PC gaming is much cheaper than console gaming (re-done)

i spent 2 g's on my first pc (which is now my backup) when it first came out, it has a 640gb hd, a 8800gtx, quad core, 4 gigs ddr2 (800 mhz) good soundcard (this is including a 21" monitor and surround sound, dvd burner etc etc) obviously it was still expensive for what it was (i bought a prebuilt and replaced the video card) but my ps3 and my 32" tv cost a totall of $1100. yes the pc is more powerful but the ps3 and tv was still cheaper.

btw, im reading this now on my tv in my living room :D

z4twenny

When did you buy it?

Getting a PC is a lot of money man.

like $2000 for a high end PC.

but the games are just as Cheap as Wii games.

[QUOTE="skrat_01"][QUOTE="chaplainDMK"]

Who you trying to fool here? In 2007 a 8800 GT + Quad core would alone cost you 800$+... Actualy, if you have that rig that you have in your sig, i'd say you coughed up round 1200$ on it, just for the computer.

chaplainDMK

Q6600 Quad Core processor

8800 GT 512MB - http://computers.pricegrabber.com/video-cards/BFG-Technologies-Geforce-8800-GT/m57161357.html/search=8800+GT/st=product/sv=image
(sry, glitcspot is at it again)

Those 2 alone TODAY cost 350$ at the cheapest. 2 years ago the 8800 GT cost 300-400$ and quad cores were also round 400$. Unless you got a huge deal on that, your lying.

$300-400??? ahhahahah if you paid that much for a 8800gt you got ripped off considering it debuted under $300 at $200-250

the q6600 also was less than $400

your ability to get ripped off doesnt make something expensive.

[QUOTE="skrat_01"][QUOTE="chaplainDMK"]

Who you trying to fool here? In 2007 a 8800 GT + Quad core would alone cost you 800$+... Actualy, if you have that rig that you have in your sig, i'd say you coughed up round 1200$ on it, just for the computer.

chaplainDMK

Q6600 Quad Core processor

8800 GT 512MB - http://computers.pricegrabber.com/video-cards/BFG-Technologies-Geforce-8800-GT/m57161357.html/search=8800+GT/st=product/sv=image
(sry, glitcspot is at it again)

Those 2 alone TODAY cost 350$ at the cheapest. 2 years ago the 8800 GT cost 300-400$ and quad cores were also round 400$. Unless you got a huge deal on that, your lying.

Question is do you know. or remember how much a PS3 even cost here in 2007?

Do you know which local computer retailer I bought my hardware at?

What I do certainly remember is how much I paid for my system, doesn't matter if you want to think I am lying to prove a point that was already littered with poor bais, my system and money I put down for it stands - and your thoughts don't change anything.

If you are going to try and 'prove me to be lying' then you should at least take a different approach in arguing.

[QUOTE="chaplainDMK"]

[QUOTE="skrat_01"] Trying to fool no one it cost as much as PS3 here, being Australia, in 2007 Complain as much as you like thats what I got my system for; keeping in mind by your own completely bias free logic I *should not be able to play new games on this system*, due to it being so outdated. Yup goodbye to games and oh the steep pricing. Try and be the least bit realistic when making assumptions.skrat_01

Q6600 Quad Core processor

8800 GT 512MB - http://computers.pricegrabber.com/video-cards/BFG-Technologies-Geforce-8800-GT/m57161357.html/search=8800+GT/st=product/sv=image
(sry, glitcspot is at it again)

Those 2 alone TODAY cost 350$ at the cheapest. 2 years ago the 8800 GT cost 300-400$ and quad cores were also round 400$. Unless you got a huge deal on that, your lying.

Question is do you know. or remember how much a PS3 even cost here in 2007?

Do you know which local computer retailer I bought my hardware at?

What I do certainly remember is how much I paid for my system, doesn't matter if you want to think I am lying to prove a point that was already littered with poor bais, my system and money I put down for it stands - and your thoughts don't change anything.

If you are going to try and 'prove me to be lying' then you should at least take a different approach in arguing.

