PlayStation 4 owners, PS4.5 releases, what do you do?

The XBOX 360 had the benefit of an external PSU, reducing its size significantly. It also had TDP issues commonly known as RRoD and the original release was extremely noisy. Like hair dryer on low type of noise.

The problem is that Sony and M$ are trying to focus on being aesthetically appealing. Form before function. If you're building a gaming PC, you buy a sizable ATX case and load it up with the best components. If you're building a console, you find the best looking mini-ITX case and see what fits.

Not even close to a 280X lol, a 280X is essentially a 7970 GHz Edition, it's twice as powerful as the PlayStation 4 GPU which is comparable to a 7850, that which is between an R7 260/265 for current GPU's. Also the GPU doesn't not have 8gb of GDDR5, that's a shared system pool of memory.

I was just pointing out that if this trend begins, you probably wouldn't be able to make fun of the the Xbox Ones weakness any more, because they'd follow the trend.

It is not a trend I'm looking forward to. I like one console to last the gen.

I'm not familiar with ATI Cards. Never owned one. I know that the system allows at least 5GB but the OS hogs up at least 2Gigs. Kinda seems like Sony didn't make the machine as gaming efficient as they could have. You can tell it's inefficient just by looking at it.

When you almost always post bias bashing with half truths, opinions and ignore the other aspects based on the facts that is what I have a problem with..... tormentos

But back to the topic, If they upgrade anything substantial hardware wise in the *new* PS4 they will alienate the other base eventually. If they say: double the cpu power and increase the gpu power by 30-50%. This will cause Devs to have to create game with assets to work on the slower model. which means that they will have to use lowest common denominator to base the limits. It limits what devs can design, and eventually devs will not take the time to cater to the older versions of the console. And focus on the system with more resources allowing more options.

Unless Sony dictates some kind of policy that they won't accept games unless it works on both platforms.

Stay on PS4 of course

I remember before and during the PS4 release all the fanboys claiming the power of the 8gb GDDR5 but didn't take in account the reserved amounts needed for the OS & features and the game cache, leaving less than 4gb of memory for the gpu to use. average usage is between 2-3gb for big games. Sony plans was to only have the PS4 to have 4gb instead of 8gb, a short time before the final design was set in stome for manufacturing Sony upped the amount to 8gb since prices on GDDR5 dropped and they realized that 4gb wouldn't have been enough with what they planned to do.

the only thing different that is in the PS4 gpu vs desktop 7850 gpu power in its 6 extra ACE units which allows the gpu to offload more gpu scheduling work to be handled on the gpu and not on the cpu. This will help remove cpu sided bottlenecking, freeing cpu resources to be put else where or back into the game/gpu. Problem is that having 8 units on a gpu that slow is that the gpu does not have the spare resources to actually make use of the the extra units. ACE count is proportional to the gpu's CU count(Stream processors). Two would have limited them, four would have been the sweet spot but AMD gpu designs have only done 2 or 8 nothing in between.

that will put devs in rock in a hard place with choices, and even still they wont put the same time and effort into both versions. If Sony dictates too forcefully devs will turn to other platforms. and with MS and X1 talking about doing same type of revisions of xbox gives them another option.

The biggest problem facing the PS4 is the storage issue. The issue where you can have an SSD in place of the 5400RPM 2.5" drive and only see only marginal differences in load times. Less than 20% in most cases. Obviously the file system caters to the stock drive, but SanDisk SSD vs. Stock Samsung 500GB 5400rpm 2.5" should be night and day.

What he said minus the touch sensitive reason. Also is backing up stuff on PS4 simple? I never tried it, I know this is a silly question...

Might as well upgrade your PC to Pascal or Polaris if PS4K will cost an additional $400.....or more. Not to mention PS4K will split the user-base for online games; unless Sony wants to give PS4K users an unfair advantage.

This whole thing is stupid. It's like less than half-assing another console release. They should just wait another year or two and release the PS5.

I don't own a PS4, but if they release an upgraded XB1, I'll definitely buy it. And probably trade in the old one.

Not sure where your seeing that..... Ive seen loading times cut in half from moving to SSD on PS4. It also could depend on the game.

Sony released an upgraded XBONE and called it a PS4.

@Johnny-n-Roger: Yet I still don't want it.

I have no plans for buying a PS4.5, if I buy a console this year, it'll be NX.

I bought the PS4 the day it released in the UK, and two years later I have just 5 games on it, and three of them are remasters (FFX, TLoU and Uncharted NDC). Not buying 4.5, and might not bother with future PS consoles either. They're just not worth it for me.

I bet you rage quit the Chocobo Race in FFX.

@Johnny-n-Roger: Not really, I did the Chocobo Race in the original PS2 version, and the PS4 version. Mildly annoying, but not as bad as many make it out to be.

If it turns out to make a difference to help games, I'll buy it,.

Who mentioned the Xbox?

This thread is about the PS4.

Makes me laugh, Cows bring the Xbox into threads more than the lems do.

Just proves the age old point.

'Playstation fanboys, they don't love there own console they just hate yours'

I'll sell my PS4 after I finish Persona 5. If I sell it after PS4.5 release the price will tank.

Then I'll just wait until there's very worthwhile exclusives (like Persona 5) on PS4.5 before I decide to buy it "again". If not, I'll just not get it.

Do they need a new GPU? i though they could probably get away with upgrading the Scaler hardware.

'because it's basically a big f*uck you to early adopters'

not really because these console have been on the market for nearly 3 years, if they had done this 12 months after they released the Ps4 then i would agree but 3 years on it doesn't really matter especially when only the newer games would have support for the improved graphics.

it's not different to upgrading your PC really.

Different markets, different standards and levels of acceptability, also I wouldn't call 2 years and 4 months "nearly 3 years".

