PC to utilize 6 core gaming [56k]

@1920*1080 it doesn't matter if you have an Athlon X2 or a i7 980X, as long as you have a decent videocard. Except for a few games where ai and stuff can get very massive, like RTS and Arma 2.

[QUOTE="Mystic-G"][QUOTE="NVIDIATI"] :? its only $200 for a 1055T, also the Cryengine 3 for example, can use up to 8 cores. Next year Bulldozer comes outwith an 8 core version and from what I heard there is also a 12 core version. I could only hope by the time new consoles come out that they have at least a 6 or 8 core cpu.

theshadowhunter

[QUOTE="theshadowhunter"]

[QUOTE="Mystic-G"] Like I said... there's absolutely no need for it. Mystic-G

[QUOTE="theshadowhunter"]

[QUOTE="Mystic-G"] Like I said... there's absolutely no need for it. Mystic-G

[QUOTE="Mystic-G"][QUOTE="theshadowhunter"] just like in 2005 right, when dual cores came out, and there is absolutely no need for that right? thats the reason that many people had so much issues with vista (2007) they had SLOW single core cpus....

NVIDIATI

[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"]I dont understand it with Metro 2033, the game doesnt even make use of quads. Why would it use Hex-cores then? BUt my $100 overclocked 3.5ghz quad is still pumping out games pretty well.ZoomZoom2490

the only game on the market right now that uses more than 2 cores is BFBC2.

i had a gtx480 with a dual core and was pumping 40fps, once i got a quad core im pumpin now 75-80fps.

I just got a quad core for goodness sake.:evil:

[QUOTE="NVIDIATI"]

[QUOTE="Mystic-G"] Unless Sony and Microsoft go 6-core next time around, I don't see any real use for it, just bragging rights that you have a 6-core processor. Mystic-G

As long as games are still running great on a quad-core, there's no reason for me to buy a hexacore CPU. Show me 1 game that I can't run above 30fps with my quad, show me that it runs better on a hexacore, and I'll think about it.

[QUOTE="Mystic-G"][QUOTE="NVIDIATI"] What does Sony and MS have to do with how PC developers make their games? Just because Crysis 2 is on 360 and PS3 doesn't stop it from using up to 8 cores on PC.

NVIDIATI

[QUOTE="theshadowhunter"]

[QUOTE="Mystic-G"] Like I said... there's absolutely no need for it. Mystic-G

Actually the next major step in gaming..tech wise..at least on the pc..is cpu/gpu graphics card..

:o

AMD planning big things for its Fusion of the future.

AMD's initial product based on its Fusion initiative, codenamed Llano, is now sampling with vendors. This first iteration will combine the GPU and CPU on the same die, which will drive down power requirements and costs.

While Llano will be based off of Phenom II technology and will be paired with ATI Radeon GPU design, AMD says that its next-generation Fusion will blur the line between CPU and GPU. That next big change is planned for 2015, Leslie Sobon, vice president of marketing at AMD, told IDG .

how many games actually use quad core even?

how many games actually use quad core even?

WilliamRLBaker

[QUOTE="Mystic-G"][QUOTE="theshadowhunter"] just like in 2005 right, when dual cores came out, and there is absolutely no need for that right? thats the reason that many people had so much issues with vista (2007) they had SLOW single core cpus....

devious742

Actually the next major step in gaming..tech wise..at least on the pc..is cpu/gpu graphics card..

:o

AMD planning big things for its Fusion of the future.

AMD's initial product based on its Fusion initiative, codenamed Llano, is now sampling with vendors. This first iteration will combine the GPU and CPU on the same die, which will drive down power requirements and costs.

While Llano will be based off of Phenom II technology and will be paired with ATI Radeon GPU design, AMD says that its next-generation Fusion will blur the line between CPU and GPU. That next big change is planned for 2015, Leslie Sobon, vice president of marketing at AMD, told IDG .

It's gonna be a long while before that gets to mainstream consumers. I'd love to see it though, would make things a lot more easier.

