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#52 PS_Family
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I swear there's more graphic cards amounced than PC games this year.

Why not devs concentrate to get the most out of the 7x and 8x family instead of being lazy forcing people to upgrade?

When will it end?

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[QUOTE="TransmetalWok7"]I would have been better off if my dad pulled out and shot me against the wall CONFIRMEDmudman91878

Fixed it for ya.

OMG. I'm literally crying. :lol:

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#54 mudman91878
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[QUOTE="mudman91878"]

[QUOTE="TransmetalWok7"]I would have been better off if my dad pulled out and shot me against the wall CONFIRMEDbladeeagle

Fixed it for ya.

OMG. I'm literally crying. :lol:

lol....i ended up adding something to my post so it would be on topic.

Wok7 just wants attention, he doesn't even believe what he says.

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#55 Dante2710
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cant say that i really care...the only good perk about this, its that basically the other graphics card will go down in price, woot
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#56 Bebi_vegeta
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I swear there's more graphic cards amounced than PC games this year.

Why not devs concentrate to get the most out of the 7x and 8x family instead of being lazy forcing people to upgrade?

When will it end?

PS_Family

I'm pretty much maxing everything with my 8800GTX@1200p... don't know what you talking about.

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#57 Einhanderkiller
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The cards are now called the GeForece GTX 280 and GeForce GTX 260, as part of NVIDIA's new naming scheme.

Rumored preliminary benchmarks show that the GTX 280 is close to twice as fast as the 9800 GX2, which makes it about thrice as fast as a single 8800 GTX, which is quite a huge leap.

Oh, and the card supposedly runs Crysis on Very High with AA and AF at 60+ FPS. :D

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#58 Nolan16
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The cards are now called the GeForece GTX 280 and GeForce GTX 260, as part of NVIDIA's new naming scheme.

Rumored preliminary benchmarks show that the GTX 280 is close to twice as fast as the 9800 GX2, which makes it about thrice as fast as a single 8800 GTX, which is quite a huge leap.

Oh, and the card supposedly runs Crysis on Very High with AA and AF at 60+ FPS. :D

Einhanderkiller

yes i've heard and seen benchmarks of it all ready it maxed crysis out with average of 62 fps low 49 high 77

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#59 Nolan16
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this is where the PC completely surpasses Consoles in visual quality down this time line.
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#60 insanejedi
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Nividia! Stop making these super high end cards! This is actually one of the reasons why PC gaming is not doing so well becuase...

a: people hold off from playing new games and buying new PC's becuase they are playing the fools game of waiting for better cards.

b: developers try to push the limit of these cards for the 5 people that have these so no one buys the game becuase they cant run it on high.

I think Nivida has to go through the ATI route and release like one card and stagnate graphical development so everyone can actually play these games.

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#61 Nolan16
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Nividia! Stop making these super high end cards! This is actually one of the reasons why PC gaming is not doing so well becuase...

a: people hold off from playing new games and buying new PC's becuase they are playing the fools game of waiting for better cards.

b: developers try to push the limit of these cards for the 5 people that have these so no one buys the game becuase they cant run it on high.

I think Nivida has to go through the ATI route and release like one card and stagnate graphical development so everyone can actually play these games.

insanejedi

I buy the high end cards so im phsyced lol..

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#62 MojondeVACA
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Im buying a 4870x2 HD the first day it comes out.
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#63 insanejedi
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[QUOTE="insanejedi"]

Nividia! Stop making these super high end cards! This is actually one of the reasons why PC gaming is not doing so well becuase...

a: people hold off from playing new games and buying new PC's becuase they are playing the fools game of waiting for better cards.

b: developers try to push the limit of these cards for the 5 people that have these so no one buys the game becuase they cant run it on high.

I think Nivida has to go through the ATI route and release like one card and stagnate graphical development so everyone can actually play these games.

Nolan16

I buy the high end cards so im phsyced lol..

I wish i could burn 700 dollars on a silicon card...

