Poll: Console gamers why do you prefer console gaming over PC gaming?

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#351 HaloinventedFPS
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None of the reasons above apply to me (except for option #1, but I can easily work towards getting a PC soon if I wanted to). I just prefer console gaming because my friends play on it, and I like controllers with rumble. I know that you can plug in a controller on PC, but I don't want to play online alone. Plus gaming isn't the same without 80" HDTV's.

XVision84

eww 720p on a 80inch screen, at least when you plug your PC into it you actually get 1080p

not to mention 1600p>any 1080p size screen

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#352 loosingENDS
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[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

[QUOTE="SapSacPrime"] This comment backs up my view that pc gaming is more of a grown ups hobby, and likewise the consoles are clearly more targeted at kids (my kids love the 360 and play it more than me these days). This late in the gen this isn't a big surprise, once we get new (read: expensive) consoles we will see the attention shift back to a more mature audience.HaloinventedFPS

I will totally disagree there

The older i get the more i like the ease of use of consoles, because i have very little time that i want to spend gaming than tweaking settings and looking for the best hardware and game looks

Also Dark Souls is my best RPG and game in general for the last 10 years and that is not on PC, while Witcher 2, Skyrim are on xbox 360

Witcher 2 isnt on 360 yet and it will be a far worse version

Demons souls is much better, any real fan will admit this, the bad framerate kills Dark souls and enjoy your no mods and no bug fixes for skyrim on xbox 360

Witcher 2 already looks stunning on xbox 360, so will be same as on PC with a bit lower but still amazing graphics

Dark Souls has bad frame rate only in a few spots and hardly matters with such a game

Skyrim gets extra contant on xbox 30 days before any other system

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#353 tenaka2
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[QUOTE="HaloinventedFPS"]

[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

I will totally disagree there

The older i get the more i like the ease of use of consoles, because i have very little time that i want to spend gaming than tweaking settings and looking for the best hardware and game looks

Also Dark Souls is my best RPG and game in general for the last 10 years and that is not on PC, while Witcher 2, Skyrim are on xbox 360

loosingENDS

Witcher 2 isnt on 360 yet and it will be a far worse version

Demons souls is much better, any real fan will admit this, the bad framerate kills Dark souls and enjoy your no mods and no bug fixes for skyrim on xbox 360

Witcher 2 already looks stunning on xbox 360, so will be same as on PC with a bit lower but still amazing graphics

Dark Souls has bad frame rate only in a few spots and hardly matters with such a game

Skyrim gets extra contant on xbox 30 days before any other system

Wow 30 days you say!?! Amazing.

The Witcher 2 will look awful on the 360 compaired to the PC version, this is obvious to all.

Skyrim will will be better on the PC regardless of MS's dirtly DLC dealings :)

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#354 Bread_or_Decide
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[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"][QUOTE="GD1551"]

Or you could look at the min spec? Takes about 5 seconds.

mitu123

No I don't want to do that....

You do know everything in this world needs research right?

XBOX 360 games will play on the XBOX 360.

Doesn't get any easier than that.

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#355 loosingENDS
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[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

[QUOTE="HaloinventedFPS"]

Witcher 2 isnt on 360 yet and it will be a far worse version

Demons souls is much better, any real fan will admit this, the bad framerate kills Dark souls and enjoy your no mods and no bug fixes for skyrim on xbox 360

tenaka2

Witcher 2 already looks stunning on xbox 360, so will be same as on PC with a bit lower but still amazing graphics

Dark Souls has bad frame rate only in a few spots and hardly matters with such a game

Skyrim gets extra contant on xbox 30 days before any other system

Wow 30 days you say!?! Amazing.

The Witcher 2 will look awful on the 360 compaired to the PC version, this is obvious to all.

Skyrim will will be better on the PC regardless of MS's dirtly DLC dealings :)

Withcer 2 on the new 360 video looked stunning

How is stunning awfull exactly ?

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#356 tenaka2
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[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

Witcher 2 already looks stunning on xbox 360, so will be same as on PC with a bit lower but still amazing graphics

Dark Souls has bad frame rate only in a few spots and hardly matters with such a game

Skyrim gets extra contant on xbox 30 days before any other system

loosingENDS

Wow 30 days you say!?! Amazing.

The Witcher 2 will look awful on the 360 compaired to the PC version, this is obvious to all.

Skyrim will will be better on the PC regardless of MS's dirtly DLC dealings :)

Withcer 2 on the new 360 video looked stunning

How is stunning awfull exactly ?

Stunning is but your opinion, reality differs.

