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#1 Uncle_Uzi
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Here comes Rainbow Six: Vegas 2

The grandaddy of Modern Tactical Combat Simulation returns to take back it's title. Here it comes.

An all the new game changing feature, A.C.E.S. allows players to evolve their character uniquely according to how they play. More headshots will unlock new Sniper Rifles. Killing a flash-banged opponent in close quarters will unlock new Combat Shotguns. This kind of system will create truly unique characters that allow for an RPG-like kind of player development.

Combined with the advanced avatar creator tool P.E.C., superior Tactical gameplay and an unprecedented 42 unlockable weapons, Rainbow Six: Vegas 2's multiplayer component is set to completely blow Call Of Duty 4's out of the water. In every way imaginable it will be superior. Elements of Gameplay that CoD4 borrowed from Rainbow Six such as Class-Creation and Weapon Customization will be improved, and then the favor will be returned: fine additions such as the ability to shoot through cover and sprinting will be implemented into Vegas 2.

And the options for online gameplay are fully realized in Vegas 2. A full length 2-player online co-op campaign, 4-player online "Terrorist Hunt", and a gametype selection that nearly rivals that of Halo 3. These options for playing online ensure for always varying gameplay and constant thrills.

Rainbow Six: Vegas 2 is set to overthrow CoD4 and replace it as the premiere Modern Combat Simulator. Welcome back to Vegas, Team Rainbow. We'll brief you March 18th.

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#2 67gt500
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RSV2 will be awesome, no doubt... but it seems more likely that if CoD4 game lobbies dry up a bit after Team Rainbow's next opus it will have more to do with the novelty of players having a new game to try, than some deficiency on CoD4's part... CoD4 de-throned the juggernaut that is Halo3 in the hearts and minds of many online gamers worldwide... that's gonna be a tough act to topple.
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#3 p2rus
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i like cod4, and so do cows, lemmins, and hermits. lemmings seem to like it better than halo 3 ( more playing time on xbl) and its a sure thing that im playing it on the ps3. hell i could play this game the rest of this gen online.

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#4 SSCyborg
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Isn't Halo back on top now? :?
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#5 HoldThePhone
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Here comes Rainbow Six: Vegas 2

The grandaddy of Modern Tactical Combat Simulation returns to take back it's title. Here it comes.

An all the new game changing feature, A.C.E.S. allows players to evolve their character uniquely according to how they play. More headshots will unlock new Sniper Rifles. Killing a flash-banged opponent in close quarters will unlock new Combat Shotguns. This kind of system will create truly unique characters that allow for an RPG-like kind of player development.

Combined with the advanced avatar creator tool P.E.C., superior Tactical gameplay and an unprecedented 42 unlockable weapons, Rainbow Six: Vegas 2's multiplayer component is set to completely blow Call Of Duty 4's out of the water. In every way imaginable it will be superior. Elements of Gameplay that CoD4 borrowed from Rainbow Six such as Class-Creation and Weapon Customization will be improved, and then the favor will be returned: fine additions such as the ability to shoot through cover and sprinting will be implemented into Vegas 2.

And the options for online gameplay are fully realized in Vegas 2. A full length 2-player online co-op campaign, 4-player online "Terrorist Hunt", and a gametype selection that nearly rivals that of Halo 3. These options for playing online ensure for always varying gameplay and constant thrills.

Rainbow Six: Vegas 2 is set to overthrow CoD4 and replace it as the premiere Modern Combat Simulator. Welcome back to Vegas, Team Rainbow. We'll brief you March 18th.

Uncle_Uzi

Two completely differenrt styled games, and frankly COD4 is more appealing to the masses. Learn more about your games.

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#6 X_CAPCOM_X
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I thought the TC would say "CoD5 is here!".
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#7 f50p90
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I doubt it.
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#8 Uncle_Uzi
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Two completely differenrt styled games, and frankly COD4 is more appealing to the masses. Learn more about your games.

