can be countered by bringing up the user's level of proficiency, which can be countered by pointing out that the only way PC gaming could be cheeper is assuming a level of user hardware proficiency, which leads up back to the start.

That point will not win you this this debate.

I suggest we avoid these pitfalls :P

Free = Free.

[QUOTE="NinjaMunkey01"][QUOTE="LosDaddie"]

When you first made the claim, I knew you weren't able to back it up. The rest of this convo has been for my lulz :)

NinjaMunkey01

You quoted yourself? :lol: :lol:

That $500 PC doesn't include the OS or a KB&M. And that article was posted in 2009, making that $500 PC still $100 more than the PS3 and $200 more than the Pro X360.

YOu tried, I'll give ya that. But you still failed :)

[QUOTE="NinjaMunkey01"][QUOTE="LosDaddie"]

When you first made the claim, I knew you weren't able to back it up. The rest of this convo has been for my lulz :)

NinjaMunkey01

I call BS on the 1080p claim, but everything else checks out

http://www.hardocp.com/article.html?art=MTU1OCwzLCxoZW50aHVzaWFzdA==

Like i said before i thought it was possible.

But i don't trust the quality of any of those parts.

Enough with this argument about which is cheaper. I've now thought a lot harder about it, and I would like to say that it all varies. You can say that a PC rig will cost more than a console, but then you can counter the argument with something else. Neither is really better than the other, really. The PC and the console have their own flaws. PC/>Console Console/>PC

Console gaming is less complicated.aero250

You quoted yourself? :lol: :lol:

That $500 PC doesn't include the OS or a KB&M. And that article was posted in 2009, making that $500 PC still $100 more than the PS3 and $200 more than the Pro X360.

YOu tried, I'll give ya that. But you still failed :)

LosDaddie

He didn't fail.

Your challenge was find a rig under 650$

Which he did.

[QUOTE="NinjaMunkey01"][QUOTE="NinjaMunkey01"] yeah alright, to shut you up then: http://www.kotaku.com.au/2009/04/a-500-pc-that-can-kick-crysis-ass/ In 2007 that equates to roughly £250 cheaper than a ps3, and cheaper than a launch 360. I could buy one, mport it to the Uk and there we go. Couldnt be bothered with working it out myself but luckily kokatu found something which did it and at the price I wanted... Ok am i being left alone now??? =PLosDaddie

You quoted yourself? :lol: :lol:

That $500 PC doesn't include the OS or a KB&M. And that article was posted in 2009, making that $500 PC still $100 more than the PS3 and $200 more than the Pro X360.

YOu tried, I'll give ya that. But you still failed :)

In the UK it would be approx £300. and if you go for some second hand parts or shop around I bet you could get it cheaper. Then throw in no live costs, and cheaper games, its definately cheaper.NinjaMunkey01

No it's cheep.

But it is not cheeper then console gaming.

The live argument is invalid, see "PS3 still costs more then the 360", ref: every lemming ever.

[QUOTE="LosDaddie"]

[QUOTE="NinjaMunkey01"] ... ... ... ... ITS OVER!!!!!!! :lol:NinjaMunkey01

You quoted yourself? :lol: :lol:

That $500 PC doesn't include the OS or a KB&M. And that article was posted in 2009, making that $500 PC still $100 more than the PS3 and $200 more than the Pro X360.

YOu tried, I'll give ya that. But you still failed :)

Now that you have the parts, provide links to the hardware with UK pricing to see if it would be £300. And don't forget to include pricing for the OS and KB&M.

And PC games may be cheaper, but you still can't rent them. Thus, either games' cost is equal, or cheaper on consoles.

[QUOTE="NinjaMunkey01"][QUOTE="LosDaddie"]

You quoted yourself? :lol: :lol:

That $500 PC doesn't include the OS or a KB&M. And that article was posted in 2009, making that $500 PC still $100 more than the PS3 and $200 more than the Pro X360.

YOu tried, I'll give ya that. But you still failed :)

LosDaddie

Now that you have the parts, provide links to the hardware with UK pricing to see if it would be £300. And don't forget to include pricing for the OS and KB&M.

And PC games may be cheaper, but you still can't rent them. Thus, either games' cost is equal, or cheaper on consoles.

Personally I thiknk it would be cheaper just to get it shipped over. Also whilst you cant really rent games, there are services where you pay a monthly fee, and play whatever you want.

http://go.metaboli.co.uk/?gclid=CNeRtqmyyZsCFVUA4wodOVegKQ

Much cheaper than buying whole disks. starts at less than £7 a month... And at the end of the day whilst for that amount stated you can get a crysis ready PC, you could just get a pc marginally better than a ps3 cheaper.

and tbh Im done with this, Ive given you proof, thats it. Most people ahve their own keyboard and mouse anyway...

