[QUOTE="hy4k"]sony copied the wiimote and now they're copying forza hilariousAdoringFan_
And your beloved M$ didn't copy anything eh? :roll:
not as much as sony no-one copies as much as sonyThis topic is locked from further discussion.
[QUOTE="whatisazerg"]
[QUOTE="PCGamer248"]
Actually that's opposite from the truth. Heck, even Miyomoto played with the PSP-Go and no one has made a thread that the PSP is better than the DS. I don't see the hipocrisy here.
PCGamer248
Miyamoto as I stated b4, wasn't standing over the PSP Go with a notepad and pen, taking notes. There would be nothing to talk about if Polyphony just stopped by to have a look at their competition..... that just makes sense that you'd be curious about your competition.....
.... LOL.... but they WERE TAKING NOTES..... TAKING NOTES..... which essentially says... Polyphony obviously thinks that Forza3 is superior in some way, and they acknowledge it by TAKING NOTES! LOL at all you fanboys trying to spin this..... You all work for Sony PR, or something?
That's not the point. Who cares if he had a notepad with him, he was over there playing the console. Do you think that he's stoo stupid to remember what he saw without having to write it down? I'm glad Polyphony is taking notes. They are the smarter developers. Good developers take notes and ideas from everyone, even their competition. And the point isn't rather Polyphony is taking notes or not, the point is that other developers have done that in the past, it doesn't matter if they had a note pad with them, their brain is the note.
It seems like you're too simple minded to understand what i'm trying to say. Who cares if they took note, you claim ownage. I'm saying it's not ownage, it's smart. And who cares if Polyphony thinks Forza 3 is superior to GT5? That's a good trait, to never underestimate the competition. I hope for your sake, Forza 3 developers take notes too, or their product will end up being the inferior one.
LOL, "he"?Did you even click on the link? Or were you too excited to defend your purchase?
Oh and "their brain is the note" LOL.... so now Polyphony shares a single brain?
And I'm simple minded?
[QUOTE="AdoringFan_"][QUOTE="hy4k"]sony copied the wiimote and now they're copying forza hilarioushy4k
And your beloved M$ didn't copy anything eh? :roll:
not as much as sony no-one copies as much as sonyI wonder where the L1/R1 button came from. M$ sure though of it first :roll:
The mind of a fanboy
not as much as sony no-one copies as much as sony[QUOTE="hy4k"][QUOTE="AdoringFan_"]
And your beloved M$ didn't copy anything eh? :roll:
AdoringFan_
I wonder where the L1/R1 button came from. M$ sure though of it first :roll:
The mind of a fanboy
Did Sony? Nope... just another something that Sony took from Nintendo... not saying MS is innocent... but Sony is by far the biggest thief.... "Ball on a stick" anyone?
[QUOTE="AdoringFan_"]
not as much as sony no-one copies as much as sonyhy4k
I wonder where the L1/R1 button came from. M$ sure though of it first :roll:
The mind of a fanboy
Did Sony? Nope... just another something that Sony took from Nintendo... not saying MS is innocent... but Sony is by far the biggest thief.... "Ball on a stick" anyone?
ps1 was the first fully marketed console to have 4 total shoulder buttons. ps1 was first to have dual analogs. ps2 was first to use dvd format...the list goes on and on. i will admit that sony copies but MS does just as much. if i give anyone credit, its nintendo for doing their own thing.[QUOTE="whatisazerg"][QUOTE="AdoringFan_"]
I wonder where the L1/R1 button came from. M$ sure though of it first :roll:
The mind of a fanboy
mclovin401
Did Sony? Nope... just another something that Sony took from Nintendo... not saying MS is innocent... but Sony is by far the biggest thief.... "Ball on a stick" anyone?
ps1 was the first fully marketed console to have 4 total shoulder buttons. ps1 was first to have dual analogs. ps2 was first to use dvd format...the list goes on and on. i will admit that sony copies but MS does just as much. if i give anyone credit, its nintendo for doing their own thing.He said L1/R1.... nice try though.
