PC Graphics=Overrated

Ahem.

Yes. Ok, there is a very suddle but big difference between PC graphics and PC game graphics. Excluding high res and anti-alaising, and just focusing on HDR, textures, poly count, and all the core elements that compose what we view on the screen. There isn't much difference between the PC and 360, because game developers design games to work on all platforms, and keep the graphical level for all plat's about the same.

It's work to include extra lighting effects, and bigger textures just for the PC version. Most game developers don't, and therefore don't use the PC to its full graphical extent.

That does not mean that the PC doesn't have graphical power, the reason Crysis is used so much for system war graphic comparisons is that Crysis is a game what fully uses the PC's graphical power, and when Crysis is runned on high-max, it blows everything else away.

Yet, PC's monitors are generally speaking, high res. PC games have sharper graphics, and when a PC exclusive comes out, it graphically blows everything a console could show out of the water. Why? Maybe this is because the top of the line PC video cards cost as much as a console itself. :-).

100000

This was true a year ago.. Now those cards can be had for $100-$200 now.

Ahem.

Yes. Ok, there is a very suddle but big difference between PC graphics and PC game graphics. Excluding high res and anti-alaising, and just focusing on HDR, textures, poly count, and all the core elements that compose what we view on the screen. There isn't much difference between the PC and 360, because game developers design games to work on all platforms, and keep the graphical level for all plat's about the same.

It's work to include extra lighting effects, and bigger textures just for the PC version. Most game developers don't, and therefore don't use the PC to its full graphical extent.

That does not mean that the PC doesn't have graphical power, the reason Crysis is used so much for system war graphic comparisons is that Crysis is a game what fully uses the PC's graphical power, and when Crysis is runned on high-max, it blows everything else away.

Yet, PC's monitors are generally speaking, high res. PC games have sharper graphics, and when a PC exclusive comes out, it graphically blows everything a console could show out of the water. Why? Maybe this is because the top of the line PC video cards cost as much as a console itself. :-).

100000

Not really, PC GPU's are getting very very cheap, cheaper then consoles as a whole now. (GPU's that will run Crysis on High no problem, if we need to set the bar)

All of these cards could be considered high end cards, they will all run Crysis on high. You can spend 250-300 for even more power, but that's just an option these days. Back with the Geforce 3, you had to spend 300-400 for a card to run all the latest games on high, this isn't the case any longer, and it's only getting cheaper. I'm not arguing PC Gaming is cheaper then simple console gaming, but it's certainly attainable for almost anyone to throw in a decent GPU without spending a whole lot, and being happy.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121272

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130414

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127387

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814133202

[QUOTE="zipozal"]

Modded oblivion owned :P

mismajor99

That's a perfect example actually. I really do wish Bethesda gives us a toolset for Fallout 3, but it looks like they want to keep it locked on the GFW Live service...bummer

That game/map in that screenshot uses CryEngine2.

crysis doesnt look that much better and for a graphics card that can do over 3x the amount of the 360 or ps3.... times that by 2 or whatever it is for SLI and Quad etc you would want atleasst 3 times a better looking game and there just isnt that given by the PC

pc gamers bum crysis but tbh asside from the Ice the game just "looks" boring. but thats just my opinion.

Console graphics are just fine. You hermits need to chill. Also Crysis isn't a valid argument anymore.

And I shall end this post by calling hermits... fails!

crysis doesnt look that much better and for a graphics card that can do over 3x the amount of the 360 or ps3.... times that by 2 or whatever it is for SLI and Quad etc you would want atleasst 3 times a better looking game and there just isnt that given by the PC

pc gamers bum crysis but tbh asside from the Ice the game just "looks" boring. but thats just my opinion.

o0squishy0o

I thought the exact same thing before I played Crysis, but it blows anything away, not only in graphics, but in gameplay as well.

[QUOTE="o0squishy0o"]

crysis doesnt look that much better and for a graphics card that can do over 3x the amount of the 360 or ps3.... times that by 2 or whatever it is for SLI and Quad etc you would want atleasst 3 times a better looking game and there just isnt that given by the PC

pc gamers bum crysis but tbh asside from the Ice the game just "looks" boring. but thats just my opinion.

bungie93

I thought the exact same thing before I played Crysis, but it blows anything away, not only in graphics, but in gameplay as well.

well tbh ive never played it so i cant really judge just by screens and gameplay videos ive seen the game. im more of an unreal/quake graphics style fan myself so maybe imitaded realism (asside from racing games) just looks boring lol

Not really, PC GPU's are getting very very cheap, cheaper then consoles as a whole now. (GPU's that will run Crysis on High no problem, if we need to set the bar)

mismajor99

My card can't do that (8800 GT :( ), but a 260 should be able to, for $250 if you catch a good deal.

LOL at those pics in the OP.

consoles cant do 16xAA ffs.anshul89

:lol:

:lol:

like we care enough to pay $$$$ just to remove few jaggies.

like we care enough to pay $$$$ just to remove few jaggies. r_gam3

PC gaming gives you the option, but it is not mandatory. If you want to pay a little extra for your games to look a little better, you can. It's not so with consoles, you just have no choice. I hardly see why this is so funny.

