PlayStation 3/Xbox 360 Graphics Gap Will Start To Widen

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#1 redskins2156
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http://www.psxextreme.com/ps3-news/4526.html

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#2 LordDhampire
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Wow a playstation site......saying that the Ps3 is stronger than the 360 .....That is truely amazing
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#3 ujjval16
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You got this from a playstation website, ya not bias at all.

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#4 _rpg_FAN
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It might be strange,but i belive that xbox 360 have potential to make bether looking games

Why? because devs have easier time making stuff and such they can spend more time on polish

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#5 glez13
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I don't know what's worse:

Companies creating unrealistic hype.

People who believe a company's unrealistic hype.

People whining because they believed a company's unrealistic hype, and discovered it was all a lie.

People who bash others for not believing in a company's unrealistic hype.

Yes I know, all as pointless as the thread itself.

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#6 _rpg_FAN
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Imagine if epic spent 4 years making Gears of War 2 lol

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#7 LordDhampire
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Imagine if epic spent 4 years making Gears of War 2 lol

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Im sure it would look the same as gears 1, just like gears 2 did

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#8 Nova_Mongoose
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PS3 and Xbox 360 graphics gap will definitely continue to widen...

from the PC.

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#10 RobbieH1234
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"In direct comparison, we can't say the visuals in late-gen Xbox games looked that much different than Halo..."

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#11 Pariah_001
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It might be strange,but i belive that xbox 360 have potential to make bether looking games

Why? because devs have easier time making stuff and such they can spend more time on polish

_rpg_FAN
Making game development as idiot proof as possible does not equate to better games. In fact, it alludes to a tendency to cut corners. It's like how a person who's used NT all their life knows how Windows works better than a person who uses Vista or XP. That's why I have more confidence in devs who dedicate their time to the PS3 and understanding it.
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#12 cuddlesofwar
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Unless MS start putting money into there first party to develop new and exclusive game engines, then The PS3 will have better looking games.

Sony's first party s very strong, and Sony are always willing to invest in it. This allows games like Killzone 2.

MS have a weak first party on a much smaller budget, Rare are the only team to make good looking games.

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"In direct comparison, we can't say the visuals in late-gen Xbox games looked that much different than Halo..."

RobbieH1234
:lol: awesome quote
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#14 ImOldGreg
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(looks at gears 2)....yeaahhhh NO!!
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#15 cuddlesofwar
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[QUOTE="RobbieH1234"]

"In direct comparison, we can't say the visuals in late-gen Xbox games looked that much different than Halo..."

Dante2710
:lol: awesome quote

Eh, they use similar engines though. It's claimed that Halo 3 uses a brand, Xbox specific game engine, but it really just re uses old tech from the previous Halo engine.
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[QUOTE="Dante2710"][QUOTE="RobbieH1234"]

"In direct comparison, we can't say the visuals in late-gen Xbox games looked that much different than Halo..."

cuddlesofwar
:lol: awesome quote

Eh, they use similar engines though. It's claimed that Halo 3 uses a brand, Xbox specific game engine, but it really just re uses old tech from the previous Halo engine.

Upgraded version of halo engine plus the havok physics engine if im not mistaken
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[QUOTE="cuddlesofwar"][QUOTE="Dante2710"] :lol: awesome quoteDante2710
Eh, they use similar engines though. It's claimed that Halo 3 uses a brand, Xbox specific game engine, but it really just re uses old tech from the previous Halo engine.

Upgraded version of halo engine plus the havok physics engine if im not mistaken

You'd think MS would have funded a brand new engine, not one that reeks of last gen. MS need to up there game if they really want to see off Sony.
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#18 AppleBlade
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It started with Uncharted, then it continued with Metal Gear Solid IV, and it is about to happen again with Killzone 2 later this month. The gap is still small but it's definitely there and I do think it will widen (with Heavy Rain and Uncharted 2).
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Wow a playstation site......saying that the Ps3 is stronger than the 360 .....That is truely amazingLordDhampire
no way, seriously?because the success of PS3 doesnt directly effect them at all.
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#20 cuddlesofwar
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It started with Uncharted, then it continued with Metal Gear Solid IV, and it is about to happen again with Killzone 2 later this month. The gap is still small but it's definitely there and I do think it will widen (with Heavy Rain and Uncharted 2).AppleBlade
To be fair, Graphics comparisons are limited. I disagree with every game you just said. I think Gears 1 is better then MGS4, and Gears 2 is better then Uncharted. There is NO fact on which game looks better, saying otherwise is silly. It's all opinion. Kameo is the best looking game this gen, on PS3 or XBOX ... Imo.
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I'd say it widened in '07 with Uncharted. And evened out in 2008 with MGS4 vs Gears 2. I predict the biggest widening yet with Killzone 2, although it could even out again one day.
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#22 II_Seraphim_II
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Imagine if epic spent 4 years making Gears of War 2 lol