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#357 MK-Professor
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[QUOTE="MK-Professor"]

[QUOTE="ianuilliam"]No, that would not be an extension of my logic. I never said "a pc from 2006 can play any game better than consoles" was false, because, as you pointed out, SOME pcs from 2006 could. What I said was false was "even if you have a pc from 2006 you already know that it will play any game better than consoles." The second statement says a very different thing from the first.

In the first statement, the subject is "a pc," the verb is "can" and "play any pc better than consoles" defines what the pc can do. The fact that a specific pc isn't mentioned makes the statement true (or at least potentially true), because there are some pcs that would make it true.

In the second, which is what you said that I refuted, the subject is "You," the verb is "know" and "that it will play any game better than consoles" defines what you know, "even if you have a pc from 2006." The fact that a specific pc isn't mentioned makes the statement false, because you only know that IF you have a pc that specifically makes the defining statement true.

Do you see what is different about my argument and what you are saying my argument is? My statement, that your ORIGINAL statement is wrong, stands true. "Even if you have a pc from 2006 you already know that it will play any game better than consoles" is not a true statement.

ianuilliam

so your problem is use of the word "can"? are you serious:?

"Even if you have a pc from 2006 you already know that it will play any game better than consoles" is statement is 100% true because a pc from 2006 will play any game better than consoles and that is a fact right?

I think i know why you are doing all that, because it not the most pleasant thing in the world(from the console-gamer perspective) to see someone saying "even a pc from 2006 will play any game better than consoles" because this statement directly impaling that consoles are bad. so you are trying to be defending here. But the thing is that my statement is correct.

Not at all. Perhaps you should re-read my previous post.

maybe you are the one that have to re-read my posts.

all I was saying is that a pc from 2006 will play any game better than consoles, never said 'ANYPC' from 2006 will play games better than consoles.

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#358 donalbane
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It's been said a lot, but ease of use is really key for me. If I want to use my laptop, I have to plug in a mouse, make sure the settings are to my liking, install the thing, make sure my drivers are current, worry about copy protection, and I can't resell it. Plus, since every PC game uses different controls, I have to spend about 10 minutes making little changes so that it feels natural. It's very, very time consuming, and while the performance is nice, things are just so much less complicated on a console. And this is coming from somebody who loves to build computers (or at least I used to prior to this gen.)
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#359 ianuilliam
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[QUOTE="ianuilliam"]

[QUOTE="MK-Professor"]

so your problem is use of the word "can"? are you serious:?

"Even if you have a pc from 2006 you already know that it will play any game better than consoles" is statement is 100% true because a pc from 2006 will play any game better than consoles and that is a fact right?

I think i know why you are doing all that, because it not the most pleasant thing in the world(from the console-gamer perspective) to see someone saying "even a pc from 2006 will play any game better than consoles" because this statement directly impaling that consoles are bad. so you are trying to be defending here. But the thing is that my statement is correct.

MK-Professor

Not at all. Perhaps you should re-read my previous post.

maybe you are the one that have to re-read my posts.

all I was saying is that a pc from 2006 will play any game better than consoles, never said 'ANYPC' from 2006 will play games better than consoles.

I didn't ever say that "a pc from 2006 will play games better than consoles" couldn't be true. What I said wasn't true was "even if you have a pc from 2006 you already know that it will play any game better than consoles." The second statement, while it includes the first, does not mean the same thing.

As long as there is at least one pc that can fulfill the criteria of being from 2006 and playing any game better than consoles, the first statement can be considered true. That is correct, but I never refuted it. Someone could try to say, "I have a pc from 2006 that won't," and they can summarily be dismissed by saying "I said A pc, not EVERY pc."

The other statement, your original one I disagreed with, says "even if you have a pc from 2006, you know ... " The subject here is "you," which refers to ANYONE who has a pc from 2006. Since many people that have pcs from 2006 do not, in fact, "know that it can play any game better than consoles," because their pcs can't actually do that, the statement is false. Had you been more specific and said "even if you have a pc from 2006 with a 8800gtx or better and at least a 2 GHz dual core processor, you know ..." then it might have been true (I say might, because I don't know for sure... that would meet the min sys reqs for Crysis 2, but I don't know that barely meeting the min reqs would enable you to run the pc version at greater settings/performance than the console version... either way, it's irrelevant to my point at hand).

Anyway, this is getting too circular. Either you don't understand what I'm saying, or you refuse to acknowledge it, so there's no point in me saying the same thing over and over.

