people on 360 still may not want ps3 unfortunatly.

Nice way to assume that the 360 is just a "fad", but it's a lot more than that...Sorry. I mean, you're topic is full of rediculous claims, and silly logic. Are you seriously trying to say that all 360 owners are trendy morons that watch MTV all day? :lol: I could just as easily say that all PS3 owners are like lonely house wives that sit around watching Lifetime all day, because their PS3's aren't doing it for them anymore. But, how much sense would that make? NONE! Anyways, just because your "friend" :lol: may be a little dense, doesn't mean all 360 owners are. Sorry, but you've failed.

[QUOTE="ps3wizard45"]

[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

Atari 5200, NeoGeo, the Saturn and 3DO failed.

Blu-ray player? Please, no one cares about that. We want PlayStation for GAMES. Sony has just lost all the games that made the PS brand great - Final Fantasy, Grand Theft Auto, Devil May Cry, Tekken, Virtua Fighter... it did keep Metal Gear Solid but that's it.

AHUGECAT

besides sony kept, GoW, Jak, R&C, and spawned so many awesome new series it's amazing...

Yeah but it gives less reasons to get a PS3. I remember Vice City being the sole reason I wanted a PS2. GTAIV could've been that for the PS3.

God of War is great, but that isn't enough. And what new series? Lol, Sony hasn't launched really any new series. Infamous? Please. What else? Heavenly Sword? Those are amazing?

[QUOTE="Delsage"]

:lol: Just what has Microsoft brought to the table of gaming? Fable has been done before in other WRPG's, Halo is an overhyped FPS, I had more fun with Counter Strike in the day than Halo 2. So what than? The RRoD I guess is something to brag about, as the hardware for the 360 is obviously so reliable.

At least Sony has first party developers that actually make Good games and don't rely on third party developers to make games for them in order to keep their system afloat.

what has Microsoft brought to the table of gaming you ask? they brought competition toward sony and nintendo. Those microsoft's exclusives might not be appealing to you but they are popular among the masses. You think that only 3rd party developers are keeping the 360 a float but you know that first party exclusives such as halo, fable, gears of war do move ALOT of systems right?

[QUOTE="mgkennedy5"][QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

The PS3 does not have a killer app, that's why. Maybe if it could've kept GTAIV, FFXIII and Tekken 6 as exclusives and stop delaying all its games that would change.

It's not an opinion - it's a fact. The PS3 has no killer-apps and although MGS4 was close it didn't do enough. That's why many people don't care about the PS3.

[QUOTE="Delsage"]

[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

Atari 5200, NeoGeo, the Saturn and 3DO failed.

Blu-ray player? Please, no one cares about that. We want PlayStation for GAMES. Sony has just lost all the games that made the PS brand great - Final Fantasy, Grand Theft Auto, Devil May Cry, Tekken, Virtua Fighter... it did keep Metal Gear Solid but that's it.

AHUGECAT

Well the PS3 isn't failing, in fact I think it's been doing quite well up till now at the price it was at. It has higher sale numbers in both Europe and Japan, and is now the same price as the 360 which I think will boost the sales in not only both of the countries aforementioned, but America as well.

Final Fantasy started on the Nintendo, whereas Grand Theft Auto has been on Windows, Gameboy and the Dreamcast when it first started, and Virtual Fighter was a Sega game. So I don't know what your getting at. The only games that started on the Playstation was Tekken and Devil May Cry, but they were never owned by Sony so it's not like they lost an exclusive. So what was your point again?

Yes, it is selling better than they did due to the PlayStation brand, but it's not a really good comparison don't ya think? The fact is the PS3 was and is too expensive, I'd even consider the 360 too expensive.

Final Fantasy X and XII were exclusive to the PS2, and GTAIII series was exclusive for the PS2 for a long time which helped push tons of PS2 units, and Virtua Fighter was just better on the 360. My point is Sony lost too many exclusives to care about them anymore. Their franchises aren't Nintendo's (Nintendo can survive with poor third party support), and they just aren't worth buying a $300 system for, especially when most can be beaten in under 7 hours (ie Heavenly Sword, MGS4, Uncharted, etc. etc.).

If you can beat MGS4 in 7 hours than you must be a game guru. Besides, Halo 3 and Gears 2 both can be beaten in that time frame, so you kinda lose argument there.

You still don't have an argument, the games you mentioned were never Playstation exclusives. In fact GTAIII was on the Xbox, so how do you even bring that up? The Playstation has had many great exclusives from it's first party developers such as Ratchet and Clank, Jak and Daxter, Shadow of the Colossus, GT, ICO, GoW, SOCOM and many Metal Gear Solid games.

