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#51 Daytona_178
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lol pc is dead if you are a fps fan, it's basically only crap rpg/rts now they killed pc gaming.

but actually consoles lack good shooters also.

consolegaminsol
There are plenty of good shooters on pc.
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#52 Daytona_178
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hopefully one day, operating systems are built into the pc's motherboard.

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LOL, that makes zero sense!
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#53 Daytona_178
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[QUOTE="noxboxlive"]it just does with a good pc you get cheaper games and better looking ones at that...THE ENDHHH316
Dear Fanboy PC gaming sales are dead. Regards hhh316

Proof?
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#54 consolegaminsol
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[QUOTE="consolegaminsol"]

hopefully one day, operating systems are built into the pc's motherboard.

Daytona_178

LOL, that makes zero sense!

yes it does, bios are built into the pc's motherboard and can be updated so i dont see why a operating system cant.

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#55 consolegaminsol
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[QUOTE="Daytona_178"][QUOTE="consolegaminsol"]

hopefully one day, operating systems are built into the pc's motherboard.

consolegaminsol

LOL, that makes zero sense!

yes it does, bios are built into the pc's motherboard and can be updated so i dont see why a operating system cant.

plus you wouldnt have to install operating system YAY lol.

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#56 50u1r34v3r
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[QUOTE="50u1r34v3r"][QUOTE="consolegaminsol"]

game sold more on pc than xbox.

megafail

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Sure it sold more games on the PC but when you can port it (relatively easy) to another system, why not do that to add those sales to the ones you're already making on the PC?

megafail right back at you for not thinking this through :P

no it sold 3 million copies before it was even ported to xbox.

And since the xbox was basically a PC it was easy to port it, hence the bolded part in my previous post. ;)
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#57 lowe0
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they shouldnt be charging for operating systems anyway.consolegaminsol
There are already free operating systems. Why not use one of those instead of freeloading off the people who pay for software?
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#58 Daytona_178
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[QUOTE="Daytona_178"][QUOTE="consolegaminsol"]

hopefully one day, operating systems are built into the pc's motherboard.

consolegaminsol

LOL, that makes zero sense!

yes it does, bios are built into the pc's motherboard and can be updated so i dont see why a operating system cant.

They operate in completely different way,,,also your BIOS is less than 1MB of memory.
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#59 Daytona_178
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[QUOTE="consolegaminsol"]they shouldnt be charging for operating systems anyway.lowe0
There are already free operating systems. Why not use one of those instead of freeloading off the people who pay for software?

Because they are no good for gaming,
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#60 consolegaminsol
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[QUOTE="consolegaminsol"][QUOTE="50u1r34v3r"]

Sure it sold more games on the PC but when you can port it (relatively easy) to another system, why not do that to add those sales to the ones you're already making on the PC?

megafail right back at you for not thinking this through :P

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no it sold 3 million copies before it was even ported to xbox.

And since the xbox was basically a PC it was easy to port it, hence the bolded part in my previous post. ;)

it's a totally different game, they had to chop levels in half/cut parts out of the game because wouldnt fit into xbox's 64 mb of ram.

im pretty sure it was hard to port, since it's nothing like pc version.

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#61 rchaboyer
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Can you get me a PC for around $199.99 that can play Call of Duty 4 on the same level of quality as the Xbox 360 version?Stevo_the_gamer
That argument is stupid because you probably spent $700 on your computer and $250 on the xbox 360 )who buys an arcade) that total is $950 and at that price you could run COD4 better than a 360
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#62 Daytona_178
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[QUOTE="consolegaminsol"][QUOTE="Daytona_178"] LOL, that makes zero sense!consolegaminsol

yes it does, bios are built into the pc's motherboard and can be updated so i dont see why a operating system cant.

plus you wouldnt have to install operating system YAY lol.

Also what would you do when they drive breaks,,,chuck away your whole motherboard?

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#63 consolegaminsol
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[QUOTE="consolegaminsol"][QUOTE="Daytona_178"] LOL, that makes zero sense!Daytona_178

yes it does, bios are built into the pc's motherboard and can be updated so i dont see why a operating system cant.

They operate in completely different way,,,also your BIOS is less than 1MB of memory.

they could make os less than 1 mb.

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#65 consolegaminsol
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[QUOTE="consolegaminsol"][QUOTE="consolegaminsol"]

yes it does, bios are built into the pc's motherboard and can be updated so i dont see why a operating system cant.