[QUOTE="NVIDIATI"]

[QUOTE="Mystic-G"] I didn't say it couldn't but what about a single or a few games justify blowing money on a 6-core or 8-core processor? Where its at is the other massive chunk of games where they're also developed for consoles. If you think it's justified, good for you. I'm just stating my personal opinion. Mystic-G

Im upgrading my PC for this monster:

Octacores here i come.

[QUOTE="Mystic-G"][QUOTE="NVIDIATI"] This is what people said about dual core and quad core for gaming... I got my Q6600 around its launch time and it turns out loads of games now use 4 cores. 6 and 8 core is just that next step.

NVIDIATI

[QUOTE="NVIDIATI"]

[QUOTE="Mystic-G"] Oh of course it is... but it's gonna have to wait until consoles make use of it. I still see both the PS4 and 720 having fast 4-core processors. But eh, that's just my speculation. Mystic-G

[QUOTE="Mystic-G"][QUOTE="NVIDIATI"] Why would PC have to wait for consoles? :?

NVIDIATI

[QUOTE="Mystic-G"][QUOTE="NVIDIATI"] Why would PC have to wait for consoles? :?

NVIDIATI

[QUOTE="NVIDIATI"]

[QUOTE="Mystic-G"] Because many of the most played games are multiplatform?Fightingfan

Ugh, I hope 6 and 8 core gaming is at least 5-6 years away from becoming the norm.

That's funny. I can't think of a single game that manages to max out all 4 cores of my I7 as it is now.

Now, I did'nt even bother checking your link but are you sure that those improvements are even a matter of extra cores?

I'm asking because, general concencus right now is that we're still not at the point where even four cores are properly utilized.

Filthybastrd

Yeah, that is the cost of progress my son.... the industry, very much like time, waits for no one -

as profit is dependent on a variable called "timing"- so best you get your wallet ready, as 6 core is HERE!!!!! - check this, by the time you get it and start enjoyin - 12 core or something will be in - you watch

[QUOTE="Filthybastrd"]

That's funny. I can't think of a single game that manages to max out all 4 cores of my I7 as it is now.

Now, I did'nt even bother checking your link but are you sure that those improvements are even a matter of extra cores?

I'm asking because, general concencus right now is that we're still not at the point where even four cores are properly utilized.

sturshel

Yeah, that is the cost of progress my son.... the industry, very much like time, waits for no one -

as profit is dependent on a variable called "timing"- so best you get your wallet ready, as 6 core is HERE!!!!! - check this, by the time you get it and start enjoyin - 12 core or something will be in - you watch

But the reality is that all games run just fine on a quad-core. I don't need to get my wallet ready.

[QUOTE="sturshel"]

[QUOTE="Filthybastrd"]

That's funny. I can't think of a single game that manages to max out all 4 cores of my I7 as it is now.

Now, I did'nt even bother checking your link but are you sure that those improvements are even a matter of extra cores?

I'm asking because, general concencus right now is that we're still not at the point where even four cores are properly utilized.

hartsickdiscipl

Yeah, that is the cost of progress my son.... the industry, very much like time, waits for no one -

as profit is dependent on a variable called "timing"- so best you get your wallet ready, as 6 core is HERE!!!!! - check this, by the time you get it and start enjoyin - 12 core or something will be in - you watch

But the reality is that all games run just fine on a quad-core. I don't need to get my wallet ready.

[QUOTE="sturshel"]

[QUOTE="Filthybastrd"]

That's funny. I can't think of a single game that manages to max out all 4 cores of my I7 as it is now.

Now, I did'nt even bother checking your link but are you sure that those improvements are even a matter of extra cores?

I'm asking because, general concencus right now is that we're still not at the point where even four cores are properly utilized.

hartsickdiscipl

Yeah, that is the cost of progress my son.... the industry, very much like time, waits for no one -

as profit is dependent on a variable called "timing"- so best you get your wallet ready, as 6 core is HERE!!!!! - check this, by the time you get it and start enjoyin - 12 core or something will be in - you watch

But the reality is that all games run just fine on a quad-core. I don't need to get my wallet ready.

Yeah, good for you! See thats what I keep saying to myself - except in relation to my PS3, so the question is, buddy, why be a pc gamer, yes? when you aint keeping up with the times?