Q6600 Quad debuted at 850$, in december 2007 it cost 400$ if you got a good deal.
A 8800 GT 512 MB cost - 240$
Motherboard - 200$
4 GB of ram - 100-150$
OS - 100$
Sound, network card - 100$
Mouse, keyboard, speakers - 100-150$
Screen - 200$
For a total of betwen 1600 and 1700$.
PS3 was 400-500$, X360 was 300-400$. Eaven if you buy a 1000$ TV with a PS3 it would have come cheaper.

I dont care if you got a massive deal, thats how much these parts would cost you in 2007 probably.
Today you could probably make a 800$ PC run modern games. But console costs 300$ today.

[QUOTE="iliatay"]

alright since the last thread conoslites werent understanding it fully, here it goes again: pc gaming is much cheaper;

pc: about $800 including moniter speakers and everything which will still blow consoles out of the water + games at release cost $50 in steam and as low as $2

console: $300 + $1300 for t.v.+ $80 for games at release ($69.99 + %13 tax)

(and i know what consolite r gonna say "buh buh evry onez haz a t.v.'z" well everyone has to have a computer. i mean how are u even viewing this thread right now?)

obviously u can see that pc is cheaper, heck even if u upgrade $100 bucks a year, it will still be cheaper

so please, in the future, please do not play that old "pc gaming costs $5345 and consoles cost $300!!!" card again because U R WRONG!

789shadow

You need a $1300 TV? What 13% tax?

[QUOTE="rockzo"]

[QUOTE="iliatay"] how much did u pay for a pc game?

iliatay

60$ for MW2 on steam BC2 60$ on steam unless you preorder Star Trek Online 60$ then 140$ per year

What sucks is I REALLY WANT STAR TREK!!!! stupid subscription fees....

PC gaming is cheaper for me. I don't have to pay for online, games are cheaper (unless they are consolized, like MW2), I don't have to buy a new $400 console every couple of years, i don't have to buy a $700 HDTV to play my games at "high res", and accessories are cheaper. Not only that, but I can do a ton more with a PC than a console.

Q6600 Quad debuted at 850$, in december 2007 it cost 400$ if you got a good deal.
A 8800 GT 512 MB cost - 240$
Motherboard - 200$
4 GB of ram - 100-150$
OS - 100$
Sound, network card - 100$
Mouse, keyboard, speakers - 100-150$
Screen - 200$
For a total of betwen 1600 and 1700$.
PS3 was 400-500$, X360 was 300-400$. Eaven if you buy a 1000$ TV with a PS3 it would have come cheaper.

I dont care if you got a massive deal, thats how much these parts would cost you in 2007 probably.
Today you could probably make a 800$ PC run modern games. But console costs 300$ today.

chaplainDMK

it did not debute at $850 where the hell are you? it debuted under $400. by $2007 it was under $250

the 8800gt 512mb model was $200

a decent 775 mobo was $100 or less

why would you need a sound and network card when the mobo has that?

mouse keyboard and speakers cost $100-150?

and a monitor is $200

and the consoles dont come with speakers or screens anyways. nor would you need any of those parts to run games better than the consoles.

today you can make a $400 pc that will run games better than the consoles, $800 is overkill.

seriously its not expensive you just got ripped off.

[QUOTE="chaplainDMK"]

Q6600 Quad debuted at 850$, in december 2007 it cost 400$ if you got a good deal.
A 8800 GT 512 MB cost - 240$
Motherboard - 200$
4 GB of ram - 100-150$
OS - 100$
Sound, network card - 100$
Mouse, keyboard, speakers - 100-150$
Screen - 200$
For a total of betwen 1600 and 1700$.
PS3 was 400-500$, X360 was 300-400$. Eaven if you buy a 1000$ TV with a PS3 it would have come cheaper.

