PEOPLE PLEASE! Can you get your numbers CORRECT. PS3 has NOT SOLD 2mil, LINK

NO the PS3 has not sold 2 mil like so many fanboys are trying to say.

In fact i have been watching things very closely and the sell to ratio is better for the 360. Meaning 360 is selling 11/2 time more units then PS3 example. PS3 has been stuck at just over 1.5mil for a bit now. So every week it's selling between 30-50 thousand whereas the 360 is selling 60-80 thousand units in the same week.

http://nexgenwars.com/

NO the PS3 has not sold 2 mil like so many fanboys are trying to say.

In fact i have been watching things very closely and the sell to ratio is better for the 360. Meaning 360 is selling 11/2 time more units then PS3 example. PS3 has been stuck at just over 1.5mil for a bit now. So every week it's selling between 30-50 thousand whereas the 360 is selling 60-80 thousand units in the same week.

http://nexgenwars.com/

GamerGuy07360

Be quiet.  No one cares about your filthy opinions or statement.s

Gamespot! Sony Fanboys are desperately rounding up their figures again!

thats wierd i thought NPD said 2mil +-Y2J-

Look, I find it hard to believe that the PS3 isn't selling. Jack Trenton says there's a shortage, which I believe because he put his money where his mouth is. Obviously someone as high up as Jack Trenton would know better than any of us. What the hell is wrong with you people?

Don't you remember how well the spring launch went? The PSP completely made everyone forget about the DS and who the hell would want a Wii? The graphics suck..The existing game "library" of the 360 and it's so called "best online service" is a joke. There is no way in hell that Sony could fall flat on it's face. After all the PS2 sold over 100 million units. EVERYBODY that bought a PS2 is going to get a PS3. It's not like 600 dollars is a lot of money. Unless you are poor.:lol:

Look, I find it hard to believe that the PS3 isn't selling. Jack Trenton says there's a shortage, which I believe because he put his money where his mouth is. Obviously someone as high up as Jack Trenton would know better than any of us. What the hell is wrong with you people? Don't you remember how well the spring launch went? The PSP completely made everyone forget about the DS and who the hell would want a Wii? The graphics suck..The existing game "library" of the 360 and it's so called "best online service" is a joke. There is no way in hell that Sony could fall flat on it's face. After all the PS2 sold over 100 million units. EVERYBODY that bought a PS2 is going to get a PS3. It's not like 600 dollars is a lot of money. Unless you are poor.:lol:

heretrix

NO the PS3 has not sold 2 mil like so many fanboys are trying to say.

In fact i have been watching things very closely and the sell to ratio is better for the 360. Meaning 360 is selling 11/2 time more units then PS3 example. PS3 has been stuck at just over 1.5mil for a bit now. So every week it's selling between 30-50 thousand whereas the 360 is selling 60-80 thousand units in the same week.

http://nexgenwars.com/

GamerGuy07360

It's sold over 2 million, add up NPD numbers you nonse and then add up Media Create JPN numbers.Riviera_Phantom

Those numbers are WORNG!!!

And the PS3 has struggled just past the 1.5mil mark. It's dragging along like a wounded dog.

nexgenwars.com isn't exactly trustworthy...actually, I'm not sure when the last time they've updated, as only the Wii appears to have gone up at all in the last couple of months.  Besides, vgcharts.org was voted the official website on this forum, so it's numbers outweigh nexgenwars.com.psycotictaratua

No you are WRONG. I watch it daily and i see it updat all the time. It refreshes itself thoughout the day.

Look, I find it hard to believe that the PS3 isn't selling. Jack Trenton says there's a shortage, which I believe because he put his money where his mouth is. Obviously someone as high up as Jack Trenton would know better than any of us. What the hell is wrong with you people?

heretrix

LOL.  You believe Jack Tretton?  He's a corporate head who believes that the retail version of Motorstorm looks better than the E3 target video.

[QUOTE="Riviera_Phantom"]It's sold over 2 million, add up NPD numbers you nonse and then add up Media Create JPN numbers.GamerGuy07360

Those numbers are WORNG!!!

And the PS3 has struggled just past the 1.5mil mark. It's dragging along like a wounded dog.

[QUOTE="psycotictaratua"]nexgenwars.com isn't exactly trustworthy...actually, I'm not sure when the last time they've updated, as only the Wii appears to have gone up at all in the last couple of months.  Besides, vgcharts.org was voted the official website on this forum, so it's numbers outweigh nexgenwars.com.GamerGuy07360

No you are WRONG. I watch it daily and i see it updat all the time. It refreshes itself thoughout the day.

