PC Owns all in 2009: Part 2

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#51 Vandalvideo
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All the games I listed are 7.0 or higher and are not available on PC.

And if you don't like RTS? You're stuck with Sims 3 and Zeno Clash for 09? :|

Please list some more games before you audaciously claim PC destroys everything on consoles for 09.

Jackboot343
And consoles are less than stellar if you dislike shooters, your point? Besides, the PC still has some great recent adventure games.
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#52 789shadow
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How does a list of 10 games destroy the combined strength of the games on all the other platforms?

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#53 gamefan274
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Let me explain to you WHY console gamers don't like the PC. First, its exclusives aren't for everyone. I personally like 3rd person games, especially platformers and action adventures. Games like Ratchet and Clank caused me to buy a PS3 because sequels are awesome since you get a bigger piece of the story for each game. Other franchises, like Uncharted and even LBP have nothing to compare to on a PC. I am also not interested in any games you mentioned. Besides, the PS3 has just as many great games coming out this year at the same quality, inFamous, Uncharted 2, Ratchet and Clank Future a Crack in Time, MAG, Killzone 2, Heavy Rain, God of War 3, MLB 09 the Show (it counts, only on 1 HD console), and plenty more that I don't care about as much. Most of those games will be AAA (I'll say only 2 won't) and keep in mind this is excluding the multiplats the PC doesn't get like Street Fighter 4 (I may be wrong here) and many others. The system with the best library depends on preference.
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#54 UMBRAlingering
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[QUOTE="death919"]

[QUOTE="adamosmaki"]

Build a gaming pc ( building one is quite easy you know)

adamosmaki

I think people who build PCs underestimate how hard it is to build one though because the average person would get all of those parts and not know where the heck to start from there, then it turns into some multi-night project of researching how to build one and then you put it all together and press the power button and it doesn't turn on.

It might be frustrating the first time but there are alot of places you can get help. Trusted sites which are about pc hardware like toms hardware are one place. You can watch video tutorials how to build one over the internet. You can find a friend to help you with. Even if someone still dont wanna build you can find good prebuilds like the Crysis Pc which is about $700 or there are companies that build you a gaming pc for a reasonable price at the 700-1000 range. But the most cost effective is to build it your own

someone with minimal hardware kwnolege can build one. its somehow like LEGO
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#55 gamer620
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[QUOTE="UMBRAlingering"] ,in hardware my ps3 can perform better than 90% of Personal computers world wide.

My PC can perform better than 100% of PS3s worldwide. I hope you see the stupidity in your argument. You may as well say Your PS3 can out perform 100% of the wii's worldwide. Of course your PS3 can outperform 90% of PCs because 90% of the PCs world wide are not GAMING machines. You take that 10% (that you claim) that your PS3 CAN'T beat, are the ones that are used by the very same people that would end up picking up a PS3. AKA GAMERS. Your argument can go any way except when compared to the same demographic.
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#56 Vandalvideo
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] someone with minimal hardware kwnolege can build one. its somehow like LEGO UMBRAlingering
It is more like making breakfast. Bagels go in the toaster's conveniently shaped bagel slot, toast goes in the conveniently shaped toast slot, eggs go on the griddle, and hash goes in the oven.
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#57 The_AI
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How does a list of 10 games destroy the combined strength of the games on all the other platforms?

789shadow

Dragon Age Origins will most likely be at its best on the PC. And if you've been watching this game, you know that it's an absolute must have (well, if you're an RPG fan).

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#58 unknown37
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The only ones that I care about on that list are DoW2, Sims 3, and starcraft 2;I'll pass on everything else. Besides, PC 2010 is where its at
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#59 killa4lyfe
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Sims 3? Are you serious? Starcraft II yes... but Sims 3?DPhunkT
jus wondering if u have even played sims 2?:? have u?
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#60 UMBRAlingering
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[QUOTE="gamer620"][QUOTE="UMBRAlingering"] ,in hardware my ps3 can perform better than 90% of Personal computers world wide.

My PC can perform better than 100% of PS3s worldwide. I hope you see the stupidity in your argument. You may as well say Your PS3 can out perform 100% of the wii's worldwide. Of course your PS3 can outperform 90% of PCs because 90% of the PCs world wide are not GAMING machines. You take that 10% (that you claim) that your PS3 CAN'T beat, are the ones that are used by the very same people that would end up picking up a PS3. AKA GAMERS. Your argument can go any way except when compared to the same demographic.

yes stupid argument used to counterrest another sptupid argument(PC OWNZ CONSOLE)
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#61 dc337
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Since the first one was locked due to lack of content, here you go:

1. Empire Total War

2. Dawn of War 2

3. Men of War

4. Starcraft 2- (atleast one part should be released)

5. Sims 3

6. Anno 1404

7. Demigod

8. Zeno Clash

These alone destroy everything on consoles. PC- System of every year! I dare you to prove me wrong.

scoobiesnackarf

Wow pc gaming has become so sad. I'm supposed to get excited over a list of rts games? Or perhaps I should be thrilled about all the delayed console ports that the pc is getting this year?

