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#101  Edited By PS4hasNOgames
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@melonfarmerz said:

@ps4hasnogames said:

Alan Wake looked better than this.

And you're also known to bash PC so I mean...

you're telling me these screens are something amazing? i seen ps3 games that look better than this so no need to call it graphics king, but whatever makes u feel better.

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#102  Edited By Cloud_imperium
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@AM-Gamer said:

@Cloud_imperium: what a fine argument.

Because it is useless to discuss with fanboys . Infamous doesn't even have dynamic shadows , devs admitted themselves , let alone day night cycle and fake foliage .

http://www.dualshockers.com/2014/03/08/infamous-second-son-lack-of-dynamic-daynight-cycle-and-presenceabsence-of-shadows-explained/

Infamous foliage :

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#103  Edited By AM-Gamer
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@Cloud_imperium said:
@AM-Gamer said:

@Cloud_imperium: what a fine argument.

Because it is useless to discuss with fanboys . Infamous doesn't even have dynamic shadows , devs admitted themselves , let alone day night cycle and fake foliage .

http://www.dualshockers.com/2014/03/08/infamous-second-son-lack-of-dynamic-daynight-cycle-and-presenceabsence-of-shadows-explained/

Infamous foliage :

Except it does have dynamic shadows. If you were so confident why did you post some badly compressed shot and act like thats a accurate representation of the gameplay. Oh I know why? Because you haven't played the game. And your comparing with something that has no physics, few character models, no particle effects. Its just rendering static environments, you haven't posted one pic with a HUD.

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#104 Nonstop-Madness
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Does the nuclear reactor come with the game? Because those textures are freaking bonkers.

Also, you can find some of their assets here - https://p3d.in/u/erm0

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#105  Edited By AM-Gamer
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@foxhound_fox: Because photomode in infamous adds nothing.

I find this incredibly hard to believe. There is no way that is running at full speed on the PS4's hardware... not when the developer calls the CPU a "bottleneck".

http://www.polygon.com/2014/4/29/5664508/infamous-photo-mode-screenshots

Find it hard to believe all you want its a fact.

"Photo Mode itself is a simple tool," he said. "This was not a big R&D project. Camera, depth of field, color grading — the support for manipulating these already existed in our game engine, it was only a matter of creating an interface for them," he said.

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#106  Edited By foxhound_fox
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@AM-Gamer said:

@foxhound_fox said:

@AM-Gamer said:

@foxhound_fox: Because photomode in infamous adds nothing.

I find this incredibly hard to believe. There is no way that is running at full speed on the PS4's hardware... not when the developer calls the CPU a "bottleneck".

http://www.polygon.com/2014/4/29/5664508/infamous-photo-mode-screenshots

Find it hard to believe all you want its a fact.

"Photo Mode itself is a simple tool," he said. "This was not a big R&D project. Camera, depth of field, color grading — the support for manipulating these already existed in our game engine, it was only a matter of creating an interface for them," he said.

It's still changing the appearance from what is shown during gameplay. And with those modifications in place, can the game still run at a playable framerate or is is stuck in a photo rendering state? Those photo mode images look nothing like the images of gameplay I've seen posted here and elsewhere. Whether there are filtering effects added in the mode or not, doesn't change the fact the images look drastically different from gameplay.

And like I said with Gran Turismo, it seems PlayStation fans are quite content playing with virtual cameras and virtual Photoshop.

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#107 Cloud_imperium
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@AM-Gamer said:

@Cloud_imperium said:
@AM-Gamer said:

@Cloud_imperium: what a fine argument.

Because it is useless to discuss with fanboys . Infamous doesn't even have dynamic shadows , devs admitted themselves , let alone day night cycle and fake foliage .

http://www.dualshockers.com/2014/03/08/infamous-second-son-lack-of-dynamic-daynight-cycle-and-presenceabsence-of-shadows-explained/

Infamous foliage :

Except it does have dynamic shadows. If you were so confident why did you post some badly compressed shot and act like thats a accurate representation of the gameplay. Oh I know why? Because you haven't played the game. And your comparing with something that has no physics, few character models, no particle effects. Its just rendering static environments, you haven't posted one pic with a HUD.

Go ahead and show me a screenshot with multiple light sources casting more than one shadow of main character . I'm waiting .

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#108  Edited By topgunmv
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@foxhound_fox said:

@AM-Gamer said:

@foxhound_fox: Because photomode in infamous adds nothing.

I find this incredibly hard to believe. There is no way that is running at full speed on the PS4's hardware... not when the developer calls the CPU a "bottleneck".

If it added something there'd be a rendering load time when you activated it.

There's not.

You can add color filters and mess with the depth of field for a more photogenic screenshot, but that's it.

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#109 lostrib
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@ps4hasnogames said:

@melonfarmerz said:

@ps4hasnogames said:

Alan Wake looked better than this.

And you're also known to bash PC so I mean...

you're telling me these screens are something amazing? i seen ps3 games that look better than this so no need to call it graphics king, but whatever makes u feel better.

Lol, bad trolling is bad

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#110  Edited By topgunmv
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@Cloud_imperium said:
@AM-Gamer said:

@Cloud_imperium: what a fine argument.