You have mentioned the games that went to the 360, but what about the ones that went to the PS3? Such as Bioshock, Ninja Gaiden, Tales of Vesparia, Lost Planet, Oblivion. There is probably more, but need I go on? Compared to what the PS3 lost, I think the 360 took just as much of a blow.

But the difference between the PS3 and 360, is the PS3 actually has more than third party developers to back them up.

[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

[QUOTE="ps3wizard45"]it kept all those games, it's not like because they give it to the 360 they go away from ps3...

besides sony kept, GoW, Jak, R&C, and spawned so many awesome new series it's amazing...

ps3wizard45

Yeah but it gives less reasons to get a PS3. I remember Vice City being the sole reason I wanted a PS2. GTAIV could've been that for the PS3.

God of War is great, but that isn't enough. And what new series? Lol, Sony hasn't launched really any new series. Infamous? Please. What else? Heavenly Sword? Those are amazing?

[QUOTE="MizFitAwesome"]

[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

Seriously, I played Uncharted and was shocked at how fast I was beating it (and yes, I was looking for some treasures). I ended up beating it super quick.... And then games like Killzone 2, Resistance 2, LittleBigPlanet are practically dead online. PS3 has no longetivity.

AHUGECAT

Of course it doesn't. Do you ever notice how fast their blind faithful flood these forums AFTER the release of these supposed 'good' games? It's like they are totally bored with it days afterward.

TC mentioned his cool gamer coworker took 3-4 days to beat Uncharted. He must have played it an hour a day....

Yup, heck, there are over 100,000 people playing Halo 3 right now online. Gears of War 2 probably has similar numbers. Xbox 360 owners have more games to play so they aren't on forums as much.

No kidding.... I played it (PSN ID: AHUGECAT) and beat it almost immediately, even looking for treasures. I feel sorry for anyone who paid $60 for this game. Maybe if it was 12-15 hours with some replay value it'd be OK.... $40 at the most.

Oh, yes sir! All 2 of them that you just mentioned...that came out 2 years ago...

Yeah...

[QUOTE="ps3wizard45"]

[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

Yeah but it gives less reasons to get a PS3. I remember Vice City being the sole reason I wanted a PS2. GTAIV could've been that for the PS3.

God of War is great, but that isn't enough. And what new series? Lol, Sony hasn't launched really any new series. Infamous? Please. What else? Heavenly Sword? Those are amazing?

AHUGECAT

[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

[QUOTE="Delsage"]

Well the PS3 isn't failing, in fact I think it's been doing quite well up till now at the price it was at. It has higher sale numbers in both Europe and Japan, and is now the same price as the 360 which I think will boost the sales in not only both of the countries aforementioned, but America as well.

Final Fantasy started on the Nintendo, whereas Grand Theft Auto has been on Windows, Gameboy and the Dreamcast when it first started, and Virtual Fighter was a Sega game. So I don't know what your getting at. The only games that started on the Playstation was Tekken and Devil May Cry, but they were never owned by Sony so it's not like they lost an exclusive. So what was your point again?

Delsage

Yes, it is selling better than they did due to the PlayStation brand, but it's not a really good comparison don't ya think? The fact is the PS3 was and is too expensive, I'd even consider the 360 too expensive.

Final Fantasy X and XII were exclusive to the PS2, and GTAIII series was exclusive for the PS2 for a long time which helped push tons of PS2 units, and Virtua Fighter was just better on the 360. My point is Sony lost too many exclusives to care about them anymore. Their franchises aren't Nintendo's (Nintendo can survive with poor third party support), and they just aren't worth buying a $300 system for, especially when most can be beaten in under 7 hours (ie Heavenly Sword, MGS4, Uncharted, etc. etc.).

If you can beat MGS4 in 7 hours than you must be a game guru. Besides, Halo 3 and Gears 2 both can be beaten in that time frame, so you kinda lose argument there.

You still don't have an argument, the games you mentioned were never Playstation exclusives. In fact GTAIII was on the Xbox, so how do you even bring that up? The Playstation has had many great exclusives from it's first party developers such as Ratchet and Clank, Jak and Daxter, Shadow of the Colossus, GT, ICO, GoW, SOCOM and many Metal Gear Solid games.

You have mentioned the games that went to the 360, but what about the ones that went to the PS3? Such as Bioshock, Ninja Gaiden, Tales of Vesparia, Lost Planet, Oblivion. There is probably more, but need I go on? Compared to what the PS3 lost, I think the 360 took just as much of a blow.