HoldThePhone

HAHAHA

This is probably the most justifiable comparison of games in the history of man. These two games are in precisely the same genre. YOU sir need to learn more about your games. 8)

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#9 MrGrimFandango
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CoD4? You mean CS? because CS has yet to be dethroned and CoD4 or Halo certainly never did it...and I highly doubt a rainbow 6 game will.
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#10 Dipufresh
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yo cod4 sux

idk why peopel like it so much

i have it and i always own in it no matter wat the frekaing game is too easYYYY

the best online shooters are the socom franchise

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Gears 2 is going to knock CoD4 out of first place. 8)

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#12 p2rus
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yo cod4 sux

idk why peopel like it so much

i have it and i always own in it no matter wat the frekaing game is too easYYYY

the best online shooters are the socom franchise

Dipufresh

easy? its well balanced and fun to play online, but hard to be really good at.

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#13 michael098
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Lol a rainbow 6 game? I have lost all hope for rainbow 6.
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#14 p2rus
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Gears 2 is going to knock CoD4 out of first place. 8)

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those are totally different styles of online shooters, but for what its worth i feel that cod4 was a much better shooter than gears of war. the online aspect is incredible, its the cs for the console. not only that, but its very well balanced (much more than gears) and doesnt suffer from abuse like gears active reload sniper or the moonwalk sprting or other problems.

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#15 MrGrimFandango
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yo cod4 sux

idk why peopel like it so much

i have it and i always own in it no matter wat the frekaing game is too easYYYY

the best online shooters are the socom franchise

Dipufresh

Socom is a joke on its best day, CS destroys that terrible game, online, all day long.

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#16 Dipufresh
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yea it fun but no to challenging

idk if it me or wat but people die in this game way too easilY and quicK

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[QUOTE="HoldThePhone"]

Two completely differenrt styled games, and frankly COD4 is more appealing to the masses. Learn more about your games.

Uncle_Uzi

HAHAHA

This is probably the most justifiable comparison of games in the history of man. These two games are in precisely the same genre. YOU sir need to learn more about your games. 8)

Same genre yes, but completly differnt from eachother.

Explain to me how they are the same, because i dont feel like wasting my time on you.

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[QUOTE="Uncle_Uzi"][QUOTE="HoldThePhone"]

Two completely differenrt styled games, and frankly COD4 is more appealing to the masses. Learn more about your games.

HoldThePhone

HAHAHA

This is probably the most justifiable comparison of games in the history of man. These two games are in precisely the same genre. YOU sir need to learn more about your games. 8)

Same genre yes, but completly differnt from eachother.

Explain to me how they are the same, because i dont feel like wasting my time on you.

TC your actualy in the wrong. Rainbow 6 is a tactical shooter, CoD4 is an arcade shooter. And because of that it DOES appeal more to the masses.

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#19 Franko_3
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Crysis>r6:v2>>>>>>>>>cod4
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#20 SaintTheKing
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Am i the only one that dislikes the whole Rainbow 6 Franchise?
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#21 Uncle_Uzi
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[QUOTE="Uncle_Uzi"][QUOTE="HoldThePhone"]

Two completely differenrt styled games, and frankly COD4 is more appealing to the masses. Learn more about your games.

HoldThePhone

HAHAHA

This is probably the most justifiable comparison of games in the history of man. These two games are in precisely the same genre. YOU sir need to learn more about your games. 8)

Same genre yes, but completly differnt from eachother.

Explain to me how they are the same, because i dont feel like wasting my time on you.

You crack me up.

A) if you don't feel like wasting your precious time, then why did you even post?

B) They are both realistic tactical shooters. They both have real-world weapons, and they both play realisticly. They both have class-based MP, and they are both set in present day. There are many more similar features and characteristics between the two series, far more than I feel like listing.

But yes, there you go. I doubt you've played both - like I have. Because if you did, then you'd wish you never asked.

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#22 67gt500
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Lol a rainbow 6 game? I have lost all hope for rainbow 6.michael098

Before RSV, I would agree with you all the way. Luckily for Ubisoft, Vegas restored a lot of people's faith in the franchise's viability... If Vegas2 can do more of the same, then some gamers who became cynical towards Rainbow Six just might return to the fold. Personally, I'm looking forward to Vegas2 - it could be their best outing yet...

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[QUOTE="HoldThePhone"][QUOTE="Uncle_Uzi"][QUOTE="HoldThePhone"]

Two completely differenrt styled games, and frankly COD4 is more appealing to the masses. Learn more about your games.

