PC is crap for fighters

Thats ok, if you're primarily a PC gamer you probably think fighters are crap too :Pblue_hazy_basic

Not really. I simply got tired of them after Mortal Kombat 4 and the few SNES ones I had. It's just pure coincidence that I don't like them anymore and PC isn't heavy on them. I have good memories of MK4 on PC.

Excuse the provocative title, but it's true :P

You had to wait, like, more than 10 years? for a good 3D fighter (Street Fighter IV). Not to mention how bad the keyboard is for fighters.

While on the consoles the genre is shining. Maybe not as bright as in the 90s, but still.

And remember, no emu talk :P

nameless12345

lmfao dude if you don't like the KB & M for 3d fighters then why wouldn't you just plug in a gamepad. I use my xbox 360 controller all the time on my pc when racing or flighing. Plus who builds a dope rig and uses it for 3d fighters?

[QUOTE="mattuk69"]

Nuff said.

Pixel-Pirate

Again: Why don't I cut out the middle man, save myself 50 dollars and just play on a console that came with a controller?

[QUOTE="nameless12345"]

Excuse the provocative title, but it's true :P

You had to wait, like, more than 10 years? for a good 3D fighter (Street Fighter IV). Not to mention how bad the keyboard is for fighters.

While on the consoles the genre is shining. Maybe not as bright as in the 90s, but still.

And remember, no emu talk :P

streetridaz

lmfao dude if you don't like the KB & M for 3d fighters then why wouldn't you just plug in a gamepad. I use my xbox 360 controller all the time on my pc when racing or flighing. Plus who builds a dope rig and uses it for 3d fighters?

Until just now I realized. How is SS4 a 3D fighter? Or are you talking about the graphics?

Same reason why the PC sucks for sports titles and rhythm games.hiphops_savior

But it does in fighters

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[QUOTE="Calvin079"]

This is true. With the exception of the DS.

Endwar and Halo Wars also did great steps forward in my opinion for console RTS games. With MMO's like FFIV and The Agency I can see a more varied future for consoles.

Yes the PC sucks for fighters but consoles suck for certain genres also as mentioned.

Also, why the hell are people implying the pc gamers would be using a keyboard for fighters?? That's like trying to say console gamers would be using a steering wheel for FPS or the DJ Hero turntable for driving games, it makes no sense. A pc gamer is just as likely to use a stick for fighters as console gamers are.

The PC simply doesn't have as many fighters as the consoles.. but I suppose using the term "Crap for fighters" isn't far from the truth.

oh and btw, using sites/programs that will allow you to DL illegal games isn't a "win" in my book (and I thought that was a no no on the sw's).

Mugen makes this thread a fail, and again, another uninformed attempt at bashing the holy grail of gaming systems known as the PC. ;)Nyuuuu

What nonsense, comparing Mugen to the likes of SSFIV, Tekken 6 and BB:CS (neither of which are available on PC) is a joke.

[QUOTE="Nyuuuu"]Mugen makes this thread a fail, and again, another uninformed attempt at bashing the holy grail of gaming systems known as the PC. ;)thecapsaicinkid

What nonsense, comparing Mugen to the likes of SSFIV, Tekken 6 and BB:CS (neither of which are available on PC) is a joke.

[QUOTE="Nyuuuu"]Mugen makes this thread a fail, and again, another uninformed attempt at bashing the holy grail of gaming systems known as the PC. ;)thecapsaicinkid

What nonsense, comparing Mugen to the likes of SSFIV, Tekken 6 and BB:CS (neither of which are available on PC) is a joke.

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[QUOTE="Nyuuuu"]Mugen makes this thread a fail, and again, another uninformed attempt at bashing the holy grail of gaming systems known as the PC. ;)ucme4k

What nonsense, comparing Mugen to the likes of SSFIV, Tekken 6 and BB:CS (neither of which are available on PC) is a joke.

[QUOTE="Nyuuuu"]Mugen makes this thread a fail, and again, another uninformed attempt at bashing the holy grail of gaming systems known as the PC. ;)thecapsaicinkid

What nonsense, comparing Mugen to the likes of SSFIV, Tekken 6 and BB:CS (neither of which are available on PC) is a joke.

Oh wow a small change in SF4 makes it somehow big.....the PC SF4 has many mods for it.

Don;t really care for Tekken at all and BlazBlue CS is not much different than CT. which is on the PC.

Also CS is on the PC.....it has been since January.

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[QUOTE="Nyuuuu"]Mugen makes this thread a fail, and again, another uninformed attempt at bashing the holy grail of gaming systems known as the PC. ;)Hakkai007

What nonsense, comparing Mugen to the likes of SSFIV, Tekken 6 and BB:CS (neither of which are available on PC) is a joke.