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#64 Nolan16
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Im buying a 4870x2 HD the first day it comes out.MojondeVACA

same it pushes over 2 GFLOPS? Yeah that card it untouchable...

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Nividia! Stop making these super high end cards! This is actually one of the reasons why PC gaming is not doing so well becuase...

I think Nivida has to go through the ATI route and release like one card and stagnate graphical development so everyone can actually play these games.

insanejedi

Er, graphics cards have been very affordable for the last 9 months or so. 8800 GT, 8800 GTS, 9600 GT, HD 3850, HD 3870--all affordable graphics cards.

[QUOTE="MojondeVACA"]Im buying a 4870x2 HD the first day it comes out.Nolan16

same it pushes over 2 GFLOPS? Yeah that card it untouchable...

You mean 2 teraflops.

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#66 azell07
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here we go.. nvidia pushing 10.1 on us poor hermmits.. well i'll be happy if it spanks teh 9800x2. I re-bought a 8800gtx, so i guess i have forgotten my horror stories with nvidia cards.. i feel sorry for ati, but if nvidias new next gen fails, i'll stick to my 8800 series. i doubt it, it really looks like a monster card, just like 1 1/2 yrs ago with the 8800's. ati is really screwed now T.T
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#67 comstrikeiscool
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Nividia! Stop making these super high end cards! This is actually one of the reasons why PC gaming is not doing so well becuase...

a: people hold off from playing new games and buying new PC's becuase they are playing the fools game of waiting for better cards.

b: developers try to push the limit of these cards for the 5 people that have these so no one buys the game becuase they cant run it on high.

I think Nivida has to go through the ATI route and release like one card and stagnate graphical development so everyone can actually play these games.

insanejedi

First of all, since when is pc gaming not doing so well? People don't buy new pc's, they upgrade....once in a while whenever you want. NOW is the BEST time to upgrade. Nvidia go the ATI route?...there are plenty of cards right now to run ANY game you want for a decent price. Have you seen Nvidia's 9600 line of cards? Even 8800GT's are going down in price every day.

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#68 Nolan16
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[QUOTE="insanejedi"]

Nividia! Stop making these super high end cards! This is actually one of the reasons why PC gaming is not doing so well becuase...

I think Nivida has to go through the ATI route and release like one card and stagnate graphical development so everyone can actually play these games.

Einhanderkiller

Er, graphics cards have been very affordable for the last 9 months or so. 8800 GT, 8800 GTS, 9600 GT, HD 3850, HD 3870--all affordable graphics cards.

[QUOTE="MojondeVACA"]Im buying a 4870x2 HD the first day it comes out.Nolan16

same it pushes over 2 GFLOPS? Yeah that card it untouchable...

You mean 2 teraflops.

click the ati link what does that say :D

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#69 Ilived
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Those new graphics cards are totally worthless...only ONE game needs it.
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#70 Nolan16
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Those new graphics cards are totally worthless...only ONE game needs it.Ilived

worthless how so the leap is going to be temdendous you mean worthless as in no game will require that power?

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#71 Ilived
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[QUOTE="Ilived"]Those new graphics cards are totally worthless...only ONE game needs it.Nolan16

worthless how so the leap is going to be temdendous you mean worthless as in no game will require that power?

Yeah. I don't think it's worth it to make such a leap if it isn't needed.

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#72 Nolan16
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[QUOTE="Nolan16"]

[QUOTE="Ilived"]Those new graphics cards are totally worthless...only ONE game needs it.Ilived

worthless how so the leap is going to be temdendous you mean worthless as in no game will require that power?

Yeah. I don't think it's worth it to make such a leap if it isn't needed.

they are starting to future proof graphic cards in a way it's good but for the first time games arent ahead of the graphics cards it's starting to turn into the oppiste as soon as these cards are released it will be the oppiste.

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#73 komdosina
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PC nerds obsessed over specs.
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#74 Nolan16
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PC nerds obsessed over specs.komdosina

Console fan boys can't touch this graphically there miles away.