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#360 streetridaz
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[QUOTE="streetridaz"] So you haven't ever joined a pc server and played a pc game is what you're telling us. Pc server [QUOTE="lowe0"] It's the community as a whole, not a single server.lowe0

Thats how we look at you guys. I don't ever talk to people on pc servers that arent' my friends because either people don't talk on open voip servers on computer or the join a private chat using a third party software. When ever i join a console game server i'm bombarded with 12 year olds calling me the n word f word or just simply cheesing like crazy and spawn killing me. Pc servers don't allow this you'll be kicked and banned within 5 minutes. you're outlook on the pc community is based on SW and that's not okay because 80% of us are constantly defending ourselves from your community downplaying our platform or choice or making outlandish claims. Only probably 10% of the gaming community as a whole participates in open online forums.

I have. Swing and a miss, champ.

Yeah Okay.............

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#361 Chris_Williams
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because i do, although i'm enjoying witcher 2 on my new laptop and i'm considering getting skyrim for pc, though i might just end up getting it on the ps3, who knows

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#362 GeoffZak
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None of those, I simply prefer consoles exclusives. I enjoy playing games like Persona 4, White Knight Chronicles, Tales of Vesperia, MLB the Show, Metal Gear Solid, Star Ocean, LittleBigPlanet, Naruto UNS, Soul Calibur and Catherine more than anything I can get on PC.

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#363 Hoznary
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Buy console, buy game then sit and play. For pc :S i want to run things on max but i cant so i start to feel down! Plus on console everyone's equal! on pc you can have better mouses and keyboards but i dont think that you can get better stuff on console.
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#364 04dcarraher
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because i do, although i'm enjoying witcher 2 on my new laptop and i'm considering getting skyrim for pc, though i might just end up getting it on the ps3, who knows

Chris_Williams
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#365 yang_fox
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Consoles are way more easy to play around with! It's just plug & play! I used to be a pc gamer, back in high school,nowadays I don't have time to figured out if my pc is updated with the latest hardware and software.

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#366 Chris_Williams
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[QUOTE="Chris_Williams"]

because i do, although i'm enjoying witcher 2 on my new laptop and i'm considering getting skyrim for pc, though i might just end up getting it on the ps3, who knows

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But the mods man the mods !

yeah but i'm kind of new to the pc front and haven't really look into the modding scene
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#367 lowe0
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[QUOTE="lowe0"]

[QUOTE="streetridaz"] Thats how we look at you guys. I don't ever talk to people on pc servers that arent' my friends because either people don't talk on open voip servers on computer or the join a private chat using a third party software. When ever i join a console game server i'm bombarded with 12 year olds calling me the n word f word or just simply cheesing like crazy and spawn killing me. Pc servers don't allow this you'll be kicked and banned within 5 minutes. you're outlook on the pc community is based on SW and that's not okay because 80% of us are constantly defending ourselves from your community downplaying our platform or choice or making outlandish claims. Only probably 10% of the gaming community as a whole participates in open online forums.streetridaz

I have. Swing and a miss, champ.

Yeah Okay.............

If you're accusing me of something, then man up and say it.
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#368 MK-Professor
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[QUOTE="MK-Professor"]

[QUOTE="ianuilliam"]Not at all. Perhaps you should re-read my previous post.

ianuilliam

maybe you are the one that have to re-read my posts.

all I was saying is that a pc from 2006 will play any game better than consoles, never said 'ANYPC' from 2006 will play games better than consoles.

I didn't ever say that "a pc from 2006 will play games better than consoles" couldn't be true. What I said wasn't true was "even if you have a pc from 2006 you already know that it will play any game better than consoles." The second statement, while it includes the first, does not mean the same thing.

As long as there is at least one pc that can fulfill the criteria of being from 2006 and playing any game better than consoles, the first statement can be considered true. That is correct, but I never refuted it. Someone could try to say, "I have a pc from 2006 that won't," and they can summarily be dismissed by saying "I said A pc, not EVERY pc."

The other statement, your original one I disagreed with, says "even if you have a pc from 2006, you know ... " The subject here is "you," which refers to ANYONE who has a pc from 2006. Since many people that have pcs from 2006 do not, in fact, "know that it can play any game better than consoles," because their pcs can't actually do that, the statement is false. Had you been more specific and said "even if you have a pc from 2006 with a 8800gtx or better and at least a 2 GHz dual core processor, you know ..." then it might have been true (I say might, because I don't know for sure... that would meet the min sys reqs for Crysis 2, but I don't know that barely meeting the min reqs would enable you to run the pc version at greater settings/performance than the console version... either way, it's irrelevant to my point at hand).

Anyway, this is getting too circular. Either you don't understand what I'm saying, or you refuse to acknowledge it, so there's no point in me saying the same thing over and over.