Oh wow a small change in SF4 makes it somehow big.....the PC SF4 has many mods for it.

Don;t really care for Tekken at all and BlazBlue CS is not much different than CT. which is on the PC.

Also CS is on the PC.....it has been since January.

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[QUOTE="thecapsaicinkid"]

What nonsense, comparing Mugen to the likes of SSFIV, Tekken 6 and BB:CS (neither of which are available on PC) is a joke.

siLVURcross

Oh wow a small change in SF4 makes it somehow big.....the PC SF4 has many mods for it.

Don;t really care for Tekken at all and BlazBlue CS is not much different than CT. which is on the PC.

Also CS is on the PC.....it has been since January.

I disagree with TC because of obvious things and because my 360 arcade stick works for pc. The world went about 10 years without a good fighting game, not just PC. The wait between SF4 and 3 was just too long.

[QUOTE="thecapsaicinkid"]

[QUOTE="Nyuuuu"]Mugen makes this thread a fail, and again, another uninformed attempt at bashing the holy grail of gaming systems known as the PC. ;)siLVURcross

What nonsense, comparing Mugen to the likes of SSFIV, Tekken 6 and BB:CS (neither of which are available on PC) is a joke.

Did you mean to further reinforce the argument that the pc is crap for fighters?

[QUOTE="siLVURcross"][QUOTE="thecapsaicinkid"]

What nonsense, comparing Mugen to the likes of SSFIV, Tekken 6 and BB:CS (neither of which are available on PC) is a joke.

thecapsaicinkid

Did you mean to further reinforce the argument that the pc is crap for fighters?

Not to mention how bad the keyboard is for fighters.

nameless12345

Why the *&#% would anyone play a fighting game using a keyboard? :lol::lol::lol:

Dont you know you can use just about any type of controller you want on PC?

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[QUOTE="Nyuuuu"] No a joke is saying SSF4 and tekken 6 are better then mugen. Saying blazblu is better is a comprehensible statement but other then that, joke. SF4 is its basically the same as SSF4(if it were given another name it wouldn't receive half the scores it got). BB:CS is coming to PC and PC already has BB:CT and tekken 6 is a joke. IMO Mugen and blazblu are at another level then the other fighters. I also find it hilarious people have to put all consoles together against PC. That is when u see how dominant the PC is.ucme4k

Sorry where is Mugen on here?

Tekken and SF are massive right now, especially Tekken. You on the other hand being one guy banging on about Mugen which isn't even a game, are a small drop in the ocean.

A game is only as good as its playerbase and SFIV on PC is dead and BB:CT has been superceded completely by CS.

I can buy a 360 for example and play a thriving community of SSFIV, Tekken and BB:CS OR I could get a PC and sit in an empty SFIV lobby all night long or play the cpu in a hacked BB:CS rom.

Lugaru had nice controls tho

Tekken is massive? I don't know anyone who liked 6.

Tekken is massive? I don't know anyone who liked 6.

dovberg

Tekken is big in Japan.

Also, Mugen sucks people, it's not a positive.

Tekken is massive? I don't know anyone who liked 6.

dovberg

It's the number one game played in Japanese arcades.

pc conrtols are awful for it . you will need to buy a game pad.

strange thread

And consoles are crap for RTS's... I don't understand the point being discussed here.. sSubZerOo

his point is extremely clear: he thinks fighting games are a weak genre on the pc. this is like the worst non-answer you can 'contribute' to a discussion like this, since its basically a spam post. actually writing 'pc+1' would have been better because it would take less time to read

IMO Mugen and blazblu are at another level then the other fighters. I also find it hilarious people have to put all consoles together against PC.ucme4k

mugen isnt a game, and on top of that, most of what is produced for mugen is awful, AWFUL garbage. the availablility of it is in theory a positive, but usually that works out so poorly id never mention it as a credible point in a debate over whether the pc has access to good fighting games.

the arguments over control methods are a bit odd because if youre playing a fighting game without a stick then imo you shouldnt bother anyway, and theres a huge range of sticks available for the pc. i built my own. almost anybody can as long as mommy and daddy let you use a soldering iron and a screwdriver.

also, some other peeps mentioned ggpo which allows you to play super turbo lag free. this is a huge plus. ggpo is objectively better than all other ways to play a fighting game online that im aware of.

the availability of more current games on the pc is kind of hurting for some people but the availability of older games is way bigger on the pc, which is a tilt in the pcs favour. if you only play fighting games from like the last two years though then i can understand the percieved weakness of pcs for fighters. for the rest of us who investigate what is available, it is imo much stronger than any console.

mugen isnt a game, and on top of that, most of what is produced for mugen is awful, AWFUL garbage. the availablility of it is in theory a positive, but usually that works out so poorly id never mention it as a credible point in a debate over whether the pc has access to good fighting games.CaptainHarley

Go to any of the big fighting game boards and tell everyone they should be playing Mugen. I'd like to see that.

