Phil Spencer Says It's Okay to Not Buy an Xbox

lol you instantly recognized yourself as a shill and a really defensive and angry one at that. Sorry to ruffle your sensitive feathers bud but it is what it is. Don't get mad at others for laughing at how dumb you guys look and prove yourselves to be.

Just look how you go ballistic commando trying to defend this shit whenever someone calls it how they see it. I've been gaming since arcades where the main way to play video games and a console without exclusives has no soul...it's worthless.

Go pitch your crying nonsense to someone else, I'm not the one who looks dumb because the company you choose to fanboy shill for has pulled more 180s on you than a champion gymnast during the Olympics.

If tomorrow Phil came out and said exclusives were the way to go you'd totally change your turn. lol you're a muppet don't talk like you have standards. You'll go with whatever bs MS gives you and you'll say it's the best thing ever FOH.

I game on PC primarily so I have no idea what you're trying to accomplish here or what "you guys" is supposed to mean like I am other people or something.

It's plain to see you have some illogical attachment to a Sony branded piece of plastic and act like a dipshit as a result. I throw allegiance to nothing, but what I do see taking place is a bunch of people like yourself attacking what is for all intents and purposes a good thing, it's no coincidence that you're all Sony fanatics and I could list you one by one.

What do you get out of trying to make this look bad and twisting the contextual basis for what is being said? What purpose does it serve, the Xbox One is going to share games with PC, exclusives could very well not exist anymore, woopdie doo, what does it matter? It doesn't, people are still going to buy the console and now people on PC are going to buy the games as well...

It's like you're trying to invent a problem that doesn't actually exist, why?

Way ahead of you Phil.

@lostrib: Something I've heard a long time ago. I've looked it up now and it looks like it's a British idiom in origin. I usually don't absorb them, but it actually happened with this one.

Xbox Division is more than just games on Xbox. Phil doesn't mind you buying it on Windows 10, as long as its not PS4 he looks good.

Three reasons,

1.The Xbox ecosystem is more important to Microsoft than the Xbox itself.

2.They don't care as long as it the name Microsoft on it.

3.Theres more money to be made in software sales than hardware sales.

@casharmy: Man your comments are such nonsense.

You are the one speaking in complete fanboyism.

If MS makes a gaming ecosystem where you can play a game on either Xbox One or PC yet all play together, that only strengthens that community.

You will always have console gamers, it's a fact.

Now if MS has an ecosystem where you purchase COD on Xbox One and you have a friend that plays and purchases COD through the Win10 store and you are able to play with each other, how do you spin that into negativity and awfulness?

It immediately makes MS have the "potential" largest gaming community. Which will make developers want to put their games on that ecosystem, which will give the fanboys the ammunition of "you can only play this game via Xbox1 or Win10 PC". So all will be well in your little fanboy war of arguments.

Three reasons,

1.The Xbox ecosystem is more important to Microsoft than the Xbox itself.

2.They don't care as long as it the name Microsoft on it.

3.Theres more money to be made in software sales than hardware sales.

Basically what Phil is saying is 'we don't care if you buy and Xbox because we will be taking your money anyway when you buy our games'

Also, your post is basically ignorant because not everyone can afford a gaming rig but might want to play games like Halo and Forza and gears amdnd some people just want a cheaper option to play these games.

I cannot afford a gaming rig so i only game on consoles

this stupid belief that every gamer has or can even afford a Competent gaming rig, a Myth that was actually debunked by cows themselves when they Proved there where not that many PC gamers with PC's more powerful than the PS4, needs to die.

I think your guys are forgetting the little caviot, half into this generation MS cares more about the Xbox ecosystem. They didn't start to care about the so called ecosystem until they started to get their butts kicked.

Nobody who plays games on a good PC gives a flying **** about playing the same games with vastly inferior quality on an Xbox One so this ecosystem nonsense means absolutely nothing to anyone.

The people with a legitimate gripe about Xbox one 'exclusives' coming to PC are PC gamers like me who bought an Xbox One for the exclusives with no idea they would all come to PC. It doesn't affect console gamers at all. At least I have learned now never to buy another MS console again if they ever make another one. PC and Sony is the way to go for me, specially since Halo is now complete junk under 343 outside of multiplayer.

I accept times change and they have had to change their strategy after they got destroyed by the success of the PS4 due in no small part to the monumental **** ups they made at launch I just wish I could have seen this coming but as it stands I'll probably sell the Xbox One and the games I have for it and see what I can get for my 970 too and put a 980ti in my PC which means I can play games in 4K. That would be something of a happy ending for me and nothing that idiot Spencer does will affect me. If their PC ports are only available through their store that's fine too there are lots of other games for me to play.

