PlayStation 3: The Final Hack?

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#1 SecretPolice
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Oh oh, so, 50 bones a year is too much for XBLG is it ? :P

Anyway, Thoughts ?

The Story.

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http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-ps3-the-final-hack

Sony is waking up to a new PlayStation 3 security nightmare after a day in which a brand new, PSN-enabled custom firmware was released for hacked consoles, swiftly followed up by publication of the console's LV0 decryption keys - which some say blows the system wide open.

We've been here before of course. Over two years ago, the first piracy-enabling firmware and USB dongle combo - PSJailbreak was released, which exploited a weakness in the PS3's USB protocols, allowing for the system software to be patched in order to run copied software running from hard disk. This was followed up some time later by the release of tools from hacker group fail0verflow, which allowed users to encrypt files for the system in the same way that Sony does, allowing for a new wave of piracy. Geohot's public release of the "metldr" root key also added to the challenges facing Sony, resulting in a messy legal battle.

The firm's response - firmware 3.60 - plugged many of the holes, neatly working around the entire root key problem, and even with the release of the new custom firmware, any console running system software 3.60 or higher is effectively locked out. Only hacked consoles, or those still running 3.55 or lower can run the new code unless expensive, difficult-to-install hardware downgrade devices are utilised on older hardware.

Despite the effectiveness of firmware 3.60, PS3 has still had to contend with piracy issues, notably the JB2/TrueBlue dongle, but this hack still locked consoles to 3.55 and stopped compromised consoles gaining access to PSN - until recently at least, where the "passphrase" security protocol protecting PSN was leaked, giving hacked consoles full access to the service.

The release of the new custom firmware - and the LV0 decryption keys in particular - poses serious issues. While Sony will almost certainly change the PSN passphrase once again in the upcoming 4.30 update, the reveal of the LV0 key basically means that any system update released by Sony going forward can be decrypted with little or no effort whatsoever. Options Sony has in battling this leak are limited - every PS3 out there needs to be able to decrypt any firmware download package in order for the console to be updated (a 2006 launch PS3 can still update directly to the latest software). The release of the LV0 key allows for that to be achieved on PC, with the CoreOS and XMB files then re-encrypted using the existing 3.55 keys in order to be run on hacked consoles.

So just how did LV0 come to be released at all? The original hackers who first found the master key - calling themselves "The Three Tuskateers" - apparently sat on its discovery for some time. However, the information leaked and ended up being the means by which a new Chinese hacking outfit - dubbed "BlueDiskCFW" planned to charge for and release new custom firmware updates. To stop these people profiteering from their work, the "Muskateers" released the LV0 key and within 24 hours, a free CFW update was released.

"You can be sure that if it wouldn't have been for this leak, this key would never have seen the light of day, only the fear of our work being used by others to make money out of it has forced us to release this now," a statement from the hacker group says.

We have approached Sony for comment.

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#2 Bruce_Benzing
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Does Sony even have an IT department?

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#3 Meeeper282
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because xbox doesn't get hacked also? every console get's hacked

moron

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#4 PinnacleGamingP
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lemmings man....if they had some games they wouldnt be so busy trying to sabotage the PSN
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#5 MonsieurX
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because xbox doesn't get hacked also? every console get's hacked

moron

Meeeper282
Why so angry? :(
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#6 Obviously_Right
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This happened to the Xbox years ago.

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#7 Meeeper282
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[QUOTE="Meeeper282"]

because xbox doesn't get hacked also? every console get's hacked

moron

MonsieurX

Why so angry? :(

because this thread make's no sense ;(

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#8 SecretPolice
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because xbox doesn't get hacked also? every console get's hacked

moron

Meeeper282

Good, good, let the bu.. eh you know the rest all too well. :lol

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#9 Meeeper282
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[QUOTE="Meeeper282"]

because xbox doesn't get hacked also? every console get's hacked

moron

SecretPolice

Good, good, let the bu.. eh you know the rest all too well. :lol

YOLO

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#10 kuraimen
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Lol even so piracy is much more rampant on 360. And it's $60, at least get how much they rip you off straight.
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#11 WilliamRLBaker
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Charlie sheen's when they first finish reading the op...

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#12 SecretPolice
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Charlie sheen's when they first finish reading the op...