Im just assuming this thread is a joke considering its a random counter that isnt based on actually data like vgcharts.

[QUOTE="psycotictaratua"]nexgenwars.com isn't exactly trustworthy...actually, I'm not sure when the last time they've updated, as only the Wii appears to have gone up at all in the last couple of months. Besides, vgcharts.org was voted the official website on this forum, so it's numbers outweigh nexgenwars.com.GamerGuy07360

No you are WRONG. I watch it daily and i see it updat all the time. It refreshes itself thoughout the day.

[QUOTE="GamerGuy07360"]

[QUOTE="psycotictaratua"]nexgenwars.com isn't exactly trustworthy...actually, I'm not sure when the last time they've updated, as only the Wii appears to have gone up at all in the last couple of months. Besides, vgcharts.org was voted the official website on this forum, so it's numbers outweigh nexgenwars.com.MasterChumly

No you are WRONG. I watch it daily and i see it updat all the time. It refreshes itself thoughout the day.

Im just assuming this thread is a joke considering its a random counter that isnt based on actually data like vgcharts.

[QUOTE="MasterChumly"][QUOTE="GamerGuy07360"]

[QUOTE="psycotictaratua"]nexgenwars.com isn't exactly trustworthy...actually, I'm not sure when the last time they've updated, as only the Wii appears to have gone up at all in the last couple of months. Besides, vgcharts.org was voted the official website on this forum, so it's numbers outweigh nexgenwars.com.mjarantilla

No you are WRONG. I watch it daily and i see it updat all the time. It refreshes itself thoughout the day.

Im just assuming this thread is a joke considering its a random counter that isnt based on actually data like vgcharts.

Wrong nextgenwars just uses a counter and randomly adjusts numbers here and there.  vgcharts consistenting adjusts numbers and adds numbers in as they get data.  Its all based off of NPD MC and Famitsu so please tell me why we shouldnt use them. 

[QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="MasterChumly"][QUOTE="GamerGuy07360"]

[QUOTE="psycotictaratua"]nexgenwars.com isn't exactly trustworthy...actually, I'm not sure when the last time they've updated, as only the Wii appears to have gone up at all in the last couple of months. Besides, vgcharts.org was voted the official website on this forum, so it's numbers outweigh nexgenwars.com.MasterChumly

No you are WRONG. I watch it daily and i see it updat all the time. It refreshes itself thoughout the day.

Im just assuming this thread is a joke considering its a random counter that isnt based on actually data like vgcharts.

Wrong nextgenwars just uses a counter and randomly adjusts numbers here and there. vgcharts consistenting adjusts numbers and adds numbers in as they get data. Its all based off of NPD MC and Famitsu so please tell me why we shouldnt use them.

[QUOTE="MasterChumly"][QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="MasterChumly"][QUOTE="GamerGuy07360"]

[QUOTE="psycotictaratua"]nexgenwars.com isn't exactly trustworthy...actually, I'm not sure when the last time they've updated, as only the Wii appears to have gone up at all in the last couple of months. Besides, vgcharts.org was voted the official website on this forum, so it's numbers outweigh nexgenwars.com.mjarantilla

No you are WRONG. I watch it daily and i see it updat all the time. It refreshes itself thoughout the day.

Im just assuming this thread is a joke considering its a random counter that isnt based on actually data like vgcharts.

Wrong nextgenwars just uses a counter and randomly adjusts numbers here and there. vgcharts consistenting adjusts numbers and adds numbers in as they get data. Its all based off of NPD MC and Famitsu so please tell me why we shouldnt use them.

Considering they are VERY close to what those numbers are and they say they use them.  The numbers are also regularly posted on the forums.  So now prove them wrong. 

[QUOTE="heretrix"]

Look, I find it hard to believe that the PS3 isn't selling. Jack Trenton says there's a shortage, which I believe because he put his money where his mouth is. Obviously someone as high up as Jack Trenton would know better than any of us. What the hell is wrong with you people? Don't you remember how well the spring launch went? The PSP completely made everyone forget about the DS and who the hell would want a Wii? The graphics suck..The existing game "library" of the 360 and it's so called "best online service" is a joke. There is no way in hell that Sony could fall flat on it's face. After all the PS2 sold over 100 million units. EVERYBODY that bought a PS2 is going to get a PS3. It's not like 600 dollars is a lot of money. Unless you are poor.:lol:

mjarantilla

Yes. But do you really have to ask? You've seen me post before haven't you?

