Pc graphics are overrated

[QUOTE="xOMGITSJASONx"]

[QUOTE="washd123"]

I dont understand how the best can be over rated. graphics arent a matter of subjective opinion. This isnt about personal feelings its a tangable thing.

saying pc graphics are over rated is like saying the worlds tallest building is over rated.

tagyhag

PC graphics are overrated to me. After beating both Crysis, 3 STALKER games etc and playing many other PC games. After i played those i was bl owedaway by U2 and God of War 3 still graphicaly.. So those games are underrated graphically?

In a technical perspective, U2 and GOW3 don't look as good as some PC exclusives.

Artistically, that's totally your call.

If someone said "Oh I like the graphics of U2 more than the graphics of Crysis" That's ok that's subjective.

But if someone said "U2 has better technical graphics than Crysis" That's objective grounds and a false statement.

Um doesn't the PC has more powah then the consoles? Lol, of course can have have greater technical capabilities. What i'm going by is what my EYES tell me. PC games do look better more crisper graphics etc etc, but guys saying Crysis is a gen ahead looking to my EYES compared to U2 is ridiculous and live in fantasy world cause at 720 p U2 looks better than 98% of PC games i played. Like STALKERCoP for example i just started the game and it looked so damn bland graphicaly i was pissed and i was playing at like 1600x1000 somthing res. Bottom line for me i go by my eyes and not technical capabilities cause the only game i played that hermits can really brag about as far as technically superior is the first Crysis.. and yea i played demos of the latset RTS games etc etc... i just don't see the hype on SW regarding the PC's graphics.

Overrated?? All thsoe gaems on pc look simply amazing and many many more.

Um doesn't the PC has more powah then the consoles? Lol, of course can have have greater technical capabilities. What i'm going by is what my EYES tell me. PC games do look better more crisper graphics etc etc, but guys saying Crysis is a gen ahead looking to my EYES compared to U2 is ridiculous and live in fantasy world cause at 720 p U2 looks better than 98% of PC games i played. Like STALKERCoP for example i just started the game and it looked so damn bland graphicaly i was pissed and i was playing at like 1600x1000 somthing res. Bottom line for me i go by my eyes and not technical capabilities cause the only game i played that hermits can really brag about as far as technically superior is the first Crysis.. and yea i played demos of the latset RTS games etc etc... i just don't see the hype on SW regarding the PC's graphics.

xOMGITSJASONx

then youre not talking about graphics.

graphics are the tech thats it. ha snothing to do with art or 'looking' better, thats subjective.

youre talking about visuals.

[QUOTE="tagyhag"]

[QUOTE="xOMGITSJASONx"]

PC graphics are overrated to me. After beating both Crysis, 3 STALKER games etc and playing many other PC games. After i played those i was bl owedaway by U2 and God of War 3 still graphicaly.. So those games are underrated graphically?

xOMGITSJASONx

In a technical perspective, U2 and GOW3 don't look as good as some PC exclusives.

Artistically, that's totally your call.

If someone said "Oh I like the graphics of U2 more than the graphics of Crysis" That's ok that's subjective.

But if someone said "U2 has better technical graphics than Crysis" That's objective grounds and a false statement.

Um doesn't the PC has more powah then the consoles? Lol, of course can have have greater technical capabilities. What i'm going by is what my EYES tell me. PC games do look better more crisper graphics etc etc, but guys saying Crysis is a gen ahead looking to my EYES compared to U2 is ridiculous and live in fantasy world cause at 720 p U2 looks better than 98% of PC games i played. Like STALKERCoP for example i just started the game and it looked so damn bland graphicaly i was pissed and i was playing at like 1600x1000 somthing res. Bottom line for me i go by my eyes and not technical capabilities cause the only game i played that hermits can really brag about as far as technically superior is the first Crysis.. and yea i played demos of the latset RTS games etc etc... i just don't see the hype on SW regarding the PC's graphics.

Metro? Arma2? Dawn Of Discovery? Mirrors Edge? Napoleon Total War?
Those are all amazing looking games on pc

Games like Oblivion are easily a generation ahead of consoles, if not more, when fully maxed out running at high res.