I have prove to you countless times that a pc from 2006 will play any game better than consoles(higher graphics settings, bigger rez, more fps, etc), but you refuse to accept this, by doing damage control, and play with use of the words, like "can", "know" , "you", etc

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#369 nukefarmer
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Cost, All my friends are on consoles. Once I pay for the next semster, ill probally end up buying a ps3 or pc.

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#370 spaceninja818
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I like both, but sometimes I just want to turn on the system, grab the controller and be able to play the game.

Obviously the PC is superior when it comes to gaming, but you may have to go through some annoyances before you are able to play. For example: I wanted to play the Witcher 2 the other day, but steam had to redownload the game 3 times because it was missing some files.

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#371 GunSmith1_basic
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i often wonder because if I just added the cost I spend on my console and added that to what I would have spend already on my computer I could have been a pc gamer. I really hate mouse and keyboard controls though.
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#372 Zensword
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cheap, prefer controller than K/M, games
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#373 04dcarraher
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cheap, prefer controller than K/M, gamesZensword
huh? its so hypocritical that consolers say these things when YOU CAN USE ANY CONTROLLER YOU WANT TO PLAY A GAME. Also nice that since 2008 the 360 controller has been native in PC multiplatform based games....

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#374 04dcarraher
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[QUOTE="04dcarraher"][QUOTE="Chris_Williams"]

because i do, although i'm enjoying witcher 2 on my new laptop and i'm considering getting skyrim for pc, though i might just end up getting it on the ps3, who knows

Chris_Williams
But the mods man the mods !

yeah but i'm kind of new to the pc front and haven't really look into the modding scene

Its not hard, its just copy and paste and enabling the mod through a manager and your done in most mods. The Nexus is the main place to get all oblivion and fallout , and soon skyrim mods
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#375 RoslindaleOne
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"I got tired of hardware/driver compatability issues with some PC games" That's the main problem for me. Some games work flawless and others took time searching through google on "how to get X game to work."
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#376 Zensword
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[QUOTE="Zensword"]cheap, prefer controller than K/M, games04dcarraher

huh? its so hypocritical that consolers say these things when YOU CAN USE ANY CONTROLLER YOU WANT TO PLAY A GAME. Also nice that since 2008 the 360 controller has been native in PC multiplatform based games....

Oh, I forgot I can use controller. I now want to game on PC (graphics, framerate, mods) but it costs a ot of $$$ and time
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#377 ianuilliam
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[QUOTE="ianuilliam"]

[QUOTE="MK-Professor"]

maybe you are the one that have to re-read my posts.

all I was saying is that a pc from 2006 will play any game better than consoles, never said 'ANYPC' from 2006 will play games better than consoles.

MK-Professor

I didn't ever say that "a pc from 2006 will play games better than consoles" couldn't be true. What I said wasn't true was "even if you have a pc from 2006 you already know that it will play any game better than consoles." The second statement, while it includes the first, does not mean the same thing.

As long as there is at least one pc that can fulfill the criteria of being from 2006 and playing any game better than consoles, the first statement can be considered true. That is correct, but I never refuted it. Someone could try to say, "I have a pc from 2006 that won't," and they can summarily be dismissed by saying "I said A pc, not EVERY pc."

The other statement, your original one I disagreed with, says "even if you have a pc from 2006, you know ... " The subject here is "you," which refers to ANYONE who has a pc from 2006. Since many people that have pcs from 2006 do not, in fact, "know that it can play any game better than consoles," because their pcs can't actually do that, the statement is false. Had you been more specific and said "even if you have a pc from 2006 with a 8800gtx or better and at least a 2 GHz dual core processor, you know ..." then it might have been true (I say might, because I don't know for sure... that would meet the min sys reqs for Crysis 2, but I don't know that barely meeting the min reqs would enable you to run the pc version at greater settings/performance than the console version... either way, it's irrelevant to my point at hand).

Anyway, this is getting too circular. Either you don't understand what I'm saying, or you refuse to acknowledge it, so there's no point in me saying the same thing over and over.

I have prove to you countless times that a pc from 2006 will play any game better than consoles(higher graphics settings, bigger rez, more fps, etc), but you refuse to accept this, by doing damage control, and play with use of the words, like "can", "know" , "you", etc

You have proven to me countless times that you don't (or refuse to) grasp what I'm saying. All this back and forth is because you think I'm trying to say that a pc from 2006 can't still play games at higher settings. I've never once said that. The statement that you made that I refuted said something different. Either you aren't proficient enough in the English language to understand that what you initially said has a different meaning from what you said later, or you are trying to change what you said to something I never disagreed with. I make no presumptions about which of those it is.

