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#101 StealthKnife
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[QUOTE="StealthKnife"][QUOTE="yoyo462001"]it is new its bound to have a little, What? i thought PSN has zero lag at all, you can still lag loads on dedicated server.yoyo462001
I NEVER SAID THAT!! they both have lag, im saying PSN exclusives have less and it was new, that post was 2 weeks ago when the game was 3 days old

then why bump?

i actually updated some info, and i was bored
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#102 Verge_6
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[QUOTE="Verge_6"][QUOTE="StealthKnife"] thats acually not what i said but ok i said psn uses dedicated servers

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And so does Live. Where have you been for the last few years?

name a xbox exlusive that uses dedicated?? thats why hardly any xbl game has more then 16 players online, while most psn games have over 32

Oh good God, really? I mean...seriously? The reason why the PS3 has more 16+ player online games is NOT due to developer choice, but due to the fact that Live has NO (in your world, anyways) dedicated servers? You really don't know anything about online gaming. You don't even know of a single freaking game on Live that has a dedicated server (L4D and Frontline off the top of my head).

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#103 -Snooze-
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[QUOTE="-Snooze-"][QUOTE="StealthKnife"] thats acually not what i said but ok i said psn uses dedicated servers

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PSN uses dedicates servers ... so does Xbox live. What you mean to say is that top PS3 games implement dedicates servers, whereas top 360 games dont.

please name 1 xbl exclusive that has dedicated, they is none, MS fees are not going to "give better servers" its all p2p i believe they are some nonexclusive dedicated like the orange box, but i might be wrong, ive never played it.

Perfect Dark has both i believe, but that's not the point im making. Xbox Live, and PSN have nothing to dow ith online quality, the devs host the servers, not Xbox Live or PSN. Nothing hold Xbox Live back from having more dedicated servers. And why are we all of a sudden only talking about exclusive games that use them? Just to have the edge i imagine.

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#104 StealthKnife
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[QUOTE="StealthKnife"][QUOTE="Verge_6"] And so does Live. Where have you been for the last few years?Verge_6

name a xbox exlusive that uses dedicated?? thats why hardly any xbl game has more then 16 players online, while most psn games have over 32

Oh good God, really? I mean...seriously? The reason why the PS3 has more 16+ player online games is NOT due to developer choice, but due to the fact that Live has NO (in your world, anyways) dedicated servers? You really don't know anything about online gaming. You don't even know of a single freaking game on Live that has a dedicated server (L4D and MoH:A off the top of my head).

yes 2 nonexclusive games L4d!! thats what i was thinking of as the semi exclusive! thats the only game... Itr interesting how you knew that from the top of your head. Because i had to goggle it awhile back
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#105 usmcjdk6
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I'm tired of this.

These nubs don't understand network typology at all. Dedicated servers do not act well for anything outside of the game. Try to listen to someone's headset on a PSN game. You suffer massive packet loss about once ever 15 seconds. Xbox Live? Doesn't even cut out. And let's not even talk about the PSN game crashes. If one node starts fail in Halo 3, then that player either lags horribly and is booted. If just the tiniest bit of packet loss occurs on KZ2, everyone gets disconnected.

Learn network typology. Learn the pros and cons. By saying Dedicated is better than P2P, you are saying Xenos is better Cell, because they basically act in a similiar manner.

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#106 hopesfall2own
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Stealth why do you always bump your own topics weeks after the discussion has ended? good grief give it a rest :roll:
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#107 StealthKnife
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[QUOTE="StealthKnife"][QUOTE="-Snooze-"] PSN uses dedicates servers ... so does Xbox live. What you mean to say is that top PS3 games implement dedicates servers, whereas top 360 games dont.-Snooze-

please name 1 xbl exclusive that has dedicated, they is none, MS fees are not going to "give better servers" its all p2p i believe they are some nonexclusive dedicated like the orange box, but i might be wrong, ive never played it.

