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#1 SamiRDuran
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While next gen consoles will struggle at 1080p pc gamers will start moving to 4k resolutions in 2013.http://vr-zone.com/articles/sharp-is-ready-for-intel-s-3840x2160-displays/15560.html#

Console gamers are simply destined to be lagging behind.

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u mad console bros?

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YES! Now there are 4,000 small, indiscernible dots on my screen! So excited :D
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#3 APiranhaAteMyVa
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Tablets have already overtaken consoles for resolution.

Next gen consoles really need to be 1080p for the most part, otherwise it will be a bit embarrassing when monitors, notebooks, phones, TVs and tablets will all be running at 1080p or higher resolutions.

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YES! Now there are 4,000 small, indiscernible dots on my screen! So excited :Dcharizard1605
That way you can stop seeing all those pixels if you stop playing your wii :D

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#5 ActionRemix
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4k is what you might want for a small theater screen. It's ridiculous for a 24" monitor.

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#6 tenaka2
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[QUOTE="charizard1605"]YES! Now there are 4,000 small, indiscernible dots on my screen! So excited :Dparkurtommo

That way you can stop seeing all those pixels if you stop playing your wii :D

He is a traditionalist, he prefers the Wii's 27 pixels.

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#8 SolidSnake35
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I'm bored of this slow progress. Make a 15k res monitor and then call it quits for 10 years.
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YES! Now there are 4,000 small, indiscernible dots on my screen! So excited :Dcharizard1605
Try 8,294,400 pixels :cool:
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#10 parkurtommo
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[QUOTE="parkurtommo"]

[QUOTE="charizard1605"]YES! Now there are 4,000 small, indiscernible dots on my screen! So excited :Dtenaka2

That way you can stop seeing all those pixels if you stop playing your wii :D

He is a traditionalist, he prefers the Wii's 27 pixels.

Oh I though it was just 1, brown pixel.
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4k is what you might want for a small theater screen. It's ridiculous for a 24" monitor.

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Well you definitely wouldn't have to worry about jaggies on a 24in monitor with that res.
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YES! Now there are 4,000 small, indiscernible dots on my screen! So excited :Dcharizard1605
typical ignorant console kid. pixel density is everything.
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It will be funny if next gen consoles run most of the games at 720p and some at 1080p, if this happened then console gamers will have to leave SW, or hide

console gamers in SW after 2013:

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[QUOTE="charizard1605"]YES! Now there are 4,000 small, indiscernible dots on my screen! So excited :DSamiRDuran
typical ignorant console kid. pixel density is everything.

Certainly wasn't a few days ago in the thread about the Retina display.

Can't really say I see much of a point with a 4k display unless you're in a professional field such as photo-editing.

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[QUOTE="charizard1605"]YES! Now there are 4,000 small, indiscernible dots on my screen! So excited :DSamiRDuran
typical ignorant console kid. pixel density is everything.

No it isn't. After a certain point, the human eye begins to reach a juncture where it has trouble discerning any active improvements in image quality. Pixel density beyond a certain point is useless, and good only for numbers boasting. For most current screen sizes, both monitors and TV screens, 1080p is good enough. It is the same reason why MP3s, in spite of only retaining 80% of the sound fidelity from the original source, still manage to sound roughly as good to the human ear as an uncompressed format. Because the human ear, like the human eye, loses the ability to distinguish after some time. Also, kid? Go take a hike,
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It will be funny if next gen consoles run most of the games at 720p and some at 1080p, if this happened then console gamers will have to leave SW, or hide

console gamers in SW after 2013:

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MK-Professor

probably a lot of console gamers including myself actually dont care as much as hermits seem to think.

Strange concpet.

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It will be funny if next gen consoles run most of the games at 720p and some at 1080p, if this happened then console gamers will have to leave SW, or hide

console gamers in SW after 2013:

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MK-Professor
I think what you don't understand is that most gamers, including people who game on the PC, like myself, don't quite care about the number of pixels on our screen as much as playing a game itself. It's an alien concept, and it will come as a shock to you, I am sure, but it's how it is.
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[QUOTE="SamiRDuran"][QUOTE="charizard1605"]YES! Now there are 4,000 small, indiscernible dots on my screen! So excited :Dcharizard1605
typical ignorant console kid. pixel density is everything.