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#378 Elitro
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Because casual and exclusives.

That is all.

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#379 04dcarraher
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[QUOTE="04dcarraher"]

[QUOTE="Zensword"]cheap, prefer controller than K/M, gamesZensword

huh? its so hypocritical that consolers say these things when YOU CAN USE ANY CONTROLLER YOU WANT TO PLAY A GAME. Also nice that since 2008 the 360 controller has been native in PC multiplatform based games....

Oh, I forgot I can use controller. I now want to game on PC (graphics, framerate, mods) but it costs a ot of $$$ and time

no more money and time you have spent on a console.... If you already have a copy of windows you can build a Pc thats 6x stronger then current consoles for around $550 and cost to performance is alot better then current consoles
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#380 fadersdream
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What a patronizing poll. How many of the hermits voted on the intelligence "option"?

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#381 Dynafrom
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[QUOTE="Zensword"][QUOTE="04dcarraher"] huh? its so hypocritical that consolers say these things when YOU CAN USE ANY CONTROLLER YOU WANT TO PLAY A GAME. Also nice that since 2008 the 360 controller has been native in PC multiplatform based games....

04dcarraher

Oh, I forgot I can use controller. I now want to game on PC (graphics, framerate, mods) but it costs a ot of $$$ and time

no more money and time you have spent on a console.... If you already have a copy of windows you can build a Pc thats 6x stronger then current consoles for around $550 and cost to performance is alot better then current consoles

And not everyone has $550 laying around, especially since the GS crowd for the most part is made of 14 year olds.

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#382 Monkey_N1nga
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If i did have the money, i would not spend it on a pc since i already have a console so i would keep saving my money, ease of use, controller, dont care for graphics, not worth the money at all IMO
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#383 MK-Professor
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[QUOTE="MK-Professor"]

[QUOTE="ianuilliam"]I didn't ever say that "a pc from 2006 will play games better than consoles" couldn't be true. What I said wasn't true was "even if you have a pc from 2006 you already know that it will play any game better than consoles." The second statement, while it includes the first, does not mean the same thing.

As long as there is at least one pc that can fulfill the criteria of being from 2006 and playing any game better than consoles, the first statement can be considered true. That is correct, but I never refuted it. Someone could try to say, "I have a pc from 2006 that won't," and they can summarily be dismissed by saying "I said A pc, not EVERY pc."

The other statement, your original one I disagreed with, says "even if you have a pc from 2006, you know ... " The subject here is "you," which refers to ANYONE who has a pc from 2006. Since many people that have pcs from 2006 do not, in fact, "know that it can play any game better than consoles," because their pcs can't actually do that, the statement is false. Had you been more specific and said "even if you have a pc from 2006 with a 8800gtx or better and at least a 2 GHz dual core processor, you know ..." then it might have been true (I say might, because I don't know for sure... that would meet the min sys reqs for Crysis 2, but I don't know that barely meeting the min reqs would enable you to run the pc version at greater settings/performance than the console version... either way, it's irrelevant to my point at hand).

Anyway, this is getting too circular. Either you don't understand what I'm saying, or you refuse to acknowledge it, so there's no point in me saying the same thing over and over.

ianuilliam

I have prove to you countless times that a pc from 2006 will play any game better than consoles(higher graphics settings, bigger rez, more fps, etc), but you refuse to accept this, by doing damage control, and play with use of the words, like "can", "know" , "you", etc

You have proven to me countless times that you don't (or refuse to) grasp what I'm saying. All this back and forth is because you think I'm trying to say that a pc from 2006 can't still play games at higher settings. I've never once said that. The statement that you made that I refuted said something different. Either you aren't proficient enough in the English language to understand that what you initially said has a different meaning from what you said later, or you are trying to change what you said to something I never disagreed with. I make no presumptions about which of those it is.

what you are trying to do is to hide the truth. I will say it again this statement "a pc from 2006 can play any game better than consoles" is 100% true.

Since you mentioned crysis2 many times in your posts, here are some results with the 8800(1680x1050, avg 43fps, with the same low settings like consoles), ps3(1024x720, avg 25-30fps)and 360(1152x720, avg 25-30fps) pretty bad for consoles if you ask me.

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#384 ianuilliam
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[QUOTE="Zensword"][QUOTE="04dcarraher"] huh? its so hypocritical that consolers say these things when YOU CAN USE ANY CONTROLLER YOU WANT TO PLAY A GAME. Also nice that since 2008 the 360 controller has been native in PC multiplatform based games....