Daytona_178

plus you wouldnt have to install operating system YAY lol.

Also what would you do when they drive breaks,,,chuck away your whole motherboard?

buy a new harddrive?

i dont see how pc's cant have built in os like console.

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#66 lowe0
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[QUOTE="lowe0"][QUOTE="consolegaminsol"]they shouldnt be charging for operating systems anyway.Daytona_178
There are already free operating systems. Why not use one of those instead of freeloading off the people who pay for software?

Because they are no good for gaming,

Yeah, it's called "added value". If the improved gaming capabilities are worth the money, then he should pay up. If they're not, then he doesn't need it and should just use the free alternative. Either way, he's not entitled to just help himself to someone else's work without permission.
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#67 consolegaminsol
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when you build a pc you dont have much money left to pay for 100$ os, i think microsoft purposly put out some universal cd keys out there, for people who couldnt pay for os lol.
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#68 Daytona_178
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when you build a pc you dont have much money left to pay for 100$ os, i think microsoft purposly put out some universal cd keys out there, for people who couldnt pay for os lol.consolegaminsol
no they didnt.
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#69 Daytona_178
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[QUOTE="lowe0"][QUOTE="Daytona_178"][QUOTE="lowe0"] There are already free operating systems. Why not use one of those instead of freeloading off the people who pay for software?

Because they are no good for gaming,

Yeah, it's called "added value". If the improved gaming capabilities are worth the money, then he should pay up. If they're not, then he doesn't need it and should just use the free alternative. Either way, he's not entitled to just help himself to someone else's work without permission.

Oh ok, i see what was getting at now.
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#70 consolegaminsol
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[QUOTE="consolegaminsol"]when you build a pc you dont have much money left to pay for 100$ os, i think microsoft purposly put out some universal cd keys out there, for people who couldnt pay for os lol.Daytona_178
no they didnt.

lol cd key i have was posted by microsoft worker

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#71 Daytona_178
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[QUOTE="Daytona_178"][QUOTE="consolegaminsol"]when you build a pc you dont have much money left to pay for 100$ os, i think microsoft purposly put out some universal cd keys out there, for people who couldnt pay for os lol.consolegaminsol

no they didnt.

lol cd key i have was posted by microsoft worker

Proof? Otherwise hush little child.
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#72 lowe0
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when you build a pc you dont have much money left to pay for 100$ os, i think microsoft purposly put out some universal cd keys out there, for people who couldnt pay for os lol.consolegaminsol
No, they didn't. If you'd like to know what MS intended, there's a little document called EULA.txt that will make it quite clear. Those keys are intended for corporate customers so that they don't have to keep track of one key for each PC they have. Since people like you are using them to help themselves to something they don't have permission to use, MS developed a new system for Vista that uses a local activation server. Whether you have the money left over is irrelevant. It's software, not food or medicine.
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#73 50u1r34v3r
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[QUOTE="50u1r34v3r"][QUOTE="consolegaminsol"]

no it sold 3 million copies before it was even ported to xbox.

consolegaminsol

And since the xbox was basically a PC it was easy to port it, hence the bolded part in my previous post. ;)

it's a totally different game, they had to chop levels in half/cut parts out of the game because wouldnt fit into xbox's 64 mb of ram.

im pretty sure it was hard to port, since it's nothing like pc version.

They might have had to put in a little effort but I doubt it was really that hard to downgrade the textures or leave out a few parts in the game.

Either way: they still made some more money then they would have if they hadn't ported it.

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#74 Nagidar
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[QUOTE="Daytona_178"][QUOTE="consolegaminsol"]

yes it does, bios are built into the pc's motherboard and can be updated so i dont see why a operating system cant.

consolegaminsol

They operate in completely different way,,,also your BIOS is less than 1MB of memory.

they could make os less than 1 mb.

ROFL, no dude, just...no.

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#75 50u1r34v3r
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[QUOTE="consolegaminsol"]when you build a pc you dont have much money left to pay for 100$ os, i think microsoft purposly put out some universal cd keys out there, for people who couldnt pay for os lol.lowe0
No, they didn't. If you'd like to know what MS intended, there's a little document called EULA.txt that will make it quite clear. Those keys are intended for corporate customers so that they don't have to keep track of one key for each PC they have. Since people like you are using them to help themselves to something they don't have permission to use, MS developed a new system for Vista that uses a local activation server. Whether you have the money left over is irrelevant. It's software, not food or medicine.

