PC's>>>>Consoles this argument needs to end

i think hermit should stop bashing console . your problem isnt console gaming its piracy and you know that.legol1

Yes Doom 4, Operation Flashpoint 2, Alan Wake are multiplat,but those games in particular are being developed for pc as lead platform. Being developed seperately then the console version not a simple port!ducati101

Of course a console based game will hold back the PC version, but multiplats can go both ways. Not all are held back by console hardware.

There are also a few of multiplat games that will take advantage of the PC's extra power in the future (such as Doom 4, Operation Flashpoint 2, Alan Wake etc)steve17989

Aren't they all multiplat titles? How will they be taking advantage of the PC's extra power other that higher resolutions and frame rates?

Thats a geniune question....I'm not saying that they won't be better versions, i've just not heard anything to say any different.

Alan Wake will be using DX10 effects exclusive to PC. Operation Flashpoint 2 will feature 32 player multiplayer for the PC version. Doom 4 will look significantly better than the console versions, according to John Carmack

Yes Doom 4, Operation Flashpoint 2, Alan Wake are multiplat,but those games in particular are being developed for pc as lead platform. ducati101

Is this opinion or fact? I only ask because as regards operation flashpoint 2, so far all the info that I am seeing on this one, makes me feel that the 360 is the lead platform.

its such a mute point that pc is far supperior then any console. i think its time for the argument to die and for the console fanboys to stop their fruitless battle and constant self ownage, and for them to just ececpt that pc is the far supperior gaming platform and where the hardcore of the hardcore come to play. some of the exsamples why pc>>>>>console are

1. for 600-700$ you can get a pc a whole gen ahead of the current consoles that can do a million more things then any of the current gen consoles. and that 600 dollar investment will be a good one because you will only have to worry about 200$ upgrades every 4-5 years or so, this means you end up saving money in the long run, instead of paying 400-500 dollars every 4-5 years your only spending 200 dollars every 4-5 years. plus the free online saves you bundles in the long run

2. this goes with out saying but. PC graphics make console graphics look like a joke. for 100$ you can own a video card that is atleast 10-20 times better then both of the consoles.

3. First person shooters seem to be the way games are heading and nothing handles first person controls better then a mouse and keyboard

4. MODS MODS MODS. for exsample i have about 9 extra gigs dedicated to oblivion mods which adds 100s of hours of extra game play thats not avalible to the console versions. user created maps! thats another thing theres still only about 10 or so TF2 maps for the consoles where theres a magnitude of them on pc now,it just makes more of your 40$ dollar game purchase which brings me to my next point

5. Games are 10-20$ cheaper on pc

6. 100% backwards compatiblity

7. does everything. pc does litterally everything but make you eggs

8. TRUE HD GRAPHICS. not the uppscalled junk the consoles do

9. guarrenteed future. the PC out lived consoles once, it can do it again."im talking about the gaming crash of 1983 for the younger ppl"

10. its the hardcore platform. PC is not for casuals. if your a pc gamer you know your among other serious gamers, and not have to worry about the hella noob that blasts your whole team away in L4D and ect.

these are my points and most other hermits will back me up here. plz console fanboys stop self owning yourselfs with saying that console x is better then pc cause its just not true, its fact that pc is better. scientific fact, no killzone to doesnt even come close to any pc game realsed in the last 3 years nor does GEOW 2, the battle is over. pc wins period. if you feel bad about it get yourselfs gaming pc's:D you wont regret it i promiss8)

voodoochild815

You lost me on the misuse of the 4th word which I believe you meant to say "moot". One is not in fact better than the other ok yes consoles are better but I do not care to go into depth on this. The PC gamers will always try to justify their rigs pricetags and constatnt upgrading but the truth is most people want to just plug and play. I know I will never convince a PC gamer otherwise but I think PC developers showing alot of interest in console gaming speaks volumes all by itself.