Not really. MS is putting their exclusives on PC so there is no real need to buy the box. Sony isn't doing that so you need the PS4 to play those games.

Which is why the Xbox ecosystem started to appear on PC and Windows phones in 2012 before the release of the xbox one right?

http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2012/09/what-xbox-games-on-windows-actually-means/

Then sell it, quit whining and pull the trigger, no one wants to read your wall of text about how Phil Spencer wronged you...

Everybody acting like over-dramatic teenage girls as if they're stuck with this thing or something, shut up.

I can play Ni-Oh, Uncharted 4, The Last Guardian, Horizon, the new Ratchet and Persona 5 on PC?

News to me.

This is what we called BONED.

PS4 has lots of good exclusive games that you cannot play anywhere else and when I see a comments like this, it also shows that you haven't done your research what games are available to play only on PS4, never mind the PC/console exclusive.

And nobody wants to read your endless pro-Microsoft drivel there is post after post from you on here telling everyone how great this new 'ecosystem' garbage is. For someone constantly telling everyone they should not care about this you seem to be completely obsessed with it yourself, dumbass. This is a forum where people express their opinions. If you have a problem with that the internet is the wrong place for you.

How manny flip flops has it been for the Bone now?

All In One machine, then Games machine and now Eco System? Wonder if they try and bring back the Kinect?

@dynamitecop: You're one of the best posters on SW, I love how you destroy all the Fanboy bullshit comments

I think it's the wrong place for you, you should be on Craigslist right now listing your Xbox One instead of whining about something that's not going to change, that's what a normal person would do. You're not here with the motivation to actually do something about these decisions which you claim affect you so much, you're here to whine about it with no plans for action.

Sell it and get on with your life, you're acting like someone stole your lunch, no one wants to read your woe is me drivel.

Stick around, it's only going to get better.

@delta3074: Yeah, now give us a date when the focus became clear the Xbox ecosystem was more important than the actual Xbox console, historian.

Watch your back Phil, Bill don't take kindly to this kind of stuff, this is war baby. lol

:P

I'll sell my Xbox One when it suits me, not you. I'm not on here posting in the hopes of changing anything I'm commenting on the situation just like everyone else. If you can't differentiate expressing an opinion from your favourite word 'whining' I don't think you have the literary skills to take part in this discussion. Maybe ask an adult to read the posts and post on your behalf?

Why are you even here if this doesn't affect you? You're going to great lengths to attack everyone who doesn't accept everything MS does without question and accuse them of 'whining' and yet you tell me to get on with my life lol, priceless.

Sounds good for me. I look forward to having more games on my PC. :P

The only real way to blur the line is allow the xbox one to install PC games and allow PC to install XBO games and that is not happening.

Tell them to start moving to PS because who know were the brand will be next gen..lol

That is because Phil is not really in charge he is just a face.just like Don was a face and was move when the vision of MS itself was pit on him.

The decisions Phil is taken are already taken for him,and i don't think he can be blame for what it is happening now,MS has a board of investors who want the brand dead and gone and MS to focus on software again,so this was probably the xbox last shot at glory and looking how the PS4 stole its thunder i think investors have just had enough.

There is no reason why MS should have close lionhead and other studios and kill fable on the process MS is not in need of money or was in bad shape like sony,from what i can see they are starting by chopping the lesser studios and moving most its games to PC,if the xbox brand is gone you have windows store and you can buy a PC and get it there is the only thing that really make sense.

Time to bookmark this post..lol

But but but you are not a lemming right.?

Hahahahahaa... Why would any one want an xbox one now that its games are coming to PC.? The reason they were not on PC since 2001 is that if you can have it on PC which is more open,more efficient and with no toll both why would any one go PC.?

Without exclusives your product is nothing,every company understand this MS also does,they are doing this because the brand is dying as simple as that,so they are moving its games to windows store,probably in an effort to move some xbox fans there to.

Xbox is dying and he comfirmed it. I wasnt going to support them in eithet anyway. Ps4 and PC.

@tormentos: bookmark whatever you want you creepy stalker

It's so hard to read your posts without my head hurting.

What is it going to take for a person such as yourself to understand that A. a small minority of console gamers also use PC's for gaming B. most console gamers don't care about PC gaming or even want to use one for games and C. the only people that may leave the Xbox One platform is a percentage of that already small percentage of Xbox One owners who also game on PC.

Stop saying nonsense like "your product", it's just A product, it's a piece of plastic and metal, it's not mine, I have no ties to this thing except it plays video games and some of the ones it has I enjoy. Games going to the PC isn't going to affect 80-90% of the Xbox One user base if not more, or the future potential user base, most people who buy consoles get them because they don't care about anything else, they don't want to deal with a PC, they don't want to spend large amounts of money, they just want something simple and cheap they can play a video game on.