PC has no SSFIV, no Tekken 6, no BB:CS, no MvC3, no KoFXIII, no SF x Tekken, no Tekken x SF, no MK9, no TvC... need I go on? Arguing the PC is superior for FGs is like arguing consoles are best for RTS or handhelds are best for FPS, it's rediculous. The only thing it has going for it is GGPO and emulators.

So why exactly is a kb bad for fighters? I can list reasons why controllers are bad for shooters.Slow turning, bad aiming, limited keys caused by the fact that 6 of your fingers are used to hold the freaking thing resulting innot being able to perform basic functions like changing weaps without taking thumb off look or move stick.

So why exactly is a kb bad for fighters? I can list reasons why controllers are bad for shooters.Slow turning, bad aiming, limited keys caused by the fact that 6 of your fingers are used to hold the freaking thing resulting innot being able to perform basic functions like changing weaps without taking thumb off look or move stick.

Cranler

SPD.

http://cardgallery.tales-tra.com/main.htm

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WhenCicadasCry

A keyboard is like a fighing stick in arcades :P I see nothing wrong with it except for the lack of an analog stick to move, which is up to preference if someone likes that or d-pad/arrow keys more.

ChubbyGuy40

Can't you just plug in a controller?

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http://cardgallery.tales-tra.com/main.htm

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Can't you just plug in a controller?

hakanakumono

Dont you know that in system wars PCs can't use controllers?

[QUOTE="Cranler"]

So why exactly is a kb bad for fighters? I can list reasons why controllers are bad for shooters.Slow turning, bad aiming, limited keys caused by the fact that 6 of your fingers are used to hold the freaking thing resulting innot being able to perform basic functions like changing weaps without taking thumb off look or move stick.

thecapsaicinkid

SPD.

As I expected, no one can give any specific reasons why keyboard is inferior to controller. I remember people used to say 3rd person shooters were better with controllers but could give no reasons why. What it really boils down to is that a controller isnt as pathetic at fighers as they are at shooters but not better than keyboard.

That is like saying 90% of games made for console X are crap, but lets ignore the other 100 awesome games and while we are at it, lets call it the worse console ,because even though it has more awesome games then the others it also has more crappy games. Ridiculous logic. There lots of great user-created content created for mugen. I find it kind of pathetic people mention SF4 and tekken 6 really having a big community doesn't make a good game, i mean seriously look at halo, crappy game, big community, leagues and stuff. People that say mugen sucked never played the AWESOME USER CREATED CONTENT(just played the **** ones, which exist obvious every system has shovelware, every mod community has shovelware etc etc), consolites, never played any content for mugen or never played it online.ucme4k

mugen isnt a game. mugen isnt a console. its an engine. the fact that almost everything made for mugen completely sucks isnt the point, the point is that arguing that mugen makes the pc better for fighters is like arguging that xbl is the best for games because of the indie gaming development tools, or that every system is awesome because they can use unreal engine (well not the wii). its irrelevant to the discussion at hand.

also, if a platform is flooded by utter garbage and has a few gems, its still pretty much by definition awful. the 3do had star control 2 but that didnt make it a good console.

[QUOTE="thecapsaicinkid"]

SPD.

Cranler

As I expected, no one can give any specific reasons why keyboard is inferior to controller. I remember people used to say 3rd person shooters were better with controllers but could give no reasons why. What it really boils down to is that a controller isnt as pathetic at fighers as they are at shooters but not better than keyboard.

two possibilities i can see here, though more are possible; you either dont know what spd means or youre imagining that a 360 is easy to do on a keyboard; if either of those are true you shouldnt enter discussions on fighting games.

keyboards are awful for fighting games even if some people make it work. whether it works is pretty much irrelevant to the discussion. the arcade stick is the best when talking about fighting games, its not like you talk serious flight sims without considering a flight stick (yes i am aware of some extremely talented pad and kb players but obviously we are speaking in generalities for the purposes of this discussion).

Not really understanding this thread.

TC is debating about Keyboard though the PC can use almost any input device. The whole fighting genre has gone very dull in last 10 years with only the real explosion in last 2 years. PC does not have the Big name fighters but it has had a some games this generation. (Melty Blood: Act Candenza ver B, Street Fighter IV, Million Knights Vermillion, Guilty Gear XX, Crusis Fatal /Fake, Blazblue Calamity Trigger are the ones I have).

When I play fighting games, I actually use SNES arcade sticks. Infact, 2 weeks ago this same argument came up and I posted pictures of the input devices I use.

The Pc is capable of playing any fighters. I think its very arrogant to say it is not considering it has and still is having fighter games made for it.