I dont care if you got a massive deal, thats how much these parts would cost you in 2007 probably.
Today you could probably make a 800$ PC run modern games. But console costs 300$ today.

washd123

it did not debute at $850 where the hell are you? it debuted under $400. by $2007 it was under $250

the 8800gt 512mb model was $200

a decent 775 mobo was $100 or less

why would you need a sound and network card when the mobo has that?

mouse keyboard and speakers cost $100-150?

and a monitor is $200

and the consoles dont come with speakers or screens anyways. nor would you need any of those parts to run games better than the consoles.

today you can make a $400 pc that will run games better than the consoles, $800 is overkill.

seriously its not expensive you just got ripped off.

As of today, Intel's Core 2 Quad Q6600 carries a list price of $851. Keep in mind this is the price Intel charges its distributors in quantities of 1,000, and not the same as the CPU's street price, which can ultimately prove to be higher or lower.

Link

It's per 1000 price to retailers was over $850. Whether it was sold for that is something else entirely. Unbdoubtedly retailers sold it for more, and some sold it for less.

wouldnt an 800 dollar computer be pretty crappy and not be able to play most of the games at max settings? jw i dont know about this computer nonsense

Pricing

As of today, Intel's Core 2 Quad Q6600 carries a list price of $851. Keep in mind this is the price Intel charges its distributors in quantities of 1,000, and not the same as the CPU's street price, which can ultimately prove to be higher or lower.

Link

It's per 1000 price to retailers was over $850. Whether it was sold for that is something else entirely. Unbdoubtedly retailers sold it for more, and some sold it for less.

lundy86_4

read the rest of it. it was as low as $550 which is what i remember it being. by 2007 it was under $250.

but ultimatly that was pointless why would you need a q6600 its a great proc but the e6600 was just as capable as is the AMD X2 series. all which were priced lower.

wouldnt an 800 dollar computer be pretty crappy and not be able to play most of the games at max settings? jw i dont know about this computer nonsense

jerkface96

a $800 pc would max out any game at 1920x1080

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

Pricing

As of today, Intel's Core 2 Quad Q6600 carries a list price of $851. Keep in mind this is the price Intel charges its distributors in quantities of 1,000, and not the same as the CPU's street price, which can ultimately prove to be higher or lower.

Link

It's per 1000 price to retailers was over $850. Whether it was sold for that is something else entirely. Unbdoubtedly retailers sold it for more, and some sold it for less.

washd123

read the rest of it. it was as low as $550 which is what i remember it being. by 2007 it was under $250.

but ultimatly that was pointless why would you need a q6600 its a great proc but the e6600 was just as capable as is the AMD X2 series. all which were priced lower.

Yes I know. I stated that it was the per 1000 to retailers price, and that retailers could sell it higher or lower.

I guess PC gaming is cheaper if you pirate all your games. PS3 then becomes the most expensive cause one actually has to buy all his/her games...

I guess PC gaming is cheaper if you pirate all your games. PS3 then becomes the most expensive cause one actually has to buy all his/her games...

wouldnt an 800 dollar computer be pretty crappy and not be able to play most of the games at max settings? jw i dont know about this computer nonsense

jerkface96

With a monitor and speakers included, it wouldn't be the best.

For just the tower it would be a higher end mid-range computer capable of running all current releases at reasonable rez.

This thread reminds me of the one about Alienware vs 360/PS3/Wii:x

wouldnt an 800 dollar computer be pretty crappy and not be able to play most of the games at max settings? jw i dont know about this computer nonsense

jerkface96

It depends on how you distribute those $800 dollars on the different parts and where you buy those parts. Being optimistic you should be able to max most games at 1680x1050 or similar/equivalent resolutions. It would only be a crappy PC compared to overall choices of hardware that are available rigth now, but for gaming and average common use it would be more than enough.

[QUOTE="jerkface96"]

wouldnt an 800 dollar computer be pretty crappy and not be able to play most of the games at max settings? jw i dont know about this computer nonsense

glez13

It depends on how you distribute those $800 dollars on the different parts and where you buy those parts. Being optimistic you should be able to max most games at 1680x1050 or similar/equivalent resolutions. It would only be a crappy PC compared to overall choices of hardware that are available rigth now, but for gaming and average common use it would be more than enough.

it really wouldnt be crappy. at all. the tower with mouse and keyboard and even blu-ray, and a 5850, and a AMD phenom II X4 945 4gb of DDR2 1066

is enough to max anything out at 1920x1050 and even 2560x1600.