No it isn't. After a certain point, the human eye begins to reach a juncture where it has trouble discerning any active improvements in image quality. Pixel density beyond a certain point is useless, and good only for numbers boasting. For most current screen sizes, both monitors and TV screens, 1080p is good enough. It is the same reason why MP3s, in spite of only retaining 80% of the sound fidelity from the original source, still manage to sound roughly as good to the human ear as an uncompressed format. Because the human ear, like the human eye, loses the ability to distinguish after some time. Also, kid? Go take a hike,

yeah make up theories we've heard them before. i saw massive difference between 1080p and 1600p in 30" and i'm sure i will see the same amount of difference when i get my 2160p monitor. I'm also an audiophile, i can hear massive difference between mp3 and lossless songs but again i have a £300 pair of headphones that bring out every little detail. my advice to you is to start enjoying the finest things in life and stop living like a peasant.
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[QUOTE="SamiRDuran"][QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="SamiRDuran"] typical ignorant console kid. pixel density is everything.

No it isn't. After a certain point, the human eye begins to reach a juncture where it has trouble discerning any active improvements in image quality. Pixel density beyond a certain point is useless, and good only for numbers boasting. For most current screen sizes, both monitors and TV screens, 1080p is good enough. It is the same reason why MP3s, in spite of only retaining 80% of the sound fidelity from the original source, still manage to sound roughly as good to the human ear as an uncompressed format. Because the human ear, like the human eye, loses the ability to distinguish after some time. Also, kid? Go take a hike,

yeah make up theories we've heard them before. i saw massive difference between 1080p and 1600p in 30" and i'm sure i will see the same amount of difference when i get my 2160p monitor. I'm also an audiophile, i can hear massive difference between mp3 and lossless songs but again i have a £300 pair of headphones that bring out every little detail. my advice to you is to start enjoying the finest things in life and stop living like a peasant.

Some of us don't care to spend hundreds of dollars on 20% of detail that you cannot reasonably expect to enhance your experience at all. You like to enjoy the finer (incredibly fine, I might add) details? Good on you, especially since you can afford your tastes. However, that does not mean that those who don't care are living like peasants, or have inferior tastes, or anything. It just means they have different priorities, different ideas of what's acceptable, different opinions of what's good. The idea of differing opinions is a shock to you, I am sure, but in time, you will come to accept it.
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#20 MK-Professor
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[QUOTE="MK-Professor"]

It will be funny if next gen consoles run most of the games at 720p and some at 1080p, if this happened then console gamers will have to leave SW, or hide

console gamers in SW after 2013:

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razgriz_101

probably a lot of console gamers including myself actually dont care as much as hermits seem to think.

Strange concpet.

I am pretty sure that it is going to hurt you, when you see me play the latest nextgen maltiplat on 3840x2160 and your next gen little console straggle to maintain 30fps at 720p :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

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#21 WilliamRLBaker
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[QUOTE="charizard1605"]YES! Now there are 4,000 small, indiscernible dots on my screen! So excited :DSamiRDuran
typical ignorant console kid. pixel density is everything.

okay then your not longer allowed to buy beyond 2 gigs of ram, nor pay more then 20 dollars for a used graphics card infact you can only use intel intergrated graphics...etc...etc your only ever allowed to have a high end monitor not the pc capable of running it at high resolutions since the pixel density is all that matters not that you have the ability to use it.
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[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="SamiRDuran"][QUOTE="charizard1605"] No it isn't. After a certain point, the human eye begins to reach a juncture where it has trouble discerning any active improvements in image quality. Pixel density beyond a certain point is useless, and good only for numbers boasting. For most current screen sizes, both monitors and TV screens, 1080p is good enough. It is the same reason why MP3s, in spite of only retaining 80% of the sound fidelity from the original source, still manage to sound roughly as good to the human ear as an uncompressed format. Because the human ear, like the human eye, loses the ability to distinguish after some time. Also, kid? Go take a hike,

yeah make up theories we've heard them before. i saw massive difference between 1080p and 1600p in 30" and i'm sure i will see the same amount of difference when i get my 2160p monitor. I'm also an audiophile, i can hear massive difference between mp3 and lossless songs but again i have a £300 pair of headphones that bring out every little detail. my advice to you is to start enjoying the finest things in life and stop living like a peasant.

Some of us don't care to spend hundreds of dollars on 20% of detail that you cannot reasonably expect to enhance your experience at all. You like to enjoy the finer (incredibly fine, I might add) details? Good on you, especially since you can afford your tastes. However, that does not mean that those who don't care are living like peasants, or have inferior tastes, or anything. It just means they have different priorities, different ideas of what's acceptable, different opinions of what's good. The idea of differing opinions is a shock to you, I am sure, but in time, you will come to accept it.

when you see a 1600p ips monitor from up close you will change your tune. i've had many friends over and their reactions were pretty much the same: BEAUTIFUL the difference can not be ignored unless you are blind.
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[QUOTE="SamiRDuran"][QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="SamiRDuran"] yeah make up theories we've heard them before. i saw massive difference between 1080p and 1600p in 30" and i'm sure i will see the same amount of difference when i get my 2160p monitor. I'm also an audiophile, i can hear massive difference between mp3 and lossless songs but again i have a £300 pair of headphones that bring out every little detail. my advice to you is to start enjoying the finest things in life and stop living like a peasant.

