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#1 drakekratos
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The original PlayStation dominated the competition, knocking Nintendo's N64 off their high-horse and sending SEGA into a desperate frenzy.

PlayStation 2 came out and dominated even more... becoming the best selling home console ever. It knocked SEGA out of the console manufacturing business, walked all over the GameCube, and crushed XBox so bad that MS lost a ton of money on their console. 

PS3, while not as dominant as it's predecessors, has still sold 75+ Million units globally. It is basically tied with Xbox360 in sales despite coming out an entire year later (year and a half later in Europe) and being more expensive ($599 at Launch). IMO Sony did everything to screw up the PS3's launch and it hurt their reputation a lot, but they still somehow made a comeback and did what no one thought was possible. They tied 360 in sales (give or take.... whoever has the lead right now, its by an insignificant margin). 


Now this gen, Wii U has Launched first and is doing pretty abysmal sales. The new Xbox is strongly rumoured to have weaker specs than the PS4. Sony has struck before MS and has generated a ton of buzz for the PS4. The Launch window looks pretty good with Drive Club, Killzone, Knack, Watch Dogs, ACIV:Black Flag, and more. Plus securing exclusive content for Bungie's Destiny was a solid move. 2014 will probably see Infamous:Second Son and Uncharted 4 come out. 

The controller has been upgraded. PS4's online is up to par, if not better than XBL. PS4 is dev-friendly and will be easier to develop for. 

And the way I look at it, if Sony could tie 360 with the PS3 despite all their screw ups.... then next gen should be an easy victory considering they're both coming out around the same time and Sony has promised the new console won't be $599 like PS3 was.


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#2 lx_theo
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Very premature.

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I dont care about sales, I care about games, and oh boy Sony delivers.
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#4 Silverbond
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Who cares?

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How would PS4 dominate with interactive movies?

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#6 drakekratos
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Who cares?

Silverbond

Apparently a lot of Xbox fans care, since they've been running their mouths about PS3 being "last place" this entire generation.

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#7 wakefulness
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[QUOTE="Silverbond"]

Who cares?

drakekratos

Apparently a lot of Xbox fans care, since they've been running their mouths about PS3 being "last place" this entire generation.

 

Isn't PS3 on track to surpass 360 in lifetime sales? I'm sure I read that somewhere. :\

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#8 Silverbond
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[QUOTE="Silverbond"]

Who cares?

drakekratos

Apparently a lot of Xbox fans care, since they've been running their mouths about PS3 being "last place" this entire generation.

I'm sorry that what lemmings say causes you to become butthurt.
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#9 drakekratos
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[QUOTE="drakekratos"]

[QUOTE="Silverbond"]

Who cares?

wakefulness

Apparently a lot of Xbox fans care, since they've been running their mouths about PS3 being "last place" this entire generation.

 

Isn't PS3 on track to surpass 360 in lifetime sales? I'm sure I read that somewhere. :\

Yup. They're pretty much tied right now... and PS3 is selling better than 360 every month.
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#10 psymon100
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Put it to you like this:

If PS4 isn't #1 next gen, well, then that #1 machine (whatever it is) must be pretty impressive, or have an impressive line up of games. What I've seen about the PS4, it's very much a well thought out console. It is certainly a very very strong contender. 

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#11 campzor
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will be first in games (where it counts for gamers) just like every playstation generation.
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[QUOTE="drakekratos"]

[QUOTE="Silverbond"]

Who cares?

wakefulness

Apparently a lot of Xbox fans care, since they've been running their mouths about PS3 being "last place" this entire generation.

 

Isn't PS3 on track to surpass 360 in lifetime sales? I'm sure I read that somewhere. :\

ps3 sold 77m, i think it already passed the 360

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I think it depends on how you look at it? Will the PS4 win the core gaming market? Very possible. But will the PS4 be popular among soccer moms hoping to shed a few pounds? Very doubtful
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[QUOTE="wakefulness"]

[QUOTE="drakekratos"] Apparently a lot of Xbox fans care, since they've been running their mouths about PS3 being "last place" this entire generation.

drakekratos

 

Isn't PS3 on track to surpass 360 in lifetime sales? I'm sure I read that somewhere. :\

Yup. They're pretty much tied right now... and PS3 is selling better than 360 every month.

 

I heard PS3 is the number one source for Netflix as well. Pretty impressive facts.

 

Why do you think we only hear about people playing their CoD games on XBL all the time?

 

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Let's see what M$ brings to the table with their revel.