Uncle_Uzi

HAHAHA

This is probably the most justifiable comparison of games in the history of man. These two games are in precisely the same genre. YOU sir need to learn more about your games. 8)

Same genre yes, but completly differnt from eachother.

Explain to me how they are the same, because i dont feel like wasting my time on you.

You crack me up.

A) if you don't feel like wasting your precious time, then why did you even post?

B) They are both realistic tactical shooters. They both have real-world weapons, and they both play realisticly. They both have class-based MP, and they are both set in present day. There are many more similar features and characteristics between the two series, far more than I feel like listing.

But yes, there you go. I doubt you've played both - like I have. Because if you did, then you'd wish you never asked.

CoD4 is not a tactical shooter, its an arcade shooter.

CoD4 sold what 7-8 million? Rb6 vegas 2 wont come close to that

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#24 aliblabla2007
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R6V2, meet Battlefield 3.
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R6V2, meet Battlefield 3.aliblabla2007

can't believe it took this long.

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#26 -Renegade
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I don't like Rainbow Six as it doesn't take skill in this game at all. It's whoever sees who first who dies.

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[QUOTE="Uncle_Uzi"]

Here comes Rainbow Six: Vegas 2

The grandaddy of Modern Tactical Combat Simulation returns to take back it's title. Here it comes.

An all the new game changing feature, A.C.E.S. allows players to evolve their character uniquely according to how they play. More headshots will unlock new Sniper Rifles. Killing a flash-banged opponent in close quarters will unlock new Combat Shotguns. This kind of system will create truly unique characters that allow for an RPG-like kind of player development.

Combined with the advanced avatar creator tool P.E.C., superior Tactical gameplay and an unprecedented 42 unlockable weapons, Rainbow Six: Vegas 2's multiplayer component is set to completely blow Call Of Duty 4's out of the water. In every way imaginable it will be superior. Elements of Gameplay that CoD4 borrowed from Rainbow Six such as Class-Creation and Weapon Customization will be improved, and then the favor will be returned: fine additions such as the ability to shoot through cover and sprinting will be implemented into Vegas 2.

And the options for online gameplay are fully realized in Vegas 2. A full length 2-player online co-op campaign, 4-player online "Terrorist Hunt", and a gametype selection that nearly rivals that of Halo 3. These options for playing online ensure for always varying gameplay and constant thrills.

Rainbow Six: Vegas 2 is set to overthrow CoD4 and replace it as the premiere Modern Combat Simulator. Welcome back to Vegas, Team Rainbow. We'll brief you March 18th.

HoldThePhone

Two completely differenrt styled games, and frankly COD4 is more appealing to the masses. Learn more about your games.

Socom is the Father of Third Person Shooter Tactical game... Cod4 copied it

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#28 Uncle_Uzi
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f50p90, you need to stop.

You know damned well that CoD4 is a realistic tactical shooter. Quit damage controlling by saying "they aren't in the same genre".

Rainbow Six: Vegas 2 will beat the crap out of CoD4, end of story. Accept it.

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#29 rimnet00
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I liked the single player, but I don't see it being better then COD4 -- on the PC at least, due to the high level of league support for COD4.
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#30 PS3_3DO
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Crysis>r6:v2>>>>>>>>>cod4Franko_3

I heard that Crysis's MP sucks.

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#31 II-FBIsniper-II
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I still am missing what is so amazing about cod4.
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#32 Uncle_Uzi
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I don't like Rainbow Six as it doesn't take skill in this game at all. It's whoever sees who first who dies.

-Renegade

That same statement is 100% applicable to CoD4.

It's not true.

The skill comes from knowing how to get into the right place, and then exploiting it.

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#33 Riverwolf007
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While I like R6V better I don't think COD4 has too much to worry about.

Neither the games or the fanbases are very much alike.

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[QUOTE="HoldThePhone"][QUOTE="Uncle_Uzi"][QUOTE="HoldThePhone"]

Two completely differenrt styled games, and frankly COD4 is more appealing to the masses. Learn more about your games.

Uncle_Uzi

HAHAHA

This is probably the most justifiable comparison of games in the history of man. These two games are in precisely the same genre. YOU sir need to learn more about your games. 8)

Same genre yes, but completly differnt from eachother.

Explain to me how they are the same, because i dont feel like wasting my time on you.

