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#1  Edited By KBFloYd
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so...it sold 300k in japan.

thats whatever. 1million in japan is a sign of a big franchise.

this shows the game remains niche even after cows try to hype it.

how will it sell in the west? this is not a good sign.

i mean, it will sell more than a million worldwide after its all said and done. thats the best selling persona game but it didnt make the commercial crossover weeaboos wanted.

http://gematsu.com/2016/09/media-create-sales-91916-92516

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#2 SolidGame_basic
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It will sell well in the west. Persona 4 Golden was very successful on the Vita, and that is a true niche system.

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#3 mark1974
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It's been a while since I felt we could look at Japan sales as actually meaning anything. But our Gamespot Flop culture must live on regardless so I guess enjoy that?

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@mark1974 said:

It's been a while since I felt we could look at Japan sales as actually meaning anything. But our Gamespot Flop culture must live on regardless so I guess enjoy that?

what japanese game has sold poor in japan but sold tons in the west?

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#5  Edited By AzatiS
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@KBFloYd said:

so...it sold 300k in japan.

thats whatever. 1million in japan is a sign of a big franchise.

this shows the game remains niche even after cows try to hype it.

how will it sell in the west? this is not a good sign.

i mean, it will sell more than a million worldwide after its all said and done. thats the best selling persona game but it didnt make the commercial crossover weeaboos wanted.

http://gematsu.com/2016/09/media-create-sales-91916-92516

Be gone sheep.

Games greatness are not going along with sales. Bait thread

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@KBFloYd said:
@mark1974 said:

It's been a while since I felt we could look at Japan sales as actually meaning anything. But our Gamespot Flop culture must live on regardless so I guess enjoy that?

what japanese game has sold poor in japan but sold tons in the west?

Games in general do not sell like they used to in Japan. The west is now the bigger focus for sales. No?

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Going to be a big fail.

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#9 speedfreak48t5p
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Charizard must be sad.

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#10  Edited By KBFloYd
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@mark1974 said:
@KBFloYd said:
@mark1974 said:

It's been a while since I felt we could look at Japan sales as actually meaning anything. But our Gamespot Flop culture must live on regardless so I guess enjoy that?

what japanese game has sold poor in japan but sold tons in the west?

Games in general do not sell like they used to in Japan. The west is now the bigger focus for sales. No?

yes...now tell me which game proves your point.

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#11  Edited By KBFloYd
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@ominous_titan said:

Going to be a big fail.

yup..game was hyped like the 2nd coming of RPG's lol japan was like...nah

yokai watch IP did far better for atlus.

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@speedfreak48t5p said:

Charizard must be sad.

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#14  Edited By AzatiS
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@KBFloYd said:
@AzatiS said:
@KBFloYd said:

so...it sold 300k in japan.

thats whatever. 1million in japan is a sign of a big franchise.

this shows the game remains niche even after cows try to hype it.

how will it sell in the west? this is not a good sign.

i mean, it will sell more than a million worldwide after its all said and done. thats the best selling persona game but it didnt make the commercial crossover weeaboos wanted.

http://gematsu.com/2016/09/media-create-sales-91916-92516

Be gone sheep.

Games greatness are not going along with sales. Bait thread

blow me tourist...go visit the canada forums.

Go play with your PS4 sheep and let bait threads for other people with talent on that

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and after all that hype

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#16 Kashiwaba
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Persona 5 sold 550K in Japan so far that's the highest number for the franchise and it moved 150k ps4s in just 9 days.

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@speedfreak48t5p said:

Charizard must be sad.

wheres he been, anyways? Taking a nap?

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#18  Edited By aigis
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wtf are you even talking about, its the most successful start in the franchise for japan. It was expected to hit around the 500k mark for September and it succeeded, 70% of its original shipment was sold day 1. Isnt Japan supposed to be a handheld market anyways?

Edit:

Its also sold about 400k as well now, your 300k mark is off

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#19  Edited By KBFloYd
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@Kashiwaba said:

Persona 5 sold 550K in Japan so far that's the highest number for the franchise and it moved 150k ps4s in just 9 days.

the damage control begins....

it sold 300k....and sold 40k this week...every week after that will be less and less unless it has legs....

550k is shipped by atlus which obviously retailers were expecting more demand than there actually was.....atlus done ripped them off.

also the ps4 slim was just released with a price cut in japan...thats why ps4 numbers were high.

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#20 aigis
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@jcrame10 said:
@speedfreak48t5p said:

Charizard must be sad.

wheres he been, anyways? Taking a nap?

he left gs a while ago

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@aigis said:

wtf are you even talking about, its the most successful start in the franchise for japan. It was expected to hit around the 500k mark for September and it succeeded, 70% of its original shipment was sold day 1.

That's on two platforms mind you...

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#22  Edited By Sollet
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On the other hand playstation software sales dominates that chart of yours.

Must sting.