Yeah... MS & Sony both copy others..... but Sony does it more, don't agree... I don't care, I know the truth.
LOL yeah
Wow, a studio checking out what the competition is doing. Never heard of that one before :roll:bdum_pshhh
[QUOTE="hy4k"][QUOTE="AdoringFan_"]
And your beloved M$ didn't copy anything eh? :roll:
not as much as sony no-one copies as much as sonyI wonder where the L1/R1 button came from. M$ sure though of it first :roll:
The mind of a fanboy
actually the 1st company thought of it it was nintendo back in the 80's fllowed by sega and sony made the huge step forward to master this feature and to make it the standard joystique design for all the other joystique's that came afterwards ps ( i had all the past consoles and i made some researchs on the internet on that just subject just read historyI don't see the 'pwnage' of a company playing the competitor's game. Its called doing research to improve their own work?
Guess some people don't know who Sun Tzu is. Know thyself and know thy enemy, fight a hundred battles and have a hundred victories. :roll:
I'm sure the people at turn 10 must've played gran turismo some point in their lives as well.
Well, GT PSP has a car trading feature. I doubt GT5 will have a car customization setup as in-depth as FM3's though. But there is NASCAR and Rally. I'll be getting both most likely too. I'm eager to discover all of the features and mechanics for both games.Forza 3 will be better than GT5 unless GT5 has some sort of car painting feature and an auction house Those 2 features alone will make me shelve GT5 months before I put Forza away, even though I will own both the day they come out.
Catpee
So...studying the direct competition is ownage now? Geez, next giving compliments will be sign a defeat.
[QUOTE="AdoringFan_"]
[QUOTE="hy4k"] not as much as sony no-one copies as much as sonywhatisazerg
I wonder where the L1/R1 button came from. M$ sure though of it first :roll:
The mind of a fanboy
Did Sony? Nope... just another something that Sony took from Nintendo... not saying MS is innocent... but Sony is by far the biggest thief.... "Ball on a stick" anyone?
well the fact that microsofts xbox was in direct compitition with ps2/3 maybe encouraged them to add them. but hey i hate these "so and so did this first" arguments they are pointless and go no where. so i have no idea why i replied.... lol
Um no. You clearly stated GT5 is inferior. If X is more than Y then Y is less than X. Don't deny that. It's simple logic.[QUOTE="Alpha-Male22"]
[QUOTE="whatisazerg"]
Because you're reading into it, and getting out of it what you want.... which is to try and label me a fanboy.
whatisazerg
You stated Forza is better than GT5. Therefore, GT5 is less than Forza, so yes, you did say GT5 is "less good" than Forza.
Also, you are trying to start a fanboy war over something small. Devs look into the competition to see how they can counter, improve, etc. It's nothing new, and it's certainly not PWNAGE! Polyphony knows Turn 10 has made a good game, they are interested to see how they can 1 Up it.
I posed a question..... look for "?" That's usually an easy way for you to determine whether it's a question or a statement...
Followed by: Kinda looks like it, in other words: It kinda looks like Forza is better. You stated Forza is better, even if slightly. And are you talking to yourself? Do you usually ask questions and answer them yourself with your own answer? If you are asking us whether Forza is better, then ask it. Don't make a question and then answer it because then you can turn that question into a statement. So yes, you were making a statement, not asking a question. You answered your own question. From your very own mouth, you said it: Forza is looking slightly better than GT5. Not to mention the fact that if you DID mean it as a question, you would have clearly indicated that to chathuranga instead of telling him he was "reading into it" :roll:
nice try
[QUOTE="Darth_DuMas"]
The usual SW hypocrisy is here alive and well, as usual if the shoe was on the other foot, all the cows would show no mercy with their thread and it would be a legit one at that (somehow).