You crack me up.

A) if you don't feel like wasting your precious time, then why did you even post?

B) They are both realistic tactical shooters. They both have real-world weapons, and they both play realisticly. They both have class-based MP, and they are both set in present day. There are many more similar features and characteristics between the two series, far more than I feel like listing.

But yes, there you go. I doubt you've played both - like I have. Because if you did, then you'd wish you never asked.

You showed how naive you are about gaming when you said, "both are realistic tactical shooters."

That description only fits R6 (or at least a little now that it has been casualized).

In R6 Vegas you:

Breach rooms using flash bangs, blowing up doors, using optical gear, rappelling into glass windows, all sorts of techy stuff. Enemies die in a couple shots (as do you). All about being careful, tactical, and using a squad to rescue some hostages, defuse a bomb or some other run of the mill Tom Clancy BS.

Not only do these factors widely distance R6 from games like COD4, but the fact that it implements a cover system in the game makes it an extremely different styled game. You utilized cover with the LT button and pop out when you feel like it.

Call of Duty 4 is a completly different game:

You have a squad, but you have no control over them, they infact have more control over you. In COD4 you are basically a one many army taking on a bunch of Middle Eastern or Russian baddies. There is no cover system, it's more a arcade run-and-gun styled shooter.

And this way of thinking plays into the multiplayer mode as well. Players are not rewarded in playing tactically, but more in how well they can shoot their gun (similar to counter-strike). Multiplayer games are chaotic fire fight kill fests where the quicker trigger finger wins.

There is an entire Perk system than practically defines the COD4 multiplayer in which you can give yourself outrageous skills like Iron Lungs (hold breath forever), Matyrdom (drop a live grenade when you die), Double Tap (increased rate of fire). A bunch of unrealistic but outrageously fun features to use. This is why the game is considered to be arcade styled because it focuses on the heat of battle, while R6 focuses on the realistic details of battle.

About the only realistic thing about COD4 is the shakey sniper scope -- that's it.

So if you think a COD4 fan is going to pick up Vegas 2 and call it the new king, you are sadly mistaken. While R6 is a great franchise, it appeals to a different audience. Granted, it may attract some of the same audience because of its setting as a modern-day shooter like you said, it is simply far too different from COD4 to steal its fame. The sales of previous R6 games illustrate that the R6 Vegas will be a great seller, but it won't be stealing any spot lights.

Call of Duty 4 is more popular then Halo 3 -- I hope you knew that.

Actually I hope you just leave these forums and stop talking about videogames as if you know what they are.

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NO.
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#36 Riverwolf007
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I don't like Rainbow Six as it doesn't take skill in this game at all. It's whoever sees who first who dies.

-Renegade

"It's whoever sees who first who dies."

:lol:

How much more realistic does anything get?

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#37 Titus_WoWplayer
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I don't like Rainbow Six as it doesn't take skill in this game at all. It's whoever sees who first who dies.

-Renegade
not in2 then because uc an now shoot thro lots of objects. its tatics bro.
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#38 f50p90
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TC When Rb6v sells 8 million get back to me
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#39 HoldThePhone
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f50p90, you need to stop.

You know damned well that CoD4 is a realistic tactical shooter. Quit damage controlling by saying "they aren't in the same genre".

Rainbow Six: Vegas 2 will beat the crap out of CoD4, end of story. Accept it.

Uncle_Uzi

Please tell us the realistic aspect of COD4. Maybe it's the sleight of hands superfast reloading skill? Perhaps the super increased rate of fire you can put on your weapon? Maybe its the being able to squeeze of pistol rounds at enimies after they shot you in the head. Maybe its being able to sprint without making any noise with your feet.

Maybe its being able to hold your breath forever while sniping. Maybe it's the fact that you can take on an entire army of terroists as a lone marine? Maybe it's the fact that you can jump off 2-3 story buildings without out breaking your legs? Maybe its because you can run around with a M16 Grenade launcher like it's a close ranged rocket launcher?

Maybe that's why its so realistic....

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#40 rimnet00
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HoldThePhone is correct. RS:V is a tactical shooter, while COD4 is more of an arcade shooter.
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#41 Riverwolf007
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TC When Rb6v sells 8 million get back to mef50p90
Here's how I can tell I've lost perspective and am crippled by the SW mindset.

f50p90 you be sure to pick up a copy of fiddy cent Bulletproof you know it's great because of how good it sold.