Perfect Dark has both i believe, but that's not the point im making. Xbox Live, and PSN have nothing to dow ith online quality, the devs host the servers, not Xbox Live or PSN. Nothing hold Xbox Live back from having more dedicated servers. And why are we all of a sudden only talking about exclusive games that use them? Just to have the edge i imagine.

no just because i hate the Xbox fanboys that say ""psn lags""
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#108 Verge_6
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[QUOTE="Verge_6"]

[QUOTE="StealthKnife"] name a xbox exlusive that uses dedicated?? thats why hardly any xbl game has more then 16 players online, while most psn games have over 32StealthKnife

Oh good God, really? I mean...seriously? The reason why the PS3 has more 16+ player online games is NOT due to developer choice, but due to the fact that Live has NO (in your world, anyways) dedicated servers? You really don't know anything about online gaming. You don't even know of a single freaking game on Live that has a dedicated server (L4D and MoH:A off the top of my head).

yes 2 nonexclusive games L4d!! thats what i was thinking of as the semi exclusive! thats the only game... Itr interesting how you knew that from the top of your head. Because i had to goggle it awhile back

Now it's "No EXCLUSIVE dedicated servers"? Right, stretching am confirmed, I am out. I'll read this thread for craps and giggles from now on.
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#109 StealthKnife
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Stealth why do you always bump your own topics weeks after the discussion has ended? good grief give it a rest :roll:hopesfall2own
the only other was ps3 and xbox 360 exclusives and that was because i continuously added as i found new ones. Then i bumped This was becuase i got into an argument on other a fourm, and i updated some info
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#110 usmcjdk6
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[QUOTE="-Snooze-"]

[QUOTE="StealthKnife"] please name 1 xbl exclusive that has dedicated, they is none, MS fees are not going to "give better servers" its all p2p i believe they are some nonexclusive dedicated like the orange box, but i might be wrong, ive never played it. StealthKnife

Perfect Dark has both i believe, but that's not the point im making. Xbox Live, and PSN have nothing to dow ith online quality, the devs host the servers, not Xbox Live or PSN. Nothing hold Xbox Live back from having more dedicated servers. And why are we all of a sudden only talking about exclusive games that use them? Just to have the edge i imagine.

no just because i hate the Xbox fanboys that say ""psn lags""

PSN doesn't lag. PSN completely FREEZES.
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#111 -Snooze-
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[QUOTE="-Snooze-"]

[QUOTE="StealthKnife"] please name 1 xbl exclusive that has dedicated, they is none, MS fees are not going to "give better servers" its all p2p i believe they are some nonexclusive dedicated like the orange box, but i might be wrong, ive never played it. StealthKnife

Perfect Dark has both i believe, but that's not the point im making. Xbox Live, and PSN have nothing to dow ith online quality, the devs host the servers, not Xbox Live or PSN. Nothing hold Xbox Live back from having more dedicated servers. And why are we all of a sudden only talking about exclusive games that use them? Just to have the edge i imagine.

no just because i hate the Xbox fanboys that say ""psn lags""

They're correct PSN does lag. End.
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#112 StealthKnife
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[QUOTE="StealthKnife"][QUOTE="Verge_6"] Oh good God, really? I mean...seriously? The reason why the PS3 has more 16+ player online games is NOT due to developer choice, but due to the fact that Live has NO (in your world, anyways) dedicated servers? You really don't know anything about online gaming. You don't even know of a single freaking game on Live that has a dedicated server (L4D and MoH:A off the top of my head).

Verge_6

yes 2 nonexclusive games L4d!! thats what i was thinking of as the semi exclusive! thats the only game... Itr interesting how you knew that from the top of your head. Because i had to google it awhile back

Now it's "No EXCLUSIVE dedicated servers"? Right, stretching am confirmed, I am out. I'll read this thread for craps and giggles from now on.

seriously do consider L4D a exclusive? If you do then that is probably the only one that has dedicated. im just pointing it out to fanboys. And that is th e only one i found on google. I thought it was orange box, but i guess it was L4D!

