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#101 D00nut
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I find it highly telling that not a single post saying these suck has any kind of supporting details.

789shadow

I shall attempt!

The pig looks a horrible mixture of Charmader (skin), Cyndaquil (stance), and the head reminds me of Umbreon (lol).

The grass one looks like an elegant version of Treeko. Gecko to grass dragon?

The water one... I have no idea what that is... but it reminds me of a beaver... and there was one Pokemon in Diamond that looked like a challenged beaver that I always ran into... so I instantly hate the water beaver thing.

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#102 789shadow
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[QUOTE="789shadow"]

I find it highly telling that not a single post saying these suck has any kind of supporting details.

D00nut

I shall attempt!

The pig looks a horrible mixture of Charmader (skin), Cyndaquil (stance), and the head reminds me of Umbreon (lol).

The grass one looks like an elegant version of Treeko. Gecko to grass dragon?

The water one... I have no idea what that is... but it reminds me of a beaver... and there was one Pokemon in Diamond that looked like a challenged beaver that I always ran into... so I instantly hate the water beaver thing.

None of them actually bear any such resemblances. The pig has similar skin and stance? Stance? Seriously? It's a quadruped, sheesh. :P

The grass one is a snake.

The water one is a sea otter. And it looks nothing like Bidoof. :P

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#103 Chrome-
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Not sure about this one :(
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#104 phatkav
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Pretty great starters. The Grass one is up there with Bulbasaur as the best Grass starter. The fire one is already better than the previous Fire starters. The water one looks a lot like Piplup, but it still looks good.

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#105 TheShadowLord07
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[QUOTE="789shadow"]

I find it highly telling that not a single post saying these suck has any kind of supporting details.

Mario1331

they dont have any...

of course there is. http://www.serebii.net/index2.shtml

heres a sample of info

  • Their names are Tsutaja(grass snake pokemon), Pokabu(fire pig pokemon), and Mijumaru(sea otter pokemon).
  • According to CoroCoro, the new protagonists (shown in the scan above) are older than in the past.
  • The region is called the Isshu Region.

theres more info on the site.

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#106 Crazyguy105
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The only one I don't really like is the fire type.

I'll take the grass and water starter though. :P

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#107 789shadow
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[QUOTE="Mario1331"]

[QUOTE="789shadow"]

I find it highly telling that not a single post saying these suck has any kind of supporting details.

TheShadowLord07

they dont have any...

of course there is. http://www.serebii.net/index2.shtml

heres a sample of info

  • Their names are Tsutaja(grass snake pokemon), Pokabu(fire pig pokemon), and Mijumaru(sea otter pokemon).
  • According to CoroCoro, the new protagonists (shown in the scan above) are older than in the past.
  • The region is called the Isshu Region.

theres more info on the site.

What? I'm saying no one has given a reason for not liking these starters.

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#108 deactivated-5b31d3729c1fa
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[QUOTE="munchlax99"]

they look the same but with different colors :|

789shadow

Same as what?

the orange one looks like turtwig and the blue one looks like piplup. :P

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#109 789shadow
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[QUOTE="789shadow"]

[QUOTE="munchlax99"]

they look the same but with different colors :|

munchlax99

Same as what?

the orange one looks like turtwig and the blue one looks like piplup. :P

No, they don't. :P

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#110 deactivated-5b31d3729c1fa
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[QUOTE="munchlax99"]

789shadow

No, they don't. :P

yes they do

they both have two leave/ear things sticking up and have same body

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#111 spliffstar12
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i liked all the starters until now lol. the pig is fine and the grass pokemon is decent but wtf is the water pokemon supposed to be?
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#112 789shadow
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[QUOTE="789shadow"]

[QUOTE="munchlax99"]

munchlax99

No, they don't. :P

yes they do

they both have two leave/ear things sticking up and have same body

OMG, it has ears! EARS!

AND IT'S A QUADRUPED!

:roll:

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#113 789shadow
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i liked all the starters until now lol. the pig is fine and the grass pokemon is decent but wtf is the water pokemon supposed to be?spliffstar12

It's a sea otter.

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#114 Renegade_Fury
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WTF is this **** ? Even the fake images looked better.

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#115 789shadow
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WTF is this **** ? Even the fake images looked better.

Renegade_Fury

Reasons: they are needed.

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#116 Renegade_Fury
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[QUOTE="Renegade_Fury"]

WTF is this **** ? Even the fake images looked better.

789shadow

Reasons: they are needed.

Needed? Je ne comprend pas.
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#117 789shadow
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[QUOTE="789shadow"]

[QUOTE="Renegade_Fury"]

WTF is this **** ? Even the fake images looked better.

Renegade_Fury

Reasons: they are needed.

Needed? Je ne comprend pas.

If you think something sucks, there has to be a reason. No one in this topic has posted a reason why they think these Pokemon suck. It's getting to the point where I think it's just knee-jerk hate with no basis.

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#118 Skittles_McGee
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[QUOTE="789shadow"]

[QUOTE="Renegade_Fury"][QUOTE="789shadow"]

Reasons: they are needed.