I tried explaining that to him by using the: What if I believe games should be free? example but he just doesn't get it.

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#76 Espada12
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Can you get me a PC for around $199.99 that can play Call of Duty 4 on the same level of quality as the Xbox 360 version?Stevo_the_gamer

Two things though... you need a HDTV to make Cod 4 look good and I'm pretty sure on to play on XBL you need a HDD for COD4.. so you can't buy an arcade.

ANYONE saying you don't need a HDTV has either never tried a SDTV then gone to HD, blind, a fanboy.. or an idiot.

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#77 50u1r34v3r
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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]Can you get me a PC for around $199.99 that can play Call of Duty 4 on the same level of quality as the Xbox 360 version?Espada12

Two things though... you need a HDTV to make Cod 4 look good and I'm pretty sure on to play on XBL you need a HDD for COD4.. so you can't buy an arcade.

ANYONE saying you don't need a HDTV has either never tried a SDTV then gone to HD, blind, a fanboy.. or an idiot.

I had my 360 hooked up to my old CRT before I got my LCD and although I will never go back to SD :P , it's still (in most cases) not necessary.

Most games (apart from a few problems like Dead Rising) look perfectly fine on SD.

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#78 muscleserge
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Can you get me a PC for around $199.99 that can play Call of Duty 4 on the same level of quality as the Xbox 360 version?Stevo_the_gamer
find me an xbox for any price that can run CoD4 at the same level of quality as a $600 PC.
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#79 shawn7324
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I agree for the most part as there is just an endless supply of games to play on PC, but I still do love my Xbox 360.
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#80 Hoobinator
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USE UR CURRENT PC'S MONITER/KEYBOARD/MOUSE/SPEAKERS/HARDDRIVE/CDROM

PRICE 185$

LOL PWNED consolegaminsol

Reusing parts doesn't mean you can ignore their initial costs. The PC that you must use these parts from cost money. And no, not even the Operating System should be dismissed. All costs should be as new, not from money you spent on other PC's.

In that case, your setup is closer to being over double of the intended $200 asking price for an Xbox 360.

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#81 Hoobinator
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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]Can you get me a PC for around $199.99 that can play Call of Duty 4 on the same level of quality as the Xbox 360 version?Espada12

Two things though... you need a HDTV to make Cod 4 look good and I'm pretty sure on to play on XBL you need a HDD for COD4.. so you can't buy an arcade.

ANYONE saying you don't need a HDTV has either never tried a SDTV then gone to HD, blind, a fanboy.. or an idiot.

But you also need a monitor for the PC? Any that same monitor can also be used for the 360. So the TV costs are exactly the same for the 360 and PC, or does this piece of logic not count?
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#82 Espada12
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[QUOTE="Espada12"]

[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]Can you get me a PC for around $199.99 that can play Call of Duty 4 on the same level of quality as the Xbox 360 version?Hoobinator

Two things though... you need a HDTV to make Cod 4 look good and I'm pretty sure on to play on XBL you need a HDD for COD4.. so you can't buy an arcade.

ANYONE saying you don't need a HDTV has either never tried a SDTV then gone to HD, blind, a fanboy.. or an idiot.

But you also need a monitor for the PC? Any that same monitor can also be used for the 360. So the TV costs are exactly the same for the 360 and PC, or does this piece of logic not count?

I thought console gamers like to lounge infront thier big tvs? I didn't mean it like that anyway. I am just saying to get what you see in commercials,screenshots and reviews, it requires more than 200 dollars.

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[QUOTE="consolegaminsol"]USE UR CURRENT PC'S MONITER/KEYBOARD/MOUSE/SPEAKERS/HARDDRIVE/CDROM

PRICE 185$

LOL PWNED Hoobinator

Reusing parts doesn't mean you can ignore their initial costs. The PC that you must use these parts from cost money. And no, not even the Operating System should be dismissed. All costs should be as new, not from money you spent on other PC's.

In that case, your setup is closer to being over double of the intended $200 asking price for an Xbox 360.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817159062

25 psu$

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827118022

dvd burner 20$

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116064

cpu 49$


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813138131

motherboard 46$

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147127

case 20$


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820220231

2gb ram 19$

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814143105

video card 8600 GT 50$

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136195

harddrive 34$

use headphones you got around the house.

moniter go find old crt at pawn shop or garage sale i found 17 inch crt sony does 1600x1200 for 2$ with speakers

vista home 64 bit 90$

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116483

about 362$

keyboard/mouse about 10$ complete rig

BUT YOU ARE HERE USING POSTING SO OBVIOUSLY YOU HAVE A PC YOU CAN USE PARTS FROM AND MAKE THE CURRENT RIG CHEAPER.

xbox360 199$ 50$ xbox live lol, plus you gonna want a harddrive that's another 100$ oh lets see here we in range from pc built ground up.