The pc should be called the delaystation due to the number of late console ports it now gets. The worst part is that the pc version is the most likely to have bugs. See GTAIV as a class a example.

Oh and you forgot about the only pc game that I will be buying this year next to starcraft: Diablo 3.

Even with gems like Diablo the PC is still a sad shell of its former self. Only sims, warcraft and rts fans have anything to get excited about.

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#62 Gta3-fan334
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Heh, my pc was $500 and I can play crysis on high. :o

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#63 Vandalvideo
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Even with gems like Diablo the PC is still a sad shell of its former self. Only sims, warcraft and rts fans have anything to get excited about.dc337
Console variety isn't all that great right now either; what with horror and JRPG games practically in life throws at the momment. At the same time, adventure games on the PC are making a strong comeback; The Path, The Experiment, Vampyre Story, and Still Life 2 (among others). Not only that, but despite being a 'shell of its former self', it still has the most announced exclusives and highly rated titles.
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[QUOTE="death919"]

[QUOTE="adamosmaki"]

Build a gaming pc ( building one is quite easy you know)

The_AI

I think people who build PCs underestimate how hard it is to build one though because the average person would get all of those parts and not know where the heck to start from there, then it turns into some multi-night project of researching how to build one and then you put it all together and press the power button and it doesn't turn on.

It's actually easier than you think it is. Sure, you need to have some motor skills and the ability to follow directions, but if you can do that, you've got yourself a (decent) PC.

And spending nights researching how to build one? Google is your friend.

i always thought replacing the CPU or putting it there in the first place on the MB was needed to be done really really carefully as u can not screw up anything.:?
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#65 789shadow
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[QUOTE="789shadow"]

How does a list of 10 games destroy the combined strength of the games on all the other platforms?

The_AI

Dragon Age Origins will most likely be at its best on the PC. And if you've been watching this game, you know that it's an absolute must have (well, if you're an RPG fan).

That's not the question. Is the list of 10 games given better than the combined quality libraries of all the other systems, as the OP asked? No, no way.

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#66 Vandalvideo
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That's not the question. Is the list of 10 games given better than the combined quality libraries of all the other systems, as the OP asked? No, no way.789shadow
The TC's terminology is outdated anyway. PCs, by modern english standards, are video game consoles.
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#67 DonPerian
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Agh! Sims 3! can't wait. They just HAD to delay it. I was so excited, I lost most the hype. Hopefully the game will blow away my expectations. Other than that, I'm not interested in any of the other titles you listed. The 360 has more to offer this year for me. It's all a matter of preference. Consider yourself "proven wrong."
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#68 789shadow
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[QUOTE="789shadow"]That's not the question. Is the list of 10 games given better than the combined quality libraries of all the other systems, as the OP asked? No, no way.Vandalvideo
The TC's terminology is outdated anyway. PCs, by modern english standards, are video game consoles.

I have no clue what you just said, but OK.:P

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#69 Vandalvideo
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I have no clue what you just said, but OK.:P789shadow
I'll make it simple. PCs are consoles.
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[QUOTE="UMBRAlingering"][QUOTE="adamosmaki"][QUOTE="UMBRAlingering"] yes great! i cant play those on my laptop. so you could say. 2000$ gamming pc owns > consoles. my ps3 can perform better than 90% of Personal computers world wide.

But i can can say a $600 gaming pc owns

yes? 600$ with blu ray? i dont think so.....i would say 1000$ minimun for a good gaming PC. an we are talking about hardware...

Blu-ray http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827106294 $90. Add a good $60 on the price of a PC as a normal DVD drive (no burner) is $30 at cheapest. Next?
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#71 789shadow
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[QUOTE="789shadow"]I have no clue what you just said, but OK.:PVandalvideo
I'll make it simple. PCs are consoles.

Not really. How about "PCs are gaming machines."?

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#72 Vandalvideo
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Not really. How about "PCs are gaming machines."?789shadow
Yes, really. As video game consoles are defined in dictionaries now because of their multimedia functions, PCs qualify.
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#73 789shadow
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[QUOTE="789shadow"]Not really. How about "PCs are gaming machines."?Vandalvideo
Yes, really. As video game consoles are defined in dictionaries now because of their multimedia functions, PCs qualify.

But for the sake of clarity, let's go with "gaming machines", OK?