That is why I bought a console and gave up on the whole, " i have to upgrade bi monthly" thing.

But good for you!!!! Fly in the face of change - you show 'em

[QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

[QUOTE="sturshel"]

Yeah, that is the cost of progress my son.... the industry, very much like time, waits for no one -

as profit is dependent on a variable called "timing"- so best you get your wallet ready, as 6 core is HERE!!!!! - check this, by the time you get it and start enjoyin - 12 core or something will be in - you watch

sturshel

But the reality is that all games run just fine on a quad-core. I don't need to get my wallet ready.

Yeah, good for you! See thats what I keep saying to myself - except in relation to my PS3, so the question is, buddy, why be a pc gamer, yes? when you aint keeping up with the times?

That is why I bought a console and gave up on the whole, " i have to upgrade bi monthly" thing.

But good for you!!!! Fly in the face of change - you show 'em

A good PC lasts you 2-3 years if you want to play with max settings. Consoles have you stay with sub-Hd resolutions with low settings. You pay for what you get, and I don't mind spending extra for more quality.

[QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

[QUOTE="sturshel"]

Yeah, that is the cost of progress my son.... the industry, very much like time, waits for no one -

as profit is dependent on a variable called "timing"- so best you get your wallet ready, as 6 core is HERE!!!!! - check this, by the time you get it and start enjoyin - 12 core or something will be in - you watch

sturshel

But the reality is that all games run just fine on a quad-core. I don't need to get my wallet ready.

Yeah, good for you! See thats what I keep saying to myself - except in relation to my PS3, so the question is, buddy, why be a pc gamer, yes? when you aint keeping up with the times?

That is why I bought a console and gave up on the whole, " i have to upgrade bi monthly" thing.

But good for you!!!! Fly in the face of change - you show 'em

No.. the point of PC gaming for me is to customize my computer and enjoy the best gaming experience available, whether on my 1080p monitor or on a bigger HD TV. The fact is that you can build a gaming PC for about $900 and make it through 3-4 years of playing games on high or medium settings without issue. And the games are typically cheaper than console games. I don't see a problem. Why would I upgrade to the latest and greatest all the time if my existing hardware plays games perfectly? PC hardware may become outdated pretty quickly, because of the rate that new tech. comes out.. But that doesn't make stuff that's 2, 3, even 4 years old useless. There just aren't any games that need more than a decent quad-core to run well.

Still have my Quad... :)

[QUOTE="Fightingfan"][QUOTE="NVIDIATI"] PC has loads of exclusives and because a game is multiplatform doesn't mean it won't be optimized to work with PC hardware.

NVIDIATI

[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]

how many games actually use quad core even?

Mystic-G

[QUOTE="sturshel"]

[QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

But the reality is that all games run just fine on a quad-core. I don't need to get my wallet ready.

hartsickdiscipl

Yeah, good for you! See thats what I keep saying to myself - except in relation to my PS3, so the question is, buddy, why be a pc gamer, yes? when you aint keeping up with the times?

That is why I bought a console and gave up on the whole, " i have to upgrade bi monthly" thing.

But good for you!!!! Fly in the face of change - you show 'em

No.. the point of PC gaming for me is to customize my computer and enjoy the best gaming experience available, whether on my 1080p monitor or on a bigger HD TV. The fact is that you can build a gaming PC for about $900 and make it through 3-4 years of playing games on high or medium settings without issue. And the games are typically cheaper than console games. I don't see a problem. Why would I upgrade to the latest and greatest all the time if my existing hardware plays games perfectly? PC hardware may become outdated pretty quickly, because of the rate that new tech. comes out.. But that doesn't make stuff that's 2, 3, even 4 years old useless. There just aren't any games that need more than a decent quad-core to run well.

Actually there are none of those. I'm sure he's being sarcastic

Now I did go back and check the link and it provides very little info.

You also need to keep in mind that they (most likely) set the resolution very low to keep the GPUs from bottlenecking so at 1080p you're not likely to gain anything whatsoever for gaming if you already happen to own a capable CPU.

Also, as others have mentioned, Metro 2033 does'nt seem to benefit when going form duo to quad so why should upping the cores to a total of 6 help? What's the game even doing there? Did they even tell us which CPUs they compare? The amount of cores is'nt necessarily the determining speed factor...