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#113 REforever101
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then why do most ps3 games noticeably lag more :|

i have both, and i can tell you, the lag is most certainly worse on ps3

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#114 Verge_6
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[QUOTE="-Snooze-"]

[QUOTE="StealthKnife"] please name 1 xbl exclusive that has dedicated, they is none, MS fees are not going to "give better servers" its all p2p i believe they are some nonexclusive dedicated like the orange box, but i might be wrong, ive never played it. StealthKnife

Perfect Dark has both i believe, but that's not the point im making. Xbox Live, and PSN have nothing to dow ith online quality, the devs host the servers, not Xbox Live or PSN. Nothing hold Xbox Live back from having more dedicated servers. And why are we all of a sudden only talking about exclusive games that use them? Just to have the edge i imagine.

no just because i hate the Xbox fanboys that say ""psn lags""

It does. Anyone with a basic understanding of networking knows that there is no such thing as 'zero lag'.
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#115 -Snooze-
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[QUOTE="Verge_6"][QUOTE="StealthKnife"] yes 2 nonexclusive games L4d!! thats what i was thinking of as the semi exclusive! thats the only game... Itr interesting how you knew that from the top of your head. Because i had to google it awhile back StealthKnife

Now it's "No EXCLUSIVE dedicated servers"? Right, stretching am confirmed, I am out. I'll read this thread for craps and giggles from now on.

seriously do consider L4D a exclusive? If you do then that is probably the only one that has dedicated. im just pointing it out to fanboys. And that is th e only one i found on google. I thought it was orange box, but i guess it was L4D!

L4D, frontlines, UT3 LOTR Conquest ... thats all i can think of.
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#116 -Snooze-
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Plus battlefield.

So that's like 6 for the xbox, and about 7 for the PS3.

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#117 MJPK
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Agreed.Gears 1 & 2 lag like crazy but Killzone 2 and R2 have no lag at all.

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#118 -Snooze-
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Agreed.Gears 1 & 2 lag like crazy but Killzone 2 and R2 have no lag at all.

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They have no lag at all? So what you're saying, si that there is not a single second of latency ... it seems Sony have done the impossible.
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#119 grr320
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lag=dependant upon host's upload bandwidth.

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#120 gamewhat
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PS3 has a lot of lag too. Just play the orange box and you will notice it just as much if not worse than the 360 version. I know I have both. I do admit I have never had any lag with the exclusives of the PS3, but then again I do not play online very much on the 360. Oh well here we go again with a pointless process of opinions.

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#121 Gxgear
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You get what you paid for (supposedly), and considering that PSN is FREE, it does a pretty damn fine job in providing a smooth online gaming experience.

Not like this discussion even matters since if you own the console(s) you pretty much stuck withPSN and/or XBL.

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#122 Abicus7
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Agreed.Gears 1 & 2 lag like crazy but Killzone 2 and R2 have no lag at all.

MJPK

I havent noticed much lag in KZ 2 or R2. a little bit in R2 but virtually none in KZ2.

I've only been dropped from 1 game of KZ 2 in about 30 hrs of play.. so that aint bad.

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#123 EZs
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I think it's not about which platform has more lags, lag is always there, whether it's noticeable or not.

If you're playing with someone within the same region, lag is very minimal.

Yes dedicated server is always great, no host advantage, everyone equals.

I think the main thing is what is the reason to justify paying for Pee-to-Peer connection?.... I don't know dude

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#124 StealthKnife
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PS3 has a lot of lag too. Just play the orange box and you will notice it just as much if not worse than the 360 version. I know I have both. I do admit I have never had any lag with the exclusives of the PS3, but then again I do not play online very much on the 360. Oh well here we go again with a pointless process of opinions.

gamewhat

lol, thats because EA made the orange box a peace of fish for the ps3 only. they have said "we are stoping updates for the ps3 version of the game" They pretty much are saying **** you ps3

lag=dependant upon host's upload bandwidth.

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not if you have dedicated servers. in p2p if the HOST lags they all lag.. Dedicated Means no Host, it goes through Sony's Servers which is why 60+ players is possible on the ps3 and not on the 360 (360 has very very few game that support dedicated servers, and i believe the only game is L4D, that it..

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#125 StealthKnife
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You get what you paid for (supposedly), and considering that PSN is FREE, it does a pretty damn fine job in providing a smooth online gaming experience.

Not like this discussion even matters since if you own the console(s) you pretty much stuck withPSN and/or XBL.

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true that