But the difference between the PS3 and 360, is the PS3 actually has more than third party developers to back them up.

MGS4 is all movies, skip the movies and you get 2 hours of gameplay, seriously. Game wouldn't be so bad if you could play the cutscenes instead of watch them, and if the graphics weren't so ugly. Gears of War and Halo are shooters and have fine lenghts - multiplayer is were they are at.

GTAIII was on the Xbox when it was irrelevent, like 2 years later after the PS2. A lot of people forget that. And yeah the PS2 had tons of good games but the PS3 does not, and it's reflected by sales and scores.

Bioshock came out a year after the Xbox 360 version, same with Nina Gaiden, TOV, Lost Planet, Oblivion.... if you're going to steal exclusives (and none of these are as important as Final Fantasy and GTAIV), at least steal it for a day one release. Seriously, I beat all those games you mentioned by the time they came out on the PS3.

Xbox 360 has better first party - Gears of War and Halo sell more systems than any of Sony's franchises, and they score higher too.

[QUOTE="ps3wizard45"]

[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

Yeah but it gives less reasons to get a PS3. I remember Vice City being the sole reason I wanted a PS2. GTAIV could've been that for the PS3.

God of War is great, but that isn't enough. And what new series? Lol, Sony hasn't launched really any new series. Infamous? Please. What else? Heavenly Sword? Those are amazing?

AHUGECAT

[QUOTE="Delsage"]

:lol: Just what has Microsoft brought to the table of gaming? Fable has been done before in other WRPG's, Halo is an overhyped FPS, I had more fun with Counter Strike in the day than Halo 2. So what than? The RRoD I guess is something to brag about, as the hardware for the 360 is obviously so reliable.

At least Sony has first party developers that actually make Good games and don't rely on third party developers to make games for them in order to keep their system afloat.

OPuniverse

what has Microsoft brought to the table of gaming you ask? they brought competition toward sony and nintendo. Those microsoft's exclusives might not be appealing to you but they are popular among the masses. You think that only 3rd party developers are keeping the 360 a float but you know that first party exclusives such as halo, fable, gears of war do move ALOT of systems right?

[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

[QUOTE="ps3wizard45"]GT5 and God of War are those games that make you want to buy the ps3 if your a casual gamer, LBP, Warhawk, Infamous, Uncharted, Heavenly Sword are all great new series/games, I dunno wtf ur talking about saying they aren't :?

ps3wizard45

LBP has bad physics - like when it comes to jumping, and the fact is is just the gameplay is boring. There's no real reason to play. They should've made it more like a 2D Mario rather than the mess they have now. Gameplay was clearly not a goal in this game. Warhawk, only played the demo but better than Halo? LOL. And yes, Uncharted is way too short, especially at $60.

[QUOTE="MizFitAwesome"]

[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

Yes, it is selling better than they did due to the PlayStation brand, but it's not a really good comparison don't ya think? The fact is the PS3 was and is too expensive, I'd even consider the 360 too expensive.

Final Fantasy X and XII were exclusive to the PS2, and GTAIII series was exclusive for the PS2 for a long time which helped push tons of PS2 units, and Virtua Fighter was just better on the 360. My point is Sony lost too many exclusives to care about them anymore. Their franchises aren't Nintendo's (Nintendo can survive with poor third party support), and they just aren't worth buying a $300 system for, especially when most can be beaten in under 7 hours (ie Heavenly Sword, MGS4, Uncharted, etc. etc.).

AHUGECAT

Good point. Isn't it sad when an XBLA game is longer then a portion of Sony's exclusive library?

Seriously, I played Uncharted and was shocked at how fast I was beating it (and yes, I was looking for some treasures). I ended up beating it super quick.... And then games like Killzone 2, Resistance 2, LittleBigPlanet are practically dead online. PS3 has no longetivity.

Yeah...my roommates constantly bogarting my PS3 playing Killzone 2 all hours of the day in full games says otherwise.

[QUOTE="OPuniverse"]

[QUOTE="Delsage"]

:lol: Just what has Microsoft brought to the table of gaming? Fable has been done before in other WRPG's, Halo is an overhyped FPS, I had more fun with Counter Strike in the day than Halo 2. So what than? The RRoD I guess is something to brag about, as the hardware for the 360 is obviously so reliable.

At least Sony has first party developers that actually make Good games and don't rely on third party developers to make games for them in order to keep their system afloat.