Killzone 2 and Gears of War 2 doesn't come close to ANY PC game released in the last three years... Are you freaking serious? What about crap like "You Are Empty?" Everything else: I've heard it all before, and I still like consoles better. But if you like PC better, good for you.DeathScape666

People like the op and this guy i have quoted make me laugh. You sticj with your console or PC. I personally will play both. Sure, PC is my 1st choice but some games just feel better on console. Not to mention i get access to exclusives from both sides. I win you lose.

[QUOTE="steve17989"][QUOTE="angryfodder"]

Aren't they all multiplat titles? How will they be taking advantage of the PC's extra power other that higher resolutions and frame rates?

Thats a geniune question....I'm not saying that they won't be better versions, i've just not heard anything to say any different.

angryfodder

Alan Wake will be using DX10 effects exclusive to PC. Operation Flashpoint 2 will feature 32 player multiplayer for the PC version. Doom 4 will look significantly better than the console versions, according to John Carmack

Yes, multiplats tend to be the same games on all platforms. These changes aren't just higher resolutions, more AA or more frames, there will be a notable difference between the console and PC versions graphically, and even concerning gameplay if you look at Operation Flashpoint 2. The developers acknowledge that the extra power it there, and use it to benefit the PC version.

[QUOTE="ducati101"]Yes Doom 4, Operation Flashpoint 2, Alan Wake are multiplat,but those games in particular are being developed for pc as lead platform. angryfodder

Is this opinion or fact? I only ask because as regards operation flashpoint 2, so far all the info that I am seeing on this one, makes me feel that the 360 is the lead platform.

Complete fact, confirmed by the developer. Here is an article at gamespot also confirming it.

[QUOTE="angryfodder"]

[QUOTE="ducati101"]Yes Doom 4, Operation Flashpoint 2, Alan Wake are multiplat,but those games in particular are being developed for pc as lead platform. steve17989

Is this opinion or fact? I only ask because as regards operation flashpoint 2, so far all the info that I am seeing on this one, makes me feel that the 360 is the lead platform.

Complete fact, confirmed by the developer. Here is an article at gamespot also confirming it.

Cool, cheers for the info - it looks like it is shaping up really well.

I didn't see anything to confirm that it was a different game on the PC though or that PC was the lead platform - just the usual short comings on console as regards multiplayer etc?

anyone?voodoochild815

Looks to me by "BUMPING" your own thread so soon you are looking for more of an argument rather than a discussion. And I do agree....PC does better console for surfing online, processing my pics, videos, messeging buddys, downloading songs, programs, ect ...BUT its not better at gaming no matter how many times pcgamers post these threads.

OF course, "BEST" is a matter of opinion, so always remember than when trying to give a "BEST" thread....

Yes, multiplats tend to be the same games on all platforms. These changes aren't just higher resolutions, more AA or more frames, there will be a notable difference between the console and PC versions graphically, and even concerning gameplay if you look at Operation Flashpoint 2. The developers acknowledge that the extra power it there, and use it to benefit the PC version. steve17989

Have they given any actual real gameplay benefits other than graphical? Advanced enemy AI on PC? Larger maps? Bigger more details missions? Greater number of enemy AI?

Its a fact mate,Operation Flashpoint is lead on pc.The pc version though will be more of a simulation,for example no cockpit view on console version.ducati101

I wouldn't be surprised if it was the lead platform - it was ported to console last time from the PC lead platform. I only ask because I saw a big preview of the game and in the version they were using to show it off, they kept refering to the xbox.

I would be surprised if there were no cockpit views though as these are not really an aspect that can't be done on console....operation flashpoint elite on the old xbox has them lol

[QUOTE="steve17989"]Yes, multiplats tend to be the same games on all platforms. These changes aren't just higher resolutions, more AA or more frames, there will be a notable difference between the console and PC versions graphically, and even concerning gameplay if you look at Operation Flashpoint 2. The developers acknowledge that the extra power it there, and use it to benefit the PC version. angryfodder

Have they given any actual real gameplay benefits other than graphical? Advanced enemy AI on PC? Larger maps? Bigger more details missions? Greater number of enemy AI?