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#42 AdrianWerner
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the sad thing is that CoD4 on hardcore is actualy closer to being a tactical shooter (and closer to original RainbowSix) than Vegas2 wil be
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#43 AdrianWerner
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TC your actualy in the wrong. Rainbow 6 is a tactical shooter, CoD4 is an arcade shooter. And because of that it DOES appeal more to the masses.

f50p90

RainbowSix is tactical shooter indeed, RainbowSix: Vegas however is an arcade shooter just like CoD4

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#44 Uncle_Uzi
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Woah woah woah woah woah.

HOLD THE PHONE

Lots of stuff you have been GROSSLY misinformed on:

Halo 3 is back on top. CoD4 is #2.

No matter what way you try to skew it, CoD4 is a realistic shooter game. Gamespot has both games listed as "Modern FPS". They are extremely similar games. You can ask anybody who's played both. The multiplayer options can allow for variations, but at it's core, CoD4 is a Modern Tactical FPS. Have you ever played Hardcore Search & Destroy? Exactly.

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#45 HoldThePhone
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Woah woah woah woah woah.

HOLD THE PHONE

Lots of stuff you have been GROSSLY misinformed on:

Halo 3 is back on top. CoD4 is #2.

No matter what way you try to skew it, CoD4 is a realistic shooter game. Gamespot has both games listed as "Modern FPS". They are extremely similar games. You can ask anybody who's played both. The multiplayer options can allow for variations, but at it's core, CoD4 is a Modern Tactical FPS. Have you ever played Hardcore Search & Destroy? Exactly.

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I'm going to assume I won the argument, Because the only thing you had to say there was they are both Modern Shooters (no s***).

And yes I do realize there is a "hardcore" setting that makes you die quicker and takes away crosshairs, radar -- but still allows for all the ridiculous arcade features like perks.

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#46 f50p90
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[QUOTE="f50p90"]TC When Rb6v sells 8 million get back to meRiverwolf007

Here's how I can tell I've lost perspective and am crippled by the SW mindset.

f50p90 you be sure to pick up a copy of fiddy cent Bulletproof you know it's great because of how good it sold.

It doesn't matter, RB6v wont have as many players therefore it wont dethrone CoD4

Realistic =/= Tactical

Cod4 and Rb6v are both realistic,

Rb6V is tactical, Cod4 is not

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the sad thing is that CoD4 on hardcore is actualy closer to being a tactical shooter (and closer to original RainbowSix) than Vegas2 wil beAdrianWerner
Is that why to get past some of the levels on hardcore you just have to run past all the defenders while they are running to get in their places.

Cod4 plays like every other CoD after the first one, when you hit a hard patch run up as far as you can and let your npc team kill everything.

How tactical is that?

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[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]the sad thing is that CoD4 on hardcore is actualy closer to being a tactical shooter (and closer to original RainbowSix) than Vegas2 wil beRiverwolf007

Is that why to get past some of the levels on hardcore you just have to run past all the defenders while they are running to get in their places.

Cod4 plays like every other CoD after the first one, when you hit a hard patch run up as far as you can and let your npc team kill everything.

How tactical is that?

Ermm...I've meant hardcore setting in multiplayer, not in SP. In singleplayer CoD4 is obviously pure arcade, but Vegas while more tactica than CoD4 in SP still isn't really realistic or really tactical.

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Cod4 never really had the throne imo.
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#50 Riverwolf007
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[QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]

[QUOTE="f50p90"]TC When Rb6v sells 8 million get back to mef50p90

Here's how I can tell I've lost perspective and am crippled by the SW mindset.

f50p90 you be sure to pick up a copy of fiddy cent Bulletproof you know it's great because of how good it sold.

It doesn't matter, RB6v wont have as many players therefore it wont dethrone CoD4

Realistic =/= Tactical

Cod4 and Rb6v are both realistic,

Rb6V is tactical, Cod4 is not

I said Cod4 has nothing to worry about further up, I agree it's in no danger of R6V being more popular. I just like R6V better because it's a better game for me.

My comment was more about using sales as proof of quality. Sales are proof of popularity.