MortalDecay

what has Microsoft brought to the table of gaming you ask? they brought competition toward sony and nintendo. Those microsoft's exclusives might not be appealing to you but they are popular among the masses. You think that only 3rd party developers are keeping the 360 a float but you know that first party exclusives such as halo, fable, gears of war do move ALOT of systems right?

[QUOTE="Delsage"]

[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

Yes, it is selling better than they did due to the PlayStation brand, but it's not a really good comparison don't ya think? The fact is the PS3 was and is too expensive, I'd even consider the 360 too expensive.

Final Fantasy X and XII were exclusive to the PS2, and GTAIII series was exclusive for the PS2 for a long time which helped push tons of PS2 units, and Virtua Fighter was just better on the 360. My point is Sony lost too many exclusives to care about them anymore. Their franchises aren't Nintendo's (Nintendo can survive with poor third party support), and they just aren't worth buying a $300 system for, especially when most can be beaten in under 7 hours (ie Heavenly Sword, MGS4, Uncharted, etc. etc.).

AHUGECAT

If you can beat MGS4 in 7 hours than you must be a game guru. Besides, Halo 3 and Gears 2 both can be beaten in that time frame, so you kinda lose argument there.

You still don't have an argument, the games you mentioned were never Playstation exclusives. In fact GTAIII was on the Xbox, so how do you even bring that up? The Playstation has had many great exclusives from it's first party developers such as Ratchet and Clank, Jak and Daxter, Shadow of the Colossus, GT, ICO, GoW, SOCOM and many Metal Gear Solid games.

You have mentioned the games that went to the 360, but what about the ones that went to the PS3? Such as Bioshock, Ninja Gaiden, Tales of Vesparia, Lost Planet, Oblivion. There is probably more, but need I go on? Compared to what the PS3 lost, I think the 360 took just as much of a blow.

But the difference between the PS3 and 360, is the PS3 actually has more than third party developers to back them up.

MGS4 is all movies, skip the movies and you get 2 hours of gameplay, seriously. Game wouldn't be so bad if you could play the cutscenes instead of watch them, and if the graphics weren't so ugly. Gears of War and Halo are shooters and have fine lenghts - multiplayer is were they are at.

GTAIII was on the Xbox when it was irrelevent, like 2 years later after the PS2. A lot of people forget that. And yeah the PS2 had tons of good games but the PS3 does not, and it's reflected by sales and scores.

Bioshock came out a year after the Xbox 360 version, same with Nina Gaiden, TOV, Lost Planet, Oblivion.... if you're going to steal exclusives (and none of these are as important as Final Fantasy and GTAIV), at least steal it for a day one release. Seriously, I beat all those games you mentioned by the time they came out on the PS3.

Xbox 360 has better first party - Gears of War and Halo sell more systems than any of Sony's franchises, and they score higher too.

[QUOTE="Delsage"]

[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

Yes, it is selling better than they did due to the PlayStation brand, but it's not a really good comparison don't ya think? The fact is the PS3 was and is too expensive, I'd even consider the 360 too expensive.

Final Fantasy X and XII were exclusive to the PS2, and GTAIII series was exclusive for the PS2 for a long time which helped push tons of PS2 units, and Virtua Fighter was just better on the 360. My point is Sony lost too many exclusives to care about them anymore. Their franchises aren't Nintendo's (Nintendo can survive with poor third party support), and they just aren't worth buying a $300 system for, especially when most can be beaten in under 7 hours (ie Heavenly Sword, MGS4, Uncharted, etc. etc.).

AHUGECAT

If you can beat MGS4 in 7 hours than you must be a game guru. Besides, Halo 3 and Gears 2 both can be beaten in that time frame, so you kinda lose argument there.

You still don't have an argument, the games you mentioned were never Playstation exclusives. In fact GTAIII was on the Xbox, so how do you even bring that up? The Playstation has had many great exclusives from it's first party developers such as Ratchet and Clank, Jak and Daxter, Shadow of the Colossus, GT, ICO, GoW, SOCOM and many Metal Gear Solid games.

You have mentioned the games that went to the 360, but what about the ones that went to the PS3? Such as Bioshock, Ninja Gaiden, Tales of Vesparia, Lost Planet, Oblivion. There is probably more, but need I go on? Compared to what the PS3 lost, I think the 360 took just as much of a blow.

But the difference between the PS3 and 360, is the PS3 actually has more than third party developers to back them up.