The funny thing is everyone of those comments were made by cows in system wars since E3 2005.

[QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="MasterChumly"][QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="MasterChumly"][QUOTE="GamerGuy07360"]

[QUOTE="psycotictaratua"]nexgenwars.com isn't exactly trustworthy...actually, I'm not sure when the last time they've updated, as only the Wii appears to have gone up at all in the last couple of months. Besides, vgcharts.org was voted the official website on this forum, so it's numbers outweigh nexgenwars.com.MasterChumly

No you are WRONG. I watch it daily and i see it updat all the time. It refreshes itself thoughout the day.

Im just assuming this thread is a joke considering its a random counter that isnt based on actually data like vgcharts.

Wrong nextgenwars just uses a counter and randomly adjusts numbers here and there. vgcharts consistenting adjusts numbers and adds numbers in as they get data. Its all based off of NPD MC and Famitsu so please tell me why we shouldnt use them.

Considering they are VERY close to what those numbers are and they say they use them. The numbers are also regularly posted on the forums. So now prove them wrong.

NPD - NovPS3: 197,000 - DecPS3: 490,700 - JAnPS3: 244,000 - FebPS3: Approx 150,000????(cmon it can't sell less than 150 in feb) = 1,081,700 NPD don't track Wallmart and other big places, be as blind and ignorant as you want but there is at least 100-300k PS3's being sold outside of videogame retailers, otherwise they would not sell them. Media Create(added weeks) JPNPS3Nov - 155,000 DEcPS3 - 285,000 January-FebPS3 - 260,000 = 700,000 1,300,000 + 700,000 = 2.0 Million. This is not including sales from last week in Japan and currently in America.Riviera_Phantom

NPD does included estimates for these places so please don't think you're being smart by tacking on some imaginary 300k consoles...

[QUOTE="MasterChumly"][QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="MasterChumly"][QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="MasterChumly"][QUOTE="GamerGuy07360"]

[QUOTE="psycotictaratua"]nexgenwars.com isn't exactly trustworthy...actually, I'm not sure when the last time they've updated, as only the Wii appears to have gone up at all in the last couple of months. Besides, vgcharts.org was voted the official website on this forum, so it's numbers outweigh nexgenwars.com.mjarantilla

No you are WRONG. I watch it daily and i see it updat all the time. It refreshes itself thoughout the day.

Im just assuming this thread is a joke considering its a random counter that isnt based on actually data like vgcharts.

Wrong nextgenwars just uses a counter and randomly adjusts numbers here and there. vgcharts consistenting adjusts numbers and adds numbers in as they get data. Its all based off of NPD MC and Famitsu so please tell me why we shouldnt use them.

Considering they are VERY close to what those numbers are and they say they use them. The numbers are also regularly posted on the forums. So now prove them wrong.

The NPD numbers are through the end of January - if you haven't looked at your calendar lately, it's March. :|

Look, I find it hard to believe that the PS3 isn't selling. Jack Trenton says there's a shortage, which I believe because he put his money where his mouth is. Obviously someone as high up as Jack Trenton would know better than any of us. What the hell is wrong with you people?

Don't you remember how well the spring launch went? The PSP completely made everyone forget about the DS and who the hell would want a Wii? The graphics suck..The existing game "library" of the 360 and it's so called "best online service" is a joke. There is no way in hell that Sony could fall flat on it's face. After all the PS2 sold over 100 million units. EVERYBODY that bought a PS2 is going to get a PS3. It's not like 600 dollars is a lot of money. Unless you are poor.:lol:

heretrix

I see what you did thar.

[QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="MasterChumly"][QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="MasterChumly"][QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="MasterChumly"][QUOTE="GamerGuy07360"]

[QUOTE="psycotictaratua"]nexgenwars.com isn't exactly trustworthy...actually, I'm not sure when the last time they've updated, as only the Wii appears to have gone up at all in the last couple of months. Besides, vgcharts.org was voted the official website on this forum, so it's numbers outweigh nexgenwars.com.NotThat_basic

No you are WRONG. I watch it daily and i see it updat all the time. It refreshes itself thoughout the day.

Im just assuming this thread is a joke considering its a random counter that isnt based on actually data like vgcharts.

Wrong nextgenwars just uses a counter and randomly adjusts numbers here and there. vgcharts consistenting adjusts numbers and adds numbers in as they get data. Its all based off of NPD MC and Famitsu so please tell me why we shouldnt use them.