Alright cool thanks guys haha, Looks like Ill save up for a PC then !

do u prefer high end pc with 2000$ value and upgrading every 3 years, or a normal computer with 1000$ upgrading every 1 year :-?

do u prefer high end pc with 2000$ value and upgrading every 3 years, or a normal computer with 1000$ upgrading every 1 year :-?

Ramtin_LA

You don't really need to upgrade every one year. Hardware has been developing much faster than the software to push it for the last couple years. People are still gaming happily, and well, on an 8800GT.

[QUOTE="00154"][QUOTE="iliatay"]

alright since the last thread conoslites werent understanding it fully, here it goes again: pc gaming is much cheaper;

pc: about $800 including moniter speakers and everything which will still blow consoles out of the water + games at release cost $50 in steam and as low as $2

console: $300 + $1300 for t.v.+ $80 for games at release ($69.99 + %13 tax)

(and i know what consolite r gonna say "buh buh evry onez haz a t.v.'z" well everyone has to have a computer. i mean how are u even viewing this thread right now?)

obviously u can see that pc is cheaper, heck even if u upgrade $100 bucks a year, it will still be cheaper

so please, in the future, please do not play that old "pc gaming costs $5345 and consoles cost $300!!!" card again because U R WRONG!

iliatay

..... What the hell tv is that? $1300? You can get a 37" for like $500... Thats more then enough.. This is coming from a pc gamer, those prices are way off.

do u prefer high end pc with 2000$ value and upgrading every 3 years, or a normal computer with 1000$ upgrading every 1 year :-?

Ramtin_LA

... The one thing I have upgraded in the past 2 to 3 years was my video card.. And I will mos tlikely not need a upgrade for at least 1 to 2 years more by the fact that games don't seem to ever be as demanding as Crysis, a game that was released in 2007.

[QUOTE="iliatay"]

[QUOTE="00154"] you could say the same about how you could buy a HD TV for your pc :) would equal the samesSubZerOo

..... What the hell tv is that? $1300? You can get a 37" for like $500... Thats more then enough.. This is coming from a pc gamer, those prices are way off.

Don't worry. He was corrected. I said you can get a 32" for $500 in Canada, he asked for proof, so I linked him to 4 different TV's :P

Why do we always talk about this? PC gaming is cheaper in the long run and console gameing is cheaper in the short run. Why can't we leave it at that?

do u prefer high end pc with 2000$ value and upgrading every 3 years, or a normal computer with 1000$ upgrading every 1 year :-?

Ramtin_LA

ive had my pc for 7 years now and ive spent under $800 yet i can max out everything at 1920x1080

alright since the last thread conoslites werent understanding it fully, here it goes again: pc gaming is much cheaper;

pc: about $800 including moniter speakers and everything which will still blow consoles out of the water + games at release cost $50 in steam and as low as $2

console: $300 + $300 for t.v.+ $80 for games at release ($69.99 w/o tax because it wasn't included for anything else)

(and i know what consolite r gonna say "buh buh evry onez haz a t.v.'z" well everyone has to have a computer, or a laptop which is completely useless for gaming lol. i mean how are u even viewing this thread right now?)

obviously u can see that pc is cheaper, heck even if u upgrade $100 bucks a year, it will still be cheaper

so please, in the future, please do not play that old "pc gaming costs $5345 and consoles cost $300!!!" card again because U R WRONG!

iliatay

What does your post prove now? :?

I'm not saying console gaming is always cheaper, and it definitely isn't objectively better in some magical way, but there's no hope in trying to convince "consolites" to convert, least of all with the flawed and, quite frankly, false information you provided in the OP.

Belated quote response.