Because it is useless to discuss with fanboys . Infamous doesn't even have dynamic shadows , devs admitted themselves , let alone day night cycle and fake foliage .

http://www.dualshockers.com/2014/03/08/infamous-second-son-lack-of-dynamic-daynight-cycle-and-presenceabsence-of-shadows-explained/

Infamous foliage :

Just a hunch, but it might have something to do with the fact that one takes place in a city and the other in the countryside.

If infamous was a submarine game people would complain about the lack of trees.

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#111 Cloud_imperium
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@topgunmv: Dude that makes no sense , even Watch dogs have real grass with wind simulation and it takes place in city as well . Not to mention dynamic shadows and day night cycle .

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#112  Edited By topgunmv
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@Cloud_imperium said:

@topgunmv: Dude that makes no sense , even Watch dogs have real grass with wind simulation and it takes place in city as well . Not to mention dynamic shadows and day night cycle .

Different focuses. I guarantee that some things are going to look better in infamous than they do in watch dogs, and vice versa.

Though to be honest, other than the water, nothing I've seen of watchdogs has blown my socks off.

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#113 stuff238
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They are making a game about a TNA wrestler? Weird.

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#114 Jankarcop
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@Cloud_imperium said:
@AM-Gamer said:

@Cloud_imperium: what a fine argument.

Because it is useless to discuss with fanboys . Infamous doesn't even have dynamic shadows , devs admitted themselves , let alone day night cycle and fake foliage .

http://www.dualshockers.com/2014/03/08/infamous-second-son-lack-of-dynamic-daynight-cycle-and-presenceabsence-of-shadows-explained/

Infamous foliage :

Lmao that game looks awful in actual gameplay screenshots. Even PC games last year looked better on ultra.

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I'm sorry but have you seen Second Son?

HAHAHAHAHA too bad it looks nothing like that in reality. they sold you snake oil, poor peasant.

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#117  Edited By MK-Professor
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@gpuking said:

Photo mode is not enhanced dear god lol. You literally pan the camera around in real time and adjust the dof, If it's enhanced then it would take 30 second to render like in Forza 5's photomode.

A typical frame in Second Son it takes around 33ms, so if in the Photo mode only takes 300ms(around 1/3 of the second!!!) it is still heavily enhanced.

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#118 gpuking
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Photomode in SS simply let you freeze frame and tweak around it however you want without adding anything outside of engine's real time processing capability. Just because you don't see that particular camera angle or dof distance doesn't mean they don't exist. You also wont play the game like photomode's camera angle because it would be awkward to see things, I swear lems here are so brain dead to fail to comprehend such simple logic.

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#119  Edited By II_Seraphim_II
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@blangenakker: Fable foilage looks better. :P

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#120 m3dude1
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let me know when theres gameplay shots with a fraps counter running, maybe then we can talk about graphics king

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#121 foxhound_fox
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@groowagon said:

@gpuking said:

I'm sorry but have you seen Second Son?

HAHAHAHAHA too bad it looks nothing like that in reality. they sold you snake oil, poor peasant.

But they don't care about playing the game when they can spend hours making pretty screenshots. They did the same thing with Gran Turismo 5.

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#122  Edited By m3dude1
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and you all do the same thing with tons of pc games. posting press shots like the ones in the OP and massively downsized and Photoshop enhanced screens taken on thousand dollar+(at a bare minimum for the video cards only) mult gpu systems that are still hard pressed to pump out a framerate in the double digits. those second son screens are real time native res in-game not using any enhancements the game doesnt already process at 30 fps.

*waiting on more crysis 3 screens captured at single digit framerates

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#124 bezza2011
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I just want someone to make a decent detective game LA Noire was a fantastic experiment and a step in the right direction for me personally, yes it may not of been an amazing game and some people had there fueds with it but overall it showed that with enough time and effort this genre good be reborn, this looks great but why does everything always need a paranormal spin on things.

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#125 Lulu_Lulu
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@ bezza2011

Yes Dective games are hard to come by... But you know, they are still out there.... Especially on PC... Even Heavy Rain had a Detective Element to it.... It was pretty sweet.

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#126 m3dude1
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@m3dude1: Lets see an example. I can play Crysis 3 maxed out at 30-60fps no problem.

So.. what instance is there of a screen shot displaying graphics that can't be rendered live at playable frame rates?

95+% of the screens in virtually every pc screenshot thread on the internet

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#127 miiiiv
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While it looks promising, I think we really need to see some game play videos before calming that this could be a contender for the "new graphics king"

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#129  Edited By BattleSpectre
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Guys please stop fighting, you're going to make me cry. Infamous is better than anything a gaming PC can offer. My 1080p Plasma TV was fine tuned by a professional and it cost me $300 to get it tuned this way, it beats any 4K and 1440p monitor out there. No PC game looks as good as what my Plasma TV can do.

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#130 EducatingU_PCMR
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@m3dude1:

@m3dude1 said:

@Motokid6 said:

@m3dude1: Lets see an example. I can play Crysis 3 maxed out at 30-60fps no problem.