04dcarraher

Oh, I forgot I can use controller. I now want to game on PC (graphics, framerate, mods) but it costs a ot of $$$ and time

no more money and time you have spent on a console.... If you already have a copy of windows you can build a Pc thats 6x stronger then current consoles for around $550 and cost to performance is alot better then current consoles

I suppose that depends on whether the copy of Windows you purchased included a single use license, or multi-use license, assuming you meant legally. But regardless, why is it whenever someone says "PC is more expensive than consoles" the answer is "No it isn't, you can build a decent pc for $500-600!" Did you guys not get the memo that consoles are down to about $200-250? Pointing out that a pc that costs 2-3 times more than a console is more powerful doesn't actually refute that pcs cost more. Instead of showing me a pc that is more powerful, but costs 3 times as much, how about you show me a 2005-6 pc build that still plays all new games at or above console level that cost only $400-600 in 2005 or 2006? Or show me a 2011 pc that plays games as well or better than consoles, but costs no more than $200-250?

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#385 xYamatox
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Because I find a console controller much more fun to play than KB&M.

And yes, I know you can use a controller on PC, but not every game on PC is built with controller in mind.

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#386 cain006
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I suppose that depends on whether the copy of Windows you purchased included a single use license, or multi-use license, assuming you meant legally. But regardless, why is it whenever someone says "PC is more expensive than consoles" the answer is "No it isn't, you can build a decent pc for $500-600!" Did you guys not get the memo that consoles are down to about $200-250? Pointing out that a pc that costs 2-3 times more than a console is more powerful doesn't actually refute that pcs cost more. Instead of showing me a pc that is more powerful, but costs 3 times as much, how about you show me a 2005-6 pc build that still plays all new games at or above console level that cost only $400-600 in 2005 or 2006? Or show me a 2011 pc that plays games as well or better than consoles, but costs no more than $200-250?

ianuilliam

You can't because a PC is more expensive. But what we can bring up is that games are way cheaper on pc. For example, every single GTA game is $17 right now. There's more good free games being made, and games get discounted quicker on pc. Doesn't change that a PC is a much more expensive initial investment however.

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#387 locopatho
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[QUOTE="locopatho"]] How can you say that when even a just copy of Windows costs a bit more then a console? It's 142 euros for a Wii + game, 149 euros just for Windows so you can run the game, never mind the actual hardware or a game to play on it. Where's the logic, mang? Sources(GS won't let me link): http://www.play.com/Games/Wii/4-/20060264/Nintendo-Wii-Console-Including-Mario-Kart-Steering-Wheel-Remote-Plus-Nunchuck-White/Product.html?searchtype=allproducts&searchsource=0&searchstring=wii+console&urlrefer=search http://www.peats.com/cgi-bin/catalog.cgi?view_subcat=1&id=5857&sid=14&cid=5854jedikevin2

Fairly Easy.. Release price of 360, 300-400 dollars, if you play online with it 6 years at a average of 45 dollars a year (270 dollars). Ps3 Release price 600 dollars (spoke on this a year and a half ago in the May edition of System wars 2010. Depending on games there can be huge variants in price scaling (example fifa 12 console to pc, D2d pre-release sales such as 40 dollars for Bf3). There is also accessories that were heavily pushed for some such as buying multiple controllers for the wii(one of its premisses on release was splitscreen play, on 360 batteries and or battery packs, kinect, etc etc) Simply put, its easy to see there is huge variants throughout this generation in price scaling and base on the money people could spend on a console, they could easily get a pc.

You are trying to narrow your viewpoint but I was speaking generation wise and timeframe throughout. Again, ALOT of variation base on when someone built a PC, what they were going for, deals, price of consoles at said time etc etc.

Well I was just looking at the cheapest prices today, right it now it is factually cheaper on a console. Talk of narrow viewpoints but you the one bringing up 600 euro PS3s from years ago :?

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#388 almasdeathchild
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games

they are easy

no virus issues

i dont need to spend a load of cash just to run a game at it's peak

i enjoy the online better

i dont like playing shooters with a mouse and keyboard

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#389 BlancoBX
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If I had the money for a top of the line PC I would be all over PC gaming, but as it stands times are tough so Ive been sticking to consoles. I do have the orange box on my macbook tho, but thats about the best game I can get to run on it

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#390 cain006
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If I had the money for a top of the line PC I would be all over PC gaming, but as it stands times are tough so Ive been sticking to consoles. I do have the orange box on my macbook tho, but thats about the best game I can get to run on it

BlancoBX

You complain about price but have a mac?