I can see it now, "Forza devs taking lessons in how to make a real driving game", my God they recently tore Forza 3 a new one, because it wasn't 1080p native (apparently that made it an awful, awful game)
So regardless of the whether this thread is fanboyish or not, I really and truly hope the cows don't come in here acting like they're above it for the love of God.
whatisazerg
EXACTLY! Cows like to dish it out.... but they can't take it. Everyone knows if it was the other way around, Forza fans would have to hear about it for all of eternity. Evenif Forza3 scores higher than GT5, the Cows would fall back on "that's only because Forza devs copied Polyphony Dev's".... and of course that wouldn't make any sense, since if they copied it then their scoresshould be the same.... but that wouldn't stop a heard of Sony Fanboys running to the thread to agree with their beloved TC.
The fact that you all swarmed to this thread is proof enough that you're fanboys.... if you weren't thenwhat I saidwouldn't have bothered you so much.
Perhaps if you actually dished something out, there would be something cows wouldnt be able to take. Nevermind the fact that you are being very vague and generalizing all defenders of PS3/GT5. And no, not "everyone knows if it was the other way around, Forza fans would have to hear about it for all of eternity" You have no evidence of that, just an assumption that hypocrisy is a characteristic inherited somehow by people who own a PS3
[QUOTE="AdoringFan_"]
[QUOTE="hy4k"] not as much as sony no-one copies as much as sonywhatisazerg
I wonder where the L1/R1 button came from. M$ sure though of it first :roll:
The mind of a fanboy
Did Sony? Nope... just another something that Sony took from Nintendo... not saying MS is innocent... but Sony is by far the biggest thief.... "Ball on a stick" anyone?
So now, your trying to say that there is something unethical about the sharing of ideas in terms of product design? Lets not get into the ethics of business, it's sad enough that people are fighting over who stole a petty controller scheme.[QUOTE="whatisazerg"]
[QUOTE="PCGamer248"]
You said Forza 3>>>>>GT5 in your first post.
Anyways, I shouldn't argue with a fanboy, no reason.
PCGamer248
So I'm a fanboy because my opinion differs from yours? Ahh.. nvm... I'll take your advice and not argue with you.
No, you're a fanboy because you made this fanboyish thread.
thishttp://kotaku.com/5282349/gran-turismo-makers-try-forza-3
LOL.... I'm not really into racing sims anymore.... but this is pretty funny.I wonder what sort of Damage Control we'll see from a certain fanboy camp.
Forza 3 >>>> GT5?..... kinda looks like it.
whatisazerg
You can't be serious. You don't think developers always take ideas from other developers? It happens in all forms of businesses...
I thought this was common sense. It's done everyone, in professional sports...everywhere.
How is it ownage? They were just checking out the bad competition.really? this news is old?
this is the 1st i heard of it....
regardless its still funny and a ton of ownage.
whatisazerg
GT5> Forza 3
:lol:
[QUOTE="PCGamer248"]
You said Forza 3>>>>>GT5 in your first post.
Anyways, I shouldn't argue with a fanboy, no reason.
whatisazerg
So I'm a fanboy because my opinion differs from yours? Ahh.. nvm... I'll take your advice and not argue with you.
Nope you are a fanboy because you take the article to mean ownage when in fact its checking out the competition.How is it ownage? They were just checking out the bad competition.[QUOTE="whatisazerg"]
really? this news is old?
this is the 1st i heard of it....
regardless its still funny and a ton of ownage.
jakehouston88
GT5> Forza 3
:lol:
First of all, why you do think that you or your comment is in any way funny? Secondly, if you haven't played either game, how the hell do you know which one is better?
[QUOTE="daveg1"]lol the cows are the most defensive group on system wars.. its clear they were there to take notes and copy or try out do what they could in their game,if i was somone really waiting for this game id be worried about a longer delay while they do this stuff..ChuteboxIt's common practice in all kinds of business. It's nothing to claim ownage or get defensive about. If anything, lems and Turn 10 can feel good about their product, but that's it. i couldnt give a monkeys about all this "ownage" nonsense.. nothing to get defensive about? lol have you read the thread...
you can imagine the board meeting "what do you mean turn 10 have completed a racing sim? that's impossible,quick send someone over to verify this, also take notes, maybe, with a little knowledge, we will be able to complete our racing sim, before hell freezes over" lolLets give Poly a break..