Considering they are VERY close to what those numbers are and they say they use them. The numbers are also regularly posted on the forums. So now prove them wrong.

The NPD numbers are through the end of January - if you haven't looked at your calendar lately, it's March. :|

NO the PS3 has not sold 2 mil like so many fanboys are trying to say.

In fact i have been watching things very closely and the sell to ratio is better for the 360. Meaning 360 is selling 11/2 time more units then PS3 example. PS3 has been stuck at just over 1.5mil for a bit now. So every week it's selling between 30-50 thousand whereas the 360 is selling 60-80 thousand units in the same week.

http://nexgenwars.com/

GamerGuy07360

And if you haven't looked at the sales reports lately NPD DOESN'T RELEASE THEIR NUMBERS FOR ANOTHER 1-2 WEEKS How the HELL can VGCharts.org know what NPD will release before NPD does? BTW, Japanese numbers: For the Wii, Media Create says 1,586,739 as of last week, while VGCharts says 1,750,000 For the PS3, Media Create says 656,968 as of last week, while VGCharts says 730,000 Once again, NOT CLOSE Stop using goddamned VGCharts.org. They always estimate the next month's numbers and add it to the actual sold. Then when the real numbers come out, they adjust. It's the same thing NexGenWars does, except NexGenWars adds constantly.mjarantilla

First of all they inflate the numbers a bit to include ALL of North America and second they estimate for february until they get the numbers in and then adjust accordingly.   Also they dont strickly base they japan numbers off of MC they also go off of famitsu which is also different from MC.  So why shouldnt we use them?  They are an excellent source to go back and look at data.  NexGenWars is completely off so I dont see why your bringing them into here. 

Also those japanese numbers are like 2 weeks old 

And if you haven't looked at the sales reports lately NPD DOESN'T RELEASE THEIR NUMBERS FOR ANOTHER 1-2 WEEKS How the HELL can VGCharts.org know what NPD will release before NPD does? BTW, Japanese numbers: For the Wii, Media Create says 1,586,739 as of last week, while VGCharts says 1,750,000 For the PS3, Media Create says 656,968 as of last week, while VGCharts says 730,000 Once again, NOT CLOSE Stop using goddamned VGCharts.org.mjarantilla

You know - it certainly would help your cause if you learned to read and research before you start typing:

1) They don't necessarily rely on NPD for their number - go to their site and read the 'What is VGCharts' message. What I'm suggesting to you, which you totally dismissed in your fanboy way, is that if NPD reported 1.5 million in the US through the end of January, isn't it quite possible that another 500k Wii's have been sold? Seeing as they can't seem to be found on store shelves, I would guess that means they are still selling at a pretty good clip. Try comparing apples to apples.

2) The don't rely soley on Media Create for their Japanese numbers - go to their site and read the 'What is VGCharts' message. Unlike the US where there is only one readily available tracking firm, Japan has several (Famitsu, Dengeki, Media Create) - I'm sure they use a combination of all three and then some other things as well in order to arrive at their numbers.

second they estimate for february until they get the numbers in and then adjust accordingly.MasterChumly

Also they dont strickly base they japan numbers off of MC they also go off of famitsu which is also different from MC.MasterChumly

They are an excellent source to go back and look at data.MasterChumly

NexGenWars is completely off so I dont see why your bringing them into here. MasterChumly

[QUOTE="mjarantilla"]And if you haven't looked at the sales reports lately NPD DOESN'T RELEASE THEIR NUMBERS FOR ANOTHER 1-2 WEEKS How the HELL can VGCharts.org know what NPD will release before NPD does? BTW, Japanese numbers: For the Wii, Media Create says 1,586,739 as of last week, while VGCharts says 1,750,000 For the PS3, Media Create says 656,968 as of last week, while VGCharts says 730,000 Once again, NOT CLOSE Stop using goddamned VGCharts.org.NotThat_basic

You know - it certainly would help your cause if you learned to read and research before you start typing:

1) They don't necessarily rely on NPD for their number - go to their site and read the 'What is VGCharts' message. What I'm suggesting to you, which you totally dismissed in your fanboy way, is that if NPD reported 1.5 million in the US through the end of January, isn't it quite possible that another 500k Wii's have been sold? Seeing as they can't seem to be found on store shelves, I would guess that means they are still selling at a pretty good clip. Try comparing apples to apples.

2) The don't rely soley on Media Create for their Japanese numbers - go to their site and read the 'What is VGCharts' message. Unlike the US where there is only one readily available tracking firm, Japan has several (Famitsu, Dengeki, Media Create) - I'm sure they use a combination of all three and then some other things as well in order to arrive at their numbers.