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Better games, and the simplicity of it all. Buy a game, put it into your console and play.
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#392 ianuilliam
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[QUOTE="ianuilliam"]

[QUOTE="MK-Professor"]

I have prove to you countless times that a pc from 2006 will play any game better than consoles(higher graphics settings, bigger rez, more fps, etc), but you refuse to accept this, by doing damage control, and play with use of the words, like "can", "know" , "you", etc

MK-Professor

You have proven to me countless times that you don't (or refuse to) grasp what I'm saying. All this back and forth is because you think I'm trying to say that a pc from 2006 can't still play games at higher settings. I've never once said that. The statement that you made that I refuted said something different. Either you aren't proficient enough in the English language to understand that what you initially said has a different meaning from what you said later, or you are trying to change what you said to something I never disagreed with. I make no presumptions about which of those it is.

what you are trying to do is to hide the truth. I will say it again this statement "a pc from 2006 can play any game better than consoles" is 100% true.

Since you mentioned crysis2 many times in your posts, here are some results with the 8800(1680x1050, avg 43fps, with the same low settings like consoles), ps3(1024x720, avg 25-30fps)and 360(1152x720, avg 25-30fps) pretty bad for consoles if you ask me.

Yep. I'll say again I never argued with that statement. "A pc from 2006 can play any game better than consoles" =/= "even if you have a pc from 2006, you already know it can play any game better than consoles." You keep repeating the first one, and trying to say I'm arguing with it. The statement you said initially, that I refuted is the second one. As I've explained over and over, those two statements do not have the same meaning.

I have no problem accepting that someone who paid 2-3 times more for a pc in 06 can run games better than someone who bought a console at the same time. "A pc from 2006 plays games better than consoles." Is there a pc from 2006 that plays games better than consoles? Yes. Therefore the statement is true. We're in complete agreement about that one, and have been the whole time.

"Even if you have a pc from 2006, you already know it can play any game better than consoles." THAT is what you said was not true. Because it isn't. The subject, "you" is referring to anyone who "has a pc from 2006." In order for the statement to be true, the subject (anyone who has a pc from 2006) has to "know that it plays any game better than consoles." Since not all pcs from 2006 can play any game better than consoles, the statement is false. Obviously not everyone with a pc from 2006 can't know that it plays any game better than consoles if every pc from 2006 actually can. Now. Shall we go around the circle one more time?

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#393 BlancoBX
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[QUOTE="BlancoBX"]

If I had the money for a top of the line PC I would be all over PC gaming, but as it stands times are tough so Ive been sticking to consoles. I do have the orange box on my macbook tho, but thats about the best game I can get to run on it

cain006

You complain about price but have a mac?

haha true..but it was a graduation present about 4 years ago

edit: and at this point I dont have the money to buy an entire new computer just to play games on when this one still works perfectly fine for everything besides gaming. But the way that I look at it im going to have a ton of good games to play when I can finally pony up the money to get a gaming pc

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#394 streetridaz
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[QUOTE="streetridaz"]

[QUOTE="lowe0"] I have. Swing and a miss, champ.

lowe0

Yeah Okay.............

If you're accusing me of something, then man up and say it.

:) you're much too intimidating. :roll:

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#395 ShadowMoses900
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I like PS3 gaming and other ocnsole gameing more because I don't like M/K, don't like sitting infront of a moniter that close for too long, can't do local multiplayer, can't play from my couch, PC doesn't have any exclusives that I know about or care for, don't want to pay a bunch of money for upgrades every week, and I don't think it's worth the money to upgrade games for just a slightly better performance.

The only things I like about PC gamingare mods and Steam, and that's about it.

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[QUOTE="04dcarraher"][QUOTE="Zensword"]Oh, I forgot I can use controller. I now want to game on PC (graphics, framerate, mods) but it costs a ot of $$$ and time ianuilliam

no more money and time you have spent on a console.... If you already have a copy of windows you can build a Pc thats 6x stronger then current consoles for around $550 and cost to performance is alot better then current consoles

I suppose that depends on whether the copy of Windows you purchased included a single use license, or multi-use license, assuming you meant legally. But regardless, why is it whenever someone says "PC is more expensive than consoles" the answer is "No it isn't, you can build a decent pc for $500-600!" Did you guys not get the memo that consoles are down to about $200-250? Pointing out that a pc that costs 2-3 times more than a console is more powerful doesn't actually refute that pcs cost more. Instead of showing me a pc that is more powerful, but costs 3 times as much, how about you show me a 2005-6 pc build that still plays all new games at or above console level that cost only $400-600 in 2005 or 2006? Or show me a 2011 pc that plays games as well or better than consoles, but costs no more than $200-250?