Needed? Je ne comprend pas.

If you think something sucks, there has to be a reason. No one in this topic has posted a reason why they think these Pokemon suck. It's getting to the point where I think it's just knee-jerk hate with no basis.

What kind of reason can one give on judging how something looks? You either like it or you don't. You don't have to go into detail because largely, you can't.
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#119 789shadow
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[QUOTE="789shadow"]

[QUOTE="Renegade_Fury"] Needed? Je ne comprend pas. Skittles_McGee

If you think something sucks, there has to be a reason. No one in this topic has posted a reason why they think these Pokemon suck. It's getting to the point where I think it's just knee-jerk hate with no basis.

What kind of reason can one give on judging how something looks? You either like it or you don't. You don't have to go into detail because largely, you can't.

So you can't give supporting details? Please, don't make me laugh. Saying "they suck" is a statement. It must have reasons behind it.

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#120 Renegade_Fury
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[QUOTE="Renegade_Fury"][QUOTE="789shadow"]

Reasons: they are needed.

789shadow

Needed? Je ne comprend pas.

If you think something sucks, there has to be a reason. No one in this topic has posted a reason why they think these Pokemon suck. It's getting to the point where I think it's just knee-jerk hate with no basis.

Uh, what? That's two comments I don't understand what they have to do with my original post. I think they look even uglier than even gen 4's; nothing really to analyze.

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#121 DaViD_99
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I find it highly telling that not a single post saying these suck has any kind of supporting details.

789shadow
I don't like their noses.
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#122 789shadow
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[QUOTE="789shadow"]

I find it highly telling that not a single post saying these suck has any kind of supporting details.

DaViD_99

I don't like their noses.

:|

Okay.......why don't you?

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#123 Skittles_McGee
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[QUOTE="789shadow"]

[QUOTE="DaViD_99"][QUOTE="789shadow"]

I find it highly telling that not a single post saying these suck has any kind of supporting details.

I don't like their noses.

:|

Okay.......why don't you?

Must everything be boiled down to some detailed reasoning? Whatever happened to simple personal preference?
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#124 789shadow
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[QUOTE="789shadow"]

[QUOTE="DaViD_99"] I don't like their noses. Skittles_McGee

:|

Okay.......why don't you?

Must everything be boiled down to some detailed reasoning? Whatever happened to simple personal preference?

Because saying your reason for not liking it is "I just don't" is the equivalent of saying "because".

All statements have reasons behind them.

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#125 Skittles_McGee
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[QUOTE="789shadow"]

[QUOTE="Skittles_McGee"][QUOTE="789shadow"]

:|

Okay.......why don't you?

Must everything be boiled down to some detailed reasoning? Whatever happened to simple personal preference?

Because saying your reason for not liking it is "I just don't" is the equivalent of saying "because".

All statements have reasons behind them.

And when it comes to how something looks, its because it doesn't appeal to you. That's as detailed as it can get.
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#126 EVOLV3
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They look like those cheap knock offs you would find at a flea market.

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#127 Arbiterisl33t69
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Did anyone even bother to post the info that came with the scans and not just the starters? Words count too :| Starters look meh, though The region's name is "Isshu" (イッシュ) and is located very far away. The main characters are older than ever before; they are not children. From a separate source, the Pokemon's names might be Tsutaaja (ツタージャ), Pokabu (ポカブ), and Mijumaru (ミジュマル). "Tsuta" means "ivy." "Bu" relates to "pig." "Mijuku" means "immature" and "maru" means "round" or "ball." Again, these are not the confirmed names yet. The magazine scan below does not mention their names. According to serebii the protagonists are older this time, they look like teenagers to me instead of 10 year old kids, nice maybe it has some repercussion in the anime and Satoshi actually ages. Seems like the battles will have real time now or something like that, anyway the battle system is changing.
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#128 IWKYB
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[QUOTE="Skittles_McGee"][QUOTE="789shadow"]

If you think something sucks, there has to be a reason. No one in this topic has posted a reason why they think these Pokemon suck. It's getting to the point where I think it's just knee-jerk hate with no basis.

789shadow

What kind of reason can one give on judging how something looks? You either like it or you don't. You don't have to go into detail because largely, you can't.

So you can't give supporting details? Please, don't make me laugh. Saying "they suck" is a statement. It must have reasons behind it.

I think they suck too. Horrendous design. I feel like killing the pig and making bacon.
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#129 Mario1331
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yall can have your personal opinions but then again i understand what shadow is saying

if it was the other way around and i said " halo reach suxs" with no basis towards this whole board will go crazy and it just seems like hate which i believe it is.

reasons being is because many people on this forum is twice my age and i wouldnt expect them to be interested in pokemon, and also they want pokemon to die since the 2nd or 3rd generation.

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#130 metroidfood
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If you think something sucks, there has to be a reason. No one in this topic has posted a reason why they think these Pokemon suck. It's getting to the point where I think it's just knee-jerk hate with no basis.

789shadow

It's aesthetics. They look stupid. How exactly am I supposed to post a "reason" why one set of lines looks worse than the other?

