Portal 2 is overrated.

best thing about it is the jokes. The game its self was decent but by no means goty. vavle gets a free pass alot these days.

[QUOTE="ShadowsDemon"][QUOTE="Goyoshi12"] But they're different games...they're quality and replay value is very different from Portal 2's quality and replay value.

Minishdriveby

Lol, this guy is probably a 360 **** who's mad that portal ended up looking much better on the PS3.BattlefieldFan1

Theres nothing in his post that indicates he was mad at all. All criticsm's were aimed at the gameplay and replay value, not the graphics.

And if we are talking graphics, the PC crushes them all so your point is very invalid

[QUOTE="Minishdriveby"][QUOTE="ShadowsDemon"] Then why did someone say that "you could say the same thing about a lot of games"?ShadowsDemon

[QUOTE="ShadowsDemon"]

Because you can, you bring up LA noire. What's the point of replaying LA Noire once you know the culprit? Again having no replay value is something subjective. You might think LA Noire has replay value. I might think it's a waste of time if I already know the outcome of the case. Someone might think that Portal 2 shouldn't be played 2 times, but others might notice things they hadn't on the first playthrough. Easter eggs, foreshadowing, etc. And once again. Why should I ever watch a movie twice? Read a book twice? or play the majority of games twice? The majority of games I play are linear. Gears of War and Halo have no replay value if you don't have Xbox live. Dead Space is the same every single time you play through it. It may not be as diverse as Skyrim in what it offers. I may have misspoken originally in generalizing "every" earlier; I should have stated "the majority", but as for quality I don't think I have had a glitch occur in Portal 2. Minishdriveby

I would argue it's not as good as the first if we're talking strictly solo play(I still have not done the coop stuff, because AAllxxjjnn is doo-doo). Portal 1 to me was better to me because

A: It was shorter, and thus had less filler by default.
B: To me the 2nd game feels like I come to more halts because the game is trying to tell its narrative, and then let me do the puzzles. In the first game it felt more like I was playing a puzzle game that just knew how to be funny, and keep me interested in the extra stuff.
C: That middle section of the game where it's basically find random white spots on far ass walls was boring. If Cave Johnson did not exist those sequences would be incredibly lame.

I will say that Cave Johnson however got royally snubbed for best character. He was so much better than Wheatley. Oh and the gels are awesome.

[QUOTE="Sushiglutton"]I disagree. It's one of the hardest things in making a game (so it seems) to throw away the junk/fillers. I much rather have fifteen great hours than a hundred hours of fetch quests/pointless upgrades/recycled enviroments and badly designed extra gameplay (like the tower defence in AC:R) etc. Portal is awesome. Only thing wrong with it is the difficulty, but I accept it's designed for slightly younger people.harry_james_pot

I agree. I don't get all the high reviews either.Chrome-

Portal 2 is one of the best examples of a game that does what it's supposed to almost flawlessly. The controls are tight. The pacing is great. The writing and voice acting feel authentic and move you through the puzzles in a way few other games in the genre can. As a sequal it improved in virtually every catagory.

I understand that not everyone will ever agree on something beging good or bad, but when music, movies, or games are critically acclaimed from virtually every single source, calling it mediocre or bad instead of saying I didn't like it, makes you look like a f***ing moron.

Trust me, I despise plenty of popular things, and I'm not afraid to say it. But I'm also not retarded enough to think that my outlying opinions are enough to knock down the general consensus of millions of others with an overused meaningless cliche term like "overratted." The term needs to die. It's lost it's meaning and is the ultimate copout.

Metalscarz

Agree so much with the last paragraph. I wonder if "X game is overrated" threads should be closed...

Replay value doesn't matter. It's never matter to me. Do I take replay value into account when discussing the quality of movies or music? No. Same thing with games. AAllxxjjnn

[QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"]Replay value doesn't matter. It's never matter to me. Do I take replay value into account when discussing the quality of movies or music? No. Same thing with games. Elann2008

Replay value doesn't matter. It's never mattered to me. Do I take replay value into account when discussing the quality of movies or music? No. Same thing with games. AAllxxjjnn

Portal 2 does have decent replay value. Adventure games (of which Portal 2 is one of them) are commonly mistaken to have little to no replay value because of the idea that once you figure out the puzzles, the value is gone. Erroneous. Try the game again in several months time, and not only will you enjoy going through the game again, you'll have forgotten the sequence to half the puzzles.

That being said, It's never a good thing to compare games to movies or music. They're fundamentally two separate things. Games seem to inherently be judged by their replay value. It's why a lot of WRPGs score high, Mario, Zelda and Metroid score high, and this generation's stupid 'choice' mechanic gets a lot of attention.

Now that I think about it, all of Valve's singleplayer games interestingly have high replay value despite being scripted to the last line of code. Buzzy.

[QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"]Replay value doesn't matter. It's never mattered to me. Do I take replay value into account when discussing the quality of movies or music? No. Same thing with games. FrozenLiquid

Overrated? Yes.

Still a great game? Yes.

Overrated? Yes.

Still a great game? Yes.

[QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"][QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"]Replay value doesn't matter. It's never mattered to me. Do I take replay value into account when discussing the quality of movies or music? No. Same thing with games. AAllxxjjnn

Was better than any other game that came out in 2011.

[QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"][QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

That's a profoundly stupid thing to say to be honest

seanmcloughlin

lol at the first part :lol:

Anyway people always replay through games, all the time. If you really enjoyed a game and you finish it and are very happy with the game overall chances are you will play through it again soon or right away that is if you don't have a mountain of games to play through first.

Same reason you would watch a movie again. Just to experience it again, do things differently, choose different options, notice stuff you didn't the first time around etc. There are lots of reasons why someone would play through a game again. It's what people do. You paid for a game so you might as well play it a lot

I've just never been that way myself. I've probably only replayed about 10% of games I've ever finished.

It's different from rewatching movies, because a movie consists of only the important parts and nothing is dispensable, whereas in most games there's a lot of standard gameplay between the key parts that isn't as fun when you've already done it (especially in Portal, where if you know the solution the puzzle is meaningless). And unless it's a deep RPG, or has a new game + feature, the experience isn't going to be super different no matter what you do.

I think if a game is really excellent the first time, it's worth the money, even if you don't get a lot of hours of gameplay out of it.

It should have been a $30 game.

[QUOTE="PinnacleGamingP"]portal 2, decent game... shouldnt have won GOTY on here tho of course since demons souls already won GOTY dark souls wasnt gonna win it again. so by defaullt GOTY Uncharted 3.Minishdriveby

[QUOTE="Minishdriveby"][QUOTE="PinnacleGamingP"]portal 2, decent game... shouldnt have won GOTY on here tho of course since demons souls already won GOTY dark souls wasnt gonna win it again. so by defaullt GOTY Uncharted 3.PinnacleGamingP

[QUOTE="PinnacleGamingP"][QUOTE="Minishdriveby"] Portal 2 didn't win GOTY.Minishdriveby

Only 15 hours? Most games are 4-6 hours long. Bread_or_Decide

[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"]Only 15 hours? Most games are 4-6 hours long. TheWiseGai

Vanquish, Dead Space 2, Most shooters (Resitance, Gears, Halo) if you don't have online/two controllers.

4 hours is a little bit on the short side I think most games hit around the 6-8 hour mark. That's the sweet spot shooter campaigns these days.

[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"]Only 15 hours? Most games are 4-6 hours long. TheWiseGai

[QUOTE="TheWiseGai"]

[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"]Only 15 hours? Most games are 4-6 hours long. Bread_or_Decide

Looks like you haven't played Pushmo for the 3DS.

[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"][QUOTE="TheWiseGai"]The hell... Can I get some examples , pleasE?

peterw007

Looks like you haven't played Pushmo for the 3DS.

Only 15 hours? Most games are 4-6 hours long. Bread_or_Decide

[QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"]Replay value doesn't matter. It's never mattered to me. Do I take replay value into account when discussing the quality of movies or music? No. Same thing with games. FrozenLiquid

Portal 2 does have decent replay value. Adventure games (of which Portal 2 is one of them) are commonly mistaken to have little to no replay value because of the idea that once you figure out the puzzles, the value is gone. Erroneous. Try the game again in several months time, and not only will you enjoy going through the game again, you'll have forgotten the sequence to half the puzzles.

That being said, It's never a good thing to compare games to movies or music. They're fundamentally two separate things. Games seem to inherently be judged by their replay value. It's why a lot of WRPGs score high, Mario, Zelda and Metroid score high, and this generation's stupid 'choice' mechanic gets a lot of attention.

Now that I think about it, all of Valve's singleplayer games interestingly have high replay value despite being scripted to the last line of code. Buzzy.

The only Valve game I can think of with proper high replay value from Valve is L4D 1 and 2. Oh and TF2 (kinda obvious) Half Life 2 has little replay value. Sure the individual may find that they enjoy going back into Half Life, but it really doesn't award anything or have a different experience when you play it the second time. Halo is a much more replayable FPS, even if we just look at the campaign

[QUOTE="Bardock47"]

[QUOTE="15strong"]

I for one would be up for any game that gets so much praise and so many accolades.

15strong

Whatever. I don't care if you play it. It's your loss to be so close minded. But that's right, someone at some point in time told a game was good and you didn't like it. I can't really stand people who won't give a game a shot becasue it "isn't their thing".

Quality>Quantity.

and don't forget that the game is often on sale.