Edit: Whoops, I read many instead of any.

Editedit: I'll take the "very little info" part of my post back. The link provides absolutely none.

[QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

[QUOTE="sturshel"]

Yeah, that is the cost of progress my son.... the industry, very much like time, waits for no one -

as profit is dependent on a variable called "timing"- so best you get your wallet ready, as 6 core is HERE!!!!! - check this, by the time you get it and start enjoyin - 12 core or something will be in - you watch

sturshel

But the reality is that all games run just fine on a quad-core. I don't need to get my wallet ready.

Yeah, good for you! See thats what I keep saying to myself - except in relation to my PS3, so the question is, buddy, why be a pc gamer, yes? when you aint keeping up with the times?

That is why I bought a console and gave up on the whole, " i have to upgrade bi monthly" thing.

But good for you!!!! Fly in the face of change - you show 'em

[QUOTE="funsohng"]Yay! does this mean quad core is really cheap now??subrosian

God bless PC gaming.

[QUOTE="subrosian"][QUOTE="funsohng"]Yay! does this mean quad core is really cheap now??Wasdie

God bless PC gaming.

No lie. I'm traveling quite a bit this year for work, and I needed a tiny PC (must fit in a backpack, monitor, keyboard, mouse and headphones included) for gaming on the go. I want to start playing Starcraft competitively, so that means daily practice. I built this, everything included, for $600:

ZERGLING

Monitor- HP 2010i 20" 1600 x 900

Keyboard - Microsoft Arc Wireless

Mouse- SteelSeries Kinzu

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CPU - AMD Athlon II x4 640

RAM - Mushkin 4gb DDR3 - 1333

GPU- Palit GTS 450 1gb low profile

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Case - Xion 810p HTTP

Mobo- MSI micro ATX 690g

PSU- Xion 450w

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OS- Windows 7 64-bit Pro

HDD - Samsung 250gb SATA3 2.5"

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That's pretty solid for $600. Keep in mind that includes everything. I'm just using a Targus bag, mouse and pair of headphone I already own, though you could add $60 if you needed to buy those I suppose. This system is completely mobile, in total it's weighing in under 20 lbs, so it's easy to move to a new hotel room every night.

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PC gaming is surprisingly affordable.

My quad core phenom II is doing just fine so I don't care.

[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

[QUOTE="subrosian"] 4-core processors start around $94, 6-core processors are around $199 subrosian

God bless PC gaming.

No lie. I'm traveling quite a bit this year for work, and I needed a tiny PC (must fit in a backpack, monitor, keyboard, mouse and headphones included) for gaming on the go. I want to start playing Starcraft competitively, so that means daily practice. I built this, everything included, for $600:

ZERGLING

Monitor- HP 2010i 20" 1600 x 900

Keyboard - Microsoft Arc Wireless

Mouse- SteelSeries Kinzu

-

CPU- AMD Athlon II x4 640

RAM- Mushkin 4gb DDR3 - 1333

GPU- Palit GTS 450 1gb low profile

-

Case- Xion 810p HTTP

Mobo- MSI micro ATX 690g

PSU- Xion 450w

-

OS- Windows 7 64-bit Pro

HDD - Samsung 250gb SATA3 2.5"

-

That's pretty solid for $600. Keep in mind that includes everything. I'm just using a Targus bag, mouse and pair of headphone I already own, though you could add $60 if you needed to buy those I suppose. This system is completely mobile, in total it's weighing in under 20 lbs, so it's easy to move to a new hotel room every night.

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PC gaming is surprisingly affordable.

[QUOTE="subrosian"]

[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

God bless PC gaming.