MGS4 is all movies, skip the movies and you get 2 hours of gameplay, seriously. Game wouldn't be so bad if you could play the cutscenes instead of watch them, and if the graphics weren't so ugly. Gears of War and Halo are shooters and have fine lenghts - multiplayer is were they are at.

GTAIII was on the Xbox when it was irrelevent, like 2 years later after the PS2. A lot of people forget that. And yeah the PS2 had tons of good games but the PS3 does not, and it's reflected by sales and scores.

Bioshock came out a year after the Xbox 360 version, same with Nina Gaiden, TOV, Lost Planet, Oblivion.... if you're going to steal exclusives (and none of these are as important as Final Fantasy and GTAIV), at least steal it for a day one release. Seriously, I beat all those games you mentioned by the time they came out on the PS3.

Xbox 360 has better first party - Gears of War and Halo sell more systems than any of Sony's franchises, and they score higher too.

We all know its art style and bold visuallys are eye candy in 1080i :roll:

We all know MGS4 has quality multiplayer :roll:

We all know ps3 has a ton of good games :roll:

We all know 360 hasn't had a good game release since GeoW2 :roll:

We all know the time the exclusive was lost is pointless, it's still one reason not to buy a 360 :roll:

Wrong :roll:

[QUOTE="Delsage"]

If you can beat MGS4 in 7 hours than you must be a game guru. Besides, Halo 3 and Gears 2 both can be beaten in that time frame, so you kinda lose argument there.

You still don't have an argument, the games you mentioned were never Playstation exclusives. In fact GTAIII was on the Xbox, so how do you even bring that up? The Playstation has had many great exclusives from it's first party developers such as Ratchet and Clank, Jak and Daxter, Shadow of the Colossus, GT, ICO, GoW, SOCOM and many Metal Gear Solid games.

You have mentioned the games that went to the 360, but what about the ones that went to the PS3? Such as Bioshock, Ninja Gaiden, Tales of Vesparia, Lost Planet, Oblivion. There is probably more, but need I go on? Compared to what the PS3 lost, I think the 360 took just as much of a blow.

But the difference between the PS3 and 360, is the PS3 actually has more than third party developers to back them up.

MGS4 is all movies, skip the movies and you get 2 hours of gameplay, seriously. Game wouldn't be so bad if you could play the cutscenes instead of watch them, and if the graphics weren't so ugly. Gears of War and Halo are shooters and have fine lenghts - multiplayer is were they are at.

GTAIII was on the Xbox when it was irrelevent, like 2 years later after the PS2. A lot of people forget that. And yeah the PS2 had tons of good games but the PS3 does not, and it's reflected by sales and scores.

Bioshock came out a year after the Xbox 360 version, same with Nina Gaiden, TOV, Lost Planet, Oblivion.... if you're going to steal exclusives (and none of these are as important as Final Fantasy and GTAIV), at least steal it for a day one release. Seriously, I beat all those games you mentioned by the time they came out on the PS3.

Xbox 360 has better first party - Gears of War and Halo sell more systems than any of Sony's franchises, and they score higher too.

[QUOTE="MizFitAwesome"]

[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

Seriously, I played Uncharted and was shocked at how fast I was beating it (and yes, I was looking for some treasures). I ended up beating it super quick.... And then games like Killzone 2, Resistance 2, LittleBigPlanet are practically dead online. PS3 has no longetivity.

AHUGECAT

Of course it doesn't. Do you ever notice how fast their blind faithful flood these forums AFTER the release of these supposed 'good' games? It's like they are totally bored with it days afterward.

TC mentioned his cool gamer coworker took 3-4 days to beat Uncharted. He must have played it an hour a day....

Yup, heck, there are over 100,000 people playing Halo 3 right now online. Gears of War 2 probably has similar numbers. Xbox 360 owners have more games to play so they aren't on forums as much.

No kidding.... I played it (PSN ID: AHUGECAT) and beat it almost immediately, even looking for treasures. I feel sorry for anyone who paid $60 for this game. Maybe if it was 12-15 hours with some replay value it'd be OK.... $40 at the most.

WOW what a sight. Fanboys bashing something together. Two people with no merit what so ever.

[QUOTE="ps3wizard45"]

[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

Gran Turismo 5 isn't out and neither is God of War. God of War is making me want a PS3 but that isn't enough. LittleBigPlanet isn't that great (poor physics, just isn't fun to play, level building is too tedious to make a real good level, community is dying), Warhawk (huh? Why would anyone care about this?), Infamous, haven't played this so I won't comment on it, Uncharted is too short.... I'd prefer Gears of War, Kameo, Lost Odyssey, Mass Effect, and a lot more to those.