I didn't see people whining this much about having to buy a Ram pak to play perfect dark on the N64.

the only Early adopters who will be p***ed off are the ones obsessed with graphics and resolutions.

The expansion pak for the Nintendo 64 was very inexpensive, it was also used in only 8 games, that of which I believe two actually required it.

Not exactly a comparable situation.

That's because they only had to buy a the Expansion Pak for a few bucks, not buy a whole new console.

@dynamitecop: If the PS4.5 releases this fall, then it will have been 3 yrs since the current gen launch.

Don't try to twist context, I know what the guy said and it wasn't that.

"these consolehave been on the market for nearly 3 years"

@dynamitecop: why don't you or why didn't you make a thread about or including the X1.5?

Once again your bias is easy to see.

Because that's not relevant, this seems to have real legs and appears to be something actually coming soon, what Microsoft may or may not do sounds like something for the next generation of hardware and has no relevance beyond a few lines of PR.

You're creating bias that doesn't exist because you're insecure and want to find a way to discredit something any way you feel you possibly can. You cows are of such low moral compass and insecure about things to such extremes, everything has to be some conspiracy to you, it has to be more than it is always, it can't just be a simple thread with simple questions..

As it is my PS4 sits and catches dust.

And aside from compatibility with the new VR nonsense, does it really have anything else going for it?

So no. Not interested. For me the PS4 is and always has been a waste of money. Until a quality game is released for it.

@casharmy: you know.... I don't know who you are, where you came from, I how come I never came across you on the forums too much until now but...........

I kinda like your style ;-)

I was going to log on & say pretty much everything you are saying but now I can kinda save my energy for something else.

Thanks :-)

Ps - we live in a world full of contradictions my friend. I think the console industry is actually lagging behind many others. You look at cars, tvs, phones, avrs, graphics card..... New ones come out every year and no one complains.

Now I'm not saying that a new console needs to come out EVERY year but what sony is trying to do here could work as long as it doesn't render the old ps4 useless. Meaning no matter what every future game would still work on the original ps4 but obviously with some drawbacks due to its hardware limitation.

Heck of even all this new ps4.5 does is allow for 4K Blu Ray playback then that would be awesome as that saves me money on having to buy a 4K Blu Ray player which currently is at $400.

@dynamitecop: how am I a cow when I said I would ditch Sony?

It's a hypothetical question so I don't think including a possibility (MS doing the same thing as Sony) is far fetched.

Thing is you'd rather stir up shit focussing on just Sony.

Your actions speak louder than your words.

When/if it comes time to create a topic like this for an Xbox it will be created, that time is not now, and you know it's not now for the obvious and clearly explained reasons.

You can keep trying to connect delusional dots to your hearts content, I don't give a shit, just provide something of value to the discussion or leave.

Keep my current system, and may buy the new one if the gap is that important!!!

Yep. Only reason why they'd need a new gpu is if they want the games to run better, and 4K support for demanding games.

But even without a new gpu there'll be some 4K games, games like Rayman legends could run at 4K.

@dynamitecop: you act like I'm the only one who has called you out.

You attack credibility in other threads.

What makes you immune?

I love how this is a mostly lemon Herm site but the PS four so strong that lens in harms have no idea what to do so they just great delusional topics and just really just don't know what to do......

THE SYSTEM WAR IS OVER

YOU KNOW WHO WON

@delta3074: what makes you think early adopters cared so much about graphics and resolution?

@casharmy: You have any idea how much a console would cost with a 4k capable gpu?

More games than you go AND I don't talk about games I haven't played, unlike YOU. You will watch a youtube video and read a review and think you know all about the game.

Suddenly, swapping in a new GPU, RAM, or SSD into your PC without a comprehensive forced upgrade sounds pretty good.

Given the PS4's meager selection of exclusives, I don't see why anybody would be happy about a 4.5 milkage model.

Well PC has never gotten a 10/10 exclusive or a recent GOTY exclusive from GS, let alone 2 top 5 GOATs.

Getting another PS4 sounds pretty good about now and waiting for Star Citizen to finally come up to build a new PC sounds feasible.

Excellent.

What the hell is your desperate rodent brain trying to suggest?

Dumb dumb a LEMMING made this thread about the PS4

'Playstation fanboys, they don't love there own console they just hate yours'

lol the irony in your post points out how blind and hypocritical you are dude. Replace playstation fanboys with lemmings and you have an accurate picture of how every xbox fanboy acts here on this board.

"Cows bring the Xbox into threads more than the lems do"

My post was a question to why a LEMMING as to why he's so worried about what PS fans do instead of xbox. I see you have no problem with that even tho it fits your argument for what you cliam "cows" do.

And you turn a blind eye to the xbox fan because you are just another dumb hypocrite xbot trying to say something to a supposed playstation fan so you can promote your desperate xbox fanboyism.

Spare me, I don't need a lecture from a hypocrite and a blind fanboy who only has something to say when a sony fan says something you don't like while ignoring dumb xbox fanboys who start the "hate" arguments 24/7.

FYI: I don't go around making constant threads about xbox like your lemming friends do. Take that quote you like to use for sony fans and put it up your rear end because that's where it came from.

yes, it is very simple, what you will need is a USB storage device, so a external HDD would be preferable

here are instruction

http://gadgets.ndtv.com/games/features/how-to-take-a-backup-of-your-ps4-games-and-data-686575

and this one from the official site

http://manuals.playstation.net/document/en/ps4/settings/backup.html

I not only own more PlayStation hardware than you, I undoubtedly own more games for each respective system than you.

By those standards alone I'd say I have more relevance to this discussion and a larger vested interest in the PlayStation brand by far than yourself, so anything else Mr. Wizard?