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#16 Murderstyle75
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Let's see what M$ brings to the table with their revel.

HaloPimp978
Or do yourself a favor and research all their new game studios. With the exception of Black Tusk, all their new studios are very family and Kinect oriented. You don't need E3 to figure out the direction they are heading in.
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#17 drakekratos
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[QUOTE="HaloPimp978"]

Let's see what M$ brings to the table with their revel.

Murderstyle75
Or do yourself a favor and research all their new game studios. With the exception of Black Tusk, all their new studios are very family and Kinect oriented. You don't need E3 to figure out the direction they are heading in.

Exactly.
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I think PS4 will come in first place this time. PS4 seems like a much better thought out console than the PS3 was plus I don't see them launching at $599. The fact that they'll actually launch with games this time is also a huge advantage. I remember when I bought my PS3 at launch and all I had to play for months was RFOM (:| that was horrible). This time they'll actually launch with KZ, Infamous, DriveClub, Destiny and whatever they'll announce at E3. MS will really have to bring the games this time or hope that Kinect is a wild success like the wii was to beat Sony. From the looks of it MS has abandoned making games and they are hoping that Kinect is the next in thing. Good luck to them but I'll be spending my money on the console with games to go along my PC.
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#19 Heil68
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[QUOTE="campzor"]will be first in games (where it counts for gamers) just like every playstation generation.

Yup.
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#20 HaloPimp978
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[QUOTE="HaloPimp978"]

Let's see what M$ brings to the table with their revel.

Murderstyle75

Or do yourself a favor and research all their new game studios. With the exception of Black Tusk, all their new studios are very family and Kinect oriented. You don't need E3 to figure out the direction they are heading in.

Oh I know MS is going full casual I don't need a lem to do tell me what do I'm buying the damn console anyways.

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#21 OldSnakePS3
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will be first in games (where it counts for gamers) just like every playstation generation.campzor
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I think PS4 will come in first place this time. PS4 seems like a much better thought out console than the PS3 was plus I don't see them launching at $599. The fact that they'll actually launch with games this time is also a huge advantage. I remember when I bought my PS3 at launch and all I had to play for months was RFOM (:| that was horrible). This time they'll actually launch with KZ, Infamous, DriveClub, Destiny and whatever they'll announce at E3. MS will really have to bring the games this time or hope that Kinect is a wild success like the wii was to beat Sony. From the looks of it MS has abandoned making games and they are hoping that Kinect is the next in thing. Good luck to them but I'll be spending my money on the console with games to go along my PC.I_can_haz
Not sure if Infamous:Second Son is a launch title. It might be better if they leave that one for Feb 2014.
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last place in games and sales like the ps3? let's hope that doesn't happen again. :(

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last place in games and sales like the ps3? let's hope that doesn't happen again. :(

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You been reading VGChartz I take it?
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#25 Phazevariance
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[QUOTE="Silverbond"]

Who cares?

drakekratos

Apparently a lot of Xbox fans care, since they've been running their mouths about PS3 being "last place" this entire generation.

Apparently PS3 fans care becaus ehtey'v ebeen claiming victory since the start of the generation even while in last place, AND are already claiming vicroty before MS even anounces their console. I lol at them!
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[QUOTE="Silverbond"]

Who cares?

drakekratos

Apparently a lot of Xbox fans care, since they've been running their mouths about PS3 being "last place" this entire generation.

At least they can compare systems. You are declaring the PS4 winner not only before the system has launched and how you know very little about the PS4 but the worst is how you declare the PS4 a winner before the Nextbox has even been announced or shown,

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[QUOTE="drakekratos"]

[QUOTE="Silverbond"]

Who cares?

CanYouDiglt

Apparently a lot of Xbox fans care, since they've been running their mouths about PS3 being "last place" this entire generation.

At least they can compare systems. You are declaring the PS4 winner not only before the system has launched and how you know very little about the PS4 but the worst is how you declare the PS4 a winner before the Nextbox has even been announced or shown,

I don't see anyway that Sony won't be #1 next gen. Wii U is already in the gutter. And I don't see anything MS could do to combat the Sony powerhouse.
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#28 Wolfetan
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How would PS4 dominate with interactive movies?

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[QUOTE="sonic1564"]

How would PS4 dominate with interactive movies?

Wolfetan

I love you, Sonic. And making replicate threads of yours.

I love you too my loyal fan.

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#30 sonic1564
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Ha ha, but seriously, Nextbox hasn't been announced yet. Let them make the announcement then do your damage control TC.