AHUGECAT

LBP has bad physics - like when it comes to jumping, and the fact is is just the gameplay is boring. There's no real reason to play. They should've made it more like a 2D Mario rather than the mess they have now. Gameplay was clearly not a goal in this game. Warhawk, only played the demo but better than Halo? LOL. And yes, Uncharted is way too short, especially at $60. wut?

Yeah, I liked it more...

and maybe Uncharted was so short because all you played was the trial version demo at the walmart tech section :roll:

[QUOTE="Delsage"][QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

MGS4 is all movies, skip the movies and you get 2 hours of gameplay, seriously. Game wouldn't be so bad if you could play the cutscenes instead of watch them, and if the graphics weren't so ugly. Gears of War and Halo are shooters and have fine lenghts - multiplayer is were they are at.

GTAIII was on the Xbox when it was irrelevent, like 2 years later after the PS2. A lot of people forget that. And yeah the PS2 had tons of good games but the PS3 does not, and it's reflected by sales and scores.

Bioshock came out a year after the Xbox 360 version, same with Nina Gaiden, TOV, Lost Planet, Oblivion.... if you're going to steal exclusives (and none of these are as important as Final Fantasy and GTAIV), at least steal it for a day one release. Seriously, I beat all those games you mentioned by the time they came out on the PS3.

Xbox 360 has better first party - Gears of War and Halo sell more systems than any of Sony's franchises, and they score higher too.

MortalDecay

[QUOTE="OPuniverse"]

[QUOTE="Delsage"]

:lol: Just what has Microsoft brought to the table of gaming? Fable has been done before in other WRPG's, Halo is an overhyped FPS, I had more fun with Counter Strike in the day than Halo 2. So what than? The RRoD I guess is something to brag about, as the hardware for the 360 is obviously so reliable.

At least Sony has first party developers that actually make Good games and don't rely on third party developers to make games for them in order to keep their system afloat.

MortalDecay

what has Microsoft brought to the table of gaming you ask? they brought competition toward sony and nintendo. Those microsoft's exclusives might not be appealing to you but they are popular among the masses. You think that only 3rd party developers are keeping the 360 a float but you know that first party exclusives such as halo, fable, gears of war do move ALOT of systems right?

Its actually dont waste your time with any fanboys. AHUGECAT and miz are two prime example of how low,sad and anoying a fanboy can be.

[QUOTE="Delsage"][QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

MGS4 is all movies, skip the movies and you get 2 hours of gameplay, seriously. Game wouldn't be so bad if you could play the cutscenes instead of watch them, and if the graphics weren't so ugly. Gears of War and Halo are shooters and have fine lenghts - multiplayer is were they are at.

GTAIII was on the Xbox when it was irrelevent, like 2 years later after the PS2. A lot of people forget that. And yeah the PS2 had tons of good games but the PS3 does not, and it's reflected by sales and scores.

Bioshock came out a year after the Xbox 360 version, same with Nina Gaiden, TOV, Lost Planet, Oblivion.... if you're going to steal exclusives (and none of these are as important as Final Fantasy and GTAIV), at least steal it for a day one release. Seriously, I beat all those games you mentioned by the time they came out on the PS3.

Xbox 360 has better first party - Gears of War and Halo sell more systems than any of Sony's franchises, and they score higher too.

MortalDecay

The PS3 does not have a killer app, that's why. Maybe if it could've kept GTAIV, FFXIII and Tekken 6 as exclusives and stop delaying all its games that would change.

AHUGECAT

Deploy-ables like cover, lifts, radar jammers, aoe heal bombs, flash bombs, and shield bombs. Not to mention forge. The matchmaking system and requirements to have all map packs for most of the gametypes is pretty lame though.

[QUOTE="MortalDecay"][QUOTE="Delsage"] MGS4 = 10, I think you lost. Oh and I'm really getting bored of arguing with you as your not saying anything useful, in fact you haven't from the beginning, and only the most extreme lemmings agree with you. For obvious reasons of course. Thanks for proving the point of the TC by the way. Delsage

The bottomline is, it's the same as it always is in SW. If anyone favors the 360 and its games, they are automatically fanboys or non-gamers. The true gamers are the ones that actually play the games and can form their own opionons as opposed to the PS3 gamers that have to rely on review scores and their own little support group.

MGS4was no where a 10. Heck GTAIV had way better online MP. Uncharted - you get to play the final boss in a tech demo? It was dodge the shotgun blast, then run up and slap the guy until he runs away, rinse and repeat. The game was a total joke.