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#84 whatsazerg
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[QUOTE="whatsazerg"][QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

Did you just say KOTOR is not on PC?

50u1r34v3r

umm...... wow... how did i miss that? It only fav. WRPG of all time.... but I dont ever remember anything about a PC version.... weird.... well anyway, my bad. But you all get my point, the other 2 plus countless others are not available on the PC, is my point..... I simply couldnt be satisfied as a gamer only playin on the PC.

You probably could be satisfied playing only PC games. (or any of the other 3 systems)

If you do more research on each system, I'm sure you can find enough games to satisfy you.

I used to think there's only 1 or 2 games I would want to play on the wii but when I did some more research I could find at least 10 games that look interesting to me.

Nope.... I need Zelda, Mario, Halo, Gears, Starcraft, Diablo... the only system not needed this gen is PS3, which is the only one i dont own.

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#85 Frozzik
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What has price go to do with anything? Why the hell do consolites hide behind the price thing? Honestly is that the best argument you have?

You get what you pay for, That extra money gets you alot more than just a gamesplaying machine. I edit and print lots of pics, videos, music etc etc on my PC, the fact my PC is pretty fast makes all this faster and easier.

I play games on m,y consoles, thats it, nothing more, nothing less. I expect them to be much cheaper than my PC. Fact is i do 100's of things on my PC and get amazing better looking games as a bonus.

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#86 tryfgdsferterat
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i built a ground up pc for about 360$

everyone here, is using a pc so you can use parts off the crap you already have and make the pc you building even cheaper requiring you to buy less parts.

pc is much better than console crap, i mean ur all on a pc anyway, so why not just click a icon on ur desktop and start playing? lol

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#87 50u1r34v3r
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[QUOTE="Hoobinator"][QUOTE="consolegaminsol"]USE UR CURRENT PC'S MONITER/KEYBOARD/MOUSE/SPEAKERS/HARDDRIVE/CDROM

PRICE 185$

LOL PWNED tryfgdsferterat

Reusing parts doesn't mean you can ignore their initial costs. The PC that you must use these parts from cost money. And no, not even the Operating System should be dismissed. All costs should be as new, not from money you spent on other PC's.

In that case, your setup is closer to being over double of the intended $200 asking price for an Xbox 360.

*Big list of links to parts*


BUT YOU ARE HERE USING POSTING SO OBVIOUSLY YOU HAVE A PC YOU CAN USE PARTS FROM AND MAKE THE CURRENT RIG CHEAPER.

xbox360 199$ 50$ xbox live lol, plus you gonna want a harddrive that's another 100$ oh lets see here we in range from pc built ground up.

What if you don't game online? :)

I've bought my 60GB Pro 360 for €200,- (equivalent of $200) , it plays all the games for the 360 and I haven't spend a dollar/euro on Live.

Besides: If you really want to game online you could just make a new account every month because you'll get a free month of Live Gold everytime you do that. ;)

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#88 mirgamer
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I play games on my consoles, that's it, nothing more, nothing less. I expect them to be much cheaper than my PC. Fact is i do 100's of things on my PC and get amazing better looking games as a bonus.

This.

This is why a PC costs more and spanks a console every.single.time. Guess what, I'm also using my pc for work, earn money off of it and use it to PLAY GAMES TOO.

Absolute winnar.

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#89 tryfgdsferterat
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[QUOTE="tryfgdsferterat"][QUOTE="Hoobinator"]

Reusing parts doesn't mean you can ignore their initial costs. The PC that you must use these parts from cost money. And no, not even the Operating System should be dismissed. All costs should be as new, not from money you spent on other PC's.

In that case, your setup is closer to being over double of the intended $200 asking price for an Xbox 360.

50u1r34v3r

*Big list of links to parts*


BUT YOU ARE HERE USING POSTING SO OBVIOUSLY YOU HAVE A PC YOU CAN USE PARTS FROM AND MAKE THE CURRENT RIG CHEAPER.

xbox360 199$ 50$ xbox live lol, plus you gonna want a harddrive that's another 100$ oh lets see here we in range from pc built ground up.

