PCs are brilliant, powerful and useful...BUT NOT FOR VIDEO GAMING!

[QUOTE="muscleserge"][QUOTE="ScrunchMuppet"][QUOTE="the_one34"]

This is obviously flamebait. Shoddy hardware? How exactly is my Razer mouse shoddy hardware? My Logitech G15 shoddy hardware? My 9800GX2 shoddy hardware?

Please explain.

ScrunchMuppet

Oh no, it's fantastic hardware. It just ain't well suited to games.

No, they're GAMING consoles, hence they are for GAMING.

[QUOTE="the_one34"][QUOTE="ScrunchMuppet"][QUOTE="james28893"][QUOTE="ScrunchMuppet"][QUOTE="the_one34"]

This is obviously flamebait. Shoddy hardware? How exactly is my Razer mouse shoddy hardware? My Logitech G15 shoddy hardware? My 9800GX2 shoddy hardware?

Please explain.

ScrunchMuppet

Oh no, it's fantastic hardware. It just ain't well suited to games.

Crysis, World in Conflict?

Uh, yes? Do you think spouting out game names somehow wins you the argument?

Allow me to retort, again: Big Rigs.

What the HELL does Bg Rigs have ANYTHING to do with the argument?

When people think of PC games, they immediately think of Big Rigs. I'm not denying that the PC has good games, but Big Rigs, unfortunately, defines PC gaming.

Sigged.

Allow me to retort, again: Big Rigs.ScrunchMuppet

What is your favorite game?

Compelling argument for 200, Alex.

[QUOTE="muscleserge"][QUOTE="ScrunchMuppet"][QUOTE="the_one34"]

This is obviously flamebait. Shoddy hardware? How exactly is my Razer mouse shoddy hardware? My Logitech G15 shoddy hardware? My 9800GX2 shoddy hardware?

Please explain.

ScrunchMuppet

Oh no, it's fantastic hardware. It just ain't well suited to games.

No, they're GAMING consoles, hence they are for GAMING.

[QUOTE="the_one34"][QUOTE="ScrunchMuppet"][QUOTE="james28893"][QUOTE="ScrunchMuppet"][QUOTE="the_one34"]

This is obviously flamebait. Shoddy hardware? How exactly is my Razer mouse shoddy hardware? My Logitech G15 shoddy hardware? My 9800GX2 shoddy hardware?

Please explain.

ScrunchMuppet

Oh no, it's fantastic hardware. It just ain't well suited to games.

Crysis, World in Conflict?

Uh, yes? Do you think spouting out game names somehow wins you the argument?

Allow me to retort, again: Big Rigs.

What the HELL does Bg Rigs have ANYTHING to do with the argument?

When people think of PC games, they immediately think of Big Rigs. I'm not denying that the PC has good games, but Big Rigs, unfortunately, defines PC gaming.

Actually i think of crysis, mods, hardware customisation, WoW and no thats not the only argument i have for pc gaming.

[QUOTE="ScrunchMuppet"][QUOTE="muscleserge"][QUOTE="ScrunchMuppet"][QUOTE="the_one34"]

This is obviously flamebait. Shoddy hardware? How exactly is my Razer mouse shoddy hardware? My Logitech G15 shoddy hardware? My 9800GX2 shoddy hardware?

Please explain.

Tiefster

Oh no, it's fantastic hardware. It just ain't well suited to games.

No, they're GAMING consoles, hence they are for GAMING.

All the numbers and stats in the world can't save you from Big Rigs.

Look I appreciate that the PC has a few games that are slightly better than mediocre (Star Wars 1 Racer was pretty cool). But power doesn't equal good games. And that's what consoles offer in spades. For all its simplicity, Tetris can own any of these so called "powerhouses" like Crysis and World In Conflict (sound like some terrible metal band a 12 year old would listen to) becuase it's a better designed game.

And Big Rigs...man, still not recovering from that nightmare.

Two words, hermits: Big Rigs.ScrunchMuppet

Ahem:

Anubis II

Hour of Victory

Championship Sprint

Well, he's convinced me. I'm giving up PC gaming for good.

After all, Big Rigs.:(

All the numbers and stats in the world can't save you from Big Rigs.

Look I appreciate that the PC has a few games that are slightly better than mediocre (Star Wars 1 Racer was pretty cool). But power doesn't equal good games. And that's what consoles offer in spades. For all its simplicity, Tetris can own any of these so called "powerhouses" like Crysis and World In Conflict (sound like some terrible metal band a 12 year old would listen to) becuase it's a better designed game.