When working with multiplats the only things that really separate the games are the graphical details and effects. These are the games I know are taking it a notch above their console counterparts and that's thanks to the developers using the PC's extra power.

One comment from me. What the OP is saying about the hardcore stuff is that you wont get noobs and 10 year olds at games that matter ( left 4 dead, cod, battlefied etc). yes there are lots of casual gamers on pc but who cares about them? they dont play the games we do.SamiRDuran

I'm not soo sure. I was hardcore PC back when I was younger. Its only now that I am older, have less time and less attention span for menial tasks that i game more on consoles and handhelds.

[QUOTE="angryfodder"]

[QUOTE="steve17989"]Yes, multiplats tend to be the same games on all platforms. These changes aren't just higher resolutions, more AA or more frames, there will be a notable difference between the console and PC versions graphically, and even concerning gameplay if you look at Operation Flashpoint 2. The developers acknowledge that the extra power it there, and use it to benefit the PC version. steve17989

Have they given any actual real gameplay benefits other than graphical? Advanced enemy AI on PC? Larger maps? Bigger more details missions? Greater number of enemy AI?

When working with multiplats the only things that really separate the games are the graphical details and effects. These are the games I know are taking it a notch above their console counterparts and that's thanks to the developers using the PC's extra power.

Sorry, you've lost me a bit now - how have they/what are they doing with the PC's extra power to make the game better on PC? (that is different from usual)

[QUOTE="steve17989"]Yes, multiplats tend to be the same games on all platforms. These changes aren't just higher resolutions, more AA or more frames, there will be a notable difference between the console and PC versions graphically, and even concerning gameplay if you look at Operation Flashpoint 2. The developers acknowledge that the extra power it there, and use it to benefit the PC version. angryfodder

Have they given any actual real gameplay benefits other than graphical? Advanced enemy AI on PC? Larger maps? Bigger more details missions? Greater number of enemy AI?

I play both Pc and console, i have several games on both (my son wanted PS3 version). CoD4/Assasins Creed/CoD5. The graphics alone make for a better gaming experience. Too many times on the PS3 versions is it very hard to see enemies in the distance, i end up shooting shadows or trees so many times. This spoils the game for me. The PC versions are ultra sharp online (1080p) so i dont have this problem.

Also i generally buy the PC versions of multiplats. Not only do i get better graphics but usually shorter loading, sometimes mods, controller or KB/M option, better fps and no disc swapping. Saying that the experience i get from these multiplats isn't a world away from what the consoles would give. for me it's the RTS genre that sets PC above consoles, just love the genre.

if you feel bad about it get yourselfs gaming pc's:D you wont regret it i promissvoodoochild815

Oh, and the hardcore platform? Another reason not to play on PC. I'd rather play with some people who can relax and enjoy the game instead of being so wound up about their place on the leaderboards.

In the end, it's all about value and preference. It's undeniable that PC gaming has some advantages over console gaming, but none of them have any significant value to me. When I was a PC gamer, obviously those things were a lot more important to me, but now, I'm happier playing on consoles.

I can accept that some people prefer a gaming console as it requires less knowledge, less time etc. To a person without any real computer knowledge, I can appreciate how it is just the simpler option.DAZZER7

In before lowe0 says that he still prefers consoles :Panshul89

I'm getting predictable in my old age. :D

[QUOTE="steve17989"][QUOTE="angryfodder"]

Have they given any actual real gameplay benefits other than graphical? Advanced enemy AI on PC? Larger maps? Bigger more details missions? Greater number of enemy AI?

angryfodder

When working with multiplats the only things that really separate the games are the graphical details and effects. These are the games I know are taking it a notch above their console counterparts and that's thanks to the developers using the PC's extra power.

Sorry, you've lost me a bit now - how have they/what are they doing with the PC's extra power to make the game better on PC? (that is different from usual)

Sorry, I thought you were talking about Doom 4, Alan Wake and OFP2 in general, not exclusively about OFP2. I hope we're on the same page now. I recall watching a video where a developer says that they plan to use the PC's potential (or something along those lines), I would dig it up for you, but Gametrailers seems to be down at the moment. Either way, 32 player multiplayer seems to be a good enough indication that they're not completely putting the PC's extra power to waste.