They just wanted to see what a near finished build to a complete game is. There have been rumors of that at the studio and I think they just wanted confirmation that it's not just some urban legend.....:P
masiisam
[QUOTE="Chutebox"][QUOTE="daveg1"]lol the cows are the most defensive group on system wars.. its clear they were there to take notes and copy or try out do what they could in their game,if i was somone really waiting for this game id be worried about a longer delay while they do this stuff..daveg1It's common practice in all kinds of business. It's nothing to claim ownage or get defensive about. If anything, lems and Turn 10 can feel good about their product, but that's it. i couldnt give a monkeys about all this "ownage" nonsense.. nothing to get defensive about? lol have you read the thread... Oh I know, just because people do get offensive doesn't mean it's something to actually get defensive about. This whole thread is silly. If TC would have just posted the info instead of being fanboyish about it, well, it would have turned into this anyways lol.
i just love Japanese devs. gt5 checking out forza 3, shigeru miyamoto checking out the psp-go, and last year Hideo Kojima checking out the dudes from Infinity Ward. i mean, i'd love to go to Tokyo Game Show and find out that devs there check out each other's projects and so, unlike here in North America where devs only know how to exaggerate their franchises to death (and yes, i'm kinda looking at you ubisoft, activision, and ea sports). that last sentence from Turn 10 was really unnecessary, or should i say impolite. they welcomed them to their booth, answered their questions, and when they left Turn 10 goes boasting about the gt5 devs' visit. seriously. i know it was an interview for Kotaku, but im just ashamed of those devs. i dont remember Kazunori dissing the Forza series directly (and i mean explicitly direct). good thing japanese people are polite and dont bad-mouth other people's projects like that. pffttt....
i just love Japanese devs. gt5 checking out forza 3, shigeru miyamoto checking out the psp-go, and last year Hideo Kojima checking out the dudes from Infinity Ward. i mean, i'd love to go to Tokyo Game Show and find out that devs there check out each other's projects and so, unlike here in North America where devs only know how to exaggerate their franchises to death (and yes, i'm kinda looking at you ubisoft, activision, and ea sports). that last sentence from Turn 10 was really unnecessary, or should i say impolite. they welcomed them to their booth, answered their questions, and when they left Turn 10 goes boasting about the gt5 devs' visit. seriously. i know it was an interview for Kotaku, but im just ashamed of those devs. i dont remember Kazunori dissing the Forza series directly (and i mean explicitly direct). good thing japanese people are polite and dont bad-mouth other people's projects like that. pffttt....
roddollente
Lol, I guess you haven't read about what Tomonobi Itagaki had to say about the developers behind Bayonetta.
Notice how almost everyone who is upset by this thread has an Avatar or Sig relating to the PS3, or 1 of it's franchises in some way.
Geee.....what a coincidence. :lol:
I don't even care about Forza 3 or GT5... I think racing sims are boring....regardless of how well they are done.
But that doesn't change facts.... if you gotta take notes on your competition, obviously you realize they have something that you don't. THERE's NO WAY AROUND IT!
By all means though.... keep lying to yourselves... close your eyes, plug your ears... and scream "NO" over and over.
I especially love the argument... "Everyone does it... it's okay".... and then a game comes out that's a blatant rip off of God of War... and then its all.... "OMG, no originality, they had to copy GoW.... ahhhh.... LOL" fanboys are so funny.
Notice how almost everyone who is upset by this thread has an Avatar or Sig relating to the PS3, or 1 of it's franchises in some way.
Geee.....what a coincidence. :lol:
I don't even care about Forza 3 or GT5... I think racing sims are boring....regardless of how well they are done.
But that doesn't change facts.... if you gotta take notes on your competition, obviously you realize they have something that you don't. THERE's NO WAY AROUND IT!
By all means though.... keep lying to yourselves... close your eyes, plug your ears... and scream "NO" over and over.
I especially love the argument... "Everyone does it... it's okay".... and then a game comes out that's a blatant rip off of God of War... and then its all.... "OMG, no originality, they had to copy GoW.... ahhhh.... LOL" fanboys are so funny.
whatisazerg
If you honestly don't think every other company does it you are really kidding yourself. How each company decides to use that information is entirely up to them.