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@aigis said:
@jcrame10 said:
@speedfreak48t5p said:

Charizard must be sad.

wheres he been, anyways? Taking a nap?

he left gs a while ago

why??

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#24  Edited By KBFloYd
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bro...the game sold 300k.....these are real numbers...

atlus are claiming they SHIPPED 550k

it didnt do as good as expected. im sure that 550k is probably the first and last shipment atlus will be doing in japan.

@aigis said:

wtf are you even talking about, its the most successful start in the franchise for japan. It was expected to hit around the 500k mark for September and it succeeded, 70% of its original shipment was sold day 1.

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#25 Chutebox
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I remember that time when people where hyping sales for this game. Er, do I?

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@Sollet said:

On the other hand playstation software sales dominates that chart of yours.

Must sting.

not really nintendo already destroyed any sales sony gets over there.....3ds and wiiu are last gen....ps4 is sucking left overs right now. as soon as nx releases. the nintendo sony anal violation will commence again in japan....

awwww yeeah.

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@jcrame10 said:
@aigis said:
@jcrame10 said:
@speedfreak48t5p said:

Charizard must be sad.

wheres he been, anyways? Taking a nap?

he left gs a while ago

why??

He had life stuff, he posted about it in the lounge, but you know what he posted today so I guess hes back

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#28 aigis
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@KBFloYd: Whatever, you didnt even post the first media crate when it come on. Persona 5 was 1st and 2nd. You are just spreading misinformation

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#29 aigis
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@dynamitecop: true, but unless people are buying two copies, there is demand for it

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#30 Basinboy
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Color me surprised, though I take this more as a sign of the sad state of the Japanese gaming market than as a sign of the game being sub-par.

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#31  Edited By dynamitecop
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@aigis said:

@dynamitecop: true, but unless people are buying two copies, there is demand for it

True, but you need to treat them independently, as they are separate from each other.

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#32  Edited By KBFloYd
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@KBFloYd: Whatever, you didnt even post the first media crate when it come on. Persona 5 was 1st and 2nd. You are just spreading misinformation

i clearly stated in the OP it will be the best selling persona game. just like your cute little graph says.

what i am saying is that it didnt cross over into the mainstream like finalfantasy or witcher 3/skyrim or something.

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#33  Edited By aigis
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@dynamitecop: even if you take just ps4 sales, its still the best selling launch for the series. Its around the 260k mark

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#34 aigis
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@KBFloYd: you posted the week late report and then posted a bait title for it

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#35 KBFloYd
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@aigis said:

@KBFloYd: you posted the week late report and then posted a bait title for it

dude ...almost every decent game gets 1st place in media create the first week or two...

now the dust is settled and we can see the reality.

as for my thread title....its harsh but its true...as i explained here.

@KBFloYd said:

what i am saying is that it didnt cross over into the mainstream like finalfantasy or witcher 3/skyrim or something.

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#36  Edited By aigis
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@KBFloYd said:
@aigis said:

@KBFloYd: you posted the week late report and then posted a bait title for it

dude ...almost every decent game gets 1st place in media create the first week or two...

now the dust is settled and we can see the reality.

as for my thread title....its harsh but its true...as i explained here.

I disagree, its really bait-y for a very loose reason and it has always been a niche game.

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Its a niche anime JRPG. Most people had never even heard of the series until 4 came out on the Vita. Why was it ever hyped as a megaton system seller to begin with?

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#38 mark1974
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@KBFloYd said:
@Sollet said:

On the other hand playstation software sales dominates that chart of yours.

Must sting.

not really nintendo already destroyed any sales sony gets over there.....3ds and wiiu are last gen....ps4 is sucking left overs right now. as soon as nx releases. the nintendo sony anal violation will commence again in japan....

awwww yeeah.

Oh I get it now. This is fanboy stuff. You like Nintendo. Don't like a game on another console because it's on another console. I feel so stupid now. I'm actually not a Persona fan so I will quit discussing this now. I'm a bit too old for this thread I think and I'm rather embarrassed!

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@NathanDrakeSwag said:

Its a niche anime JRPG. Most people had never even heard of the series until 4 came out on the Vita. Why was it ever hyped as a megaton system seller to begin with?

It was hyped as a big seller?

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#40  Edited By KBFloYd
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@NathanDrakeSwag said:

Its a niche anime JRPG. Most people had never even heard of the series until 4 came out on the Vita. Why was it ever hyped as a megaton system seller to begin with?

good question.

let's let all the offending cows come in and answer...

EDIT:

actually...this was one reason

the first persona 5 reveal trailer got a million views.

it was huge. one of the most hyped game from that tokyo game show i think it was. cows were hyped. guess the delays hurt it a lot.

i think this was it

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#41  Edited By lamprey263
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Past games have been great, it might be niche in the idea that only a small amount of people have come to appreciate it, but I dare say it's niche in design. As far as JRPGs go, I find these to be highly accessible JRPGs. They certainly aren't as punishingly difficult as the other SMT games but have gameplay that feels good. They have great localization in North America (not sure about other regions). They have great characters, excellent balance between dungeon crawling and social aspects. Great writing, art design, usually a catchy soundtrack. Kept in a modern setting and not the dime-a-dozen fantasy settings of mythical ancient times.