EDIT: According to some helpful people at the OFP2 forums, these are the differences:

Ok the differences from what I know are:
Slightly reduced graphics for console versions
PC version has much better detailed cockpits
The multiplayer limit for the console is 16 online multi, PC is 32.
The Co-op multiplayer limit is 2 for consoles and PC is 4.
And besides from that your other usual things such as the ability to mod the PC version which gives it the much better advantage over console.

It is true that there isnt going to be any cockpit views on the console version.I'm sure they can do it,but i believe they are trying to make console version less hardcore.Where the pc version will be more of a simulation then shooter i guess.Yeah i saw the 360 screens too,did you notice no cocpit views? There's quite a lot of pc screens,where it seems to look more gritty.Also the cocpit views are amazing,so detailed.I guess we wont knoe untill it comes out,at least people will have a choice which version to get.Heck i probably get both,pc for proper war simulation and 360 for military shooter.ducati101

From my understanding, the console version will have cockpits, but the PC version will have them in much more detail.

To be honest god knows,last time codemasters said no cockpit view for 360 as it was going to be a different kind of game.Maybe they changed there minds,i guess we'll see soon enough.ducati101

That would be a huge kick in the nuts for console gamers if it's true.

Does the layout of this page look weird to anyone else?Master-Thief-09

Yes, it's getting hard to read the posts.

10. its the hardcore platform. PC is not for casuals. if your a pc gamer you know your among other serious gamers, and not have to worry about the hella noob that blasts your whole team away in L4D and ect.voodoochild815

[QUOTE="voodoochild815"]

10. its the hardcore platform. PC is not for casuals. if your a pc gamer you know your among other serious gamers, and not have to worry about the hella noob that blasts your whole team away in L4D and ect.nitekids2004

not all Pc gamers are like that, or have that attitude. I'm what i'd call casual and i play L4D etc. Its the whole reason i steer clear of CS:S, too hardcore for me.

Some of your points are valid and some are not. Please tell me you know you can install Linux Yellow Dog on the PS3 so that it can do everything but "make you eggs"abuabed

That right there is one of the most infuriating responses to the PC vs Console argument. Really, consolites rant on about the ease of use of a console vs PC and how that is one of its strongest attractions. Then some bright spark comes up with this rubbish. Thats right, because everyone know's how to install linux on their PS3 and do the things a PC can. Just like nobody buys sports cars anymore, they just buy the standard models and self tune the engines.

Some of your points are valid and some are not. Please tell me you know you can install Linux Yellow Dog on the PS3 so that it can do everything but "make you eggs"abuabed

and lol at all you who says pc is casual? im one of the most hardcore gamers on these forums hell i have 92 hours on my steam account for the last 2 weeks

proof http://steamcommunity.com/id/dr_rockso_the_rock_n_roll_clown

voodoochild815

That's fine. But you said PC is the hardcore platform - we're talking about many more people than just you. Take me for example, I got Oblivon, Age of Empires 2, and Age of Mythology to run on a underpowered laptop, but I spend most of my time playing Spore, the Sims and City of Heroes. I'm a casual PC gamer.

There is no way you can claim the entire population is made of up hardcore gamers. It attracts too many people.

I think PC fans need to stop with smug remarks and insults I mean really it's all over in this thread! Ignorance and Ignorant console fans comes to mind!

Despite all the getting away of insults in this thread being a console fan doesn't make someone ignorant, has the word "preference" or "choice" been forgotten?!

Half of these threads go nowhere because it's just pissed off insult posts with not really adding anything to the topic.

PC gaming is a choice and a preference. PC gaming is a niche market fact. PC gaming is more expensive than console gaming fact.

The normal consumer is not going to piece together a gaming rig and no it's not being lazy or ignorant it's just the way people buy things period.