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Most of the time spent on KZ2 was for the game engine. How many years has Epic been making the UE engine? 10+ years?
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#23 yoyo462001
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[QUOTE="_rpg_FAN"]

Imagine if epic spent 4 years making Gears of War 2 lol

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Most of the time spent on KZ2 was for the game engine. How many years has Epic been making the UE engine? 10+ years?

well theyve been making it and updating whilst churning out good games which seems like a better strategy.
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#24 LordDhampire
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[QUOTE="II_Seraphim_II"][QUOTE="_rpg_FAN"]

Imagine if epic spent 4 years making Gears of War 2 lol

yoyo462001

Most of the time spent on KZ2 was for the game engine. How many years has Epic been making the UE engine? 10+ years?

well theyve been making it and updating whilst churning out good games which seems like a better strategy.

I hate the unreal engine it has unreal lighting effects, and alot of the games what use it look the same

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#25 II_Seraphim_II
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[QUOTE="II_Seraphim_II"][QUOTE="_rpg_FAN"]

Imagine if epic spent 4 years making Gears of War 2 lol

yoyo462001
Most of the time spent on KZ2 was for the game engine. How many years has Epic been making the UE engine? 10+ years?

well theyve been making it and updating whilst churning out good games which seems like a better strategy.

Yeah, but they had to start somewhere right? UT didnt pop out of thin air, they had to make the engine first and that took a lot of time and money. Same applies for KZ2. They had to make the engine, now that they have it, you can expect to see KZ3 with much better production values but in a shorter time.
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#26 deactivated-58b6232955e4a
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I dont believe you, I think the hardware itself would say otherwise
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#27 100000
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IT WILL WIDEN WHEN I SEE IT WIDEN. For the meantime this is nothing but silly speculation
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[QUOTE="Dante2710"][QUOTE="RobbieH1234"]

"In direct comparison, we can't say the visuals in late-gen Xbox games looked that much different than Halo..."

cuddlesofwar
:lol: awesome quote

Eh, they use similar engines though. It's claimed that Halo 3 uses a brand, Xbox specific game engine, but it really just re uses old tech from the previous Halo engine.

He's comparing how Halo 1 looked(a launch game), to late gen Xbox games, not just to Halo 2...He wants to show how much more the PS2 grew from launch to end compared to the xbox. Of course to say that Halo looked anywhere near as good as Ninja Gaiden and Escape from Butcher Bay and Chaos theory is a severe case of burying your head in the sand to keep your point working. Unreal Tournament was a pretty good looking launch title and compared alright to later titles(as well as halo did to later titles), and if you want to use crappy launch titles for the PS2, use games like Azurik as your reference for Xbox launch titles. This whole article was a comparison that was as stacked as it could be to try to support his point.
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#29 snakes3425
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Graphics don't always make the game
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#30 EndorphinMaster
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I don't know what's worse:

Companies creating unrealistic hype.

People who believe a company's unrealistic hype.

People whining because they believed a company's unrealistic hype, and discovered it was all a lie.

People who bash others for not believing in a company's unrealistic hype.

Yes I know, all as pointless as the thread itself.

glez13

lmao. nice

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#31 EndorphinMaster
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Imagine if epic spent 4 years making Gears of War 2 lol

_rpg_FAN

and a $50 million budget lol

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#32 EndorphinMaster
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[QUOTE="_rpg_FAN"]

Imagine if epic spent 4 years making Gears of War 2 lol

LordDhampire

Im sure it would look the same as gears 1, just like gears 2 did

keep telling yourself that, I'm sure it would make it true

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#33 EndorphinMaster
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[QUOTE="RobbieH1234"]

"In direct comparison, we can't say the visuals in late-gen Xbox games looked that much different than Halo..."

Dante2710

:lol: awesome quote

maybe TC wrote that article :lol:

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#34 st1ka
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[QUOTE="_rpg_FAN"]

Imagine if epic spent 4 years making Gears of War 2 lol

EndorphinMaster

and a $50 million budget lol

killzone 2 had a 50 million budget?
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#35 Hitman533
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This are the PS3 games that are graphically superior imo:

Uncharted

Uncharted 2

God of War 3

MGS4

Killzone 2

Gran Turismo 5

All this games are examples of what the PS3 is capable of, while the 360 only has Gears 2.

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#36 st1ka
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This are the PS3 games that are graphically superior imo:

Uncharted

Uncharted 2

God of War 3

MGS4

Killzone 2

Gran Turismo 5

All this games are examples of what the PS3 is capable of, while the 360 only has Gears 2.