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#131 shakmaster13
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This is even worse than all the crappy fake ones.

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#132 789shadow
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[QUOTE="789shadow"]

If you think something sucks, there has to be a reason. No one in this topic has posted a reason why they think these Pokemon suck. It's getting to the point where I think it's just knee-jerk hate with no basis.

metroidfood

It's aesthetics. They look stupid. How exactly am I supposed to post a "reason" why one set of lines looks worse than the other?

Well, those reasons do exist.

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#133 Arbiterisl33t69
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yall can have your personal opinions but then again i understand what shadow is saying

if it was the other way around and i said " halo reach suxs" with no basis towards this whole board will go crazy and it just seems like hate which i believe it is.

reasons being is because many people on this forum is twice my age and i wouldnt expect them to be interested in pokemon, and also they want pokemon to die since the 2nd or 3rd generation.

Mario1331
It really is obvious they are twice your age, no offense, but it's your grammar and spelling that makes it so obvious. And I still play Pokemon to this day but I have to admit, the best ones were the 1st and 2nd generation.
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#134 Lord_Omikron666
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I'm going to lol when these starters become better then 4th gen, a gen alot of people hate, yet has the best starters wih 3rd not too far behind I'd say.

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#135 Shadow2k6
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I'll wait till the final evolutions are released to really determine if these starters are bad or not but lol @ fire pig.

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#136 Devil-Itachi
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Disappointing, especially the water pokemon. I have always chosen the water pokemon for a starter but I may pass on that this time. Maybe its evolutions are better..
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#137 SaintBlaze
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A fire...pig? Really?

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#138 TheShadowLord07
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This is even worse than all the crappy fake ones.

shakmaster13

the chick in your avatar is hot . who is she and what song is it?

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#139 xXDante666Xx
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[QUOTE="Skittles_McGee"][QUOTE="789shadow"]

:|

Okay.......why don't you?

789shadow

Must everything be boiled down to some detailed reasoning? Whatever happened to simple personal preference?

Because saying your reason for not liking it is "I just don't" is the equivalent of saying "because".

All statements have reasons behind them.

They are not pokemon anymore. They are digimon. The reason is because they have 50 different knick knacks added onto their bodies. They look like an old woman that gives out terrible candy in the shape of peanuts. What was great about the originals is they where just normal creatures with maybe one stretch from the norm. But now it seems that they have to be some clown, shell, panda, that wears a fuzzy hooded jacket. A lizard thing that has a fan tail, a wizard cape and gold trim. Last but not least a pig with a bowlingball tail, weird stripes, and bunny ears.

They have become something that isn't simple and cute. They are becoming ugly and just blobs that have different colors. I prefer the scary creatures to stay in my Square and Atlus games.

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#140 fueled-system
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horrific none of them look good what sad times. lets hope the others are better

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#141 Jau11
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A green Cyndaquil, an orange pig with rabbit ears and a panda wearing a dress with genitalia on it. These must be three of the ugliest abominations I have ever seen in my life. The fact that you're stuck with an androgynous male or Amy Winehouse as playable characters just sucks.

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#142 Zerocrossings
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That pig is adorable. Other 2 is crap.

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#143 Kenny789
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Pig must evolve into Bacon, it must! Oh and I don't like the three of them but Grass one is ok I suppose. They just seem so unoriginal and boring.
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#144 Jfisch93
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and pokemon just keeps getting worse and worse...

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#145 bc1391
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Relevant with the general consensus in this thread

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#146 Waffle_Fish
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So we got some unidentifiable green thing for Grass A Piplup with a bashed in beak for Water And a fire pig... Seriously nintendo, you couldnt think of anything better? These are almost as bad a the 3rd gen starters
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#147 hoola
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They should do pokemon except with real animals. "A wild Giraffe appears!" "I choose you, Lizard."

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#148 Mario1331
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[QUOTE="Mario1331"]

yall can have your personal opinions but then again i understand what shadow is saying

if it was the other way around and i said " halo reach suxs" with no basis towards this whole board will go crazy and it just seems like hate which i believe it is.

reasons being is because many people on this forum is twice my age and i wouldnt expect them to be interested in pokemon, and also they want pokemon to die since the 2nd or 3rd generation.

Arbiterisl33t69

It really is obvious they are twice your age, no offense, but it's your grammar and spelling that makes it so obvious. And I still play Pokemon to this day but I have to admit, the best ones were the 1st and 2nd generation.

so the way i speak on a intenert forum dictatesd my age?that makes alot of sense

and no offense taking because thats very poor logic at best. im not going to say twice but maybe 10 years older my friends father didnt finish high school so how would you know how old he was if his "grammar"was worst then mine?

if your going to sound smart at least do it right my friend

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#149 ShuichiChamp24
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I like them a lot. Best i've seen since the second generation.

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#150 wiretoss
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I'm definitely digging the grass snake. It looks like he has wings though, I wonder if he'll turn into grass/flying! PS. Everyone seems really quick to judge and call something crap on here. haha