I find it funny how PC gamers want to throw in their up-to-date hardware when it comes to graphics threads but don't want to admit it cost money to get that :lol:

Console gaming is more popular than PC gaming, look at all the gaming websites that focus more on consoles it's not "bias" it's a fact. PC gaming will always be a niche market because of it's cost and some knowledge in order to do it. And no that doesn't make someone automatically "ignorant"! ;)

Bu bu not the PC platform :roll: :cry: I mean really this has to stop. PC gaming has it's place why it's made out for what it's not on here I'll never understand :)

I think PC fans need to stop with smug remarks and insults I mean really it's all over in this thread! Ignorance and Ignorant console fans comes to mind!

Despite all the getting away of insults in this thread being a console fan doesn't make someone ignorant, has the word "preference" or "choice" been forgotten?!

Half of these threads go nowhere because it's just pissed off insult posts with not really adding anything to the topic.

PC gaming is a choice and a preference. PC gaming is a niche market fact. PC gaming is more expensive than console gaming fact.

The normal consumer is not going to piece together a gaming rig and no it's not being lazy or ignorant it's just the way people buy things period.

I find it funny how PC gamers want to throw in their up-to-date hardware when it comes to graphics threads but don't want to admit it cost money to get that :lol:

Console gaming is more popular than PC gaming, look at all the gaming websites that focus more on consoles it's not "bias" it's a fact. PC gaming will always be a niche market because of it's cost and some knowledge in order to do it. And no that doesn't make someone automatically "ignorant"! ;)

Bu bu not the PC platform :roll: :cry: I mean really this has to stop. PC gaming has it's place why it's made out for what it's not on here I'll never understand :)

jasonheyman

i find people like you rather funny. Almost every post you make on here is bashing Pc gaming yet you say its wrong for PC gamers to bash consoles lol. I mean look at ur sig for crying out loud. Its you that is missing out by not PC gaming, whether you like it or not you are missing out on some amazing games. People like me who play both win, you lose.

[QUOTE="jasonheyman"]

I think PC fans need to stop with smug remarks and insults I mean really it's all over in this thread! Ignorance and Ignorant console fans comes to mind!

Despite all the getting away of insults in this thread being a console fan doesn't make someone ignorant, has the word "preference" or "choice" been forgotten?!

Half of these threads go nowhere because it's just pissed off insult posts with not really adding anything to the topic.

PC gaming is a choice and a preference. PC gaming is a niche market fact. PC gaming is more expensive than console gaming fact.

The normal consumer is not going to piece together a gaming rig and no it's not being lazy or ignorant it's just the way people buy things period.

I find it funny how PC gamers want to throw in their up-to-date hardware when it comes to graphics threads but don't want to admit it cost money to get that :lol:

Console gaming is more popular than PC gaming, look at all the gaming websites that focus more on consoles it's not "bias" it's a fact. PC gaming will always be a niche market because of it's cost and some knowledge in order to do it. And no that doesn't make someone automatically "ignorant"! ;)

Bu bu not the PC platform :roll: :cry: I mean really this has to stop. PC gaming has it's place why it's made out for what it's not on here I'll never understand :)

Frozzik

i find people like you rather funny. Almost every post you make on here is bashing Pc gaming yet you say its wrong for PC gamers to bash consoles lol. I mean look at ur sig for crying out loud. Its you that is missing out by not PC gaming, whether you like it or not you are missing out on some amazing games. People like me who play both win, you lose.

Bashing "consoles" and bashing "people" who play consoles are two totally different things, I mean really did you read the thread or my post even? And you don't have to play all platforms and be a fan of all platforms to be on this forum this is system wars :shock:

And no I myself don't feel I am totally missing out on games because of all the amazing games on PC lol I mean really :roll:

I think PC fans need to stop with smug remarks and insults I mean really it's all over in this thread! Ignorance and Ignorant console fans comes to mind!

Despite all the getting away of insults in this thread being a console fan doesn't make someone ignorant, has the word "preference" or "choice" been forgotten?!