WilliamRLBaker

:lol: Seems fairly accurate if we go by the herd of cattle that's checked in thus far. :P

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#13 CanYouDiglt
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After 77 million accounts compromised on PSN and I think it was 26 million on SOE I feel bad for anyone that still trusts Sony enough to give information such as credit card numbers. On my account I just have the bare bones info and I think I changed some and made up some info after the hacking.
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#15 DISSESHOWEDO
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SecretPolice too much butthurt is spreading from this moronic thread ! The X-box360 was hacked the day it was released (look at your beloved Flapo 4), atleast the PS3 kept for years !And i'm pretty sure Sony will fix that ! Go pay your 50 $ (still laughing at that you don't know how much your precious Live costs) and don't come near a DS3 or a PS3 !

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#16 locopatho
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So very very happy I haven't used PSN since Uncharted 2 and have no credit card info up there, it's a fvcking catastophe.
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#17 SecretPolice
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whats the TLDR version?sts106mat
The topic title should suffice quite nicely. :P

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#18 todd2r_Partdeux
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Ps3 got hacked again?!? Shocking.
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#19 MonsieurX
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Ps3 got hacked again?!? Shocking. todd2r_Partdeux

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#20 WilliamRLBaker
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whats the TLDR version?sts106mat
ps3 got hacked again but this time it was a encryption that got leaked that Sony will have a hard time bypassing
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#21 SecretPolice
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SecretPolice too much butthurt is spreading from this moronic thread ! The X-box360 was hacked the day it was released (look at your beloved Flapo 4), atleast the PS3 kept for years !And i'm pretty sure Sony will fix that ! Go pay your 50 $ (still laughing at that you don't know how much your precious Live costs) and don't come near a DS3 or a PS3 !

DISSESHOWEDO

G'head, tempt me some more cause teh SP's trigger finger is getting twitchy......

330.jpg:twisted:

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wasn't the "Sony is screwed and can't fix this" card played already and they made a workaround that patched the supposed "impossible to patch" hole?
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#23 PinnacleGamingP
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yea right, last time turned out to be a rumour, probably xbots again trying to play a game on sony since...well...you know.....no games..
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#24 WilliamRLBaker
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wasn't the "Sony is screwed and can't fix this" card played already and they made a workaround that patched the supposed "impossible to patch" hole?hiryu3
hmmm no don't think any one said impossible to patch and pretty damn sure they did the epitome of patch because the patch they put in place simply made it so people could just keep their firmware at a certain state and still play free games...then the psn passphrase was leaked and they were able to get online with those games all over again.... they can change the pass phrase but it seems this lvl0 encryption is something they cannot change...
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#26 SecretPolice
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wasn't the "Sony is screwed and can't fix this" card played already and they made a workaround that patched the supposed "impossible to patch" hole?hiryu3
I haven't seen anyone say it Can't be fixed but I have read that it'l be tough, tough, tough to fix not to mention this really shouldn't happen in the first place right ?

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#27 Eddie-Vedder
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Wow lems are slow, the 360 has been hacked since for at least 5 years now. So ignorant wow.

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#29 DISSESHOWEDO
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Opens's thread, reads a ton of nonsense, goes to download Flapo 4, just for the kicks !!!

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#30 DISSESHOWEDO
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[QUOTE="Eddie-Vedder"]

Wow lems are slow, the 360 has been hacked since for at least 5 years now. So ignorant wow.

sts106mat

i dont think anyone here is any where near as ignorant as you are.

It's a fact that after PC, X-box360 is the most pirated platform !

PS

Hmmm X-box and Windows both belong to MS, kinda makes you wonder !?!?

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#31 AmnesiaHaze
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being hacked didnt harm the wii or xbox so why should be a problem with ps3 , actually it should get respect for being able to keep up fighting it that long compared to the others

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#32 Nanomage
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[QUOTE="sts106mat"][QUOTE="Eddie-Vedder"]

Wow lems are slow, the 360 has been hacked since for at least 5 years now. So ignorant wow.

DISSESHOWEDO

i dont think anyone here is any where near as ignorant as you are.

It's a fact that after PC, X-box360 is the most pirated console !

Home console maybe,but overall the PSP had some games with over 5 million copies pirated alone,wich is already more than the huge majority of piracy numbers on the PC(mostly onlty the CoD games come to that level,and usually they don´t go over 5 millions),that alone says a lot.
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#34 Cheleman
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can someone give me a summary? i just woke up and my eyes are tired:P

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#35 Heil68
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Sweet!!! that means I can...oh, uh never mind.
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#36 DISSESHOWEDO
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[QUOTE="DISSESHOWEDO"]

[QUOTE="sts106mat"] i dont think anyone here is any where near as ignorant as you are.sts106mat

It's a fact that after PC, X-box360 is the most pirated console !

what does that have to do with what i said? why would i care if the xbox is more hacked than the ps3 or wii or even PC. i dont ever pirate anything.