And Big Rigs...man, still not recovering from that nightmare.

ScrunchMuppet

What is the difference between a PS3, an Xbox 360, a Wii and a PC? A couple of answers there - first off, the PS3 is the obvious winner. But secondly, the PS3, 360 and Wii are gaming consoles, whilst the PC is not. I'll repeat that - they are GAMING consoles. What's a PC? A personal computer? Where's the gaming?

Can a PC offer original, innovative platformers like Ratchett and Clank, with its clunky keyboard as a control scheme? No.

Can a PC offer unparalled racing simulation with responsive controls, with its clunky keyboard as a control scheme? No.

Can a PC offer engrossing, in depth RPGs with precise controls, with its clunky keyboard as a control scheme? No.

Not a knock at the keyboard or the PC - it wrote me this message after all. But why don't the hermits just stick to writing emails and doing Excel spreadsheets, and leave the real gaming to the big boys, k?

ScrunchMuppet

This thread is hilarious! :lol:

Why are we even trying to argue with this guy?the_one34

We like punching muppets?

[QUOTE="the_one34"]Why are we even trying to argue with this guy?mjarantilla

We like punching muppets?

It's hard to do it properly over the internet :)

[QUOTE="the_one34"]Why are we even trying to argue with this guy?mjarantilla

We like punching muppets?

i tottaly agree not to mention its dorky and expensivemichaelt7

Dorky?

[QUOTE="Tiefster"][QUOTE="ScrunchMuppet"][QUOTE="muscleserge"][QUOTE="ScrunchMuppet"][QUOTE="the_one34"]

This is obviously flamebait. Shoddy hardware? How exactly is my Razer mouse shoddy hardware? My Logitech G15 shoddy hardware? My 9800GX2 shoddy hardware?

Please explain.

ScrunchMuppet

Oh no, it's fantastic hardware. It just ain't well suited to games.

No, they're GAMING consoles, hence they are for GAMING.

All the numbers and stats in the world can't save you from Big Rigs.

Look I appreciate that the PC has a few games that are slightly better than mediocre (Star Wars 1 Racer was pretty cool). But power doesn't equal good games. And that's what consoles offer in spades. For all its simplicity, Tetris can own any of these so called "powerhouses" like Crysis and World In Conflict (sound like some terrible metal band a 12 year old would listen to) becuase it's a better designed game.

And Big Rigs...man, still not recovering from that nightmare.

[QUOTE="james28893"]And that's why there are USB ports. You fail.ScrunchMuppet

So you admit they keyboards are awful for gaming then?

Depends on a genre. Pads also are awful for some genres

[QUOTE="Tiefster"][QUOTE="ScrunchMuppet"][QUOTE="muscleserge"][QUOTE="ScrunchMuppet"][QUOTE="the_one34"]

This is obviously flamebait. Shoddy hardware? How exactly is my Razer mouse shoddy hardware? My Logitech G15 shoddy hardware? My 9800GX2 shoddy hardware?

Please explain.

ScrunchMuppet

Oh no, it's fantastic hardware. It just ain't well suited to games.

No, they're GAMING consoles, hence they are for GAMING.

All the numbers and stats in the world can't save you from Big Rigs.

Look I appreciate that the PC has a few games that are slightly better than mediocre (Star Wars 1 Racer was pretty cool). But power doesn't equal good games. And that's what consoles offer in spades. For all its simplicity, Tetris can own any of these so called "powerhouses" like Crysis and World In Conflict (sound like some terrible metal band a 12 year old would listen to) becuase it's a better designed game.

And Big Rigs...man, still not recovering from that nightmare.

And you just got owned

What is the difference between a PS3, an Xbox 360, a Wii and a PC? A couple of answers there - first off, the PS3 is the obvious winner. But secondly, the PS3, 360 and Wii are gaming consoles, whilst the PC is not. I'll repeat that - they are GAMING consoles. What's a PC? A personal computer? Where's the gaming?

Can a PC offer original, innovative platformers like Ratchett and Clank, with its clunky keyboard as a control scheme? No.

Can a PC offer unparalled racing simulation with responsive controls, with its clunky keyboard as a control scheme? No.

Can a PC offer engrossing, in depth RPGs with precise controls, with its clunky keyboard as a control scheme? No.