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#74 Vandalvideo
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But for the sake of clarity, let's go with "gaming machines", OK?789shadow
PCs are consoles now, by fact. Rat packing all of the other platforms together against the PC is unfair. Plain and simple.
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#75 789shadow
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[QUOTE="789shadow"]But for the sake of clarity, let's go with "gaming machines", OK?Vandalvideo
PCs are consoles now, by fact. Rat packing all of the other platforms together against the PC is unfair. Plain and simple.

"Gaming machines", gosh darn it!!!!!!:x:P

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#76 rcignoni
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The damage control on the first page made me lol very hard.
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#77 HenriH-42
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TBH there isn't anything that really interests me currently on any platform.

PC is still the king, because of the AMAZING back catalogue. I have too many games to play even during this drought.

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#78 Timmeus
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I thought this was supposed to be about games, there's like two pages about hardware.

Empire Total War is the only game on that interest me and apart that and Star Craft it's a pretty weak list.

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#79 scoobiesnackarf
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All anybody has to do is go to Adrian Werner's Why its good to be a PC Gamer in 09 and see that the list blows away all consoles combined. http://adrianwerner.wordpress.com/games-of-2009/

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#80 adamosmaki
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All the games I listed are 7.0 or higher and are not available on PC.

And if you don't like RTS? You're stuck with Sims 3 and Zeno Clash for 09? :|

Please list some more games before you audaciously claim PC destroys everything on consoles for 09.

Jackboot343

Easy enough
Cryostasis
A new stalker is coming this year
Black mesa - Which will be free
Americas army 3- again is free and based on unreal engine 3
Dragensang-Rpg
AaaaaAAaaaAAAaaAAAAaAAAAA!!! A Reckless Disregard for Gravity- I just played the Alpha version which you can download in the makers site for free and is very addictive game and something different

But if you want to see whats coming this year on pc here is a list. Just because most pc games dont get hyped to hell and back it doesnt mean that they are bad or that there is a lack of them

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#81 vidplayer8
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I'm into RPGs, and I don't see Final Fantasy XIII or White Knight Chronicles on the PC, so no thanks.

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#82 V4LENT1NE
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LOL at Empire Total War being on that list, one of the buggiest games ever released, their official forums were a mess for the first 2 months with complaints. Good game but broken beyond a joke, and you can see from my sig it was nothing to do with hardware, just a crappy coded/optimized, buggy, frustrating game.
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#83 scoobiesnackarf
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The Stalker series blows away FF games, sorry. Visually, mods, game play, lack of the gaming getting repetitive. Another reason PC wins.
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#84 agentfred
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Your list is pretty incomplete, but I concur.

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#85 Vandalvideo
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I'm into RPGs, and I don't see Final Fantasy XIII or White Knight Chronicles on the PC, so no thanks.

vidplayer8
Wouldn't it be more accurate to say you're into JRPGs? I mean, the PC currently has a competing ammount of great RPG games; King's Bounty, The Witcher, Demigod, and Elven Legacy just to name a few.
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#86 scoobiesnackarf
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[QUOTE="vidplayer8"]

I'm into RPGs, and I don't see Final Fantasy XIII or White Knight Chronicles on the PC, so no thanks.

Vandalvideo
Wouldn't it be more accurate to say you're into JRPGs? I mean, the PC currently has a competing ammount of great RPG games; King's Bounty, The Witcher, Demigod, and Elven Legacy just to name a few.

Bingo! Witcher and Kings Bounty are simply fantastic.
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#87 agentfred
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Bingo! Witcher and Kings Bounty are simply fantastic. scoobiesnackarf
Yep, Armored Princess is my most anticipated game this year. :)

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#88 Couth_
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Crysis Maximum. That's the only 2009 game I bought, and am planning to buy. Though technically I also bought the Witcher and Left4Dead :P
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[QUOTE="scoobiesnackarf"][QUOTE="UMBRAlingering"][QUOTE="scoobiesnackarf"]

Since the first one was locked due to lack of content, here you go:

1. Empire Total War

2. Dawn of War 2

3. Men of War

4. Starcraft 2- (atleast one part should be released)

5. Sims 3

6. Anno 1404

7. Demigod

8. Zeno Clash

These alone destroy everything on consoles. PC- System of every year! I dare you to prove me wrong.

yes great! i cant play those on my laptop. so you could say. 2000$ gamming pc owns > consoles. my ps3 can perform better than 90% of Personal computers world wide.

Really? $2,000? This has been debunked more times than need be. Nice straw man.