So.. what instance is there of a screen shot displaying graphics that can't be rendered live at playable frame rates?

95+% of the screens in virtually every pc screenshot thread on the internet

Doubt it. 95% of screenshots don't have an fps counter.

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#131  Edited By AM-Gamer
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@groowagon: Um yes it does I have it. Stay butthurt scrub and live in denial.

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#132 topgunmv
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@MK-Professor said:

@gpuking said:

Photo mode is not enhanced dear god lol. You literally pan the camera around in real time and adjust the dof, If it's enhanced then it would take 30 second to render like in Forza 5's photomode.

A typical frame in Second Son it takes around 33ms, so if in the Photo mode only takes 300ms(around 1/3 of the second!!!) it is still heavily enhanced.

Did someone measure this or something?

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#133  Edited By scatteh316
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@m3dude1 said:

and you all do the same thing with tons of pc games. posting press shots like the ones in the OP and massively downsized and Photoshop enhanced screens taken on thousand dollar+(at a bare minimum for the video cards only) mult gpu systems that are still hard pressed to pump out a framerate in the double digits. those second son screens are real time native res in-game not using any enhancements the game doesnt already process at 30 fps.

*waiting on more crysis 3 screens captured at single digit framerates

You need to get a clue.... On PC we have something called TrSSAA... Makes a hell of a difference to image quality...

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#134  Edited By lostrib
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@topgunmv said:

@MK-Professor said:

@gpuking said:

Photo mode is not enhanced dear god lol. You literally pan the camera around in real time and adjust the dof, If it's enhanced then it would take 30 second to render like in Forza 5's photomode.

A typical frame in Second Son it takes around 33ms, so if in the Photo mode only takes 300ms(around 1/3 of the second!!!) it is still heavily enhanced.

Did someone measure this or something?

game running at 30FPS, So 1 frame every 33ms. 1second/30= 33ms

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#135  Edited By m3dude1
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@BattleSpectre plz find a single post ive ever made even mentioning plasma tvs

@Motokid6http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=506297&page=127

ya bro im sure crysis 3 is hella playable at those settings

@scatteh316 do you even realize trssaa only applies to alphas? maybe you mean sgssaa in nvinspector but that takes massive amounts of performance and is only playable in older titles. it also gives the image a softer look, not the super sharp look you get by downsizing in photoshop with special algorithms

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#136 topgunmv
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@lostrib said:

@topgunmv said:

@MK-Professor said:

@gpuking said:

Photo mode is not enhanced dear god lol. You literally pan the camera around in real time and adjust the dof, If it's enhanced then it would take 30 second to render like in Forza 5's photomode.

A typical frame in Second Son it takes around 33ms, so if in the Photo mode only takes 300ms(around 1/3 of the second!!!) it is still heavily enhanced.

Did someone measure this or something?

game running at 30FPS, So 1 frame every 33ms. 1second/30= 33ms

Ah, I see.

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@groowagon said:

@gpuking said:

I'm sorry but have you seen Second Son?

HAHAHAHAHA too bad it looks nothing like that in reality. they sold you snake oil, poor peasant.

That's 100% in-game you scrub! Show me a game that looks even close as good on a $400 PC, or let's up the stakes, show me a game that looks as good on a $4000 PC, I dare you!

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#138  Edited By Lulu_Lulu
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@Console_Caesar

All flash and no substance ! It may look good but theres many games that are better.

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#139 Master_ShakeXXX
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@freedomfreak said:

It ain't no Second Son, that's for damn sure.

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#141  Edited By deactivated-5bda06edf37ee
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@console_caesar said:

HAHAHAHAHA too bad it looks nothing like that in reality. they sold you snake oil, poor peasant.

That's 100% in-game you scrub! Show me a game that looks even close as good on a $400 PC, or let's up the stakes, show me a game that looks as good on a $4000 PC, I dare you!

i'd love to, young padawan, but you can't see the truth from behind those Cow Vision 6000 () goggles.

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#142  Edited By cimbom1993
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@console_caesar:

in photomode its easy to hide bad looking parts of the game , look at gt6 and forza 5

maybe its the best looking open world console game until watchdogs arives

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#143  Edited By deactivated-5bda06edf37ee
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@cimbom1993 said:

@console_caesar:

all hail the graphics king. lol.

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#145 silversix_
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Okay these gifs look good and as always all i was thinking about is a Souls game with this kind of graphics-.-

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#147  Edited By topgunmv
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@cimbom1993 said:

@console_caesar:

in photomode its easy to hide bad looking parts of the game , look at gt6 and forza 5

maybe its the best looking open world console game until watchdogs arives

When over half your pictures are just spots where you can bork the LOD;

you know you're reaching and don't really have a point.

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#148  Edited By Pray_to_me
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stay jelly

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@Pray_to_me said:

stay jelly

^Jelly

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#150  Edited By Cloud_imperium
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@scottpsfan14 said:

Lol once again people missing the point about infamous. Not strictly graphics king. Has too many short comings graphically to be called that out right. But it's the best graphics open world game and the most technologically advanced open world game of it's genre by far. End of story.

Not anymore . Watch Dogs says hi , and it is releasing after almost 2 weeks .