Too much time on gamespot, Im going on facebook =P

[QUOTE="LosDaddie"]

[QUOTE="Irick_cb"]

Can you play old big budget games for free?

Nokanhav

Sorry, but I won't allow you to divert the conversation. Nice try though. Might have worked on another user, but not me :)

We are talking about new games here. I don't care about old games from last gen & beyond.

You're not a real gamer then, in my opinion.

[QUOTE="NinjaMunkey01"]In the UK it would be approx £300. and if you go for some second hand parts or shop around I bet you could get it cheaper. Then throw in no live costs, and cheaper games, its definately cheaper.Irick_cb

No it's cheep.

But it is not cheeper then console gaming.

The live argument is invalid, see "PS3 still costs more then the 360", ref: every lemming ever.

Wow I can't believe how people are trying to brag about how cheap their system is :?

What's next ? They'll brag about how cheap their clothes, etc are ? :lol:

In the UK it would be approx £300. and if you go for some second hand parts or shop around I bet you could get it cheaper. Then throw in no live costs, and cheaper games, its definately cheaper.NinjaMunkey01

No it's cheep.

But it is not cheeper then console gaming.

The live argument is invalid, see "PS3 still costs more then the 360", ref: every lemming ever.

and tbh Im done with this, Ive given you proof, thats it. Most people ahve their own keyboard and mouse anyway...

NinjaMunkey01

[QUOTE="NinjaMunkey01"]

and tbh Im done with this, Ive given you proof, thats it. Most people ahve their own keyboard and mouse anyway...

HuusAsking

[QUOTE="Irick_cb"]

[QUOTE="NinjaMunkey01"]In the UK it would be approx £300. and if you go for some second hand parts or shop around I bet you could get it cheaper. Then throw in no live costs, and cheaper games, its definately cheaper.Vandalvideo

No it's cheep.

But it is not cheeper then console gaming.

The live argument is invalid, see "PS3 still costs more then the 360", ref: every lemming ever.

[QUOTE="HuusAsking"]

[QUOTE="NinjaMunkey01"]

and tbh Im done with this, Ive given you proof, thats it. Most people ahve their own keyboard and mouse anyway...

Vandalvideo

Think bout it, i bet at least 99% of people using this board are using a PC to use this site, i think the average cost of standard PCs here in the UK is £400-£500? Then you go and spend another £280 (PS3 price for example) on a console. Thats at least £680 now. You can get a custom built pc with much better parts for the same price as places like PC world, even cheaper if you build it yourself. Not to mention the standard price for PC games is about £25 where as console games are £40.

PC

Good 1680x1050 TFT £150

5 year future proof rig £500 (even after that the only expensive upgrades are CPU and GPU, new consoles coming out after that much time will cost more than upgraded hardware)

Games £25

=£650 + £25 each game

Console

HDTV 32" (as most people have 32" it seems) £500 for good brand

Console £180 - £300

Games £40

= £800 (PS3) + £40 each game

The price of console games alone make it far more expensive than PC gaming in the long run.

I have a a decent PC and a 32" HDTV with a 360, i much prefer PC gaming and it does work out cheaper, but the problem is the PC game market is getting slower and slower with little good exclusives and watered down console ports.

TnR_eclipse

Either way, I would still take PC over all three consoles combined.

[QUOTE="NinjaMunkey01"]

and tbh Im done with this, Ive given you proof, thats it. Most people ahve their own keyboard and mouse anyway...

[QUOTE="NinjaMunkey01"]

and tbh Im done with this, Ive given you proof, thats it. Most people ahve their own keyboard and mouse anyway...

and tbh Im done with this, Ive given you proof, thats it. Most people ahve their own keyboard and mouse anyway...

NinjaMunkey01

You haven't given proof. That Kotaku article didn't include costs for the OS or KB&M. And regardless if people have their own KB&M, you still need to add the cost to the PC's price.....along with the OS' price too.

The only thing you guys have done is prove that PC gaming is still more expensive than console gaming. Not MUCH more expensive, but still more expensive nonetheless. :)

But hey, just like XBL vs PSN; Being more expensive isn't necessarly a bad thing when the more expensive thing is superior.

Anyway, if you really want an apples-to-apples comparison, find a good cheap prebuilt PC, since like consoles they only require minimal assembly (plus most don't come with monitors, just as consoles don't come with TVs).HuusAsking

That's a damn good point. :)