My $500 laptop can outperform a ps3. My $800 computer can way outperform a ps3. Perhaps you paid too much for your laptop because if you wanted to beat out the ps3, it shouldnt cost you $2000...
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The Stalker series blows away FF games, sorry. Visually, mods, game play, lack of the gaming getting repetitive. Another reason PC wins.scoobiesnackarf
their not even comparable...
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#91 scoobiesnackarf
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[QUOTE="Phazevariance"] My $500 laptop can outperform a ps3. My $800 computer can way outperform a ps3. Perhaps you paid too much for your laptop because if you wanted to beat out the ps3, it shouldnt cost you $2000...

Exactly. The consoles last for 6 months if that in terms of outdoing PC visually. After that first 6 months, PC's jump ahead for another generation. Consoles are nice but PC is king.
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#92 Squeets
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Build a gaming pc ( building one is quite easy you know)

adamosmaki

Yeah it is easy to "build it"... but configuring it in the BIOS is a whole other beast... it seems easy to me now like it does for all PC enthusiast... but the first time I built a PC, I damn near fried everything trying to figure out the BIOS...

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#93 Vandalvideo
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[QUOTE="scoobiesnackarf"]The Stalker series blows away FF games, sorry. Visually, mods, game play, lack of the gaming getting repetitive. Another reason PC wins.kidcool189
their not even comparable...

Sure they are. Final Fantasy; the standardized laughing stalk of JRPGs, and Stalker, one of the more innovative WRPGs of recent years.
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#94 Vandalvideo
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[QUOTE="adamosmaki"]

Build a gaming pc ( building one is quite easy you know)

Squeets

Yeah it is easy to "build it"... but configuring it in the BIOS is a whole other beast... it seems easy to me now like it does for all PC enthusiast... but the first time I built a PC, I damn near fried everything trying to figure out the BIOS...

What on earth are you doing tweaking the BIOS unless you're trying to overclock your rig?
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Another example of the PC's superiority.

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#96 f50p90
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[QUOTE="kidcool189"][QUOTE="scoobiesnackarf"]The Stalker series blows away FF games, sorry. Visually, mods, game play, lack of the gaming getting repetitive. Another reason PC wins.Vandalvideo
their not even comparable...

Sure they are. Final Fantasy; the standardized laughing stalk of JRPGs, and Stalker, one of the more innovative WRPGs of recent years.

Stalker is a laughing stock with it's weak sales and endless bugs.. FF is one of the best series in video games... And stalker is an FPS so no
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#97 GundamGuy0
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Your list doesn't appeal to me personally. Have fun though.

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#98 kidcool189
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[QUOTE="kidcool189"][QUOTE="scoobiesnackarf"]The Stalker series blows away FF games, sorry. Visually, mods, game play, lack of the gaming getting repetitive. Another reason PC wins.Vandalvideo
their not even comparable...

Sure they are. Final Fantasy; the standardized laughing stalk of JRPGs, and Stalker, one of the more innovative WRPGs of recent years.

ok...good one... i love the FF series, and i loved both stalkers id say stalker certianly plays more like an fps w/ rpg elements, than a full out wrpg but their both generally different games and provide completely different experinces and is silly to compare the 2
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#99 Vandalvideo
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]Stalker is a laughing stock with it's weak sales and endless bugs.. FF is one of the best series in video games... And stalker is an FPS so nof50p90
Stalker is a FPS/WRPG hybrid, like most other WRPGs games nowadays. Stalker's bugs are largely blown out of porportion by the reviewing community at large who are too jaded to realize most console games have just as many bugs. I mean, Mass Effect nearly made me want to choke a kitten it was so bad. With that said; Final Fantasy is hardly one of the best series in video games. It is one of the worse JRPG franchises in terms of originality, and its stories are outdone by many of the other franchises. About the only thing it has going for it is massive sums of money, which Square is running out of.
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#100 Squeets
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[QUOTE="Phazevariance"] My $500 laptop can outperform a ps3. My $800 computer can way outperform a ps3. Perhaps you paid too much for your laptop because if you wanted to beat out the ps3, it shouldnt cost you $2000...scoobiesnackarf
Exactly. The consoles last for 6 months if that in terms of outdoing PC visually. After that first 6 months, PC's jump ahead for another generation. Consoles are nice but PC is king.

Yeah, but after those 6 months... you need to buy a PS3's price worth of new hardware to run those advancements... not a really big deal in the past few years (because the standard has been x16/LGA775)... but lookat i7... those blow everything away now, but to take advantage of them... you need to upgrade your mobo (to x58) and RAM (to DDR3), which wasn't the case since 2002ish... I have had the same motherboard and ram in my PC for almost 3 years now... but if I want to upgrade anymore... I need to replace all of my parts... which will cost well over $700 (x58 ~$200, i7 ~$200, DDR3 ~$100-200 *depending on amount*, GPU ~$200-$300)..