The big mistake regarding this series has been its niche base, it remains niche because they've really not given anybody a good opportunity to try it. The games are at the top of their game but they only release these games on one system. Furthermore, didn't help that it came out on PS2 back when people were transitioning to PS3, they never did a thing to bring those games to (then) current gen consoles like PS3, Xbox 360, Wii, or even PC. Their problem, IMO, is lack of exposure. Hell, even last gen was the perfect opportunity for the Persona games to make a name for themselves, after all Square Enix was a massive disappointment with their long delays for the poorly received FFXIII, the delays to FFvsXIII (now FFXV), and that other generically bad JRPGs like Last Remnant and Infinite Undiscovery and Star Ocean: Last Hope. They never jumped on the opportunity.

This series needs a tremendous effort to reach out to a greater audience, they already nailed making these games great, so even if they keep making good games then it isn't going to do anything to grow the base. They need to reach out to a greater audience. Make it for other systems, make it for Xbox One and PC. At the very least, if Atlus is actively cheerleading for Sony by not releasing on Xbox One, make it for PC. Surely with more people trying it, more people talking about it, stronger word of mouth, the series will grow in a meaningful way. And, even if there's some contractual restriction with Sony that prevents them from doing this, then make a Persona 3/4 definitive collection or something. Give people a good real chance to appreciate the series by porting it to PC/XB1. That way when Sony is like "Persona 5 is a PS4 exclusive", that will carry weight with more people.

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#42 aigis
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@NathanDrakeSwag: it wasnt, its always been a niche series

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#43 mmmwksil
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*game didn't sell mainstream numbers*

Never expected it to. Don't care if it does. I'm a fan of the developer, I'm a fan of the series, I am looking forward to playing it, and nothing will change that short of an Internet-wide realization that the game was in fact terrible. Which unless people are keeping a huge secret, isn't the case.

Go baa at Nintendo for not giving you more to play this year.

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@KBFloYd said:

so...it sold 300k in japan.

thats whatever. 1million in japan is a sign of a big franchise.

this shows the game remains niche even after cows try to hype it.

how will it sell in the west? this is not a good sign.

i mean, it will sell more than a million worldwide after its all said and done. thats the best selling persona game but it didnt make the commercial crossover weeaboos wanted.

http://gematsu.com/2016/09/media-create-sales-91916-92516

Why is everyone who likes something Japanese a weeaboo? It's like people don't even understand the words they're using.

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It'll end the year as one of the best-selling titles in Japan.

Man, I should check in with char, maybe we can console each other over this massive flop.

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@Chutebox said:
@NathanDrakeSwag said:

Its a niche anime JRPG. Most people had never even heard of the series until 4 came out on the Vita. Why was it ever hyped as a megaton system seller to begin with?

It was hyped as a big seller?

By some it was. People thought because the one on Vita sold nearly a million that it meant Persona 5 would sell a lot more because of the PS4's install base. I always assumed that Persona fans are just hardcore enough to buy a Vita just to play it and that there wasn't much room for it to grow in popularity.

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#47 tubbyc
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Oh, it's just sales. I thought this was going to be about a review. We all knew it's not a huge mainstream series on the level of some other RPGs. I'm looking forward to it because I liked the last one so much.

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@mark1974 said:
@KBFloYd said:
@Sollet said:

On the other hand playstation software sales dominates that chart of yours.

Must sting.

not really nintendo already destroyed any sales sony gets over there.....3ds and wiiu are last gen....ps4 is sucking left overs right now. as soon as nx releases. the nintendo sony anal violation will commence again in japan....

awwww yeeah.

Oh I get it now. This is fanboy stuff. You like Nintendo. Don't like a game on another console because it's on another console. I feel so stupid now. I'm actually not a Persona fan so I will quit discussing this now. I'm a bit too old for this thread I think and I'm rather embarrassed!

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#49 mark1974
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@KBFloYd said:
@mark1974 said:
@KBFloYd said:
@Sollet said:

On the other hand playstation software sales dominates that chart of yours.

Must sting.

not really nintendo already destroyed any sales sony gets over there.....3ds and wiiu are last gen....ps4 is sucking left overs right now. as soon as nx releases. the nintendo sony anal violation will commence again in japan....

awwww yeeah.

Oh I get it now. This is fanboy stuff. You like Nintendo. Don't like a game on another console because it's on another console. I feel so stupid now. I'm actually not a Persona fan so I will quit discussing this now. I'm a bit too old for this thread I think and I'm rather embarrassed!

I am exactly that old man! LOL.

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#50 KBFloYd
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@Slashkice said:

It'll end the year as one of the best-selling titles in Japan.

Man, I should check in with char, maybe we can console each other over this massive flop.