Hitman533
it's just a shame that half of those games aren't even out
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#37 dpx_008
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No matter what everybody says or wheter you are a Sony or microsoft fanboy the ps3 IS more powerful than the xbox 360 go read up on it check out the specs of the consoles. Im not saying the gap between the ps3 and xbox is similar to the gap between the wii and both of em but the ps3 is the superior machine.
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#38 EndorphinMaster
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[QUOTE="EndorphinMaster"][QUOTE="_rpg_FAN"]

Imagine if epic spent 4 years making Gears of War 2 lol

st1ka

and a $50 million budget lol

killzone 2 had a 50 million budget?

never said killzone 2 ;)

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#39 st1ka
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[QUOTE="st1ka"][QUOTE="EndorphinMaster"]

and a $50 million budget lol

EndorphinMaster

killzone 2 had a 50 million budget?

never said killzone 2 ;)

so when you stated the 50 million budget were you thinking of any game in particular that uses that budget?

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#40 EndorphinMaster
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[QUOTE="EndorphinMaster"][QUOTE="st1ka"] killzone 2 had a 50 million budget?st1ka

never said killzone 2 ;)

so when you stated the 50 million budget were you thinking of any game in particular that uses that budget?

no, I was just imagining if Epic spent $50 mil making Gears 2

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#41 st1ka
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[QUOTE="st1ka"][QUOTE="EndorphinMaster"]

never said killzone 2 ;)

EndorphinMaster

so when you stated the 50 million budget were you thinking of any game in particular that uses that budget?

no, I was just imagining if Epic spent $50 mil making Gears 2

they'd have to sell more then 1 million just to break even :O
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#42 EndorphinMaster
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[QUOTE="EndorphinMaster"][QUOTE="st1ka"]

so when you stated the 50 million budget were you thinking of any game in particular that uses that budget?

st1ka

no, I was just imagining if Epic spent $50 mil making Gears 2

they'd have to sell more then 1 million just to break even :O

piece of cake :P. btw what's the real budget for Gears 2
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It started with Uncharted, then it continued with Metal Gear Solid IV, and it is about to happen again with Killzone 2 later this month. The gap is still small but it's definitely there and I do think it will widen (with Heavy Rain and Uncharted 2).AppleBlade
you do realize how long mgs4 and kz2 dev time is right compared to games like gears or war ? not sure about uncharted but mgs4 and kz2 have like 4-5 years dev time compared to 1-2 for gears o wait its not that its teh power of tha cell!!!!!!
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#44 Toriko42
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Honestly any site with the words PS or 360 or Nintendo in the URL should be banned from system wars
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lol @ all the comments nodding in approval on the site.
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#46 Martin_G_N
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[QUOTE="AppleBlade"]It started with Uncharted, then it continued with Metal Gear Solid IV, and it is about to happen again with Killzone 2 later this month. The gap is still small but it's definitely there and I do think it will widen (with Heavy Rain and Uncharted 2).adman66
you do realize how long mgs4 and kz2 dev time is right compared to games like gears or war ? not sure about uncharted but mgs4 and kz2 have like 4-5 years dev time compared to 1-2 for gears o wait its not that its teh power of tha cell!!!!!!

That's because the PS3 had to use a totally new engine built for the PS3 and not anything else. Gears 2 uses the UE3 engine that has been upgraded and developed over a period as long or longer as KZ2 dev time. It's a fact that the PS3 can't use the engines based on the X360 properly, because they are'nt utilizing the cell. Even PC's would struggle with the KZ2 engine.
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#47 foxhound_fox
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Indeed. We all know that it is possible to download more powerful hardware through the internet.
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#48 Charlie901
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Graphics don't always make the gamesnakes3425
I agree!!! But the 80gigs of Blue Ray Data storage space allow for some longer/lengthy games compared to having to be stuck with an 8gig DVD. An advantage that the PS3 has in development of EXCLUSIVES!
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[QUOTE="snakes3425"]Graphics don't always make the gameCharlie901
I agree!!! But the 80gigs of Blue Ray Data storage space allow for some longer/lengthy games compared to having to be stuck with an 8gig DVD. An advantage that the PS3 has in development of EXCLUSIVES!

Is muti-disk really that much of a hassle? I mean 3 mintues tops to switch the disks isnt much to ask

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#50 foxhound_fox
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I agree!!! But the 80gigs of Blue Ray Data storage space allow for some longer/lengthy games compared to having to be stuck with an 8gig DVD. An advantage that the PS3 has in development of EXCLUSIVES!Charlie901

An advantage that has yet to show itself in the games released so far for the system. Thanks to the PS3 drive's slow read speed, developers have had to use HDD installs to speed up load times of all that uncompressed content.