[QUOTE="anshul89"]LOL at those pics in the OP.

consoles cant do 16xAA ffs.r_gam3

:lol:

:lol:

like we care enough to pay $$$$ just to remove few jaggies.

If AA was so un-important then why do you guys constantly hype the hell out of games from bullshots using a tonne of AA and AF, then the game is released, looks nothing like the screenshots and then nothing is said. Then the next game comes along, does the same thing, everyone hypes, game doesn't look like it.

You'd think you guys would cotton on by now.

Haha. Nice bullshots.

Last I checked, no console games utilized 16xS multi+supersampling (or whatever the equivalent is in those bullshots. That's certainly what it looks like to me -- it's sure as hell alot more than 4xMSAA.) Those are promotional screenshots, and they look better than those titles do in-game.

Hell, console games are lucky to be utilizing 4x multisampling at 720p these days..whereas PCs games on high-end machines are pumping out not only much higher resolutions with higher-sample anti-aliasing, but also more complex lighting/shadow/post-processing effects/textures.

It's always funny to see console fanboys fail to take those things in to account and claim the visuals of their titles are even "on par." Maybe towards the beginning of this generation they were "on par", but now: no, they aren't.

[QUOTE="r_gam3"]like we care enough to pay $$$$ just to remove few jaggies. agentfred

PC gaming gives you the option, but it is not mandatory. If you want to pay a little extra for your games to look a little better, you can. It's not so with consoles, you just have no choice. I hardly see why this is so funny.

its funny b/c hermits treat it like a mandatory feature to have.

[QUOTE="agentfred"]

[QUOTE="r_gam3"]like we care enough to pay $$$$ just to remove few jaggies. r_gam3

PC gaming gives you the option, but it is not mandatory. If you want to pay a little extra for your games to look a little better, you can. It's not so with consoles, you just have no choice. I hardly see why this is so funny.

its funny b/c hermits treat it like a mandatory feature to have.

Well... once you can have, you usualy never go back. I mean if you had the option for better quality image wouldn't you use it?

Two things:

-it's not our fault you have primitive taste

-this thread is about graphics, not your game preferences.

AdrianWerner

you seem to be a really positive role model for hermits. thanks for telling me that my tastes are primitive. that's not the least bit condescending or insulting.

Console graphics are just fine. You hermits need to chill. Also Crysis isn't a valid argument anymore.

And I shall end this post by calling hermits... fails!

nalhutta94

say what? Its about a year old and a game has yet to take its place:?

and no Hermits or whatever SW names are don't fail. How does posting Bullshots = Win for the consoles?

[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]

Two things:

-it's not our fault you have primitive taste

-this thread is about graphics, not your game preferences.

clone01

you seem to be a really positive role model for hermits. thanks for telling me that my tastes are primitive. that's not the least bit condescending or insulting.

you were ranting about your personal prefrences and this is a graphics thread not an opinion thread.

[QUOTE="100000"]

Ahem.

Yes. Ok, there is a very suddle but big difference between PC graphics and PC game graphics. Excluding high res and anti-alaising, and just focusing on HDR, textures, poly count, and all the core elements that compose what we view on the screen. There isn't much difference between the PC and 360, because game developers design games to work on all platforms, and keep the graphical level for all plat's about the same.

It's work to include extra lighting effects, and bigger textures just for the PC version. Most game developers don't, and therefore don't use the PC to its full graphical extent.

That does not mean that the PC doesn't have graphical power, the reason Crysis is used so much for system war graphic comparisons is that Crysis is a game what fully uses the PC's graphical power, and when Crysis is runned on high-max, it blows everything else away.

Yet, PC's monitors are generally speaking, high res. PC games have sharper graphics, and when a PC exclusive comes out, it graphically blows everything a console could show out of the water. Why? Maybe this is because the top of the line PC video cards cost as much as a console itself. :-).

mismajor99

Not really, PC GPU's are getting very very cheap, cheaper then consoles as a whole now. (GPU's that will run Crysis on High no problem, if we need to set the bar)

All of these cards could be considered high end cards, they will all run Crysis on high. You can spend 250-300 for even more power, but that's just an option these days. Back with the Geforce 3, you had to spend 300-400 for a card to run all the latest games on high, this isn't the case any longer, and it's only getting cheaper. I'm not arguing PC Gaming is cheaper then simple console gaming, but it's certainly attainable for almost anyone to throw in a decent GPU without spending a whole lot, and being happy.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121272

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130414

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127387

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814133202

Ah, well, I'm a hermit, heh. This is good to know. Last time I bought a vid card was the 8800 GTX on release (even then I got a good deal), and yes, that was pretty expensive. I'm considering upgrading some of my lower-end machines (I rarely get to use the 8800 GTX one, don't ask why)

I think RE5 looks amazeing and is the Console graphics king overrall.JangoWuzHere

I can agree with this statment RE5 is good for eye candy on the console...

you were ranting about your personal prefrences and this is a graphics thread not an opinion thread.

JangoWuzHere

i'd hardly call it a rant. and if you had read a few more posts down, you might have realized that the comment in question was said in jest.