What if you don't game online? :)

I've bought my 60GB Pro 360 for €200,- (equivalent of $200) , it plays all the games for the 360 and I haven't spend a dollar/euro on Live.

Besides: If you really want to game online you could just make a new account every month because you'll get a free month of Live Gold everytime you do that. ;)

lol i can build a 200$ rig if you really want me to.

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#90 tryfgdsferterat
Member since 2009 • 32 Posts

[QUOTE="tryfgdsferterat"][QUOTE="Hoobinator"]

Reusing parts doesn't mean you can ignore their initial costs. The PC that you must use these parts from cost money. And no, not even the Operating System should be dismissed. All costs should be as new, not from money you spent on other PC's.

In that case, your setup is closer to being over double of the intended $200 asking price for an Xbox 360.

50u1r34v3r

*Big list of links to parts*


BUT YOU ARE HERE USING POSTING SO OBVIOUSLY YOU HAVE A PC YOU CAN USE PARTS FROM AND MAKE THE CURRENT RIG CHEAPER.

xbox360 199$ 50$ xbox live lol, plus you gonna want a harddrive that's another 100$ oh lets see here we in range from pc built ground up.

What if you don't game online? :)

I've bought my 60GB Pro 360 for €200,- (equivalent of $200) , it plays all the games for the 360 and I haven't spend a dollar/euro on Live.

Besides: If you really want to game online you could just make a new account every month because you'll get a free month of Live Gold everytime you do that. ;)

nope you had to pay for tv.

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#91 tryfgdsferterat
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old crt pc moniters can be had for dirtcheap
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#92 tryfgdsferterat
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even sdtv gonna cost you more than crt.
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#93 50u1r34v3r
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What has price go to do with anything? Why the hell do consolites hide behind the price thing? Honestly is that the best argument you have?

You get what you pay for, That extra money gets you alot more than just a gamesplaying machine. I edit and print lots of pics, videos, music etc etc on my PC, the fact my PC is pretty fast makes all this faster and easier.

I play games on m,y consoles, thats it, nothing more, nothing less. I expect them to be much cheaper than my PC. Fact is i do 100's of things on my PC and get amazing better looking games as a bonus.

Frozzik

The price issue is merely brought up to demonstrate that a console isn't a bad deal if you just want to play the majority of the games.

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#94 clembo1990
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We know, you don't need to argue this.
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#95 tryfgdsferterat
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i wish i could link the video

but watch the gamespot video top right corner of the page

http://www.gamespot.com/console-resource/pc/index.html?tag=subnav;console-resource

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#96 tryfgdsferterat
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i wish i could link the video

but watch the gamespot video top right corner of the page

http://www.gamespot.com/console-resource/pc/index.html?tag=subnav;console-resource

tryfgdsferterat

watch introduction to pc gaming video^^

the dude clearly explains consoles are crap.

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#97 Frozzik
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[QUOTE="Frozzik"]

What has price go to do with anything? Why the hell do consolites hide behind the price thing? Honestly is that the best argument you have?

You get what you pay for, That extra money gets you alot more than just a gamesplaying machine. I edit and print lots of pics, videos, music etc etc on my PC, the fact my PC is pretty fast makes all this faster and easier.

I play games on m,y consoles, thats it, nothing more, nothing less. I expect them to be much cheaper than my PC. Fact is i do 100's of things on my PC and get amazing better looking games as a bonus.

50u1r34v3r

The price issue is merely brought up to demonstrate that a console isn't a bad deal if you just want to play the majority of the games.

Buy nobody has ever stated consoles are a bad deal. The price thing is only brought up by console gamers when they cant bash PC for any other reason. Like i said in my post, if a PC did nothing buy play games for that price, was just like a console then maybe it could be a valid point. The fact is, even when it comes down to just gaming you get probably $1000's of dollars extra gameplay a year, FREE with mods etc. Not to mention all the other things PC's do.

Anyway, overall my PS3 has cost more than my PC when you add up everything spent on both, so don't tell me its that much cheaper to be a console gamer.

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#98 clembo1990
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http://www.gamespot.com/console-resource/pc/index.html?tag=subnav;console-resource

There ya go.

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#99 tryfgdsferterat
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http://www.gamespot.com/console-resource/pc/index.html?tag=subnav;console-resource

There ya go.

clembo1990

The guy say's oh man crysis you seen that? you'll have to wait till playstation 4 or xbox720 to get graphics like that on consoles

its true though.