You have this insane notion that because future Xbox One games have the possibility of being shared with the PC that all of sudden everyone is just going to become PC gamers, and it's up there as one of the dumbest things I've ever read someone say on the Internet.

Reality is no one knows how big or small it is,you can't prove is a minority any more than any one can prove it is huge.

And you are grasping and with a terrible damage control i may add kingtito.

You are a lemming and you are not fooling any one..hahahaaa

You throw allegiance to nothing yet you only defend the crappy xbox one,funny isn't how it is always lemmings who defend the xbox the ones that want to project them self an some kind of impartial or non biased gamers who games mostly on PC.

You,Kingtito,blackace,Nyadc,B4X you name them but all of you have 1 thing in common and is a profound love for defending the xbox brand,and the problem is that you can't see what you do.

To you know it doesn't matter to lemmings last gen and this one before the whole windows 10 unity crap it did matter,so pretending now that exclusives don't matter here is a joke,specially since we all know this account is a alter for either Kingtito or Stormyjoe which are the 2 poster that usually reply back to posters insulting their intelligence,you just gave your self in easy.

The problem exist is there the is no point in buying an xbox one if its games land on PC,the XBO will be a closed windows 10 PC with non of the benefits and a $60 online toll both.

WTF...hahahaa The xbox division is XBOX is all it is,it is now being merge with PC in a pathetic way,because on PC you get openess and no online fee + many m ore games the xbox one doesn't get,this is a deal were only PC gamers are the real winners,the xbox loss its identity what make it unique,its games what you lemmings for 2 generations claimed as the reason to get an xbox is no more,hell it benefits me if i want to play QB i can with my PC and now i don't have to buy an xbox,same for gears forza and other games to.

That is not even close to what is being done here Delta.

The best way to think of the Xbox Games on Windows is as a PC-based version of Xbox Live Arcade. Like the console-based game download service, Microsoft will directly control game approval and release scheduling on Xbox Games on Windows. Developers will still be able to submit normal downloadable games for sale through the regular Windows 8 Store, of course, or just release PC games on their own. But those titles won't be launchable through the preinstalled Metro-style (sorry— Window 8-style UI) Xbox on Windows app. Nor will they be integrated with existing Xbox Live features like Achievements, friends lists, Avatars, leaderboards and in-game rewards. A representative told me that Microsoft hopes to roll out games regularly every week, just like it does on Xbox Live Arcade, but that the company hopes to speed up the release process down the line.

This is nothing like what is being done here,what you linked talk about an xbox live arcade like store,where multiplatforms games will be release,not MS exclusives.

@tormentos: I seriously cannot be bothered with you anymore, what a colossal waste of time.

What's the difference with Sony being OK nobody buys a Vita or develops any games for it ?

Wall of text is my kryptonite. Good Day.

Some of yall really need to grow the fudge up. It's not killing the xbox brand just because a few exclusive are on both PC and the Xbox. People have to eat and live you know. I mean honestly just sell the console and get a PC if it really upsets you that much. Personally to me I don't give a sugar honey ice tea because the games will still be out of the xbox one and that really all that matters. It's like when Street Fighter 5 got released for the PS4 and PC. PS people really should not have cared because it's still out for the PS4. Geez yall either must really be making boat loads of money job wise or really must have sticks up your butts just because a game came out for the PC.

I would curse but I'm trying to watch my language.

Well, if they want people to buy Xbox One, they kind of need to give people a reason to buy it. If there are no exclusives whats the point?

I won't buy it, either. It would be great if they stick with this. They are very pro-gamer right now.

If you don't own a PC, if you can't afford a PC, if you don't want a PC, that's not hard to figure out, and that's the vast majority of people who buy consoles.

In the end the games are as exclusive as your position is on having a gaming PC, hell, most general consumers won't even know that these games are available on PC. On top of this we don't know the extent of exactly what will or will not be releasing on the PC in the future, so there's that as well.

LOL Phil needs to make up his mind really. Either way just giving me games to play on the X1 and I'll be happy. Keep giving me the games Phil and keep up the good work.

lol silly lemming.

Prove it link me to statics showing that most consoles gamers don't own a PC or care for one.

It is you who don't get it,PC getting the xbox one games make the xbox one be a non factor this days you can build a PC quite cheap.

Yeah i see you are pulling those % from deep deep down your buns,you don't have any way to measure how bad the impact will be all i know is i wanted an xbox one for QB and no longer i need one,that is a LOSS for MS,now i am now saying i would have get one this year but i was planning to if it was $250 or less this holiday with those games coming to PC who cares i have a R270 and FX6350 which will chew and spit the xbox one.