[QUOTE="ThePsTriple"]

Hermits here make it seem like games like crysis and metro 2033 are a generation ahead of consoles, what a load of turd.. ive played the best the pc has to offer (my college tutor can max everything) what do you guys think?

my GTX 460, which is far from the best out today, blows the PS3 graphics away

[QUOTE="jimkabrhel"]

[QUOTE="Arach666"]I think the consoles are way ahead of anything the PC has to offer graphically.Arach666

Sarcasm? :P

I think the consoles are way ahead of anything the PC has to offer graphically.Arach666

[QUOTE="ThePsTriple"]

Hermits here make it seem like games like crysis and metro 2033 are a generation ahead of consoles, what a load of turd.. ive played the best the pc has to offer (my college tutor can max everything) what do you guys think?

my GTX 460, which is far from the best out today, blows the PS3 graphics away

Considering the consoles hardware I would have to say they still make some great looking games... like U2.

But that doesn't change the fact that PC graphics are at least a generation ahead, even in U2 they use DoF to make the distant textures look OK; when in fact they are awful.

PCs chew up pixels, consoles nibble at them.

Look at the oblivion pic in this thread (pc vs console)... that pretty much sums it up.

[QUOTE="tagyhag"]

[QUOTE="xOMGITSJASONx"]

PC graphics are overrated to me. After beating both Crysis, 3 STALKER games etc and playing many other PC games. After i played those i was bl owedaway by U2 and God of War 3 still graphicaly.. So those games are underrated graphically?

xOMGITSJASONx

In a technical perspective, U2 and GOW3 don't look as good as some PC exclusives.

Artistically, that's totally your call.

If someone said "Oh I like the graphics of U2 more than the graphics of Crysis" That's ok that's subjective.

But if someone said "U2 has better technical graphics than Crysis" That's objective grounds and a false statement.

Um doesn't the PC has more powah then the consoles? Lol, of course can have have greater technical capabilities. What i'm going by is what my EYES tell me. PC games do look better more crisper graphics etc etc, but guys saying Crysis is a gen ahead looking to my EYES compared to U2 is ridiculous and live in fantasy world cause at 720 p U2 looks better than 98% of PC games i played. Like STALKERCoP for example i just started the game and it looked so damn bland graphicaly i was pissed and i was playing at like 1600x1000 somthing res. Bottom line for me i go by my eyes and not technical capabilities cause the only game i played that hermits can really brag about as far as technically superior is the first Crysis.. and yea i played demos of the latset RTS games etc etc... i just don't see the hype on SW regarding the PC's graphics.

[QUOTE="xOMGITSJASONx"]

[QUOTE="tagyhag"]

In a technical perspective, U2 and GOW3 don't look as good as some PC exclusives.

Artistically, that's totally your call.

If someone said "Oh I like the graphics of U2 more than the graphics of Crysis" That's ok that's subjective.

But if someone said "U2 has better technical graphics than Crysis" That's objective grounds and a false statement.

mattuk69

Um doesn't the PC has more powah then the consoles? Lol, of course can have have greater technical capabilities. What i'm going by is what my EYES tell me. PC games do look better more crisper graphics etc etc, but guys saying Crysis is a gen ahead looking to my EYES compared to U2 is ridiculous and live in fantasy world cause at 720 p U2 looks better than 98% of PC games i played. Like STALKERCoP for example i just started the game and it looked so damn bland graphicaly i was pissed and i was playing at like 1600x1000 somthing res. Bottom line for me i go by my eyes and not technical capabilities cause the only game i played that hermits can really brag about as far as technically superior is the first Crysis.. and yea i played demos of the latset RTS games etc etc... i just don't see the hype on SW regarding the PC's graphics.

[QUOTE="04dcarraher"][QUOTE="Scoob64"]

my GTX 460, which is far from the best out today, blows the PS3 graphics away

drspudz

You mad bro?
Every post I see of yours its talking down on PC gaming, relax a little

Well if they want to waste their money and get absolutely nothing in return then they can do whatever they want.