Not a knock at the keyboard or the PC - it wrote me this message after all. But why don't the hermits just stick to writing emails and doing Excel spreadsheets, and leave the real gaming to the big boys, k?

ScrunchMuppet

Can a console offer original, innovative Real Time Strategys games like Starcraft with it's controller? No

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Your opinion gets my stamp of...

What is the difference between a PS3, an Xbox 360, a Wii and a PC? A couple of answers there - first off, the PS3 is the obvious winner. But secondly, the PS3, 360 and Wii are gaming consoles, whilst the PC is not. I'll repeat that - they are GAMING consoles. What's a PC? A personal computer? Where's the gaming?

Can a PC offer original, innovative platformers like Ratchett and Clank, with its clunky keyboard as a control scheme? Yes seeing that you can use ANY controller you wish.

Can a PC offer unparalled racing simulation with responsive controls, with its clunky keyboard as a control scheme? Yes, just read my above red text.

Can a PC offer engrossing, in depth RPGs with precise controls, with its clunky keyboard as a control scheme? Read above red text for obvious answer.

Not a knock at the keyboard or the PC - it wrote me this message after all. But why don't the hermits just stick to writing emails and doing Excel spreadsheets, and leave the real gaming to the big boys, k?

ScrunchMuppet

And no my PC is not a gaming console, it is a gaming PC......DUH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

What is the difference between a PS3, an Xbox 360, a Wii and a PC? A couple of answers there - first off, the PS3 is the obvious winner. But secondly, the PS3, 360 and Wii are gaming consoles, whilst the PC is not. I'll repeat that - they are GAMING consoles. What's a PC? A personal computer? Where's the gaming?

Can a PC offer original, innovative platformers like Ratchett and Clank, with its clunky keyboard as a control scheme? No.

Can a PC offer unparalled racing simulation with responsive controls, with its clunky keyboard as a control scheme? No.

Can a PC offer engrossing, in depth RPGs with precise controls, with its clunky keyboard as a control scheme? No.

Not a knock at the keyboard or the PC - it wrote me this message after all. But why don't the hermits just stick to writing emails and doing Excel spreadsheets, and leave the real gaming to the big boys, k?

ScrunchMuppet

You dont like keyboard and mouse buy a cheap gamepad., You Like racing games buy a steering wheel . Best Rpg's are on PC (Have you ever heard of diablo?) And how a gamepad is more precise than mouse?

Can a console offer unparalled RTS simulation with its chunky gamepad? No

Can a console offer Fps experience like pc's can with its unprecise gamepad? no

Can console's offer the graphics pc's offer? No

[QUOTE="james28893"]And that's why there are USB ports. You fail.ScrunchMuppet

So you admit they keyboards are awful for gaming then?

What is the difference between a PS3, an Xbox 360, a Wii and a PC?

ScrunchMuppet

Ohhh, I know, I know! PC has the best games, while the XBox and the PS3 have watered down games that try to be PC games but aren't as good, while the Wii has games that are it's own thing.

[QUOTE="the_one34"]

This is obviously flamebait. Shoddy hardware? How exactly is my Razer mouse shoddy hardware? My Logitech G15 shoddy hardware? My 9800GX2 shoddy hardware?

Please explain.

ScrunchMuppet

Oh no, it's fantastic hardware. It just ain't well suited to games.

[QUOTE="ScrunchMuppet"]Two words, hermits: Big Rigs.james28893

Anubis II.

TSHBO

[QUOTE="james28893"]

[QUOTE="ScrunchMuppet"]Two words, hermits: Big Rigs.mingo123

Anubis II.

TSHBO

Isn't it Consoles versus the PC once again? Then it's not TSHBO but The Consolites Have Been Owned! Way to spin things. The TC is an obvious cow as well.

:|

Just by buying a PC, THHBO.ScrunchMuppet

Humour me here, why are consoles good?

[QUOTE="Tiefster"][QUOTE="ScrunchMuppet"][QUOTE="muscleserge"][QUOTE="ScrunchMuppet"][QUOTE="the_one34"]

This is obviously flamebait. Shoddy hardware? How exactly is my Razer mouse shoddy hardware? My Logitech G15 shoddy hardware? My 9800GX2 shoddy hardware?

Please explain.

ScrunchMuppet

Oh no, it's fantastic hardware. It just ain't well suited to games.

No, they're GAMING consoles, hence they are for GAMING.

All the numbers and stats in the world can't save you from Big Rigs.