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[QUOTE="Wolfetan"][QUOTE="sonic1564"]

How would PS4 dominate with interactive movies?

sonic1564

I love you, Sonic. And making replicate threads of yours.

I love you too my loyal fan.

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Ha ha, but seriously, Nextbox hasn't been announced yet. Let them make the announcement then do your damage control TC.

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and what are they going to announce? Something good from MGS Kids & Lifestyle Entertainment? Another interactive Sesame Street season from Soho? Rare has a game in the works. It's for Kinect though. Meanwhile another one of their founders got fed up and left. This one joined Sony. Maybe Good Science can do Kinect Adventures 2.
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#33 sonic1564
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[QUOTE="sonic1564"]

Ha ha, but seriously, Nextbox hasn't been announced yet. Let them make the announcement then do your damage control TC.

Murderstyle75

and what are they going to announce? Something good from MGS Kids & Lifestyle Entertainment? Another interactive Sesame Street season from Soho? Rare has a game in the works. It's for Kinect though. Meanwhile another one of their founders got fed up and left. This one joined Sony. Maybe Good Science can do Kinect Adventures 2.

I don't know, but the thing is that you don't either.

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[QUOTE="sonic1564"]

[QUOTE="Wolfetan"] I love you, Sonic. And making replicate threads of yours.Wolfetan

I love you too my loyal fan.

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[QUOTE="campzor"]will be first in games (where it counts for gamers) just like every playstation generation.OldSnakePS3

this

 

PS4 will also have Google TV, so that's pretty awesome too. =)

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[QUOTE="Murderstyle75"][QUOTE="sonic1564"]

Ha ha, but seriously, Nextbox hasn't been announced yet. Let them make the announcement then do your damage control TC.

sonic1564

and what are they going to announce? Something good from MGS Kids & Lifestyle Entertainment? Another interactive Sesame Street season from Soho? Rare has a game in the works. It's for Kinect though. Meanwhile another one of their founders got fed up and left. This one joined Sony. Maybe Good Science can do Kinect Adventures 2.

I don't know, but the thing is that you don't either.

But I do know the garbage I have seen for over 2 years now. And what has been stopping the development of great games for about 4 years now? Ill tell you. They closed down or sold off most of their core studios while transforming others into Family only studios. All this happened when they decided to invest tons of money into both Kinect and advertising. At the time they spent 400 million on their now defunct advertising agency (Massive Incorporated), they sold off Bizarre Creations and closed down others. You cannot tell me that with all the crap that's been going on with this company in recent years, you can remain optimistic. In the last few years its been letdown after letdown after letdown. And now even Lionhead is being run by a Kinect developer.
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But I do know the garbage I have seen for over 2 years now. And what has been stopping the development of great games for about 4 years now? Ill tell you. They closed down or sold off most of their core studios while transforming others into Family only studios. All this happened when they decided to invest tons of money into both Kinect and advertising. At the time they spent 400 million on their now defunct advertising agency (Massive Incorporated), they sold off Bizarre Creations and closed down others. You cannot tell me that with all the crap that's been going on with this company in recent years, you can remain optimistic. In the last few years its been letdown after letdown after letdown. And now even Lionhead is being run by a Kinect developer.Murderstyle75

You can't predict the future buddy. If you don't want a 720 that's fine, but you're not going to convince everyone into buying a PS4. In fact, calves have been turning me away from the Playstation brand.

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Yet the calves on this board are not a reason to be turned away from a brand. Go on another board and it could be the exact opposite. You should see all the Xbox fanboys who post on Team Xbox. None of these forum people should represent a decision or give you a bad taste. Games are the most important thing and if you are not a die hard Halo fan, the brand really is lacking. You can't deny this.
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[QUOTE="Wolfetan"][QUOTE="sonic1564"]

I love you too my loyal fan.

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#40 sonic1564
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Yet the calves on this board are not a reason to be turned away from a brand. Go on another board and it could be the exact opposite. You should see all the Xbox fanboys who post on Team Xbox. None of these forum people should represent a decision or give you a bad taste. Games are the most important thing and if you are not a die hard Halo fan, the brand really is lacking. You can't deny this.Murderstyle75

Its funny how you deny that calves aren't bad fanboys when they are just as bad as everyone else.

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The original PlayStation dominated the competition, knocking Nintendo's N64 off their high-horse and sending SEGA into a desperate frenzy.

PlayStation 2 came out and dominated even more... becoming the best selling home console ever. It knocked SEGA out of the console manufacturing business, walked all over the GameCube, and crushed XBox so bad that MS lost a ton of money on their console. 