Well if they want to waste their money and get absolutely nothing in return then they can do whatever they want.

drspudz

Get nothing in return?
Come on now, they are getting enjoyment out of there pc gamign just like you get enjoyment out of your halo and 360.

Well if they want to waste their money and get absolutely nothing in return then they can do whatever they want.

drspudz

Nothing in return? The PC's library, improved performance and graphics, moddable games plus many more advantages. How is that "nothing"?

They are getting 3 fps improvement after paying hundreds of dollars on new hardware.

They are getting 3 fps improvement after paying hundreds of dollars on new hardware.

drspudz

Erm... What? First of all, a universal statement such as that could not be correct if you account for the huge variety in hardware. Next, there is hardware out there that can run modern games upwards of 60FPS so what on Earth are you going on about?

They are getting 3 fps improvement after paying hundreds of dollars on new hardware.

drspudz

They are getting 3 fps improvement after paying hundreds of dollars on new hardware.

drspudz

] Lol how the hell does any of that mean that devs actually have the time and money to make a game that would fully utilize your precious gpu? Get real, do you wanna know how much of a failure SLI was for games? You guys should be known as the real sheep to be honest because you will go out and buy any of the useless expensive stuff that will give you the tiniest improvement or make it worse/unchanged due to the fact of compatibility issues and games not utilizing or are optimized properly for your hardware. It's endless...it's ridiculous.drspudz

if the devs were actually trying to utilize those sub$100 gpus they would bend the consoles over and ask for seconds. however they dont, and were left with sub $100 gpus that in realworld performance merely beat the hell out of the consoles.

Well if they want to waste their money and get absolutely nothing in return then they can do whatever they want.

drspudz

If anything the consoles are a huge waste of money, because all they do is play games and even that they don't do well.

No offense, but this just comes off as "im jealous, PCs are better and I can't afford one"

[QUOTE="drspudz"]

They are getting 3 fps improvement after paying hundreds of dollars on new hardware.

lundy86_4

Erm... What? First of all, a universal statement such as that could not be correct if you account for the huge variety in hardware. Next, there is hardware out there that can run modern games upwards of 60FPS so what on Earth are you going on about?

They are getting 3 fps improvement after paying hundreds of dollars on new hardware.

drspudz

[QUOTE="drspudz"]

They are getting 3 fps improvement after paying hundreds of dollars on new hardware.

lawlessx

Wot?:o

What´s the meaning of this?

[QUOTE="drspudz"]

They are getting 3 fps improvement after paying hundreds of dollars on new hardware.

lawlessx

I said an improvement for 3fps to that 60fps is enough for a hermit to go out and buy new hardware. It's ridiculous. Exhibit A: This guy spent what over $10k building this beast yet he is having problems and only received a little bit of an improvement in Metro 2033.

drspudz

Certain Hermits may do that. However there is no way to know if that's the general mentality. It also entirely depends on the game as for the improvement, or they may be looking to push a higher res or higher assets/lighting/physics etc.

I haven't spent a penny on my machine in almost 2 and a half years and I still game at 1920x1200 on max settings for a lot of games. Only recently have I started having to lower it, mostly due to my dual-core.

[QUOTE="drspudz"]

They are getting 3 fps improvement after paying hundreds of dollars on new hardware.

Arach666

You are providing me with chuckles. :)

The capabilities of the PC as a platform are limitless, the capbilites of current games are not. This is because devs follow profit, and develop games for consoles, which have inferior hardware in every way.

[QUOTE="Arach666"][QUOTE="drspudz"]

They are getting 3 fps improvement after paying hundreds of dollars on new hardware.

StrawberryHill

You are providing me with chuckles. :)

There is alot of price talk going on here. Why is that even an issue? If a good PC cost me $3000 instead of the $1100 i paid i'd still pay it. Gaming is my hobby and i want the best experience that hobby can provide, for me that is PC so i will pay whatever is needed.

Why do so many people fail to understand this?

Yup, no REAL argument against the videos I provided. That's 10 points for me and 0 for hermits.

Yup, no REAL argument against the videos I provided. That's 10 points for me and 0 for hermits.

drspudz

Sorry i usually just skip over your posts, they are usually...well.. icould say so much but would probably get modded lol. Only read this one as it was the last one.