Look I appreciate that the PC has a few games that are slightly better than mediocre (Star Wars 1 Racer was pretty cool). But power doesn't equal good games. And that's what consoles offer in spades. For all its simplicity, Tetris can own any of these so called "powerhouses" like Crysis and World In Conflict (sound like some terrible metal band a 12 year old would listen to) becuase it's a better designed game.

And Big Rigs...man, still not recovering from that nightmare.

you do know that Tetris came out on the PC years before it came out on consoles......

Obvious troll, is obvious.

[QUOTE="ScrunchMuppet"]

What is the difference between a PS3, an Xbox 360, a Wii and a PC? A couple of answers there - first off, the PS3 is the obvious winner. But secondly, the PS3, 360 and Wii are gaming consoles, whilst the PC is not. I'll repeat that - they are GAMING consoles. What's a PC? A personal computer? Where's the gaming?

Can a PC offer original, innovative platformers like Ratchett and Clank, with its clunky keyboard as a control scheme? No.

Can a PC offer unparalled racing simulation with responsive controls, with its clunky keyboard as a control scheme? No.

Can a PC offer engrossing, in depth RPGs with precise controls, with its clunky keyboard as a control scheme? No.

Not a knock at the keyboard or the PC - it wrote me this message after all. But why don't the hermits just stick to writing emails and doing Excel spreadsheets, and leave the real gaming to the big boys, k?

kidcool189

Hehe. NeverWinter Nights? Baldurs Gate? The Witcher? I would love to see somebody play those games with a PS3 gamepad.

[QUOTE="muscleserge"][QUOTE="ScrunchMuppet"][QUOTE="the_one34"]

This is obviously flamebait. Shoddy hardware? How exactly is my Razer mouse shoddy hardware? My Logitech G15 shoddy hardware? My 9800GX2 shoddy hardware?

Please explain.

ScrunchMuppet

Oh no, it's fantastic hardware. It just ain't well suited to games.

No, they're GAMING consoles, hence they are for GAMING.

And my PC is a GAMING PC, hence it is for Gaming.

You see, Dell even has its own line of GAMING PC's.

http://www.dell.com/xps

Look, there happens to be a number of entire COMPANIES devoted to Gaming PC's.

http://www.alienware.com/

http://www.falcon-nw.com/

And look, there is even a Wiki page for a GAMING PC

so..... did I just win?

What is the difference between a PS3, an Xbox 360, a Wii and a PC? A couple of answers there - first off, the PS3 is the obvious winner. But secondly, the PS3, 360 and Wii are gaming consoles, whilst the PC is not. I'll repeat that - they are GAMING consoles. What's a PC? A personal computer? Where's the gaming?

Can a PC offer original, innovative platformers like Ratchett and Clank, with its clunky keyboard as a control scheme? No.

Can a PC offer unparalled racing simulation with responsive controls, with its clunky keyboard as a control scheme? No.

Can a PC offer engrossing, in depth RPGs with precise controls, with its clunky keyboard as a control scheme? No.

Not a knock at the keyboard or the PC - it wrote me this message after all. But why don't the hermits just stick to writing emails and doing Excel spreadsheets, and leave the real gaming to the big boys, k?

ScrunchMuppet

Well dude, if you don't like keyboard that much, there's a pretty simple solution for ya: go and buy X360 controller, plug it in your USB port, and there ya go!

And regarding that games you mentioned...

1. There are tons of fun free/indie/mods platformers on PC also.

2. You might try-out rFactor, Live for Speed, GTR 2...

3. Erm... really, what?

Can a PC offer engrossing, in depth RPGs with precise controls, with its clunky keyboard as a control scheme? No.

ScrunchMuppet

[QUOTE="james28893"]And that's why there are USB ports. You fail.ScrunchMuppet

So you admit they keyboards are awful for gaming then?

No, he is saying that keyboard & mouse isn't the end all solution for gaming. Its great for many things just like a dpad is great for fighters and a analog is great for platformers. Each has its respective place. Don't want to play a platformer with a k & m? Then go out and buy a gamepad you bum. Its not like its impossible to have one on PC. And I don't want to hear that PC doesn't come with a gamepad. Because it doesn't come with anything unless you make it so. Thats why its a open ended platform.

Also, can't play rpgs with the k & m? The Witcher says Hi!

PC games in general aren't as good as console games. If I had consoles without PC gaming, I wouldn't feel like I was missing out on much. If I had PC without consoles, I'd feel like I'm missing out on SO much.

Meh.