Thank you

VGcharts also has to add in Canada and the rest of the Americas and the MC numbers hes using are like 2 weeks old.  I dont see why more people just accept the fact that they are pretty close on their numbers. 

I've looked at all the sales links and all the things being said and NextGen link seems to be the most accurate and updates the most.

So i think the NextGen is the closest we have.

Keep this in Mind COWS used this very site to down the 360 in it's first year.

Now all the sudden this site is trash and can not be trusted when in regards to PS3. 

1) They don't necessarily rely on NPD for their number - go to their site and read the 'What is VGCharts' message. What I'm suggesting to you, which you totally dismissed in your fanboy way, is that if NPD reported 1.5 million in the US through the end of January, isn't it quite possible that another 500k Wii's have been sold? Seeing as they can't seem to be found on store shelves, I would guess that means they are still selling at a pretty good clip. Try comparing apples to apples.NotThat_basic

The don't rely soley on Media Create for their Japanese numbers - go to their site and read the 'What is VGCharts' message. Unlike the US where there is only one readily available tracking firm, Japan has several (Famitsu, Dengeki, Media Create) - I'm sure they use a combination of all three and then some other things as well in order to arrive at their numbers.NotThat_basic

[QUOTE="MasterChumly"]second they estimate for february until they get the numbers in and then adjust accordingly.mjarantilla

Also they dont strickly base they japan numbers off of MC they also go off of famitsu which is also different from MC.MasterChumly

They are an excellent source to go back and look at data.MasterChumly

NexGenWars is completely off so I dont see why your bringing them into here. MasterChumly

Yea considering there SOOOOOOOO off on there estimates when its always less than 100,00 big deal.  So your saying we shouldnt use their overall numbers because they MIGHT be off for a week or two by 100,000 that they will adjust when they get official data?  I dont see what your getting at here because there not even close to being as unreliable as your attempt to make them sound. 

[QUOTE="NotThat_basic"]

[QUOTE="mjarantilla"]And if you haven't looked at the sales reports lately NPD DOESN'T RELEASE THEIR NUMBERS FOR ANOTHER 1-2 WEEKS How the HELL can VGCharts.org know what NPD will release before NPD does? BTW, Japanese numbers: For the Wii, Media Create says 1,586,739 as of last week, while VGCharts says 1,750,000 For the PS3, Media Create says 656,968 as of last week, while VGCharts says 730,000 Once again, NOT CLOSE Stop using goddamned VGCharts.org.MasterChumly

You know - it certainly would help your cause if you learned to read and research before you start typing:

1) They don't necessarily rely on NPD for their number - go to their site and read the 'What is VGCharts' message. What I'm suggesting to you, which you totally dismissed in your fanboy way, is that if NPD reported 1.5 million in the US through the end of January, isn't it quite possible that another 500k Wii's have been sold? Seeing as they can't seem to be found on store shelves, I would guess that means they are still selling at a pretty good clip. Try comparing apples to apples.

2) The don't rely soley on Media Create for their Japanese numbers - go to their site and read the 'What is VGCharts' message. Unlike the US where there is only one readily available tracking firm, Japan has several (Famitsu, Dengeki, Media Create) - I'm sure they use a combination of all three and then some other things as well in order to arrive at their numbers.

Thank you

VGcharts also has to add in Canada and the rest of the Americas and the MC numbers hes using are like 2 weeks old. I dont see why more people just accept the fact that they are pretty close on their numbers.

[quote="NotThat_basic"]1) They don't necessarily rely on NPD for their number - go to their site and read the 'What is VGCharts' message. What I'm suggesting to you, which you totally dismissed in your fanboy way, is that if NPD reported 1.5 million in the US through the end of January, isn't it quite possible that another 500k Wii's have been sold? Seeing as they can't seem to be found on store shelves, I would guess that means they are still selling at a pretty good clip. Try comparing apples to apples.mjarantilla

The don't rely soley on Media Create for their Japanese numbers - go to their site and read the 'What is VGCharts' message. Unlike the US where there is only one readily available tracking firm, Japan has several (Famitsu, Dengeki, Media Create) - I'm sure they use a combination of all three and then some other things as well in order to arrive at their numbers.NotThat_basic

Dude if you add in 1.5 weeks of sales that MC hasnt added in yet.  The Wii is SPOT on and the PS3 is off by like 50,000 units which is about what Famitsu has it at. 

[QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="MasterChumly"]second they estimate for february until they get the numbers in and then adjust accordingly.MasterChumly

Also they dont strickly base they japan numbers off of MC they also go off of famitsu which is also different from MC.MasterChumly

They are an excellent source to go back and look at data.MasterChumly

NexGenWars is completely off so I dont see why your bringing them into here. MasterChumly

Yea considering there SOOOOOOOO off on there estimates when its always less than 100,00 big deal. So your saying we shouldnt use their overall numbers because they MIGHT be off for a week or two by 100,000 that they will adjust when they get official data? I dont see what your getting at here because there not even close to being as unreliable as your attempt to make them sound.

NPD - NovPS3: 197,000 - DecPS3: 490,700 - JAnPS3: 244,000 - FebPS3: Approx 150,000????(cmon it can't sell less than 150 in feb) = 1,081,700 NPD don't track Wallmart and other big places, be as blind and ignorant as you want but there is at least 100-300k PS3's being sold outside of videogame retailers, otherwise they would not sell them. Media Create(added weeks) JPNPS3Nov - 155,000 DEcPS3 - 285,000 January-FebPS3 - 260,000 = 700,000 1,300,000 + 700,000 = 2.0 Million. This is not including sales from last week in Japan and currently in America.Riviera_Phantom

I'm pretty sure NPD numbers assume Walmart numbers in them.

[QUOTE="mjarantilla"][quote="NotThat_basic"]1) They don't necessarily rely on NPD for their number - go to their site and read the 'What is VGCharts' message. What I'm suggesting to you, which you totally dismissed in your fanboy way, is that if NPD reported 1.5 million in the US through the end of January, isn't it quite possible that another 500k Wii's have been sold? Seeing as they can't seem to be found on store shelves, I would guess that means they are still selling at a pretty good clip. Try comparing apples to apples.MasterChumly

The don't rely soley on Media Create for their Japanese numbers - go to their site and read the 'What is VGCharts' message. Unlike the US where there is only one readily available tracking firm, Japan has several (Famitsu, Dengeki, Media Create) - I'm sure they use a combination of all three and then some other things as well in order to arrive at their numbers.NotThat_basic

Dude if you add in 1.5 weeks of sales that MC hasnt added in yet. The Wii is SPOT on and the PS3 is off by like 50,000 units which is about what Famitsu has it at.

[QUOTE="MasterChumly"]

[QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="MasterChumly"]second they estimate for february until they get the numbers in and then adjust accordingly.mjarantilla

Also they dont strickly base they japan numbers off of MC they also go off of famitsu which is also different from MC.MasterChumly

They are an excellent source to go back and look at data.MasterChumly

NexGenWars is completely off so I dont see why your bringing them into here. MasterChumly

Yea considering there SOOOOOOOO off on there estimates when its always less than 100,00 big deal. So your saying we shouldnt use their overall numbers because they MIGHT be off for a week or two by 100,000 that they will adjust when they get official data? I dont see what your getting at here because there not even close to being as unreliable as your attempt to make them sound.

Sigh I dont know why your SOOOOOOOO upset about vgcharts.  Have they offended you in some way.  Is your console not selling as well as you like it to?  They try and give us sales data that we can look at and give us the best world wide console sales that can be found on the internet.  So you want us to wait for more shipments numbers from MS SONY and NINTENDO? When we know those cant be trusted?  So again why shouldnt we use them if they are BARELY off.

[QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="MasterChumly"]

[QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="MasterChumly"]second they estimate for february until they get the numbers in and then adjust accordingly.MasterChumly

Also they dont strickly base they japan numbers off of MC they also go off of famitsu which is also different from MC.MasterChumly

They are an excellent source to go back and look at data.MasterChumly

NexGenWars is completely off so I dont see why your bringing them into here. MasterChumly

Yea considering there SOOOOOOOO off on there estimates when its always less than 100,00 big deal. So your saying we shouldnt use their overall numbers because they MIGHT be off for a week or two by 100,000 that they will adjust when they get official data? I dont see what your getting at here because there not even close to being as unreliable as your attempt to make them sound.

Sigh I dont know why your SOOOOOOOO upset about vgcharts. Have they offended you in some way. Is your console not selling as well as you like it to? They try and give us sales data that we can look at and give us the best world wide console sales that can be found on the internet. So you want us to want for more shipments numbers from MS SONY and NINTENDO? When we know those cant be trusted? So again why shouldnt we use them if they are BARELY off.