Half of these threads go nowhere because it's just pissed off insult posts with not really adding anything to the topic.

PC gaming is a choice and a preference. PC gaming is a niche market fact. PC gaming is more expensive than console gaming fact.

The normal consumer is not going to piece together a gaming rig and no it's not being lazy or ignorant it's just the way people buy things period.

I find it funny how PC gamers want to throw in their up-to-date hardware when it comes to graphics threads but don't want to admit it cost money to get that :lol:

Console gaming is more popular than PC gaming, look at all the gaming websites that focus more on consoles it's not "bias" it's a fact. PC gaming will always be a niche market because of it's cost and some knowledge in order to do it. And no that doesn't make someone automatically "ignorant"! ;)

Bu bu not the PC platform :roll: :cry: I mean really this has to stop. PC gaming has it's place why it's made out for what it's not on here I'll never understand :)

jasonheyman

You left out one thing; that PC gaming is better.

[QUOTE="Frozzik"][QUOTE="jasonheyman"]

I think PC fans need to stop with smug remarks and insults I mean really it's all over in this thread! Ignorance and Ignorant console fans comes to mind!

Despite all the getting away of insults in this thread being a console fan doesn't make someone ignorant, has the word "preference" or "choice" been forgotten?!

Half of these threads go nowhere because it's just pissed off insult posts with not really adding anything to the topic.

PC gaming is a choice and a preference. PC gaming is a niche market fact. PC gaming is more expensive than console gaming fact.

The normal consumer is not going to piece together a gaming rig and no it's not being lazy or ignorant it's just the way people buy things period.

I find it funny how PC gamers want to throw in their up-to-date hardware when it comes to graphics threads but don't want to admit it cost money to get that :lol:

Console gaming is more popular than PC gaming, look at all the gaming websites that focus more on consoles it's not "bias" it's a fact. PC gaming will always be a niche market because of it's cost and some knowledge in order to do it. And no that doesn't make someone automatically "ignorant"! ;)

Bu bu not the PC platform :roll: :cry: I mean really this has to stop. PC gaming has it's place why it's made out for what it's not on here I'll never understand :)

jasonheyman

i find people like you rather funny. Almost every post you make on here is bashing Pc gaming yet you say its wrong for PC gamers to bash consoles lol. I mean look at ur sig for crying out loud. Its you that is missing out by not PC gaming, whether you like it or not you are missing out on some amazing games. People like me who play both win, you lose.

Bashing "consoles" and bashing "people" who play consoles are two totally different things, I mean really did you read the thread or my post even? And you don't have to play all platforms and be a fan off all platforms to be on this forum this is system wars :shock:

And no I myself don't feel I am totally missing out on games because of all the amazing games on PC lol I mean really :roll:

Yawwn....you still here?

Console gaming is more popular than PC gaming, look at all the gaming websites that focus more on consoles it's not "bias" it's a fact. PC gaming will always be a niche market because of it's cost and some knowledge in order to do it. jasonheyman

I think PC fans need to stop with smug remarks and insults I mean really it's all over in this thread! Ignorance and Ignorant console fans comes to mind!

Despite all the getting away of insults in this thread being a console fan doesn't make someone ignorant, has the word "preference" or "choice" been forgotten?!

Half of these threads go nowhere because it's just pissed off insult posts with not really adding anything to the topic.

PC gaming is a choice and a preference. PC gaming is a niche market fact. PC gaming is more expensive than console gaming fact.

The normal consumer is not going to piece together a gaming rig and no it's not being lazy or ignorant it's just the way people buy things period.

I find it funny how PC gamers want to throw in their up-to-date hardware when it comes to graphics threads but don't want to admit it cost money to get that :lol:

Console gaming is more popular than PC gaming, look at all the gaming websites that focus more on consoles it's not "bias" it's a fact. PC gaming will always be a niche market because of it's cost and some knowledge in order to do it. And no that doesn't make someone automatically "ignorant"! ;)

Bu bu not the PC platform :roll: :cry: I mean really this has to stop. PC gaming has it's place why it's made out for what it's not on here I'll never understand :)

The main thing for me is that for all of the "power of pc" this is just not reflected in its games.