NVIDIATI

No lie. I'm traveling quite a bit this year for work, and I needed a tiny PC (must fit in a backpack, monitor, keyboard, mouse and headphones included) for gaming on the go. I want to start playing Starcraft competitively, so that means daily practice. I built this, everything included, for $600:

ZERGLING

Monitor- HP 2010i 20" 1600 x 900

Keyboard - Microsoft Arc Wireless

Mouse- SteelSeries Kinzu

-

CPU- AMD Athlon II x4 640

RAM- Mushkin 4gb DDR3 - 1333

GPU- Palit GTS 450 1gb low profile

-

Case- Xion 810p HTTP

Mobo- MSI micro ATX 690g

PSU- Xion 450w

-

OS- Windows 7 64-bit Pro

HDD - Samsung 250gb SATA3 2.5"

-

That's pretty solid for $600. Keep in mind that includes everything. I'm just using a Targus bag, mouse and pair of headphone I already own, though you could add $60 if you needed to buy those I suppose. This system is completely mobile, in total it's weighing in under 20 lbs, so it's easy to move to a new hotel room every night.

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PC gaming is surprisingly affordable.

That's funny. I can't think of a single game that manages to max out all 4 cores of my I7 as it is now.

Now, I did'nt even bother checking your link but are you sure that those improvements are even a matter of extra cores?

I'm asking because, general concencus right now is that we're still not at the point where even four cores are properly utilized.

Filthybastrd

Dragon Age uses a good 85%-99% of my i5 750

[QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

[QUOTE="sturshel"]

Yeah, that is the cost of progress my son.... the industry, very much like time, waits for no one -

as profit is dependent on a variable called "timing"- so best you get your wallet ready, as 6 core is HERE!!!!! - check this, by the time you get it and start enjoyin - 12 core or something will be in - you watch

sturshel

But the reality is that all games run just fine on a quad-core. I don't need to get my wallet ready.

Yeah, good for you! See thats what I keep saying to myself - except in relation to my PS3, so the question is, buddy, why be a pc gamer, yes? when you aint keeping up with the times?

That is why I bought a console and gave up on the whole, " i have to upgrade bi monthly" thing.

But good for you!!!! Fly in the face of change - you show 'em

The only reason consoles last longer is because you never feel the pressure to upgrade. You could buy a PC equal to the 360 and it'll last just as long as the 360.

I think I'll keep my i7 950 OC'd @ 4.2ghz, thank you very much

I think I'll keep my i7 950 OC'd @ 4.2ghz, thank you very much

BigBoss154

i7 950? What a waste of money.

[QUOTE="NVIDIATI"]

[QUOTE="subrosian"]

No lie. I'm traveling quite a bit this year for work, and I needed a tiny PC (must fit in a backpack, monitor, keyboard, mouse and headphones included) for gaming on the go. I want to start playing Starcraft competitively, so that means daily practice. I built this, everything included, for $600:

ZERGLING

Monitor- HP 2010i 20" 1600 x 900

Keyboard - Microsoft Arc Wireless

Mouse- SteelSeries Kinzu

-

CPU- AMD Athlon II x4 640

RAM- Mushkin 4gb DDR3 - 1333

GPU- Palit GTS 450 1gb low profile

-

Case- Xion 810p HTTP

Mobo- MSI micro ATX 690g

PSU- Xion 450w

-

OS- Windows 7 64-bit Pro

HDD - Samsung 250gb SATA3 2.5"

-

That's pretty solid for $600. Keep in mind that includes everything. I'm just using a Targus bag, mouse and pair of headphone I already own, though you could add $60 if you needed to buy those I suppose. This system is completely mobile, in total it's weighing in under 20 lbs, so it's easy to move to a new hotel room every night.

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PC gaming is surprisingly affordable.

True_Gamer_

[QUOTE="BigBoss154"]

I think I'll keep my i7 950 OC'd @ 4.2ghz, thank you very much

DeckardLee2010

i7 950? What a waste of money.

It's only about £230...how is that a waste?

But I wouldn't call this 20lbs thing that portable :P Though is seems to work for him and that's all that really matters.NVIDIATI

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Plus, $600 in total, monitor, mouse, keyboard, OS, etc... included. That's pretty incredible all around... the kind of laptop that matches the performance would costs thousands as the mobility parts are significantly slower. I.E. a Core i5 mobile is not a Core i5, a GTS 450m is not a GTS 450. I tried Starcraft 2 on sub-$1000 laptops and I just wasn't happy with the performance. I need to be able pretty seriously if I'm going to get back into competitive gaming.