It is good that they are taking notes. I dont see any reason to make fun of them. Because of their current action, GT would be able to become better than before.
Exactly, I don't know why people try and turn this into a negative. This is a huge kudos to Turn 10.It is good that they are taking notes. I dont see any reason to make fun of them. Because of their current action, GT would be able to become better than before.
Zerocrossings
How is it ownage? They were just checking out the bad competition.[QUOTE="whatisazerg"]
really? this news is old?
this is the 1st i heard of it....
regardless its still funny and a ton of ownage.
jakehouston88
GT5> Forza 3
:lol:
If it's such a bad competition, why would they be taking pictures, notes, and asking "interesting" questions?
They have finally realized that Forza is a worthy competitor, and that it is in fact the superior driving simulator, so they have to get their act together.
But that doesn't change facts.... if you gotta take notes on your competition, obviously you realize they have something that you don't. THERE's NO WAY AROUND IT!
whatisazerg
So when a Policeman takes a note, that means the offender must have a Porcshe?
[QUOTE="whatisazerg"]
Notice how almost everyone who is upset by this thread has an Avatar or Sig relating to the PS3, or 1 of it's franchises in some way.
Geee.....what a coincidence. :lol:
I don't even care about Forza 3 or GT5... I think racing sims are boring....regardless of how well they are done.
But that doesn't change facts.... if you gotta take notes on your competition, obviously you realize they have something that you don't. THERE's NO WAY AROUND IT!
By all means though.... keep lying to yourselves... close your eyes, plug your ears... and scream "NO" over and over.
I especially love the argument... "Everyone does it... it's okay".... and then a game comes out that's a blatant rip off of God of War... and then its all.... "OMG, no originality, they had to copy GoW.... ahhhh.... LOL" fanboys are so funny.
Chutebox
If you honestly don't think every other company does it you are really kidding yourself. How each company decides to use that information is entirely up to them.
Where did I claim that no one else does this sort of thing? Please show me. And where did I say it was okay for them? But facts are facts..... the guy who needs to copy from someone else, is the guy admitting that someone else has the answer that he doesn't.
GT5 may very well turn out to be a better sim racer than Forza3, I don't know.... but it's funny as heck that Polyphony was seen & photographed taking notes on Turn10's game.
Like I said b4, if this had been the other way around.... Forza fans wouldnt even be able to visit this forum.
[QUOTE="Chutebox"]
[QUOTE="whatisazerg"]
Notice how almost everyone who is upset by this thread has an Avatar or Sig relating to the PS3, or 1 of it's franchises in some way.
Geee.....what a coincidence. :lol:
I don't even care about Forza 3 or GT5... I think racing sims are boring....regardless of how well they are done.
But that doesn't change facts.... if you gotta take notes on your competition, obviously you realize they have something that you don't. THERE's NO WAY AROUND IT!
By all means though.... keep lying to yourselves... close your eyes, plug your ears... and scream "NO" over and over.
I especially love the argument... "Everyone does it... it's okay".... and then a game comes out that's a blatant rip off of God of War... and then its all.... "OMG, no originality, they had to copy GoW.... ahhhh.... LOL" fanboys are so funny.
whatisazerg
If you honestly don't think every other company does it you are really kidding yourself. How each company decides to use that information is entirely up to them.
Where did I claim that no one else does this sort of thing? Please show me. And where did I say it was okay for them? But facts are facts..... the guy who needs to copy from someone else, is the guy admitting that someone else has the answer that he doesn't.
GT5 may very well turn out to be a better sim racer than Forza3, I don't know.... but it's funny as heck that Polyphony was seen & photographed taking notes on Turn10's game.
Like I said b4, if this had been the other way around.... Forza fans wouldnt even be able to visit this forum.
It's not funny. You don't think Turn 10 has ever looked at Poly's stuff?
This is just silly.
And you're just proving how both sides are hypocrites, which is something that didn't need reminding.
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