[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

[QUOTE="ps3wizard45"]GT5 and God of War are those games that make you want to buy the ps3 if your a casual gamer, LBP, Warhawk, Infamous, Uncharted, Heavenly Sword are all great new series/games, I dunno wtf ur talking about saying they aren't :?

ps3wizard45

how come it seems im the only person whosaw this post?:?

[QUOTE="ps3wizard45"]

[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

Gran Turismo 5 isn't out and neither is God of War. God of War is making me want a PS3 but that isn't enough. LittleBigPlanet isn't that great (poor physics, just isn't fun to play, level building is too tedious to make a real good level, community is dying), Warhawk (huh? Why would anyone care about this?), Infamous, haven't played this so I won't comment on it, Uncharted is too short.... I'd prefer Gears of War, Kameo, Lost Odyssey, Mass Effect, and a lot more to those.

johnnyboy5000

how come it seems im the only person whosaw this post?:?

Because he can still have a PSN ID on a PSP...

[QUOTE="johnnyboy5000"]

[QUOTE="ps3wizard45"]You said you had a PSN idea called AHUGECAT, you just owned!

MizFitAwesome

how come it seems im the only person whosaw this post?:?

Because he can still have a PSN ID on a PSP...

.... but, you need a ps3 to play uncharted:|

And people without a console may now complitely rule out getting the 360. :roll:
Works both ways...

Gran Turismo 5 isn't out and neither is God of War. God of War is making me want a PS3 but that isn't enough.AHUGECAT

Lol wut?

You don't want a ps3 but you're interested enough in playing all of those exclusives in your sig?

Bad FAKEboy is bad!:lol:

[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]Gran Turismo 5 isn't out and neither is God of War. God of War is making me want a PS3 but that isn't enough.DanteSuikoden

Lol wut?

You don't want a ps3 but you're interested enough in playing all of those exclusives in your sig?

Bad FAKEboy is bad!:lol:

lol shhhhh dont blow his cover ;)

lol shhhhh dont blow his cover ;)

johnnyboy5000

Ohh man:lol:

I wanna see him or Miz spin this one

[QUOTE="johnnyboy5000"]lol shhhhh dont blow his cover ;)

DanteSuikoden

Ohh man:lol:

I wanna see him or Miz spin this one

Gee maybe after playing all of those games and scoring them, he got rid of his PS3. Why don't you just verify his PSN ID?

[QUOTE="johnnyboy5000"]lol shhhhh dont blow his cover ;)

DanteSuikoden

Ohh man:lol:

I wanna see him or Miz spin this one

lol thank god i didnt fall asleep early tonight :P

Well, people need to realize that PS3 and its exclusives dont appeal to everyone. I think thats the problem here on system wars, cows think people are "dumb" or "stupid" for not seeing the value in the console, and choosing a 360 over it. But the real world has its own idea of what "value" means to them. Im a gamer, so i enjoy games on both consoles, but not everyone likes KZ2, LBP, InFamous, and MGS4. "Everyday gamers" want madden, fifa, halo, gta, gears, spiderman, tekken, DMC, RE5 etc. So they chose the cheapest console they can play those on. The Wii hurt the PS3 more than 360 because it stole all the casuals Sony had last gen. All IMO of course.

navyguy21

[QUOTE="DanteSuikoden"]

[QUOTE="johnnyboy5000"]lol shhhhh dont blow his cover ;)

MizFitAwesome

Ohh man:lol:

I wanna see him or Miz spin this one

Gee maybe after playing all of those games and scoring them, he got rid of his PS3. Why don't you just verify his PSN ID?

wait, im starting to think you and him :o.... are the same person?! omgomgomg

[QUOTE="DanteSuikoden"]

[QUOTE="johnnyboy5000"]lol shhhhh dont blow his cover ;)

MizFitAwesome

Ohh man:lol:

I wanna see him or Miz spin this one

Gee maybe after playing all of those games and scoring them, he got rid of his PS3. Why don't you just verify his PSN ID?

well you know PSN can have multiple accounts right? a friend of mine (HUGE LEMMING) has an account on another friends PS3 and uses it in forums as an excuse to try and somehow validate his bashing against PS3, having it listed on his sig..

In reality he doesnt own a PS3 but somehow people believe he does, infactyou never see this guy online onhis 'PSN' account... why because he is at home playing on 360(the only console he owns)..

am not saying this other guy is doing the same thing, just showing how easy isfor people to say they own a PS3.. i got 3 PSN accounts,which i use for DLC, demos etc since in Malta we have no PS store facility, so i use my US / UK accounts..