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#75 komdosina
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[QUOTE="TransmetalWok7"]Hermits love to upgrade more than playing games CONFIRMEDRiki101


console fans like to argue more then they like to play their rehashed games

PC games=FPS, RTS and MMORPG's rinse and repeat, yup PC gaming is not filled with rehashing of the same genre over and over :roll:.

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#76 middito
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is this the pinnacle? the point where pushing graphical performance becomes impractical in developement terms?

good. that means prices will drop, and devs will be forced to design better gameplay. if u havnt seen my crappy specs that i flag around with in everyone of my posts, im in dire need of an upgrade. im just waiting, waiting for the right time. 2-5month maybe? PC gaming isnt expensive you can get around with a 700$ system (including monitor) i've been doing it for about a year. but these new cards, you probably wont have to upgrade for years due to raw power. even fanboys have to shout, "baby got back".

now that gpu's are out of the way, we just need to focus on faster CPU's.

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#77 middito
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p.s. i'm also waiting on AMD to release standardized PC's so those greedy pan-handing lepurchaun Dev's will flock back to PC and refill my hard-drive.
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#78 Danm_999
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[QUOTE="Riki101"][QUOTE="TransmetalWok7"]Hermits love to upgrade more than playing games CONFIRMEDkomdosina



console fans like to argue more then they like to play their rehashed games

PC games=FPS, RTS and MMORPG's rinse and repeat, yup PC gaming is not filled with rehashing of the same genre over and over :roll:.

Besides missing out on dozens of genres there (simulators, strategy, adventure, racing, RPGs) that the PC has great holdings in, you've ignored the shape of libraries this year.

Let's take a look at some of the biggest exclusives titles from and coming for PC vs. consoles recently:

PC:

  • Sins of a Solar Empire
  • Spore
  • Crysis
  • The Witcher
  • Starcraft 2 (hasn't had a sequel in 10 years)
  • Dragon Age
  • Dawn of War 2
  • Red Alert 3

Overall a good mix of old and new.

Consoles

  • Grand Theft Auto 4
  • Metal Gear Solid 4
  • Ratchet and Clank 3
  • Resistance 2
  • Halo 3
  • Super Smash Bros 3
  • Gears of War 2
  • Fable 2
  • Forza 2
  • Super Mario Galaxy


In fact, if it weren't for Little Big Planet and No More Heroes, I'd be tempted to say consoles were completely adverse to the idea of good new IPs.

The final proof is in the pudding of course, the PC has more exclusive highly rated games. Rehashes don't often rate well.

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#79 jg4xchamp
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I care more about the games. Personally the visuals now are fine.

Stalker, Witcher, and ofcourse Crysis.

My laptop can only run the thing on medium and i still enjoy it.

Although if enough big games use the more recent technology, i guess ill order those cards instead of the 8800 this summer when i build my own rig.

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#80 jg4xchamp
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Dude Ratchet and Clank are on 5
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#81 Danm_999
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Dude Ratchet and Clank are on 5jg4xchamp

Bah your right, I forgot Size Matters was on PS2 as well as PSP.

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#82 PS3_3DO
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PC gaming is cool but now you have to upgrade even faster. :o

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#83 zaigham
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I really think this card is a waste of money. There is no game in development now that is known to be graphically superior than crysis. Even if it is about crysis, I ran it with my 8800 GTS overclocked at 1280*1024 with very high settings and it ran smooth at about 27 fps.And not any single game is not worth $400.

Unless I just want to make me feel happy because I have THE LATEST card, I see no reason for it. For now, I am happy with my 8800 GTS.

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#84 daveg1
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this is what they said about the 9 series first lot of cards i doubt it will be that big of a leap to what you can get now..
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[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]Dude Ratchet and Clank are on 5Danm_999

Bah your right, I forgot Size Matters was on PS2 as well as PSP.

no i didnt even count that.

Ratchet
Ratcht going commando
Ratchet Up your arsenal
Ratceht Deadlocked
Ratchet Tools of Destruction

5 games and the definition of rehashing a series.
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#86 kozzy1234
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Im pumped 2... i dont know how much better things can get though, Crysis still blows me away everytime i play it!