How about those people who bought the consoles when they were launched? Spending $450-$700 or more when supplies where low? (Ive seen some spending 1K on a 360 on ebay....) Also every multiplat game on my Pc from 2005 upgraded to Geforce 7600GT in 2006 out did the 360 on resolution, graphics and abilities and it was well below $600. It had a Sempron 3300+, 1.5 gb DDR, and Geforce 7600GT and it out did the 360 in multiplats until I upgraded to play Crysis on high settings and future games also that PC from 2005/2006 played CoD4 1280x1024, high settings while the console version played at 1024x600 with a slew of setting low/medium and high.. And the new in 2007 system only cost $700 and it was 3x stronger then the consoles...and in 2007 and the PS3 was still $500... That system is still going strong to this day playing multiplats better then either console. And show a 2011 Pc thats $200-$250? thats grasping straws isnt it? A Pc isnt just for one purpose and it is not using 6 year old tech either.... You can however buy older parts or used parts and be able to put together a PC thats better then consoles.A friend of mine a few months ago bought my old cpu and motherboard and 8800GT for $100 and all he had to do was buy memory and a hard drive and he spent only $200 and totally upgraded his Pc beyond what the 360 or PS3 can do... and he is a major 360 consoler.
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#397 SpideR_CentS
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Local multiplayer has always been something consoles excel at over pc imo, the last local mp i had on PC was with heroes of might and magic 3 and that was basically a few dudes playing musical chairs around a desk. That should have been in the poll i think.eNT1TY
Too funny, the last time I played with multiplepeople on the same computer it was that game and playing musical chairs haha. And that does matter. I like being able to play a fighting / party / sports game with people from time to time. Or even a *gasp* co-op campaign when games have it.

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#398 hkymike
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I've been gaming on consoles my whole life and that will never change, Can't stand gaming on PC's
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#399 MK-Professor
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[QUOTE="MK-Professor"]

[QUOTE="ianuilliam"]You have proven to me countless times that you don't (or refuse to) grasp what I'm saying. All this back and forth is because you think I'm trying to say that a pc from 2006 can't still play games at higher settings. I've never once said that. The statement that you made that I refuted said something different. Either you aren't proficient enough in the English language to understand that what you initially said has a different meaning from what you said later, or you are trying to change what you said to something I never disagreed with. I make no presumptions about which of those it is.

ianuilliam

what you are trying to do is to hide the truth. I will say it again this statement "a pc from 2006 can play any game better than consoles" is 100% true.

Since you mentioned crysis2 many times in your posts, here are some results with the 8800(1680x1050, avg 43fps, with the same low settings like consoles), ps3(1024x720, avg 25-30fps)and 360(1152x720, avg 25-30fps) pretty bad for consoles if you ask me.

Yep. I'll say again I never argued with that statement. "A pc from 2006 can play any game better than consoles" =/= "even if you have a pc from 2006, you already know it can play any game better than consoles." You keep repeating the first one, and trying to say I'm arguing with it. The statement you said initially, that I refuted is the second one. As I've explained over and over, those two statements do not have the same meaning.

I have no problem accepting that someone who paid 2-3 times more for a pc in 06 can run games better than someone who bought a console at the same time. "A pc from 2006 plays games better than consoles." Is there a pc from 2006 that plays games better than consoles? Yes. Therefore the statement is true. We're in complete agreement about that one, and have been the whole time.

"Even if you have a pc from 2006, you already know it can play any game better than consoles." THAT is what you said was not true. Because it isn't. The subject, "you" is referring to anyone who "has a pc from 2006." In order for the statement to be true, the subject (anyone who has a pc from 2006) has to "know that it plays any game better than consoles." Since not all pcs from 2006 can play any game better than consoles, the statement is false. Obviously not everyone with a pc from 2006 can't know that it plays any game better than consoles if every pc from 2006 actually can. Now. Shall we go around the circle one more time?

this statement

"A pc from 2006 can play any game better than consoles"

and this statement

"even if you have a pc from 2006, you already know it can play any game better than consoles."

have basically the same meaning, that a pc (not every pc) will play any game better than consoles

also i never said "anyone who has a pc from 2006"

Anyway, it is quite obvious that you are trying to cover the truth with all this arguments about statements, grammar etc, because you don't like that an ancient pc can play games better than consoles.

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#400 lowe0
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[QUOTE="lowe0"][QUOTE="streetridaz"] Yeah Okay.............

streetridaz

If you're accusing me of something, then man up and say it.

:) you're much too intimidating. :roll:

Quit trying to be funny. Either come out and say it, or retract your comment.