PS3, while not as dominant as it's predecessors, has still sold 75+ Million units globally. It is basically tied with Xbox360 in sales despite coming out an entire year later (year and a half later in Europe) and being more expensive ($599 at Launch). IMO Sony did everything to screw up the PS3's launch and it hurt their reputation a lot, but they still somehow made a comeback and did what no one thought was possible. They tied 360 in sales (give or take.... whoever has the lead right now, its by an insignificant margin). 


Now this gen, Wii U has Launched first and is doing pretty abysmal sales. The new Xbox is strongly rumoured to have weaker specs than the PS4. Sony has struck before MS and has generated a ton of buzz for the PS4. The Launch window looks pretty good with Drive Club, Killzone, Knack, Watch Dogs, ACIV:Black Flag, and more. Plus securing exclusive content for Bungie's Destiny was a solid move. 2014 will probably see Infamous:Second Son and Uncharted 4 come out. 

The controller has been upgraded. PS4's online is up to par, if not better than XBL. PS4 is dev-friendly and will be easier to develop for. 

And the way I look at it, if Sony could tie 360 with the PS3 despite all their screw ups.... then next gen should be an easy victory considering they're both coming out around the same time and Sony has promised the new console won't be $599 like PS3 was.

drakekratos

everything in bold is either speculation / untrue / or doesnt matter. 

PSN better than XBL?!?! :lol: :lol: :lol: 

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Guess you didn't watch the PS4 meeting reveal ^^^
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#43 sonic1564
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Guess you didn't watch the PS4 meeting reveal ^^^drakekratos

He is right though, that exclusive lineup is weak.

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100% truth.
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How would PS4 dominate with interactive movies?

sonic1564

How can Microsoft dominate with no games?

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[QUOTE="drakekratos"]

The original PlayStation dominated the competition, knocking Nintendo's N64 off their high-horse and sending SEGA into a desperate frenzy.

PlayStation 2 came out and dominated even more... becoming the best selling home console ever. It knocked SEGA out of the console manufacturing business, walked all over the GameCube, and crushed XBox so bad that MS lost a ton of money on their console.

PS3, while not as dominant as it's predecessors, has still sold 75+ Million units globally. It is basically tied with Xbox360 in sales despite coming out an entire year later (year and a half later in Europe) and being more expensive ($599 at Launch). IMO Sony did everything to screw up the PS3's launch and it hurt their reputation a lot, but they still somehow made a comeback and did what no one thought was possible. They tied 360 in sales (give or take.... whoever has the lead right now, its by an insignificant margin).


Now this gen, Wii U has Launched first and is doing pretty abysmal sales. The new Xbox is strongly rumoured to have weaker specs than the PS4. Sony has struck before MS and has generated a ton of buzz for the PS4. The Launch window looks pretty good with Drive Club, Killzone, Knack, Watch Dogs, ACIV:Black Flag, and more. Plus securing exclusive content for Bungie's Destiny was a solid move. 2014 will probably see Infamous:Second Son and Uncharted 4 come out.

The controller has been upgraded. PS4's online is up to par, if not better than XBL. PS4 is dev-friendly and will be easier to develop for.

And the way I look at it, if Sony could tie 360 with the PS3 despite all their screw ups.... then next gen should be an easy victory considering they're both coming out around the same time and Sony has promised the new console won't be $599 like PS3 was.

THE_Rob_Himself

everything in bold is either speculation / untrue / or doesnt matter.

PSN better than XBL?!?! :lol: :lol: :lol:

Did you watch the PS4 event? The new PSN will be heavily intergrated with gaikai technology and of course it will have cross game chat. XBL has nothing on PSN now.

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#47 drakekratos
Member since 2011 • 2311 Posts

[QUOTE="drakekratos"]Guess you didn't watch the PS4 meeting reveal ^^^sonic1564

He is right though, that exclusive lineup is weak.

and you've been trolling PS4 all day. It's like Kaz Hirai banged your mom and you've got a personal vendetta now.
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#48 Speedzilla
Member since 2012 • 1732 Posts

will be first in games (where it counts for gamers) just like every playstation generation.campzor

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#49 Karpetburnz
Member since 2013 • 532 Posts

Ha ha, but seriously, Nextbox hasn't been announced yet. Let them make the announcement then do your damage control TC.

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Probably diddnt stop you from voting "no" in the poll ;)

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#50 Lotus-Edge
Member since 2008 • 50513 Posts

Let's see what M$ brings to the table with their revel.

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