[QUOTE="jimkabrhel"]

[QUOTE="Arach666"]I think the consoles are way ahead of anything the PC has to offer graphically.Arach666

Sarcasm? :P

[QUOTE="drspudz"]

Yup, no REAL argument against the videos I provided. That's 10 points for me and 0 for hermits.

Frozzik

Sorry i usually just skip over your posts, they are usually...well.. icould say so much but would probably get modded lol. Only read this one as it was the last one.

[QUOTE="Arach666"][QUOTE="jimkabrhel"]

Sarcasm? :P

DarkLink77

[QUOTE="Frozzik"]

[QUOTE="drspudz"]

Yup, no REAL argument against the videos I provided. That's 10 points for me and 0 for hermits.

drspudz

Sorry i usually just skip over your posts, they are usually...well.. icould say so much but would probably get modded lol. Only read this one as it was the last one.

and this is a problem why?

[QUOTE="drspudz"][QUOTE="Frozzik"]

Sorry i usually just skip over your posts, they are usually...well.. icould say so much but would probably get modded lol. Only read this one as it was the last one.

Frozzik

and this is a problem why?

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="Arach666"] Nonsense,I am clearly speaking the truth. Arach666

[QUOTE="Frozzik"]

[QUOTE="drspudz"] Well you can just watch it. The guy spends over $10k on his computer and he's having problems with it AND he's not getting much of an improvement playing Metro 2033. drspudz

and this is a problem why?

Nah, I'm not thatinterested in anything you have to say, it will just be some PC bashing nonsense.

[QUOTE="04dcarraher"][QUOTE="Scoob64"]

my GTX 460, which is far from the best out today, blows the PS3 graphics away

drspudz

lol, you have no idea what your talking about and the fact you keep bashing about things you have no idea about. As I own two 8800GT's in sli and the difference between non sli and sli theres a huge difference in performance even with games that dont support SLI. Why? because you can create SLI profiles youeself and the fact that nvidia and the other companies like Evga are always updating the profiles. Do you even understand how SLI works?

[QUOTE="drspudz"][QUOTE="Frozzik"]

and this is a problem why?

Frozzik

Nah, I'm not thatinterested in anything you have to say, it will just be some PC bashing nonsense.

[QUOTE="Frozzik"]

[QUOTE="drspudz"] Eh I'm not gonna repeat myself. If you don't know the argument I was making then just go back a page and see it. drspudz

Nah, I'm not thatinterested in anything you have to say, it will just be some PC bashing nonsense.

the truth? What is the truth?

[QUOTE="drspudz"][QUOTE="04dcarraher"] Heck, even todays sub $100 gpu's are multiple times faster/better then the PS3. 04dcarraher

lol, you have no idea what your talking about and the fact you keep bashing about things you have no idea about. As I own two 8800GT's in sli and the difference between non sli and sli theres a huge difference in performance even with games that dont support SLI. Why? because you can create SLI profiles youeself and the fact that nvidia and the other companies like Evga are always updating the profiles. Do you even understand how SLI works?

[QUOTE="Arach666"]I think the consoles are way ahead of anything the PC has to offer graphically.Jandurin

[QUOTE="XaosII"]

360/PS3 compared to the PC is about the same as Wii compared to 360/PS3.

kobraka1

[QUOTE="04dcarraher"]

[QUOTE="drspudz"] Lol how the hell does any of that mean that devs actually have the time and money to make a game that would fully utilize your precious gpu? Get real, do you wanna know how much of a failure SLI was for games? You guys should be known as the real sheep to be honest because you will go out and buy any of the useless expensive stuff that will give you the tiniest improvement or make it worse/unchanged due to the fact of compatibility issues and games not utilizing or are optimized properly for your hardware. It's endless...it's ridiculous.drspudz

lol, you have no idea what your talking about and the fact you keep bashing about things you have no idea about. As I own two 8800GT's in sli and the difference between non sli and sli theres a huge difference in performance even with games that dont support SLI. Why? because you can create SLI profiles youeself and the fact that nvidia and the other companies like Evga are always updating the profiles. Do you even understand how SLI works?