Some of us don't care to spend hundreds of dollars on 20% of detail that you cannot reasonably expect to enhance your experience at all. You like to enjoy the finer (incredibly fine, I might add) details? Good on you, especially since you can afford your tastes. However, that does not mean that those who don't care are living like peasants, or have inferior tastes, or anything. It just means they have different priorities, different ideas of what's acceptable, different opinions of what's good. The idea of differing opinions is a shock to you, I am sure, but in time, you will come to accept it.

when you see a 1600p ips monitor from up close you will change your tune. i've had many friends over and their reactions were pretty much the same: BEAUTIFUL the difference can not be ignored unless you are blind.

I've seen it, it looks lovely and rich, and yes, it is a level of detail that I am aware my displays won't achieve. The difference is, I don't care if they don't.
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#24 Cranler
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4k is what you might want for a small theater screen. It's ridiculous for a 24" monitor.

ActionRemix
then ipad 3's res is ridiculous too then. your brilliance could have saved apple tons of money.
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#25 Cranler
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[QUOTE="SamiRDuran"][QUOTE="charizard1605"]YES! Now there are 4,000 small, indiscernible dots on my screen! So excited :DWilliamRLBaker
typical ignorant console kid. pixel density is everything.

okay then your not longer allowed to buy beyond 2 gigs of ram, nor pay more then 20 dollars for a used graphics card infact you can only use intel intergrated graphics...etc...etc your only ever allowed to have a high end monitor not the pc capable of running it at high resolutions since the pixel density is all that matters not that you have the ability to use it.

to disagree would have been better to bring up texture res, shadows, lighting, draw distance etc.
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[QUOTE="SamiRDuran"][QUOTE="charizard1605"]YES! Now there are 4,000 small, indiscernible dots on my screen! So excited :Dcharizard1605
typical ignorant console kid. pixel density is everything.

No it isn't. After a certain point, the human eye begins to reach a juncture where it has trouble discerning any active improvements in image quality. Pixel density beyond a certain point is useless, and good only for numbers boasting. For most current screen sizes, both monitors and TV screens, 1080p is good enough. It is the same reason why MP3s, in spite of only retaining 80% of the sound fidelity from the original source, still manage to sound roughly as good to the human ear as an uncompressed format. Because the human ear, like the human eye, loses the ability to distinguish after some time. Also, kid? Go take a hike,

We're still far away from that point where human eye cannot see the improvements.Also,large enough pixel density would be of huge importance to gaming,since it would eliminate "jaggies",and the need for AA methods...

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Wow 4K? that's an insane pixel density for small monitors.

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Honestly, who even cares? The original Super Mario Bros. didn't have all this crazy resolution and HD graphics, and I still find it fun to play to this very day.
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#29 Rocker6
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Wow 4K? that's an insane pixel density for small monitors.

seanmcloughlin

Yep,we could say bye-bye to jaggies,and to hardware demanding AA methods like MSAA.

Pixel density would solve all that :)

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Honestly, who even cares? The original Super Mario Bros. didn't have all this crazy resolution and HD graphics, and I still find it fun to play to this very day. Lupin497
Listening to mono records on a gramophone and watching movies in black and white in 4:3 ratio was also OK, but that doesn't mean improvements shouldn't be wanted.
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yeah make up theories we've heard them before. i saw massive difference between 1080p and 1600p in 30" and i'm sure i will see the same amount of difference when i get my 2160p monitor. I'm also an audiophile, i can hear massive difference between mp3 and lossless songs but again i have a £300 pair of headphones that bring out every little detail. my advice to you is to start enjoying the finest things in life and stop living like a peasant.SamiRDuran

Attempting to correlate the difference between those resolutions to the GULF between lossless and mp3 is laughable. I get that you're doing it for effect, but going a bit overboard.

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I have 2gbs of 1080p wallpapers on my laptop. i'll think ill stick with a 1080p for quite some time(i dont really have a 1080p monitor but my monitor is 900p)

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[QUOTE="Lupin497"]Honestly, who even cares? The original Super Mario Bros. didn't have all this crazy resolution and HD graphics, and I still find it fun to play to this very day. APiranhaAteMyVa
Listening to mono records on a gramophone and watching movies in black and white in 4:3 ratio was also OK, but that doesn't mean improvements shouldn't be wanted.