Q6600 Quad debuted at 850$, in december 2007 it cost 400$ if you got a good deal.
A 8800 GT 512 MB cost - 240$
Motherboard - 200$
4 GB of ram - 100-150$
OS - 100$
Sound, network card - 100$
Mouse, keyboard, speakers - 100-150$
Screen - 200$
For a total of betwen 1600 and 1700$.
PS3 was 400-500$, X360 was 300-400$. Eaven if you buy a 1000$ TV with a PS3 it would have come cheaper.

I dont care if you got a massive deal, thats how much these parts would cost you in 2007 probably.
Today you could probably make a 800$ PC run modern games. But console costs 300$ today.

chaplainDMK

I had those when buying my system, and of course consoles do not come with HD TVs and surround sound systems do they?

Also subtract the network card (honestly are you really trying to pad the pricing with a network AND sound card - both of which are redundant? This isn't 1998 ).

Ssubtract the operating system, I simply used the licence I already purchased again.

Now with all that price padding of yours gone also keep in mind these two points.

PS3s here were $700 to $800 AUD. I am guessing you still haven't taken a hint on region pricing differences.
And as far as current price comparisons go keep these in mind.

(TY for the responses covering this)

it did not debute at $850 where the hell are you? it debuted under $400. by $2007 it was under $250

the 8800gt 512mb model was $200

a decent 775 mobo was $100 or less

why would you need a sound and network card when the mobo has that?

mouse keyboard and speakers cost $100-150?

and a monitor is $200

and the consoles dont come with speakers or screens anyways. nor would you need any of those parts to run games better than the consoles.

today you can make a $400 pc that will run games better than the consoles, $800 is overkill.

seriously its not expensive you just got ripped off.

washd123

Pricing

As of today, Intel's Core 2 Quad Q6600 carries a list price of $851. Keep in mind this is the price Intel charges its distributors in quantities of 1,000, and not the same as the CPU's street price, which can ultimately prove to be higher or lower.

Link

It's per 1000 price to retailers was over $850. Whether it was sold for that is something else entirely. Undoubtedly retailers sold it for more, and some sold it for less.

lundy86_4

Aye I most probably bought the Q6600 during its production peak, retailers were competitively pricing them against each other, the 8800GT had also hit the market and had a short price war before the states stock was depleted.

-

Doesn't matter how much you try to estimate and pad what you think is the cost of my setup then, or try and convince yourself how expensive a gaming computer is you're simply wrong and doing a poor job of saying otherwise.

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

Pricing

As of today, Intel's Core 2 Quad Q6600 carries a list price of $851. Keep in mind this is the price Intel charges its distributors in quantities of 1,000, and not the same as the CPU's street price, which can ultimately prove to be higher or lower.

Link

It's per 1000 price to retailers was over $850. Whether it was sold for that is something else entirely. Unbdoubtedly retailers sold it for more, and some sold it for less.

skrat_01

Hmmm, i'm not trying to pad anything. In fact, i'm an advocate of PC gaming, so why would I try to embellish upon the truth? I was simply showing the person I quoted that the Q6600, when released was sold to retailers at around $850 per 1000. However, it doesn't mean they sold them for that.

My bro has a Q6600 and certainly didn't pick it up for that amount, and he got it close to it's release.

Hmmm, i'm not trying to pad anything. In fact, i'm an advocate of PC gaming, so why would I try to embellish upon the truth? I was simply showing the person I quoted that the Q6600, when released was sold to retailers at around $850 per 1000. However, it doesn't mean they sold them for that.

My bro has a Q6600 and certainly didn't pick it up for that amount, and he got it close to it's release.

lundy86_4

I was just re-affirming that you pointed out prices changes (to chaplainDMK), using that to indicate there is a difference between the current price and the one I bought it at - and i was being a bit arrogant about it.

So, who here is willing to trade me their rig for my dog?

(he's a 7 month old Chiuaua-Jack Russel mut :P)

wouldnt an 800 dollar computer be pretty crappy and not be able to play most of the games at max settings? jw i dont know about this computer nonsense

jerkface96

do u prefer high end pc with 2000$ value and upgrading every 3 years, or a normal computer with 1000$ upgrading every 1 year :-?

Ramtin_LA