Yeah people always say that but when my claims come true they start backtracking...lol

And you are a joke Stormy.

Yeah those games count only on xbox on PS they don't count and is the hypocrisy of lemmings the problem,so The last of us doesn't matter because it is on PS3,but some how the xbox one sharing its games with PC is ok.

Fact is just like no one need a PS4 for the last of us no one need an xbox one for QB,Forza,Gears and many others that will come the PC way.

Again after 2 generations saying get an xbox because of its exclusive is down right pathetic and sad that people want to act as if exclusives mean nothing now is a total joke because the console they defend got the short end of the stick.

To play COD in inferior form with a toll both for online play and with their friends..hahahahaa

If you don't own a PC.? How is that a point if you don't own an xbox either.?

If you can't afford a PC come on $350 + $60 for online play is $410 with that you build a stronger than xbox one PC without any problems i already proved that,and next year you don't have to fork $60 more on PC either,is the reason i got a PC and a PS4,PS exclusives PC for multiplatforms.

Yeah because most consumers don't have a phone and internet to know anything this days.

Again the real winner here is PC which has a ton of games not on xbox one and now is getting the XBO exclusives as well.

theres no need, it's been pretty obvious for ages now to most gamers with a brain.

People seem to forget that Microsoft is a software company first not a hardware company and it's pretty obvious in 2012 that microsoft wanted the Xbox ecosystem across all of there devices and operating systems to unify those systems.

not that it matters, they are doing what they are doing and the only people that see a problem with it are the people who won't benefit, Xbox one owners are fine with it and PC gamers are fine with it as long as MS sorts out issues with it's windows stores.

you also eed to look outside your little bubble, it's only been issue here on system wars outside of system wars no one really cares, people will carry on buying Xbox ones, they will carry on buying Ps4's and PC gamers will continue to upgrade there rigs.

you see what Phil is saying, from my perspective, is 'we don't care if you buy an xbox or not because we are going to take your money anyway when you buy our games'

the Smart person knows that the Money is in Software, Games not hardware and the more platforms you can release your games on the greater potential earning capacity you have.

I also feel his statement was aimed at those PC gamers who will never buy a console, they cannot take there money for the hardware but they can take there money for the games.

This is all about BANK for them at the end of the day just like it is for any Efficient, successful company, whether the Xbox one will suffer in sales is something we will have to wait and see but i think it's pretty obvious that they will make much more Bank on there games if they are released on multiple platforms.

there reasoning for why they are doing it is actually irrelevant really the point is they are doing it.

@tormentos: I'm not even talking to you so stop quoting me, get it through your thick skull, I'm never having any discussion with you again so never quote me again because from this point forward I will never respond to anything you ever have to say.

You're a mindless, illiterate waste of my time, I have nothing else to say to you.

Really?

Since when is it possible to play Uncharted, God of War, The Last of Us, Ratchet and Clank, etc on a PC?

That's what this is about. If you have a respectable gaming PC, there's really no use in owning an XBone. Not with games like Gears of War, Quantum Break, Scalebound (most likely), etc set to release on PC. And a franchise like Halo is sure to inevitably follow.

You can white knight this all you want, but the facts are the shift in focus for the Xdivision is directly related to the X1 not being as successful as the heads would have liked. Anyone with half a brain that head is not up MS butt can see that.

I own a X1, but I dare not try to speak for everyone that owns a X1 by says that they are all okay with MS shift in focus. Only a real tool would make such an asinine excursion.

You people sound like you are reading off of a MR PR pamphlet.

Believe what you like, at the end of the day I do not care what you think.

Good call Phil. Wasnt gonna buy that P.O.S but thanks!

That's cool...I guess.

@StrongBlackVine: Yes but the question is specific to a PC Gamer. I could specifically tell my friends who own a PS4 and play call of duty, fifa, NBA 2016 and multiplats that they don't need a PS4, just get a PC. That's what I'm getting at. For example naughtyottsel listed a bunch of reason why he would buy a Ps4. Lots of the the replies to my comment are specific cases just like what I mentioned. So there are many reasons to own/not own a xbox one/ps4.

@frank_castle: but say someone doesn't like any of those games, they wouldn't need a PS4 then if all they play is call of duty, fifa, NBA 2k and the majority of other multiplats that dominate the charts yearly.

Actually in the case of sports games, I would recommend playing those on a console over the PC, they're much more popular and the communities are dramatically larger, even for CoD, CoD is dead on PC.

That bold part yeah that give you up Stormy.