Well is it honestly THAT big of a deal?
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Well, duh. If the Xbox 360 or PS3 tried to run a game at 4k they'd probably explode. :P

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... As a pc gamer I couldn't care less.. The resolutions are fine where they are at right now, I am more concerned in just innovation and overall depth of video games..
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We need hardware to handle that resolution. My PC can handle a 3072x2688 PS2 game but it will explode with any modern game at that res. Let alone rendering 60 of those big frames in one second.

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Lmao! U can barely run games at 1440p, good look running games with 8 times as many pixels as 1440p.
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[QUOTE="SamiRDuran"]yeah make up theories we've heard them before. i saw massive difference between 1080p and 1600p in 30" and i'm sure i will see the same amount of difference when i get my 2160p monitor. I'm also an audiophile, i can hear massive difference between mp3 and lossless songs but again i have a £300 pair of headphones that bring out every little detail. my advice to you is to start enjoying the finest things in life and stop living like a peasant.sadmaker

Attempting to correlate the difference between those resolutions to the GULF between lossless and mp3 is laughable. I get that you're doing it for effect, but going a bit overboard.

i didnt bring that comparison up.
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[QUOTE="SamiRDuran"][QUOTE="sadmaker"]

yeah make up theories we've heard them before. i saw massive difference between 1080p and 1600p in 30" and i'm sure i will see the same amount of difference when i get my 2160p monitor. I'm also an audiophile, i can hear massive difference between mp3 and lossless songs but again i have a £300 pair of headphones that bring out every little detail. my advice to you is to start enjoying the finest things in life and stop living like a peasant.SamiRDuran

Attempting to correlate the difference between those resolutions to the GULF between lossless and mp3 is laughable. I get that you're doing it for effect, but going a bit overboard.

i didnt bring that comparison up.

Indeed you didnt. I deleted the wrong QUOTE box.
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5760x1080 here:cool:

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YES! Now there are 4,000 small, indiscernible dots on my screen! So excited :Dcharizard1605

when you play on a decent sized tv / monitor you will realize those 4k dots combine to make a better image than 700 dots.

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#43 The_Game21x
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YES! Now there are 4,000 small, indiscernible dots on my screen! So excited :Dcharizard1605

You say that like a bad thing. :?

Say what you will about the iPhone but its display is worlds better than the likes of the 3DS (or worse...the XL).

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[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

Wow 4K? that's an insane pixel density for small monitors.

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Yep,we could say bye-bye to jaggies,and to hardware demanding AA methods like MSAA.

Pixel density would solve all that :)

That's what I was thinking BUT the game will be very hard to render anyway

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[QUOTE="charizard1605"]YES! Now there are 4,000 small, indiscernible dots on my screen! So excited :DKrelian-co

when you play on a decent sized tv / monitor you will realize those 4k dots combine to make a better image than 700 dots.

It's not even 4K pixels. It's far far higher than that. It's like 8 million pixels

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#46 Rocker6
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[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

Wow 4K? that's an insane pixel density for small monitors.

seanmcloughlin

Yep,we could say bye-bye to jaggies,and to hardware demanding AA methods like MSAA.

Pixel density would solve all that :)

That's what I was thinking BUT the game will be very hard to render anyway

When 4K becomes a standard,we'll have GPUs and other hardware that will be up to the task,as always,so I wouldn't worry about that :)

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#47 lundy86_4
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Not too fussed. I'm actually quite happy at 1080p for now (I used to play at 1920x1200).

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#48 N30F3N1X
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It will be funny if next gen consoles run most of the games at 720p and some at 1080p, if this happened then console gamers will have to leave SW, or hide

console gamers in SW after 2007:

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Fixed.

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#49 Loegi
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Why are they doing this just now? Only because of Apple? That's kind of sad actually.
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#50 APiranhaAteMyVa
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Why are they doing this just now? Only because of Apple? That's kind of sad actually.Loegi
no this has been in the works before Apple. Modern digital movie cameras now shoot in 4k and they started making 4k backups of movies when bluray was introduced. This was always going to be the case, but Apple introducing their retina line may speed up the process. I think once mainstream OLED TV's start getting introduced to market in 2-4 years we may start seeing them with 4k support. Although the internet and TV are a bit slow at the moment/not enough bandwidth, so 4k outside of monitors won't become that useful for quite a few years.