Gee maybe after playing all of those games and scoring them, he got rid of his PS3. Why don't you just verify his PSN ID?

MizFitAwesome

He never got rid of it:lol:

I don't have to, that's the whole beauty of his horrible fakeboying!

Come on, with your avatar I expect you to do better than that!

[QUOTE="MizFitAwesome"]Gee maybe after playing all of those games and scoring them, he got rid of his PS3. Why don't you just verify his PSN ID?

DanteSuikoden

He never got rid of it:lol:

I don't have to, that's the whole beauty of his horrible fakeboying!

Come on, with your avatar I expect you to do better than that!

So how would you know if he did or did not get rid of it?

The bottomline is, it's the same as it always is in SW. If anyone favors the 360 and its games, they are automatically fanboys or non-gamers. The true gamers are the ones that actually play the games and can form their own opionons as opposedto the PS3 gamers that have to rely on review scores and their own little support group.

MGS4was no where a 10. Heck GTAIV had way better online MP. Uncharted - you get to play the final boss in a tech demo? It was dodge the shotgun blast, then run up and slap the guy until he runs away, rinse and repeat. The game was a total joke.

MizFitAwesome

Wow thats just so much BS to take in. 360 fanboys do the same exact crap.

So how would you know if he did or did not get rid of it?MizFitAwesome

Anybody that states that Halo Wars makes PC RTS obsolete is here for some ***** and giggles

While we're on the subject, for a person that has many negative opinions on the ps3........one would think that you own a PS3 Miz:)

[QUOTE="MizFitAwesome"]

The bottomline is, it's the same as it always is in SW. If anyone favors the 360 and its games, they are automatically fanboys or non-gamers. The true gamers are the ones that actually play the games and can form their own opionons as opposedto the PS3 gamers that have to rely on review scores and their own little support group.

MGS4was no where a 10. Heck GTAIV had way better online MP. Uncharted - you get to play the final boss in a tech demo? It was dodge the shotgun blast, then run up and slap the guy until he runs away, rinse and repeat. The game was a total joke.

finalfantasy94

Wow thats just so much BS to take in. 360 fanboys do the same exact crap.

What mold their opinions off of someone elses? It doesn't seem like that to me...

[QUOTE="MizFitAwesome"]So how would you know if he did or did not get rid of it?DanteSuikoden

Anybody that states that Halo Wars makes PC RTS obsolete is here for some ***** and giggles

While we're on the subject, for a person that has many negative opinions on the ps3........one would think that you own a PS3 Miz:)

I borrowed just to play MGS4 , Uncharted, Killzone 2, Warhawk, LBP and Resistance 2. I actually like Resistence 2. The rest were a waste of time. I hated Uncharted so much, I wish I could get the 6 hours of time back...

think of it like the health care debate in the US, you got obama trying to change health care for the good, but then you get people that watch fox news and then think they know everything about the bill, then they go out with nazi symbols and obama hitler posters. so fanboys are like people who watch fox news, they dont know anything, get told lies/bias and then dont beleive anything else, then go on a rampage, but the iraq war is ok.adman66

Yes, how dare you watch the news network that shows there are 2 sides to an argument?

What you just stated is sonys biggest problem.

Us gamers know all the good ps3 games. Becuase we look these things up.

BUT sony still has not gotten a killer app like gears of war, Halo or COD4. Killzone 2 was close but it took itself to seriously, and R2 was nearly their but the characters were boring and the graohics below standards.

Sony has got many great games, but what they nee is just this ONE killer app which will get all gamers talking. Not just core gamers...

Rockstar is making agent, whch could be the ext GTA. Now that would be a killer app...

Same could be said about Halo 3 getting a 9.5. At least MGS4 brought something new to the table from it's previous titles, what did Halo 3 bring that was new from the first 2? Tearing off a turret and carrying it around slowly. Whoohoo!

Delsage

Forge and Theatre mode. You didn't even mention these 2 new features.

Shows how much you know.

What you just stated is sonys biggest problem.

Us gamers know all the good ps3 games. Becuase we look these things up.

BUT sony still has not gotten a killer app like gears of war, Halo or COD4. Killzone 2 was close but it took itself to seriously, and R2 was nearly their but the characters were boring and the graohics below standards.

Sony has got many great games, but what they nee is just this ONE killer app which will get all gamers talking. Not just core gamers...

Rockstar is making agent, whch could be the ext GTA. Now that would be a killer app...

NinjaMunkey01