Well, you called him ignorant ! All he was doing is stating the obvious !!!

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#37 DrKillByDeath84
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:lol: consoles

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#38 JohnnyCageMK
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:lol: PSN got hacked again.

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#39 Eddie-Vedder
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:lol: PSN got hacked again.

JohnnyCageMK

Get Owned :lol: 360 hacked again :lol:

Bu bu bu we pay teh moneiz :lol:

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[QUOTE="Meeeper282"]

because xbox doesn't get hacked also? every console get's hacked

moron

MonsieurX
Why so angry? :(

Hes been pissed since pokemon flopped hard.
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#41 ShyGai
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...What is going on in this thread...:| ?

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[QUOTE="JohnnyCageMK"]

:lol: PSN got hacked again.

Eddie-Vedder

Get Owned :lol: 360 hacked again :lol:

Bu bu bu we pay teh moneiz :lol:

Um, this is 2012, not 2010 . Maybe you should look at the dates before posting....

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#43 Bruce_Benzing
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...What is going on in this thread...:| ?

ShyGai

The usual, the Sony Defense Force trying to defend Sony's bumbling by pointing out events from the past that are irrealavent to now...

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#44 Peredith
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Damn, PSN has been hacked more times than Bill Gates bank account :lol:. Cows better go remove their credit card details from PSN, quick!

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#45 kuraimen
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[QUOTE="ShyGai"]

...What is going on in this thread...:| ?

Bruce_Benzing

The usual, the Sony Defense Force trying to defend Sony's bumbling by pointing out events from the past that are irrealavent to now...

Is that why lems keep pointing at PSN past hacks??
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#46 ShadowMoses900
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I think people are jumping the gun.....nothing suggests an actual intrusion or hack. Unless it becomes a bigger issue, I'm not worried.

The fanboys are so stupid, using this as a way for "ownage" is just sad and immature. If this makes them feel better about paying for XBL then they have some other issues they need to work out.

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wasn't the "Sony is screwed and can't fix this" card played already and they made a workaround that patched the supposed "impossible to patch" hole?hiryu3
Yes, they were able to patch the previous problems because their lv0 keys were still protected. Think of it like a ladder, you can encrypt lower steps using keys from a higher step. Since lv0 is their top step, and it was safe last time they were able to change all the lower steps and still allow all consoles to update using their top step (lv0) keys to decrypt the updates no matter what version OS the updating console was previously running. Now that this key has been leaked they don't have a higher step on the ladder that is common to all consoles to allow them to change the lower steps encryption keys. If they change the lv0 keys then consoles can't update to the new firmware anymore. I'm sure they will find a workaround somehow but it's not going to be as easy as the last one was to fix.
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#48 Eddie-Vedder
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[QUOTE="Eddie-Vedder"]

[QUOTE="JohnnyCageMK"]

:lol: PSN got hacked again.

Bruce_Benzing

Get Owned :lol: 360 hacked again :lol:

Bu bu bu we pay teh moneiz :lol:

Um, this is 2012, not 2010 . Maybe you should look at the dates before posting....

Erm this is about a system being hacked, dates are irrelevant, maybe you should know wtf you're arguing before throwing yourself into an argument.
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#49 Bruce_Benzing
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[QUOTE="Bruce_Benzing"]

[QUOTE="ShyGai"]

...What is going on in this thread...:| ?

kuraimen

The usual, the Sony Defense Force trying to defend Sony's bumbling by pointing out events from the past that are irrealavent to now...

Is that why lems keep pointing at PSN past hacks??

Today is 10/23/2012. You were one of the 1st to point out piracy on the Xbox as defense for Sony bumbling today. Thatk you for proving my point....

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#50 Bruce_Benzing
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[QUOTE="Bruce_Benzing"]

[QUOTE="Eddie-Vedder"]Get Owned :lol: 360 hacked again :lol:

Bu bu bu we pay teh moneiz :lol:

Eddie-Vedder

Um, this is 2012, not 2010 . Maybe you should look at the dates before posting....

Erm this is about a system being hacked, dates are irrelevant, maybe you should know wtf you're arguing before throwing yourself into an argument.

Maybe you should learn the difference between Network hacking and software piracy........