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#87 kostmpekir
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Ok, now let's wait and see how many years will pass, until we get the first game (bar Crysis) to use even 1/10 of that power

I bet you, xbox720 will be out with 5x that power far before a decent PC game comes up that trully take 100% advantage of those cards

In case you have not noticed Gears 2, Fable 2, Alan Wake, Gothic 4 are all on 360 !!!

There is simply no point in even getting a 7800 GTX imo for now, unless you like Crysis nuch

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#88 hywel69
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Too bad that there will be hardly any games out that will ustilize the 9900, maybe time to dust off crisys?, while the rest of the PC world plays SC2 on their 7 series.
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#89 skrat_01
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huraah now we can all run Crysis on 1080p, very high 8XAA and 16XAF.
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#90 slickchris7777
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Project Offset, Alan Wake, Far Cry 2, Fallout 3, Clear Skies, Futuremark's project. All will utilize this power, don't know what some of you are talking about.
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#91 rgame1
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no its more like my pocket will take a huge jump down the drain.
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#92 MadExponent
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Well actually that article is wrong. The new parts are going to be the Geforce GTX 280 and the Geforce GTS 260. The GTX is said to be more than 2x the performance of the 9800GX2. It will support a full 1GB of GDDR3 with some nice tight timings. The 9800GX2 technically only had 512MB of frame buffer anyways, but it was sold as if it were a "real" 1GB card. This thing is gonna be SMOKING fast. Speculation amongst the people in the know around xtremesystems.org says that this card card do 1920x1200 4x-8xAA 16xAF Very High-Ultra High @ over 60fps. Yeah....so anyways. This thing already scores in the mid 7,000's on the brand new 3dmark. That is just ridiculous. Needless to say I will be going SLi on this cycle. :)
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Oh and just an FYI the new Geforce GTX 280 is gonna slap the HD4870 silly and perhaps even the HD4870x2.
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[QUOTE="TransmetalWok7"]Hermits love to upgrade more than playing games CONFIRMEDRiki101


console fans like to argue more then they like to play their rehashed games

ownage confirmed.

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#95 iamsickofspam
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huraah now we can all run Crysis on 1080p, very high 8XAA and 16XAF.skrat_01

Thats what im waiting for, 1920x1200 at 60fps, with 8xAA and 16XAF on highest settings.

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#96 MadExponent
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Oh and just an FYI the new Geforce GTX 280 is gonna slap the HD4870 silly and perhaps even the HD4870x2.MadExponent

Also the HD4870 and x2 were designed to beat the 9800GTX and 9800GX2's. The competitor to the GTX 280 is going to be the R700 based card not the RV770.

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[QUOTE="kayn83"]I thought Crysis was already the big graphical leap. So if what you're saying is true that means there is going to be ANOTHER leap but the question remains this will save PC gaming how?Great_Ragnarok

there are over 200 million PC gamers! so why does it need to be saved? and from what does it need saving?

PC games sell like crap.

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#98 the_one34
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I swear there's more graphic cards amounced than PC games this year.

Why not devs concentrate to get the most out of the 7x and 8x family instead of being lazy forcing people to upgrade?

When will it end?

PS_Family

We've been with the 8x family since 2006. It's 2008, that's ancient for enthusiasts. 7x series? What is this, the PS3/360? PC gamers move on in technology.

The 8x series have been rehased to DEATH and new technology is always a good thing. I hope it never ends cos we'll always be in the same place, never moving forward.

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#99 mingo123
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i want that alienware pc with dual 3870 x2 cards!!!! only for just over 5,000 quids, teh expensive! :cry:
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[QUOTE="Great_Ragnarok"]

[QUOTE="kayn83"]I thought Crysis was already the big graphical leap. So if what you're saying is true that means there is going to be ANOTHER leap but the question remains this will save PC gaming how?ClarentUK

there are over 200 million PC gamers! so why does it need to be saved? and from what does it need saving?

PC games sell like crap.

And yet somehow make loads of profit.

Who'd have thunk.