I am not sure if this is down to PC's being limited by the console market, limited to "minimum spec" requirements (making a game so that it can run on a low spec pc as well, thus increasing your market) or simply limited by what devs can currently produce - be that a skill or budget restriction...or both?

[QUOTE="jasonheyman"]

I think PC fans need to stop with smug remarks and insults I mean really it's all over in this thread! Ignorance and Ignorant console fans comes to mind!

Despite all the getting away of insults in this thread being a console fan doesn't make someone ignorant, has the word "preference" or "choice" been forgotten?!

Half of these threads go nowhere because it's just pissed off insult posts with not really adding anything to the topic.

PC gaming is a choice and a preference. PC gaming is a niche market fact. PC gaming is more expensive than console gaming fact.

The normal consumer is not going to piece together a gaming rig and no it's not being lazy or ignorant it's just the way people buy things period.

I find it funny how PC gamers want to throw in their up-to-date hardware when it comes to graphics threads but don't want to admit it cost money to get that :lol:

Console gaming is more popular than PC gaming, look at all the gaming websites that focus more on consoles it's not "bias" it's a fact. PC gaming will always be a niche market because of it's cost and some knowledge in order to do it. And no that doesn't make someone automatically "ignorant"! ;)

Bu bu not the PC platform :roll: :cry: I mean really this has to stop. PC gaming has it's place why it's made out for what it's not on here I'll never understand :)

blue_hazy_basic

Consoles are the same way now, You can play card games like Uno, poker as well. It's becoming just as big with games like that on consoles which I myself dont play but hey some like them :)

I think PC fans need to stop with smug remarks and insults I mean really it's all over in this thread! Ignorance and Ignorant console fans comes to mind!

Despite all the getting away of insults in this thread being a console fan doesn't make someone ignorant, has the word "preference" or "choice" been forgotten?!

Half of these threads go nowhere because it's just pissed off insult posts with not really adding anything to the topic.

PC gaming is a choice and a preference. PC gaming is a niche market fact. PC gaming is more expensive than console gaming fact.

The normal consumer is not going to piece together a gaming rig and no it's not being lazy or ignorant it's just the way people buy things period.

I find it funny how PC gamers want to throw in their up-to-date hardware when it comes to graphics threads but don't want to admit it cost money to get that :lol:

Console gaming is more popular than PC gaming, look at all the gaming websites that focus more on consoles it's not "bias" it's a fact. PC gaming will always be a niche market because of it's cost and some knowledge in order to do it. And no that doesn't make someone automatically "ignorant"! ;)

Bu bu not the PC platform :roll: :cry: I mean really this has to stop. PC gaming has it's place why it's made out for what it's not on here I'll never understand :)

Consoles are the same way now, You can play card games like Uno, poker as well. It's becoming just as big with games like that on consoles which I myself dont play but hey some like them :)

The main thing for me is that for all of the "power of pc" this is just not reflected in its games.

I am not sure if this is down to PC's being limited by the console market, limited to "minimum spec" requirements (making a game so that it can run on a low spec pc as well, thus increasing your market) or simply limited by what devs can currently produce - be that a skill or budget restriction...or both?

angryfodder

PC games can run at proper HD resolutions like 1920*1080, they have far higher resolution textures, much more extensive use of bump/normal mapping (as demonstrated by the screenshots of Stalker!), in game assets have much higher poly counts and can achieve a level of detail consoles can only dream of and all of this can be multiplied up to several times the scale of what consoles tend to do! Not to mention that games like Stalker and Crysis render huge amounts of high dynamic ranged lighting over huge levels!

Basically, every graphical technique you see applied in a console game can be done on a pc several times better. If you have the system capable, you can achieve much higher frame rates for a much smoother experience.

If you cannot see the difference, then I don't know what to say!